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Offline Geo

Re: The AC2 Wiki
« Reply #135 on: August 04, 2013, 11:57:07 AM »
http://alphacentauri2.info/wiki/Category:Factions_with_free_ability (surprisingly underused, only two custom factions use it!)


Include these guys. ;)

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^+2 POLICE and +1 PROBE: {Loyal citizens of a distinct culture}
^-2 GROWTH: {Accidents for the unattentive in a hostile environment and birth control}
^{May not use Free Market economic choice.}
^Free Deep Pressure Hull ability with discovery of necessary technology.
^Terraform Bonus: {Drowning your opponents is an option}
^Bases need Hab Complex to exceed size 4: {Small bases difficult to discover}
^Enhancements may be built in ocean and trench squares with the discovery of Advanced Ecological Engineering: {Trained for life at sea}
^Bonus mineral from ocean shelf squares: {Culture and technology adapted for the ocean}

ATM I'm thinking of giving a free seaformer to start with.



Offline JarlWolf

Re: The AC2 Wiki
« Reply #136 on: August 04, 2013, 12:00:31 PM »
I was originally thinking of having my Valhallans have Amphibious pods but I thought they'd be overpowered that way. Though you can add a faction to the free ability for Trance I think, my Machine Mandate has that off the bat if I recall.


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Offline Geo

Re: The AC2 Wiki
« Reply #137 on: August 04, 2013, 12:09:41 PM »
A SMACX faction (IMO) needs something to have an edge in, to give it something unique if you will. For this one, it is the Power of Invisibily w/o Deep Radar around.

Offline ete

Re: The AC2 Wiki
« Reply #138 on: August 04, 2013, 12:13:06 PM »
Geo: If they're in the set of files I have ready to or someone points me at a download link I will.

And right JarlWolf, that would have been pretty awesome imo. Very fitting and helpful.

Offline ete

Re: The AC2 Wiki
« Reply #139 on: August 04, 2013, 04:21:50 PM »
Updating without being able to remotely unzip on my connection is apparently nightmarish and making a proper backup is awkward without more access, I'll wait for sisko.

Offline ete

Re: The AC2 Wiki
« Reply #140 on: August 04, 2013, 06:25:05 PM »
Added eight more factions and fixed some issues with most of them. BU: Found a couple of wtfbroken factions to play against yours:
http://alphacentauri2.info/wiki/The_Energists
http://alphacentauri2.info/wiki/The_New_British_Empire

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Re: The AC2 Wiki
« Reply #141 on: August 04, 2013, 06:28:56 PM »
The Feminine Union and the Texas faction have enough interest bonus to get ridiculously rich in a hurry; you might want to have a look at them, too.

Offline ete

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« Reply #142 on: August 04, 2013, 08:16:09 PM »
Okay, I've finally got around to properly sorting through everything you sent me. Quite a lot of factions I've not seen before, excellent. Some duplicates with slight difference to resolve though, and that was quite chaotic :p managed to crash windows explorer from moving too many files around too quickly, that's a first.

A fair few factions have no graphics at all, want a list of them with the text files which go along with them to see if any look like things you'd want to attach some stuff to?


Also damn borg. How can there be so many of them...

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« Reply #143 on: August 04, 2013, 08:29:11 PM »
Over the years, there's been a lot of -how do I put this- fan creative interaction with each other's work.  Much art re-purposed for later projects, especially; I gather there weren't much in the way of art guys around in the early years of the game, or for quite a few years between NN and I. 

I don't have a good answer for you about multiple versions of the same custom faction, something I've contributed to a bit myself.  You could number versions, or pick a definitive version, which would certainly be less work - or do some of both, depending on how much revisions changed the faction, and whether the difference makes one clearly superior, or merely different.  A good example would be the Bree, which I gather was always popular, but, I think, different in the iteration Maniac included in SMAniaC, and I have no idea how different.

Untangling issues of giving proper credit for work is made tricky by all this, too. -Which is why I tend to nag artists to sign their work, and even why I include month and year of completion in my own work.

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Why not post that needs-art list in a new thread in Modding, (as well as make a wiki page)?  Jarl, for instance, seems to be raring for new art projects.

Offline ete

Re: The AC2 Wiki
« Reply #144 on: August 04, 2013, 08:50:37 PM »
I'm trying to avoid having multiple versions, and will be merging them wherever it is remotely possible (possibly taking bits of each version where that makes sense).. but sometimes I'm not sure which to go with.

hm, I think I'll make a set of templates to put on wiki pages about different art issues (e.g. reused bases, no art) which will categorize them automatically, and a thread with links to those categories?

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Re: The AC2 Wiki
« Reply #145 on: August 04, 2013, 08:59:32 PM »
Sure, but you'll get a lot more help with the art the more that's in the thread, and not just at the links.  People are bad to not click on links...

Offline JarlWolf

Re: The AC2 Wiki
« Reply #146 on: August 04, 2013, 09:53:49 PM »
What you could also do is you just have spoilers or something to show alternate art for each faction/alternate designs.


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Offline ete

Re: The AC2 Wiki
« Reply #147 on: August 04, 2013, 10:05:21 PM »
@JarlWolf: So far the graphics have been either the same or one is clearly superior. The issue with the borg is that there's three very different takes on its faction power, plus some variants of flavor text. All with the same name and graphics.

@BU:Most of the time it'll be a case of "this thing is missing <important something>, can you fix it?", and it would be a whole lot easier to let it auto-update..

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Re: The AC2 Wiki
« Reply #148 on: August 04, 2013, 10:08:47 PM »
Sure, but my point still stands.

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« Reply #149 on: August 04, 2013, 10:13:08 PM »
If there's something I particularly want to draw attention to I'll probably post it, but there's dozens of factions with default bases or entirely missing art.

 

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