Valjiir

[Valka]

There aren't many daytime soaps left. GH is the only one left on ABC that's still on TV (the other two were resurrected online, but I haven't seen them). I think Days of Our Lives and Bold & Beautiful are still on, as is Young & Restless. My dad's girlfriend was addicted to that one, and she made him watch it for her when she had to work days. He became an expert in All Things Pertaining To Victor Newman. All I know about that is that the actor played one of the villains in Escape From the Planet of the Apes.

[Buster's Uncle]

Jarlwolf looks scarily like that actor, Erik Braeden...

[Valjiir1]

You should keep in mind, though, that some of my perceptions of the Valjiir characters were formed when I read the original print 'zines. Some of the characters look very different (to me, at least) when you compare the print illustrations and Mylochka's artwork.

That's mostly because I didn't have any say on what the print illustrators did.  There was no back-and-forth "Okay, is THIS better" kind of thing.  Mylochka and I worked very closely together to create he CGI Valjiir characters, so if you're looking for accuracy (whatever that means in universes from a different plane of reality  ), then Mylochka's are the best approximation around.

[Valjiir1]

Jeremy thinks both Del and Johnny Depp are more than F-I-N-E... Jer IS bisexual, you know....

Yeah, it was the juxtaposition with my remark about the gay-bash impulse that threw me.  I knew Paget was Del's secret keeper, and in Sulu's drag club back in the day, where carnal knowledge of the evil leader was seemingly mandatory. 

Just FYI, several people are rolling around on the floor laughing hysterically at that description 

I have poked around your character outlines some - and of course looked at a lot of art.

All I've actually read of the stories that Mylochka had no hand in was the Iotian encounter a million years ago.  -And the version of The Mind Sifter in the book, of course.

Now I'm confused.  What do you mean by "the version of The Mind Sifter in the book"?

Is it actually established that Jer likes a 20-21st century actor, or is that more the creator's knowledge of his tastes?

'Actually established' where?  In the writing?  No, no mention of Mr. Depp in the writing.  And it's more than my knowledge of his tastes.  HE says it.  You know from Mylochka that these are real people that exist in my head/their own plane of reality (and sometimes in hers) right?

And if I've just freaked the hell out of everyone reading this, mea culpa. I calls 'em like I sees 'em.

[Valka]

Now I'm confused.  What do you mean by "the version of The Mind Sifter in the book"?

I think he means the Shadow Captain stories based on the "Mind Sifter" story in the New Voyages paperback.

[Buster's Uncle]

-Which was altered from the original against the author's wishes for that publication...

[Buster's Uncle]

Hey, parody idea - Valjir: The Next Generation.

[Valka]

-Which was altered from the original against the author's wishes for that publication...

I read the original that wasn't in the paperback. It had some interesting character stuff with Chekov, as he and McCoy figured out how to get around in the 20th century.

[FoldInTheWolf]

-Which was altered from the original against the author's wishes for that publication...

Do you mean the original story in the New Voyages paperback was altered for publication in New Voyages? I hadn't known that.

Editors do sometimes edit. Trust me on that My novels as published differ markedly from what I originally submitted. In my case, what happened is that the editors made recommendations, suggesting where to add, where to trim, what do emphasize, and I fiddled with the text until I created something the editors liked better. I can't speak for anyone else's process or experience, but I think for me, the final versions are far superior to the originals.

[Buster's Uncle]

Oh, most assuredly. 

I gather that in this case, the author felt strongly about it, though.  Mylochka read the original a few days ago -I posted a link to it in the Star Trek thread- and, working from memory, she thinks it's not a lot of material excised, and not an interesting passage, at that.  -And that's from Chekov fangirl #1.

[FoldInTheWolf]

Not having read the unedited version of Mind Sifter, what is below are general comments unrelated to any specific situation:

Writers sometimes fall in love with their own writing. That's a mistake. While I'm proud of what I've written (when it's any good), editors usually know their jobs at least as well as -- often better than -- writers know writing.

Writers know what they want to write. They don't always know what readers want to read. Ignoring (or getting pissed at) an editor is fine, as long as a writer doesn't care if anyone else ever reads the story.

It's the job of the writer to create; it's the job of an editor to turn that creation into something that someone other than the original writer will want to read.

[Buster's Uncle]

Absolutely, and it's a thing us nerdz with our aspie tendencies can have a lot of trouble with.  It's a pity fanfic writers are often that way, though, 'cause collaborating can be a lot of fun - twice as many ideas to play with, for one thing.

[FoldInTheWolf]

Hey, parody idea - Valjir: The Next Generation.

I wrote one of those -- not as a parody though. It was published in IADR as "The Way Tomorrow Was", and the IADR editor almost refused to publish it.

I had to do my own illos.

[Buster's Uncle]

-Also Valjiir: Deep Space Nine, etc.  God help the readers of Valjiir: Enterprise.

[Buster's Uncle]

Dave, is there a keyword list on the site?  I've got this in the html code on my Custom Factions page:

4.  <meta name="keywords"
5.  content="alpha centauri,alien crossfire,sid meier,Sid Meier's,smac,smax,TBS,sf,4x,Planetary Pack,Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, Sid Meier's Alien Crossfire, Firaxis Games, Xenofungus, Mindworms, Chiron, Miriam,
     Lal, Morgan, Deidre, Santiago, Zakharov, Aki Zeta, Domai, Drones, Marr, H'minee, Gaian, Morganites, mod, custom factions, how-to, scenario, map">

-And of course, one could simply put it at the bottom of the main page, 1 pt. type and color of the background - whichever seems easier.  The site is the #1 hit on Google for "Valjiir", of course, but it would help pull search engine hits for other, related, terms like "fanfic" and "Spock" and so on.  Many more people taking a look could result, and promotion is always playing the percentages for the users who will like what they see.

Sorry if I'm telling my gramma how to suck eggs...