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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #180 on: January 11, 2021, 06:07:04 PM »
-I left out at least borderline obese.  You'd think I loovved beer.

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Biden apparently said something about opposing the NRA this morning, and OF COURSE the Nazis are losing it.  I won't bother with the rest, but I want to quote the close of something someone said back, in the 14pt bold it deserves:

Stop lying. When Republicans lie, people die.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #181 on: January 11, 2021, 06:20:30 PM »
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New: @FBI now reports in a bulletin "Armed protests are being planned at all 50 state capitols from 16 January through at least 20 January, and at the US Capitol from 17 January through 20 January,”
@AaronKatersky reports.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #182 on: January 11, 2021, 06:39:11 PM »
Biden apparently said something about opposing the NRA this morning, and OF COURSE the Nazis are losing it.
I'm not losing it, but there's certainly grounds to oppose some of Biden's agenda.
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He also said he wants to “put America on the path to ensuring that 100% of firearms sold in America are smart guns” and that he will “issue a call to action for gun manufacturers, dealers, and other public and private entities to take steps to accelerate our transition to smart guns.”
No thanks.  If I want a gun, I want an uncomplicated, ain't gonna be finicky, ain't gonna break when I want it to work gun.  I want to fix my gun myself and not be reliant on some corporate entity for it.  I don't want my personal data stored in it either, as that only creates liabilities for me, should it fall into the wrong hands.  No cyberguns, thank U very much.  Cyber anything can be hacked.

I have plenty of experience working on cars, and know the risks of over-technologizing things.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #183 on: January 11, 2021, 07:29:49 PM »
Oookay.

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Incidentally, I predict we'll understand what was going on in Nashville much better by the morning of the 21st.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #184 on: January 11, 2021, 07:37:55 PM »
Who am I to ignore people doing my work for me?

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #185 on: January 11, 2021, 07:57:51 PM »
The NY Bar Association is moving to remove Rudy Giuliani from its membership.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #186 on: January 11, 2021, 09:28:38 PM »
I don't know why I haven't already been vaccinated.  I bring this up in this here politics thread because the problem's mostly political, I think.  This "prioritizing" is the worst sort of [nonsense]; fear that somebody who don't deserve it might get it before someone who does, noting that healthy young Marco Rubio has got it and I, a 56 year-old smoker with type two diabetes and strong allergies, don't even see it on the spring horizon.  [nonsense].

Republicans administering like Democrats is what it is.


Just truck them vaccines en mass wherever flu shots with finicky refrigeration needs would go, and vaccinate first come like flu every year, and you'll get most everyone who's gonna by March.  The blood of 10s of thousands is on the hands of who-all came up with this stupid distribution model.
  did you see the line of people (in cars) JUST in Volusia Co waiting to get a shot in the arm?  And I've got HIV/AIDS, had Cancer and other opertunistics, etc....  and 59...  I DON'T EXPECT to see it until April
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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #187 on: January 11, 2021, 09:30:18 PM »
Logistics... Logistics... Logistics...
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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #188 on: January 11, 2021, 10:32:30 PM »
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New: @FBI now reports in a bulletin "Armed protests are being planned at all 50 state capitols from 16 January through at least 20 January, and at the US Capitol from 17 January through 20 January,”
@AaronKatersky reports.

11:46 AM · Jan 11, 2021·Twitter Web App
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... yes?  That would be a bunch of right-wing crazies, not [Sleezebag] himself who is one out-of-shape senior citizen and fairly stupid to boot.  I've already said [Sleezebag]'s mob is dangerous.  I feel like we're talking past each other here.
[Sleezebag] represents an inflection point in the radicalization of the American right, but not as much of one as is commonly supposed.  The absurd Obama-is-a-Muslim/Kenyan lie was positively geriatric before [Sleezebag] came along and revived it, and the congressional GOP was getting progressively (har) more intransigent before [Sleezebag] won.  When Merrick Garland got obstructed, it was something of a hail mary, since most everyone expected Hillary to win.  [Sleezebag] has been remarkably unwilling to live in or acknowledge reality, but even in this he only reflects the larger movement.  The man spends most of his waking hours on the internet absorbing the latest and greatest nuttery.  He then spits out what he thinks the mob wants to hear, wrapped up in self-congratulation or self-pity as the occasion warrants.  In this, he is little different from any other politician, he's just got a base nobody else was willing to touch until he came along.

As for his current role in the broader psycho loon movement, it is largely as a symbolic figurehead others project their ideals onto; he concocted no part of the Q mythology, for example, and the Proud Boys self-organized.  The "work" he performs could be done equally well by basically anyone who can use social media and lacks a functioning sense of shame.  There are literally dozens if not hundreds of eligible internet personalities who could take over as moon pope, and almost all are significantly smarter and more driven than he is.  He is presently hogging the spotlight; should he be eliminated, one little shark will eat the others, or else the little sharks will divide up the ocean depths between them.  Either way, the mob remains.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #189 on: January 11, 2021, 10:53:06 PM »
Other than [Sleezebag]... which person has no shame, wants to be moon pope, seemingly has a reasonable amount of money, business contacts, political contacts, and the ability to make a run at the Presidency?  There's more than just the first 2 ingredients here.

If you don't think [Sleezebag] has these resources now, feel free to analyze his run in the past tense, as to what a "replacement" would also need to bring to the table.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #190 on: January 11, 2021, 11:15:08 PM »
Again, [Sleezebag] was not especially significant as President.  He barely used the official powers of his office, and to the extent he did he mostly either functioned as a standard GOP figure (tax cuts, court appointments) or else to harass critics or personally enrich himself.  Many of his attempts to abuse power were thwarted by noncompliant underlings.  Mostly he wasted money on half of a useless wall, and also was somewhat more cruel to immigrants than Obama.  In war he vacillated between aggression and isolationism.

Considered as a spiritual head of a bizarre political cult--which may or may not coincide with the presidency, and in my opinion probably won't in the future--there are any number of potential heirs on the internet and in what passes for the real world these days.  I'm not familiar with all or even most of them, but Dan Bongino springs to mind.  From now on I assume the movement will exist outside of official power, influencing GOP elections but probably not winning the presidency with anyone like [Sleezebag] anytime soon.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #191 on: January 11, 2021, 11:20:26 PM »
One thing [Sleezebag] most definitely did do as President, is marginalize, sideline, and purge many Republicans in the party as "disloyal".  Thereby accomplishing a major shift in party politics towards the right, towards white supremacy specifically.  That's not inconsequential.  And I am not optimistic that people sidelined, have the spine to stand up to his movement.  I note that the list of Republicans condemning [Sleezebag], are mostly people out of office.  They're not directly in the crosshairs and don't have something to lose.  Now, maybe they're signalling they'd like to get back in, but with the inertia of this train, it's not certain they're gonna.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #192 on: January 11, 2021, 11:21:25 PM »
'Lok - have you read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, perchance?

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #193 on: January 11, 2021, 11:46:09 PM »
Hit him in the pocket book....  https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2021/01/11/pga-championship-2022-drops-trumps-bedminster-course-as-venue/?sh=223394a38767

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In a statement released on Twitter, PGA of America President Jim Richerson announced on Sunday night the golf association’s board of directors have voted to terminate the agreement to play the tournament at the [Sleezebag]-owned golf course.

In a video posted on the organization’s website, Richerson said that hosting the tournament at [Sleezebag] Bedminster would be “detrimental” to the PGA of America’s brand.

The statement, however, made no direct references to [Sleezebag]’s or his supporters’ action in Washington last Wednesday, something that has been decried by organizations and corporations across the country.

The PGA has not named a replacement venue for the tournament as of yet.

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The fallout of last week’s events has not just been limited to [Sleezebag], but also his allies in Congress. At least four major corporations have suspended contributions through their corporate PACs to Republican lawmakers who challenged the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory. This includes hospitality giant Marriott International, the health insurance network Blue Cross Blue Shield, bank holding company Commerce Bancshares and Citibank. Others like Bank of America, Ford Motor Co. and AT&T have all announced they will take recent events into consideration before making future donations, while CVS Health Corp., Exxon Mobil, FedEx and Target said they are reviewing their political giving.
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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #194 on: January 11, 2021, 11:56:42 PM »
  Either way, the mob remains.
Yeppers and they would love to have [Sleezebag] "Martyred" for the cause...  Especially now that there is talk of nationwide violent protest, esp if he's removed before the 20th...  (but will likely do so no matter if or not).  So, let them do so, then round them up and shoot them for their idiocy...
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