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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #150 on: January 10, 2021, 07:46:55 PM »
Arnold calls Wen "the Day of Broken Glass" in US

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #151 on: January 10, 2021, 07:48:51 PM »
Yes he did.
Watch this.  Wallpaper the nets with it.

Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger: "President [Sleezebag] is a Failed Leader"

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #152 on: January 10, 2021, 08:00:49 PM »
I missed that one this morning...
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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #153 on: January 10, 2021, 08:05:59 PM »
Yes you did.

Strong open, sorta ruined with the Conan and metallurgy towards the end.  I mostly like it for being in fluent right-wing, if not English - I'm very much hoping my ignorant cousins watch it.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #154 on: January 10, 2021, 08:38:51 PM »
Rep. Meijer: I experienced the heinous assault on Capitol; now, time to face reality

Peter Meijer
Published 10:46 p.m. ET Jan. 9, 2021

On Wednesday afternoon in the House Chamber, I assured a colleague we were in the most secure possible place as we unpacked gas masks.

Tear gas had been deployed after violent protestors stormed the rotunda, but as we took cover under bulletproof chairs I assured my colleague we would be fine. After all, there had been incidents in the past, but Capitol Police had maintained control over the seat of our democracy since 1814.

The mob then rushed the barricaded doors to the chamber, trying to break them down. The illusion of security, of the sanctity of our constitutional order, collapsed. With guns drawn, police ordered us to evacuate, leading to chaos as we fled down corridors and into the tunnels beneath Capitol Hill. Several times our group of lawmakers found ourselves alone, with no police escort, fearful of what threats might lie around the next corner.


I assured a colleague we were in the most secure possible place as we unpacked gas masks, Meijer writes. Andrew Harnik, AP


We eventually took shelter in a committee hearing room, coming to grips with the appalling assault on our democracy we had suffered first-hand. Some rioters were armed, and at least one carried flex-cuffs to take hostages. Pipe bombs were discovered and neutralized. Outside the Capitol, a gallows with a noose for our necks had been assembled. It was clear Capitol Police had underestimated the threat, but they were not alone.

I was one of the few Republicans who had already acknowledged Joe Biden as president-elect, and earlier in the week I had joined a handful of GOP colleagues in noting our constitutional responsibility to certify the Electoral College results. We had seen calls on the far right for the vice president to pull an imaginary “Pence Card” and overturn the election results.

To the fringe, Vice President Mike Pence’s failure to seize fictional powers was tantamount to treason and there were suggestions Pence be put to death. While the Capitol was being assaulted by his supporters who were duped into believing the election was in fact a landslide victory and the true results could be overturned, [Sleezebag] egged on these violent delusions.

Before the assault, [Sleezebag] had addressed the crowd and urged his loyalists to march on the Capitol, “to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones … give them the pride and boldness they need to take back our country.”

They took something alright. Hours later, after the Capitol was cleared of insurrectionists, with windows shattered and the smell of tear gas lingering, the consequences of his dangerous lies became clear. As we moved to accept Arizona’s electors, a fellow freshman lingered near a voting terminal, voting card in hand.

My colleague told me that efforts to overturn the election were wrong, and that voting to certify was a constitutional duty. But my colleague feared for family members, and the danger the vote would put them in. Profoundly shaken, my colleague voted to overturn.

An angry mob succeeded in threatening at least one member of Congress from performing what that member understood was a constitutional responsibility.

Worse yet, while a dead woman’s blood dried mere feet from our chamber, other Republican colleagues doubled down, repeating lies of a stolen election, baselessly deflecting blame for the Capitol assault from [Sleezebag] loyalists to Antifa, doing whatever they could to justify, equivocate, rationalize or otherwise avoid taking responsibility for the consequences of their actions.


Rep. Peter Meijer Ike Hayman

Blood has been spilled, and those who encouraged this insurrection are in too deep.

Those of us who refused to cower, who have told the truth, have suffered the consequences. Republican colleagues who have spoken out have been accosted on the street, received death threats, and even assigned armed security.

I have been called a traitor more times than I can count. I regret not bringing my gun to D.C.


It didn’t have to end like this, with five people dead, including a Capitol Police officer. This should be a moment of reckoning for the country as a whole, and the conservative movement in particular.

If the Republican party ever hopes to regain the public’s trust and lead the country forward after this heinous assault, it must first be honest with itself.

Freshman Rep. Peter Meijer, R-Grand Rapids, represents Michigan's 3rd Congressional District in the U.S. House of Representatives.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #155 on: January 10, 2021, 08:57:26 PM »
He is an ass, but an OK ass. 
Very wealthy family, and understanding his background goes a lot to understanding his thinking.

As a teacher - I just wonder if it will lead to them understanding how schools go though having to do security and lockdown trainings, etc.  Particularly when they have gas masks and bullet proof seats - yet we have what?  Lead paint on 90 year old cinderblocks....
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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #156 on: January 10, 2021, 08:58:00 PM »
The House could vote as soon as Tuesday on an impeachment article, the chamber’s No. 3 Democrat said.

-biden/the-house-could-vote-as-soon-as-tuesday-on-an-impeachment-article-the-chambers-no-3-democrat-said]https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/10/us/joe-[Sleezebag]-biden/the-house-could-vote-as-soon-as-tuesday-on-an-impeachment-article-the-chambers-no-3-democrat-said

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The No. 3 House Democrat said on Sunday that the chamber could vote as soon as Tuesday on an article of impeachment charging President [Sleezebag] with inciting a violent mob that attacked the Capitol — but then delay sending it to the Senate for trial.

Representative James E. Clyburn of South Carolina, the Democratic whip, said that the vast majority of House Democrats believed the president must be impeached for his conduct but that top leaders were still trying to determine how to punish Mr. [Sleezebag] without hamstringing the first days of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s presidency with an all-consuming Senate trial. They recognized it would be impossible to impeach and hold a trial before Mr. [Sleezebag] leaves office in 10 days, he said.

“If we are the people’s house, let’s do the people’s work and let’s vote to impeach this president,” Mr. Clyburn said on “Fox News Sunday.” “The Senate will decide later what to do with that impeachment.”

In a separate interview on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Mr. Clyburn suggested that Speaker Nancy Pelosi was considering impeaching now but not sending the article to the Senate for trial for weeks — possibly until after Mr. Biden’s first 100 days in office. The Senate must immediately begin a trial when it receives impeachment articles, but it cannot begin one without them.

“Let’s give President-elect Biden the 100 days he needs to get his agenda off and running,” said Mr. Clyburn, an influential ally to the incoming president. “And maybe we will send the articles sometime after that.”

The comments came after senior Democrats had met late into the night on Saturday discussing possible options for the week ahead, as support for impeachment grew to encompass nearly their entire caucus. House leaders were giving extra attention to security concerns that could affect the timing after last weeks events, working with the U.S. Air Marshals and the Capitol Police to ensure lawmakers could travel safely back to Washington for a vote.

They also came as pressure against the president continued to build. Senator Patrick J. Toomey of Pennsylvania became the second Republican senator to call for Mr. [Sleezebag] to resign. And Mick Mulvaney, the president’s former acting chief of staff and a former congressman from South Carolina, said he would consider voting for articles of impeachment if he were still in the House, and predicted many other Republicans would do the same.

As of Sunday morning, 195 of 222 House Democrats had signed onto the article of impeachment drawn up by Representative David Cicilline of Rhode Island, Jamie Raskin of Maryland and Ted Lieu of California. It charges Mr. [Sleezebag] with “willfully inciting violence against the government of the United States.”

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #157 on: January 10, 2021, 08:59:10 PM »
He is an ass, but an OK ass. 
Very wealthy family, and understanding his background goes a lot to understanding his thinking.

As a teacher - I just wonder if it will lead to them understanding how schools go though having to do security and lockdown trainings, etc.  Particularly when they have gas masks and bullet proof seats - yet we have what?  Lead paint on 90 year old cinderblocks....
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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #159 on: January 10, 2021, 09:49:42 PM »
Two Black capitol police officers report, in addition to other aspects of having a very bad day Wednesday, they got called [black and proud]s A LOT...

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« Reply #160 on: January 10, 2021, 09:50:26 PM »
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« Reply #161 on: January 10, 2021, 11:03:38 PM »
I remember an anecdote from Chernow's Hamilton, where Washington had an opportunity to capture a British general but refrained on Hamilton's advice.  Hamilton argued that, if the man were eliminated, King George would only replace him with somebody else, and he would have a hard time finding someone equally incompetent.  That's more or less how I feel about impeachment.  Leaving aside the part where he's unlikely to ever be voted into power again after this, the difficulties of getting this past a Republican congress, the relative worth of catharsis, etc., [Sleezebag]'s followers are scary, and [Sleezebag] himself is still the stupidest, laziest, most cowardly [some term your autocensor will prune anyway, take your pick] ever to shame the White House.  I want him to remain in control of his movement as long as possible, uselessly sucking up cash like a televangelist in a bad suit and ostracizing everyone who threatens him with their competence and independent judgment.  I doubt impeachment will happen anyhow, but I don't see the benefit.  Which is not to say that I can't see the visceral appeal, especially if you're a congresscritter who just spent several hours hiding in his/her office.

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« Reply #162 on: January 10, 2021, 11:31:20 PM »
and they still voted to follow the guy.  If the Mob had really tasted blood and had gotten further involved into their "Revolution", they would have found that they would have been inline to that one impromptu gallows or hung in the House/Senate Chambers or even the Rotunda...
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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #163 on: January 10, 2021, 11:57:10 PM »
Jesus, Elok.  ;no

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #164 on: January 11, 2021, 01:08:52 AM »
Quote from: Jonathan Myerson Katz Twitter
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