Star Trek

[Valka]

I disagree: that's only a sign of how much a character gives nerdz the horn.

I don't understand what that means.

[Buster's Uncle]

COUGHmakesthemhornyCOUGH   

I always felt their should have been a DS9
I couldn't disagree with both of you more about Seven of Nine. She's my favorite Voyager character.

Well their has always been a character 'searching for their humanity' in every series, from Spock, Data, Odo, Seven and T'Pol (though you might argue T'Pol is searching for an understanding of humanity rather then her own).  So I don't object to that premise, again it just comes down to bad writing, everyone on Voyager is badly written Seven included, is she the worst, no not by a long shot.  I think Harry Kim takes the cake on that one.  (Yes even worse then Kes, you actually REMEMBER Kes, you literally forget Kim even exists)

Buster:  I agree Bakula acting skill was good and he used that to compensate for bad writing, the rest of the cast was far weaker and could not compensate.  I think the writers even knew this on some level and the Archer character ended up shouldering a disproportionate share of the whole series compared to TNG which did a good job of spreading out the material among the whole cast and developing all the characters fully.  The wooden-crew syndrome was self-reinforcing, weak actors get lower quality writing and less screen time, leading to weaker character development and poorer writing in a downward spiral.  The Captain character alone can not sustain a Series for more then 1-2 years, a series lifespan is directly proportional to how many compelling characters it can develop, in TNG & DS9 it was the whole cast, in Voyager (in my opinion) no one and in Enterprise just 2.

They had trouble casting the leads half the time; Brooks and Mulgrew were in over their heads/miscast.  You can't overcome terrible writing, and you can't work around the star of the show sucking.

[Valka]

COUGHmakesthemhornyCOUGH   

I always felt their should have been a DS9
I couldn't disagree with both of you more about Seven of Nine. She's my favorite Voyager character.

Well their has always been a character 'searching for their humanity' in every series, from Spock, Data, Odo, Seven and T'Pol (though you might argue T'Pol is searching for an understanding of humanity rather then her own).  So I don't object to that premise, again it just comes down to bad writing, everyone on Voyager is badly written Seven included, is she the worst, no not by a long shot.  I think Harry Kim takes the cake on that one.  (Yes even worse then Kes, you actually REMEMBER Kes, you literally forget Kim even exists)

Buster:  I agree Bakula acting skill was good and he used that to compensate for bad writing, the rest of the cast was far weaker and could not compensate.  I think the writers even knew this on some level and the Archer character ended up shouldering a disproportionate share of the whole series compared to TNG which did a good job of spreading out the material among the whole cast and developing all the characters fully.  The wooden-crew syndrome was self-reinforcing, weak actors get lower quality writing and less screen time, leading to weaker character development and poorer writing in a downward spiral.  The Captain character alone can not sustain a Series for more then 1-2 years, a series lifespan is directly proportional to how many compelling characters it can develop, in TNG & DS9 it was the whole cast, in Voyager (in my opinion) no one and in Enterprise just 2.

They had trouble casting the leads half the time; Brooks and Mulgrew were in over their heads/miscast.  You can't overcome terrible writing, and you can't work around the star of the show sucking.

Um... I harbor exactly ZERO sexual feelings for either Jeri Ryan or Robert Duncan MacNeil.

Kate Mulgrew was better than the actress they originally had to play Janeway.

I hardly read any DS9 fanfic.

[Buster's Uncle]

You're lucky Spud's so fast...

[Valka]

Why?

[Buster's Uncle]

Because that's so awesome.

[Valka]

On another forum, Spud is accompanied by three little pigs.

[Buster's Uncle]

And Kes was accompanied by Nelix.

[Buster's Uncle]

http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=7865

[Valka]

And Kes was accompanied by Nelix.

I was referring to my sig on another forum.

[Buster's Uncle]

I was comparing Nelix to pigs.

I apologize to pigs for that.

[Impaler]

What?? Nelix was easily one of the better characters on Voyager.

Um... I harbor exactly ZERO sexual feelings for either Jeri Ryan or Robert Duncan MacNeil.

Kate Mulgrew was better than the actress they originally had to play Janeway.

I hardly read any DS9 fanfic.

I Think Buster meant that the quantity of fan-fiction about a certain character is proportional to their fan-base wide sex-appeal, not that your reading choices were determined by your such feelings.  It's just statistically more likely that 7of9 will be the subject of any randomly selected fan-fiction.

Who was originally cast to play Janeway?

[Buster's Uncle]

I am surrounded by Klingons.

They ate the Philistines for being too sophisticated.

[Impaler]

Mind you when I say 'Better' on Voyager it is all relative to just the other characters on Voyager, aka Harry Kim's and Tuvoks that just fade into the background.  Why don't you elaborate on which characters were better or worse if you think my opinions are Klingish.

[Buster's Uncle]

I will when I get caught up on my duties.  It's not a subject for brevity.

I Think BU meant that the quantity of fan-fiction about a certain character is proportional to their fan-base wide sex-appeal, not that your reading choices were determined by your such feelings.  It's just statistically more likely that 7of9 will be the subject of any randomly selected fan-fiction.

With correction, correct.

Who was originally cast to play Janeway?

Geneviève Bujold - most notable as Anne Boleyn in Anne of the Thousand Days (a film with the subjective runtime right there in the title.  -Gorgeous to look at, though, on many levels, despite Richard Burton).

I posted video of her as 'Nicole' Janeway many pages back. and I cannot agree that Mulgrew was better.  I could have played a better Janeway.