Eco-damage worm stack capture

[Buster's Uncle]

Yitzi, I promised to post it the next time I captured an eco-damage stack.  Well, here you go.

Attached is the save right after the capture; for good measure, also the autosave from the beginning of the turn, though I've not been able to repeat it.  The stack holds 18 NL - 15 worms and three spore launchers.  It may be significant that I finished the Voice of Planet right after the pops...

Enjoy.

[Geo]

Must set this thread to unread...

Which version of the game are you using for this one?

[Buster's Uncle]

This is unpatched.  V.1, I think.

Must set this thread to unread...

Oh?

[Yitzi]

Ok, thanks, I plan to take a look.  Though I'm not sure how much I'll be able to do if it can't be reproduced.

[Yitzi]

Well, I was able to reproduce it quite easily, and I looked at the code, and as far as I can tell, you should always be able to capture a whole stack (provided you'd be able to capture a single worm).  So if you can give an example of a case where you can't capture the whole stack, and there's no "capture failed" message, that might help figure out what, if anything, is going on.

[Buster's Uncle]

If that happens, I've never noticed...

[Yitzi]

That might be because you can't capture if your nearest base is producing ecodamage or the worms in question are due to your ecodamage (though in either case you'll get a message), and stacks that you can attack which don't fit either condition are quite rare.

[Buster's Uncle]

I'm pretty sure both conditions are met, though; adjacent base Apha1 is producing ecodamage, which caused the pop that produced the worms.

[Yitzi]

I'm pretty sure both conditions are met, though; adjacent base Apha1 is producing ecodamage, which caused the pop that produced the worms.

That's funny...when I look at it, it doesn't seem to be producing any.  Maybe you'd better provide the alphax.txt that you're using, maybe you're using different values than default.  And the unit information, where I think is "who it's targeting", shows "nobody"...

[Buster's Uncle]

Here.

On review, I see Alpha 1 was producing damage until some workers were displaced by pop-worms.  Put them back and it still is.  Naturally the damage was more before two fungal pops began the turn.  (The other is by Fungus Evreywhere, which I didn't name.)

I wonder if it matters that the tank I captured with is 'supported' by UN Headquarters...

[Buster's Uncle]

Huh.  While I was in the turn checking the ecodamage, I did it again.  This time I saved with the capturing unit still in place.

[Yitzi]

Here.

On review, I see Alpha 1 was producing damage until some workers were displaced by pop-worms.  Put them back and it still is.  Naturally the damage was more before two fungal pops began the turn.  (The other is by Fungus Evreywhere, which I didn't name.)

I wonder if it matters that the tank I captured with is 'supported' by UN Headquarters...

It does not matter where the unit is supported, only what the closest base you own is.

Huh.  While I was in the turn checking the ecodamage, I did it again.  This time I saved with the capturing unit still in place.

So what it looks like is happening is that the rule about "if the nearest base has ecodamage, you can't capture" is working (which is why it rarely happens that you can capture), but the rule about "if they're targeting you because they're a response to your ecodamage, you can't capture them" is not.  That is a bug, and one that I have put on the list to fix, though probably not in version 2.5.  I think I'll be able to replicate it, but in case I can't, it might be good to provide the autosave from before the pop that created the worms in question.

[Buster's Uncle]

You needed to ask for that at the time.

[Yitzi]

You needed to ask for that at the time.

Ah well.  So next time it happens, then.

[Buster's Uncle]

...And to my immense surprise, next time is now.  I just captured a fungal tower along with a eco-damage stack.

Enjoy.