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Offline Sriseru

Purple and Pink?
« on: March 20, 2014, 03:16:25 PM »
I was working on the graphics of my Alpha Equulei mod when I encountered a pretty big problem. As probably all of you know, SMAC uses both pink and purple to identify which areas are to be transparent. Unfortunately, one of my new faction leaders has a lot of both...

Original ImageSMAC PaletteIn-Game

I'm unsure of how to solve this problem and would love some advice on this matter. Ideally, I'm looking for a solution that doesn't require radically altering the character's hair color.

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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2014, 03:56:16 PM »
You want Kilkakon.  He can tell you how to change the palette.

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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2014, 06:03:08 PM »
Would a leader picture be affected? it isn't really used in the game screen, only in the info sections and diplomacy/council screens?

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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2014, 06:10:51 PM »
Those pixels display black, thus the third picture.

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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2014, 06:13:36 PM »
Ah, I see.

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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2014, 06:49:07 PM »
Hmmmm.  There is a few darker shades of purple that I can see on the palette.  You could try them and see if you like the hair color.  Otherwise, you will likely have to change her hair color to green, blue, brown, red, orange, blue/green, etc.  The shade you picked is almost exactly the same shade as the transparency color.

Also... is she an original character?  I don't recognize her.

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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2014, 06:57:45 PM »
That's a My Little Pony.

As Sri said in the OP, he wants those colors - but I wonder that just changing the shade slightly hasn't worked.

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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2014, 08:01:23 PM »
I do a lot of reasonably acceptable image importing for my own games, but I use an old version (3.11) of Paint Shop Pro. Over the past couple of days I tried a few things. I can preserve the Pink (index 243), but I can't preserve the Purple (index 252 and 255). Changing the color of index 255 to 000,255,255 (Cyan) didn't work for me  ??? The purple still came out black.
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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2014, 08:19:15 PM »
Changing to the closest shade -not those exact colors- in the SMAC(X) palette ought to do the trick.

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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2014, 09:09:37 PM »
Oh.  I recognized it being My Little Pony: FIM.  I was curious if it was a background pony that I didn't know about or if Sriseru created an OC to avoid copyright issues.

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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2014, 09:31:22 PM »
I don't know if we have enough bronies here...

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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2014, 11:43:04 AM »
Hmmmm.  There is a few darker shades of purple that I can see on the palette.  You could try them and see if you like the hair color.  Otherwise, you will likely have to change her hair color to green, blue, brown, red, orange, blue/green, etc.  The shade you picked is almost exactly the same shade as the transparency color.

Also... is she an original character?  I don't recognize her.

Yeah, I guess I'll have to try and find some other shades of pink and purple that might work. If that doesn't work, I'll probably see if I can find and get some help from Kilkakon.

And yes, she's an original character, all of my new faction leaders are OCs. This is mostly because my mod takes place one or two centuries in the future of MLP:FiM. :3

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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2014, 04:27:06 PM »
I'm gonna have to put in some work into my tool so that you can ponify the units as well.

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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2014, 12:54:41 AM »
Can your image program edit the colour palette? :) If so, just change the two ingame transparent colours and you should be right. If not, send me the pcx and ideal image and I'll see what I can do.

I'm amused though, I had an epic pokemon one and now a MLP one is starting. My one advice: enjoy it for what it is and playing it with your own friends :) We don't really have many MLP fans here so yeah.

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Re: Purple and Pink?
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2014, 12:53:58 PM »
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Can your image program edit the colour palette?

No... but my research might help.  Each unit stores a copy of the color palette as rgb values.  So to get them to all render right when you change the main game color palette, you could use what I figured out to either change the units color or get the unit to use the new color properly. Otherwise it will most likely render incorrectly.

 

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