Star Trek

[Buster's Uncle]

This is definitely true - we need to see him doing the stock Kirk stuff before we can be sure he a good Kirk.

Did you think he carried off trying to kiss the doctor in proper Kirk style?  (Needy, sick in-crisis ala' Dagger of the Mind Kirk being an entirely different creature than in-control-and-charming-on-purpose Kirk, as exampled in Conscience of the King, mind you.  There's something lonely and needy deep inside the man that's looking for The One, contrary to his reputation as a womanizer - which he is, but only a little.)

[Valka]

This is definitely true - we need to see him doing the stock Kirk stuff before we can be sure he a good Kirk.

Did you think he carried off trying to kiss the doctor in proper Kirk style?  (Needy, sick in-crisis ala' Dagger of the Mind Kirk being an entirely different creature than in-control-and-charming-on-purpose Kirk, as exampled in Conscience of the King, mind you.  There's something lonely and needy deep inside the man that's looking for The One, contrary to his reputation as a womanizer - which he is, but only a little.)

Kirk in Dagger of the Mind only kissed Helen because he was being mind-controlled. In Conscience of the King, he was using Lenore to get to her father, not knowing at the time that he was romancing a serial killer.

I wonder if there's a YouTube video of all the Kirk kisses (actually I'd be surprised if there isn't one). I should compare them and see if Brian Gross' technique is anywhere near that of William Shatner's (not planning to gather evidence in person  ).

[Buster's Uncle]

Ewwww.

I can never unsee the mental image of old fat Shatner macking on Lala Ward.

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I'm not sure your characterization of either episode is entirely accurate - in both cases, I think there was also a non-trivial element of Kirk Digs the Ladies in the mix.  Lenore really got to him, y'know, despite his initial motivation.  I don't know what he saw in her, but she got to him...

[Valka]

Ewwww.

I can never unsee the mental image of old fat Shatner macking on Lala Ward.

WHAT???!!! 

When were William Shatner and Lalla Ward in the same show?

[Buster's Uncle]

Never, that I'm aware of.

[Valka]

Then I don't understand your previous post.

[Buster's Uncle]

I know a lady, who looks kinda like Lala Ward, who sez she's not interested in kissing old fat Bill Shatner...

[Valka]

Okay, now I get it. Actually, William Shatner was never my idea of someone to kiss, even when he was much younger.


On the subject of Kirk and Lenore... I get that Kirk likes beautiful women, but at that time in the series, he was supposed to be 33-34 years old, and she was 19. That's just slightly less inappropriate than some of what was going on in Miri, where the female character was supposed to be something like the equivalent of 13-14 years old, at most.

[Buster's Uncle]

I'll have Kirk's back in the case of Miri - he did nothing to encourage her - and she was, after all, about 300 years older than him.

But yeah, wanting to get involved with Lenoe was a bad idea, even leaving out her being a mad-dog killer.

[Buster's Uncle]

'Star Trek' Suds: Canadian Company Boldly Brews a Klingon Ale
SPACE.com
By Elizabeth Howell  December 12, 2014 12:30 PM



gons come out to Halifax, Nova Scotia's Garrison Brewing after the launch of Klingon Warnog Roggen Dunkel Ale in November 2014.



A new "Star Trek"-themed beer warped into stores in Canada in November, and it's making a splash.

A Klingon ale concept made it big last month after a Canadian brewery heard that it had approval from "Star Trek" creators to make the beer. A company in Vulcan, Alberta, collaborated with Nova Scotia's Garrison Brewing to create the Klingon Warnog Roggen Dunkel Ale in time for a comic convention in Halifax in November.

"We’re beer geeks and a lot of us are sci-fi geeks, so it was a pretty logical fit," said Brian Titus, the president and co-founder of Garrison. "We just love the idea of doing it. The neat thing about 'Star Trek' is over the years, there have been so many variations of it. It's gone on in some different form for decades, and everyone can relate to it."

And the response to the Warnog ale was far more than what Titus, who created his craft-beer brewery in 1997, ever expected. In fact, it led to a brief Klingon invasion of his Halifax-based location.


Klingon Warnog: A warrior's ale

The beer collaboration dates back to licensing agreements that Alberta-based Federation of Beer made with CBS/Paramount a few years ago. Federation was interested in creating Vulcan ale with a brewery in Montana, an idea that received warm support from beer lovers and "Star Trek" fans alike.

When Federation approached Garrison in hopes that a Canadian brewery would make a beer with them, Titus said he jumped at the opportunity. It was up to his brewery to create the recipe, so he decided to go for the unexpected.



Klingon Warnog Roggen Dunkel Ale on the shelves after Garrison Brewing's launch of the Star Trek-themed beer.


The base was a dark German weissbeer, which is usually light and hazy, but Garrison added chocolate, dark malts and spices to change things up. "There's a lot of neat things going on in this brew," Titus told Space.com.

Warnog is a Klingon alcoholic beverage that is not quite as popular as bloodwine, according to "Star Trek"-themed site Memory Beta, but it was mentioned on television in shows like "Star Trek: The Next Generation."


A beer with honor

In this case, a healthy contingent of Klingons showed up in association with Hal-Con (a comic convention held Nov. 7-9). The local Klingon Assault Group, which does a number of charity events, not only drank the beer but helped serve it to other willing clients, Titus said.

"We knew it would tap a nerve, but we didn't realize it was quite as big a nerve as we saw," he said. "We had long-time customers – we've never exchanged the words 'Star Trek' before – come in wearing some T-shirt from back in the day and picking up a four-pack."

Even after paying Paramount a licensing fee, the brewery still turned a healthy profit and is looking to get the ale on the shelves in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick. More "Star Trek" brew is coming in the future, Titus added.

"We'll definitely be doing this beer again," Titus said. "Then there's also the Vulcan ale in the lineup as a potential brew for us to do here, and there are a couple of other ideas that could stew around."

You can learn more about the Klingon Warnog brew at the Federation of Beer website: http://www.federationofbeer.com/.

http://news.yahoo.com/star-trek-suds-canadian-company-boldly-brews-klingon-173055170.html

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No thank you.

[Geo]

Blood bear?
Btw, what kinda Star Trek outfit do you run around in, BUncle? The ears? A phaser set to stun? Captains' badge?

[Buster's Uncle]

I had a blue science division 'Spock' shirt when I was 12 - never wore it much and don't know what became of it.

I was never a fan of geeks running around in public dressed up, and RenFairs reinforced that.  Saw too many friends going out after the show without changing and declared that I don't freak out the squares unless I'm getting paid.

Didn't that Geek Hierarchy chart I posted a few years ago have Klingon cosplayers at the bottom of Star Trek fandom?  It's certainly how I feel.

[Unorthodox]

Personally, I respect the Klingon cosplayer a lot more that a Federation jumpsuit or shirt wearer.  Some real work goes into a Klingon getup, and it would NOT be comfortable.  Really had to respect those poor slobs at the Trek hotel doodad back in the day.  Half the Federation types didn't even attempt to stay in character.  The Klingons were always 'on', and fantastic. 

[Buster's Uncle]

I never met anyone cosplaying a real Klingon...

[Geo]

I never met anyone cosplaying a real Klingon...

But... the ridged ones have so much more élan!