Politics 2021

[E_T]

'Lok - have you read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, perchance?

What Part of it are you referencing?

[Buster's Uncle]

Don't blow my gag, man.

[Elok]

I'm guessing you're referencing Zaphod not having power but distracting from it.  I can't imagine who the true power-holders would be in this case, though; he's not especially helpful to any cultural or business elites, unless you count the few businesses actually helped by his tariffs.

Bvanevery, the party's been purging moderates for some time.  Tea Party hit circa 2010.  [Sleezebag]'s attack on the disloyal was mostly directed at firing people he'd hired himself, thereby creating chaos in his own administration.  There were also primaries and threats of primaries, but going forward primaries will likely be wielded indiscriminately by the base with or without [Sleezebag], so for the purposes of impeach-or-not it hardly matters IMO.

[Buster's Uncle]

Oh hoHO!

No, pal o' mine, I thought you'd get this one.  Zaphod spent years collecting and writing up information about Earth, submitted it to the Guide - and the Entry for Earth updated from "Harmless." to "Mostly Harmless."

 

I sincerely think I'm not mischaracterizing your view of The Pig; merely tersely summarizing. 

Remember that the Hitchiker's Guide eventually did reverse and publish reams and reams of Zaphod's work - So Long And Thanks For All The Fish, maybe?  It's been somewhere north of 30 years for me.  (Don't own any of them, but I'm re-reading The Silmarillion right now, if we'd like to re-visit Tolkien sometime…)


SO- I'm sure you've seen one of the countless times I've talked about how much this community harmed my love of arguing for fun.  At BEST, it only works like sled-racing with my little brother in the late 70's; we had to stop keeping track of who won to enjoy ourselves.  Pity.

So, I see negative charm in Ming insulting Kid, who never knows he's beat - it's just feeding, and a real drag on that OT, that Ming wasn't sick of that little reindeer game years ago.  And I don't know why Kid's bothering to troll, and I say that as someone I fancy speaks Master-Level Troll and fluent Conservative (with the caveat that I loathe Reagan-Style Poo-Slinging Talk without let or hindrance, world without end, selah amen - a caveat at the Heart of Everything if you want to understand my politics).

[Let us hit post at this juncture, that this much will be up while I write more; I fail once again in an intention to continue to be terse.]

[E_T]

I thought that was Ford Perfect

[E_T]

WHAAAAAAAHHH!!!   WHAAAAAAAHHH!!!
IF I...  WHAAAAAAAHHH!!!  CAN'T GET... WHAAAAAAAHHH!!!  A PARDON
WHAAAAAAAHHH!!
NO ONE CAN!!!  WHAAAAAAAHHH!!!  WHAAAAAAAHHH!!!  WHAAAAAAAHHH!!!

[Buster's Uncle]

-Pardon the ninja noise as I continue.


Kid shows up with a headful of just-not-so and talking points gleaned off just-as-well-be-Stormfront and tries to play the answer to the request no one made; Ben, please, but stupid.  Why does anyone ever talk to him ever about anything?  Why am I claiming to be classier than Jon Miller about anything?  -Because I don't waste my time feeding that, ever.  Why would I?  Why don't you?  And I'm not much talking about the trolling part near so much as the worse-than-gibberish alternate crapsack world he thinks he's in that I dunno how to address that much wrong.

---And I feel a little like that when you talk about politics, your place in, absolutely not as a comparison to, y'know, the evil trolling, but the just-not-so stuff that I wouldn't know how to engage if I foolishly wanted to.  Just a little, I feel that way, enough to trouble me.  You are, similar to what you once said of/to Lori, one of the most decent people I've met on the webs -I agree about Lori, too- and it troubles me to see you sitting on the wrong side of the stadium amidst the folks who've lately mainstreamed fascism, inevitably culminating what Reagan started, but MADly accelerated by Sleezo the Joke.

(As Dr. David M. Perry has been repeating on Twitter for two days, what do you call nine people and the guy in the Camp Auschwitz t-shirt walking around together?  Ten Nazis marching.   -If not so, I argue in defense of the slam, why are any sighted and at-all literate of the nine still walking with him?)

---

So let me ask you some questions:  You are aware of a thing happened Wednesday, yes?  And you have some familiarity with what Treason Grifter said to the Nazi crowd before and during the putsch/murders/myriadly-felonious attack on American Democracy, yes?

Perhaps you will stipulate that he intentionally further riled up a crowd he surely understood was violently angry -angry over lies that originated with him- described where he wanted them to go, used the word "fight", and that fighting subsequently happened, 5-6 deaths as a result of those countless felonies and treasons.  Got any quibbles with that framing?

SO- what do YOU believe he is guilty of?  Is Incitement To Commit [very large number of several most serious of crimes, however lawyers would phrase it], even Conspiracy To, something in that ballfield, fair?

SO- What do you think should happen to him?  What SHOULD be done?

I stipulate that I don't care all that helluva lot about the poop and vandalism - that's for prosecuting the street Nazis we can't get for the Sedition/cop Murder/Felony Murder Rule/Plot to Kidnap and Murder - that last of which I have no evidence the Orange Sleeze knew about.  What SHOULD happen to The Pig now?


I'm deeply interested from the angle about Punishing The Guilty being society's best prophylactic measure against intolerable acts.  (I got nothin' better to offer.)  And I gots me nooo problem with the policeman at Mardi Gras in N'Orleans my sister heard telling a guy to NOT smoke that spliff in the OPEN.  I gots me nothin' BUT problems with authorities looking the other way at FELONIES, not least the cluster-grouping I mentioned in the last paragraph.

I KNOW you're not okay with most anything about Nazi Wedesday, probably not with even the broken glass and poop.  Not even calling the Black cops [black and proud]s all day.  So what's your vision of how a healthy polity/society STRONGLY and EFFECTIVELY discourages all this happening again?

[Buster's Uncle]

I thought that was Ford Perfect

Crap, I'm not even sure, having read all that, maybe, 1987-89.  I think you're right.

[Buster's Uncle]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you those notorious liars, Congressmen Matt Gaetz and Jim Jordan, L-R.

I'd estimate they are both roughly 41.

[E_T]

[Buster's Uncle]

-It's only ^51 seconds^, folks, so have a look.

I wonder whether it's more due to platforms purging Nazi followers --- or these Nazis taking a teeeeny popularity hit with the masks off and the swastikas showing ante-putcsh...

[E_T]

something here stinks to high heaven

[Buster's Uncle]

[ninja'd]

P.S.  SHUT UP NAZIS!

[Buster's Uncle]

something here stinks to high heaven

Ohhh, I think Lionel Hutz as prosecutor ought to be able to put the Pig -defended by Victor Sufentes having a good day- in prison for the rest of his elderly life, just for what he did on TV Wednesday.

-But after that, the most interesting convictions ought to prove to come out of the investigation of the Capitol Police and Sergeants-At Arms planning and what-all the heck happened in DOJ with the Guard.  -Not hard to believe it ending with even the worst lawyer you can think of nailing Pig a second (do hard) time.

I'm WAY more interested in seeing officials who betrayed the public trust -including police, and it seems clear there were a number of both dirty in this- go down hard than the vandals and poopers, and I want them to have Real Bad Decades.

[Buster's Uncle]

"Too many in the media bottled it. At some point we have to own this. Donald [Sleezebag] and his mob succeeded in getting this far because we, the media, failed. We failed you."

I have been waiting four long years to say this. It's important.

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