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Offline Flux

Re: Star Trek
« Reply #915 on: January 11, 2015, 04:52:56 AM »
I've seen around 50 episodes of the original Star Trek on Netflix. Can't get enough of it. That and Twilight Zone might be the best things on Netflix. I could never get into any of the other series.
It's an interesting show, no doubt. But if you've seen any of the original series, the bloopers will make you laugh.
STAR TREK BLOOPERS 1960`s Original Series

Also, on the first episode there is a different captain... I think it was "Captain Pike" or something. Was he just for the pilot? I think they actually mentioned in that episode that he planned to resign.
This is also a pretty funny parody of it.
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Offline Valka

Re: Star Trek
« Reply #916 on: January 11, 2015, 05:27:16 AM »
I've seen around 50 episodes of the original Star Trek on Netflix. Can't get enough of it. That and Twilight Zone might be the best things on Netflix. I could never get into any of the other series.
It's an interesting show, no doubt. But if you've seen any of the original series, the bloopers will make you laugh.
STAR TREK BLOOPERS 1960`s Original Series
Also, on the first episode there is a different captain... I think it was "Captain Pike" or something. Was he just for the pilot? I think they actually mentioned in that episode that he planned to resign.
This is also a pretty funny parody of it.

Captain Pike was only in the first pilot, originally titled "The Cage." This episode was later incorporated into a two-part episode called "The Menagerie." The actor who played Pike, Jeffrey Hunter, was unavailable for the second pilot, and a few years later he died in an accident (a shame, since he was a good actor; my favorite of his non-Trek roles is Jesus in the movie King of Kings). Who knows how Star Trek would have fared if Hunter had stayed in the part of the Captain? There has been a lot of debate over his and William Shatner's approaches to acting in general and on Star Trek in particular. This is one of those things we'll never know.

As for the parody... sorry, not a nuTrek fan here. Not one bit.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #917 on: January 16, 2015, 01:52:01 AM »

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #918 on: January 16, 2015, 02:06:02 AM »
Is nuTrek the next generation series?
I remember trying to watch that. it felt so wrong after watching the 60's version. I turned it off and never looked back about halfway through the first episode.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #919 on: January 16, 2015, 02:22:53 AM »
Is nuTrek the next generation series?
I remember trying to watch that. it felt so wrong after watching the 60's version. I turned it off and never looked back about halfway through the first episode.
The Star Trek spinoffs are The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager. The Animated Series is an animated attempt to continue the Original Series. There was a "prequel" series called Enterprise, that contradicts a lot of stuff established in the Original Series, the Animated Series, and The Next Generation. Personally I don't consider Enterprise to be real Star Trek, any more than I consider the two (soon to be three) Abrams movies to be real Star Trek. The fan films are more authentic than either Enterprise or nuTrek.

The term "nuTrek" refers to the Abrams movies that started coming out in 2009. In my opinion these movies are utter garbage, for many reasons, and therefore I refuse to accord them the status of genuine, authentic Star Trek. So when I refer to nuTrek this series of movies is what I mean. NuKirk, nuSpock, nuMcCoy, nuScotty, nuUhura, nuChekov, and nuSulu refer to the characters in these abominable movies. As far as I'm concerned, they're just caricatures of the real characters.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #920 on: January 16, 2015, 02:53:59 AM »
Is nuTrek the next generation series?
I remember trying to watch that. it felt so wrong after watching the 60's version. I turned it off and never looked back about halfway through the first episode.
The Star Trek spinoffs are The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager. The Animated Series is an animated attempt to continue the Original Series. There was a "prequel" series called Enterprise, that contradicts a lot of stuff established in the Original Series, the Animated Series, and The Next Generation. Personally I don't consider Enterprise to be real Star Trek, any more than I consider the two (soon to be three) Abrams movies to be real Star Trek. The fan films are more authentic than either Enterprise or nuTrek.

The term "nuTrek" refers to the Abrams movies that started coming out in 2009. In my opinion these movies are utter garbage, for many reasons, and therefore I refuse to accord them the status of genuine, authentic Star Trek. So when I refer to nuTrek this series of movies is what I mean. NuKirk, nuSpock, nuMcCoy, nuScotty, nuUhura, nuChekov, and nuSulu refer to the characters in these abominable movies. As far as I'm concerned, they're just caricatures of the real characters.
Eh, the only StarTrek I ever liked was the 60's series.
So I guess I'm anti-nuTrek to an extent.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #921 on: January 16, 2015, 06:53:50 PM »
The first season of TNG is ESPECIALLY painful, but the series hits a decent stride 3-4 seasons in. 

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #922 on: January 16, 2015, 06:58:11 PM »
It was getting better when they quit making it, as far as characterization of the regulars.

-But they'd run a lot of tropes into the ground (think holodeck stories, for example) years before with no signs of stopping...

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #923 on: January 16, 2015, 07:17:08 PM »
It was getting better when they quit making it, as far as characterization of the regulars.

-But they'd run a lot of tropes into the ground (think holodeck stories, for example) years before with no signs of stopping...

Holodeck, Q, space anomaly of the week...

yeah....

Saw one the other day, started out most fascinating with the death of an extra, but they were showing all the different crew members attempting to cope with the loss.  It was going to be the anti-extra-joke episode, and was rather interesting...

And then they ruined it by introducing some bizarro alien BS into the mix and turned it into the extra joke as all grief was pretty much just brushed off.  Man, just let the characters grow for god sake. 

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #924 on: January 16, 2015, 07:24:13 PM »
The writing was just plain bad - and as you noted in the first season, EVERYTHING was bad.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #925 on: January 25, 2015, 03:51:57 AM »
Has anybody here seen GalaxyQuest?
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #926 on: January 25, 2015, 04:00:48 AM »
Yes.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #927 on: January 25, 2015, 06:36:25 AM »
The writing was just plain bad - and as you noted in the first season, EVERYTHING was bad.

My problem with Next Generation  was basically the existence of counselor Troy. If they'd properly utilized her, they could have solved many of their problems and crushed the plots of their episodes without getting into dire peril, and deprived the series of drama.The fact that they didn't makes Piccard and his first officer look stupid and incompetent. Why Data never suggested it is beyond me. The solution is not to have the character with such abilities to begin with.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #928 on: January 25, 2015, 07:38:50 AM »
Empath code of conduct, perhaps?
And, after all, she was kinda a psychologist on the ship.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #929 on: January 25, 2015, 02:40:49 PM »
No - Rusty is right.

 

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