Valjiir

[Buster's Uncle]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!

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I sorta take the position that it's almost impossible to cast the classic parts really well, so just as well accept the nucast as a starting point - I can't hate them just because they were in horrible movies.  One hopes that most of their inadequacies could be fixed with good direction and writing that feels like Star Trek instead of Star Wars.

That said, great as Simon Pegg may be in comedy parts that fit him, I'd rather have Scotty played by someone who isn't completely not like Scotty.  I'd rather a better Sulu and Chekov, too, and note that while Zackary Quinto looks in the ballpark, his performance of Spock actually resembles Tuvok a lot more.  He needs to turn down the peevish annoyance, or I'd rather look for someone taller, thinner a little bit gaunt and craggier, who can perform Spock's "cool".

[Valka]

You're confusing things.  The actors named were for a fantasy Valjiir movie (as suggested by you, I believe).  And it would be a real shame if you kept preconceptions from seeing such a movie.  But since this is all fantasy, it's really neither here nor there.  But it's sad you're so close-minded about it.

The Vulcan Side Story thing will, of course, be done with the Valjiir characters as depicted by Mylochka's artwork.

Please do not accuse me of being "close-minded" unless you know exactly why I feel as I do about nuTrek and/or the actors involved in it, and the absolute $h!tstorm of trolling and flaming I had thrown at me at TrekBBS for not falling all over myself to praise that crap.


I would love to participate in wishful casting a hypothetical Valjiir movie, but not if it involves anyone from nuTrek.

I'm out of this part of the conversation for now.

[Buster's Uncle]

Might I suggest offering an alternative list?  You know I'd rather do better, but I got nothin' of my own.



-This is me hoping I won't have to act like a moderator...

[Valka]

Ah, casting for a Valjiir movie... used to be a fun pastime for me, but now all my choices are at least 25 years out of date.

Why should we limit ourselves to only current actors? Since this is hypothetical (and we have time travel at our disposal), shouldn't anyone be eligible? 

If we had to stay with currently-popular actors, I wouldn't have a clue because I haven't been to a theatre since last century (literally; it was Toy Story 2), and rarely watch TV nowadays).

[Geo]

Why should we limit ourselves to only current actors? Since this is hypothetical (and we have time travel at our disposal), shouldn't anyone be eligible? 

I'd cast myself for the function of Red Shirt any day. Imagine all the screentime you get...

[Buster's Uncle]

I tend to think in casting games, it's more fun to assume a time machine, whoever you want's available, and you can afford them.  Naturally, using the originals wouldn't be any fun.  Naturally, casting the purely Valjiir characters would be safer ground...

I also like to point out to ladies that Brad Pit can only play one part.

[Geo]

I also like to point out to ladies that Brad Pit can only play one part.

Sidekick of mademoiselle Jolie?

[Buster's Uncle]

That is the gentleman I had in mind, yes.  Back in my renfair days, we played 'who will play us in the movie' in the campground a fair bit, and Mr. Pit got mentioned entirely too often for the cute white boys.

[Geo]

What I meant was: BP acting as sidekick of AJ in some new ST movie. Genderrole reversal and all that.

[Buster's Uncle]

[shrugs]  He's actually a very good actor, and she's not bad.  I'd watch it.

[FoldInTheWolf]

I personally loved the new movies. I think Quinto, Pine, and Urban were particularly good -- bearing in mind that this is an alternate history, with different personal events resulting in some differences in personality from the characters we got to know nearly fifty years ago.

I also thought the scripts were sharp and the directing was tense. Yes, there were some plot holes and some bad science, but I've unfortunately never seen a science fiction movie for which this wasn't true. (I saw Gravity over the weekend, and I loved it -- and it's got some glaring plot holes and some awful science too.)

I am aware that not everyone agrees with my assessment, and I see no reason we need to all agree. Taste is a personal thing, and we are likely to differ.

As far as playing the casting game, I see no reason to limit our fantasies to any particular group of actors. This being fantasy, it  may not even be necessary to limit ourselves to living actors, or to actors who are the correct age today (as opposed to, for instance, having been the right age 20 or 30 or 60 years ago), though that then removes the fantasy from anything we could imagine actually doing today.

[Valjiir1]

What I meant was: BP acting as sidekick of AJ in some new ST movie. Genderrole reversal and all that.

But which characters?

[Buster's Uncle]

To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson, my neighbors' errors of taste neither break my leg nor pick my pocket.

-I have to tell myself that a lot, 'cause I'm a nerd who wants to get riled up over that kind of thing, and the people next door have SUCH lousy taste.



Jaime Pressly as Ruth?

[Geo]

But which characters?

Don't know, I'm not familiar enough with Valjiir to pin them down. Some sort of vigilantes duo perhaps?

[FoldInTheWolf]

What I meant was: BP acting as sidekick of AJ in some new ST movie. Genderrole reversal and all that.

But which characters?

I think AJ could play Loki Monelem