the truth about global warming

[Unorthodox]

Do we all agree, however, that pollution is bad and there's probably a connection?

Pollution is "bad", but the climate has been cooling for at least several years, the last one having been the worst.
http://www.socialistphalanx.com/t1405-climate-change-with-trinny

"Socialist Phalanx"....

yeah, there's a site that I'm sure is grounded in solid science...

[Yitzi]

Do we all agree, however, that pollution is bad and there's probably a connection?

Pollution is bad, but if anything it's more likely to reduce global warming than increase it.

[Buster's Uncle]

That depends on what type pollution, and it's all a matter of not pooping our own nest.

[Yitzi]

That depends on what type pollution

I don't think so, unless you count greenhouse gasses as pollution.  (I don't, as they don't actually do any damage directly.)

and it's all a matter of not pooping our own nest.

That's true.

[Buster's Uncle]

You should, as they're a waste product we put out (that causes harm, whether direct or not).

[Yitzi]

You should, as they're a waste product we put out (that causes harm, whether direct or not).

To me, "pollution" implies that it is "dirty" in some way, not just indirectly harmful.  It's really a semantics question, though.

(It's also a good distinction to make because one is a lot more context-dependent than the others; if we were in a bad ice age, some greenhouse gasses might be a good thing.)

[BlaneckW]

"Socialist Phalanx"....

yeah, there's a site that I'm sure is grounded in solid science...

It's a list of links I made for last year's weather.  I tried to post them to a fascist website too, but they banned me because they are very unfunny people.  I had told them that my world vision is "retro hotel rooms..."

[BlaneckW]

Tornado activity hits 60-year low
http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2013/05/09/quiet-tornado-season/2148075/

The USA in the past 12 months has seen the fewest number of tornadoes since at least 1954, and the death tolls from the dangerous storms have dropped dramatically since 2011.

Just two years after a ferocious series of tornado outbreaks killed hundreds of Americans, the USA so far this year is enjoying one of the calmest years on record for twisters. Through Thursday, tornadoes have killed only three Americans in 2013; by the end of May 2011, 543 Americans had died.

The year-to-date count of tornadoes is probably approaching the lower 10% of all years on record, said Greg Carbin, warning coordination meteorologist with the Storm Prediction Center in Norman.

The reason: An unusually cool weather pattern from the Rockies to the East Coast. "Generally, the lower the temperature and/or the drier the air, the lower the number of thunderstorms," said AccuWeather meteorologist Alex Sosnowski.

[BlaneckW]

http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/products/maps/acis/YearTDeptUS.png

From the delicate strands, between minds we weave out mesh: a blanket to warm the soul.

[BlaneckW]

What do you know, it looks like China is getting hotter.
https://rgsweather.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/temp-anomaly-global-departure-from-average.png

[BlaneckW]

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ro&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fstirileprotv.ro%2Fstiri%2Factualitate%2Fcod-galben-de-ploi-si-ninsori-pana-sambata-dimineata-drumuri-blocate-si-masini-inzapezite-in-harghita-si-suceava.html&edit-text=&act=url

I worry for the agriculture.

I hope that these events will finally put down the vile denialism as the world descends back into winter, demonstrating thoroughly the long-term warming indicated by the very correct, unpresumptuous and agendaless computer models, and that we take the correct measures to combat carbon dioxide such as not heating our homes and make other sacrifices for our psychopathic politicians and rich who only want what is best for us .

[Buster's Uncle]

Don't kid a kidder, B.  This thread is hanging by a thread, and you just frayed it more.

[BlaneckW]

I am only reporting the news.  It is my opinion that history will bear out the truth of a slightly warmer Africa.
http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s499/WeatherDem/GlobalTemperatureAnomalyMap201303_zpsf432fd9b.gif

[Buster's Uncle]

Now you're being disingenuous.  I noted your sarcasm before, and denying it makes it worse.  I'm asking you not to test my patience again in here.

Edit:  The edits after I reply aren't fooling me either.

[Unorthodox]

Tornado activity hits 60-year low
http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2013/05/09/quiet-tornado-season/2148075/

The USA in the past 12 months has seen the fewest number of tornadoes since at least 1954, and the death tolls from the dangerous storms have dropped dramatically since 2011.

Just two years after a ferocious series of tornado outbreaks killed hundreds of Americans, the USA so far this year is enjoying one of the calmest years on record for twisters. Through Thursday, tornadoes have killed only three Americans in 2013; by the end of May 2011, 543 Americans had died.

The year-to-date count of tornadoes is probably approaching the lower 10% of all years on record, said Greg Carbin, warning coordination meteorologist with the Storm Prediction Center in Norman.

The reason: An unusually cool weather pattern from the Rockies to the East Coast. "Generally, the lower the temperature and/or the drier the air, the lower the number of thunderstorms," said AccuWeather meteorologist Alex Sosnowski.

Had to laugh, news today is for a rash of tornados this weekend.