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[vv221]

Before I start to work on it, I need one last information: is Mac OS file system case-sensitive?

[551262]

Short answer: Can be.

Long answer: Sort of. When you format a disk with Disk Utility (in OS X, Drive Setup in OS 9 I don't think has that option) you can format a disk as "Mac OS Extended, Journaled" which is what thought I chose.

Mac OS Extended is the same thing as HFS+. Mac OS Standard is plain HFS, used from ... oh, I think System 3.1, Finder 5.something, you had to have the HD20 INIT to use HFS, unless it came in ROM, as with the 512Ke onwards. HFS+ first came out with Mac OS 8.1 by default. It's a really good thing to use for OS 8.1 and I believe it is mandatory with 8.6+. The only thing which may be of concern is somebody using SMAC on a 604e CPU machine with 7.5.5, which if I recall correctly, 7.5.3 is the minimum to run SMAC, but I think there is practically zero people actually doing that.

For OS X, you can read this.

If you want, I can sort of help you out, starting in, oh, a week or so. I have an iMac G4 800MHz box with OS X 10.4.11, 10.2.8, and 9.2.2. Because my system is a triple boot I'd have to look at the filesystem profile and report yes/no. To be honest I don't actually know what it is right now.

P.S. Have some free cash? Buy an iMac G4 800MHz machine. They're good machines for older versions of Mac OS. They're kind of slow online though, and they are hampered a bit by their ATA/66 bus. But if you're never played with a Mac much...you ought to try one.

EDIT: Oh, and this one.

[vv221]

Short answer: Can be.

Long answer: Sort of.

Okay, I'll make the archive with a case-sensitive filesystem in mind, it will take a little bit longer but at least I'm sure it'll work.

When you format a disk with Disk Utility (in OS X, Drive Setup in OS 9 I don't think has that option) you can format a disk as "Mac OS Extended, Journaled" which is what thought I chose.

Mac OS Extended is the same thing as HFS+. Mac OS Standard is plain HFS, used from ... oh, I think System 3.1, Finder 5.something, you had to have the HD20 INIT to use HFS, unless it came in ROM, as with the 512Ke onwards. HFS+ first came out with Mac OS 8.1 by default. It's a really good thing to use for OS 8.1 and I believe it is mandatory with 8.6+. The only thing which may be of concern is somebody using SMAC on a 604e CPU machine with 7.5.5, which if I recall correctly, 7.5.3 is the minimum to run SMAC, but I think there is practically zero people actually doing that.

For OS X, you can read this.

If you want, I can sort of help you out, starting in, oh, a week or so. I have an iMac G4 800MHz box with OS X 10.4.11, 10.2.8, and 9.2.2. Because my system is a triple boot I'd have to look at the filesystem profile and report yes/no. To be honest I don't actually know what it is right now.

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Okay, I'm lost!

Don't bother with it anyway, if Mac OS may use a case-sensitive filesystem, it is better to assume it is when building this kind of archive.

P.S. Have some free cash? Buy an iMac G4 800MHz machine. They're good machines for older versions of Mac OS. They're kind of slow online though, and they are hampered a bit by their ATA/66 bus. But if you're never played with a Mac much...you ought to try one.

Well, I'm more than happy with my Debian.
If I buy a Mac, I won't even try Mac OS before putting a Debian on it, so I don't think it would be wisely spent money

I may try a Mac OS in a virtual machine, but it will wait until I've enough projects to test in it, to make the investment in a license worth of it.

[vv221]

Just noticed I need the files list for the two followings dirs: "Movies" & "Add-On Movies".

Thank you in advance!

[551262]

Really? Ahh...thought I could skip those. I'll pass those along sometime when I get a chance. Definitely by this Saturday.

P.S. Yes you can put Linux on a PPC Mac but I have never tried it because I figure it doesn't offer any advantage over an x86 box...As for running OS X in a VM...well, that's kind of murky to say the least.

P.P.S. I've tried Debian 6.0.7 but felt that it might be too nerdy for me. I run Ubuntu 10.04.4LTS on another machine, and love GNOME 2 with passion. Wasn't anything wrong with it, from the user perspective...

P.P.P.S. Time to catch up with the trend and change your terminal font to the one like mine in the last image...hehe

[551262]

Here you go, release 2 with all of the previous .txts with the Movies and Add-on Movies directories.

[vv221]

Thank you!
Now I've no excuse to not start working on it!

Sadly I won't be able to test it once it's done…
Are you going to volunteer for that? (you don't need to understand French, if the game doesn't crash after applying the translation archive and everything is in a strange language, it means it worked )

Won't force you anyway, if you don't have the time or the motivation, I can understand it.

[551262]

Sure. I suppose I can figure something out, as I will be making extensive use of the machine in awhile to hurry up and finish a large Mac write up.

[vv221]

551262, you rocks!!

I'm going to work on it starting tonight, and I should be able to post something here in a couple days.
But I don't want to rush you, you should take all the time you want before testing it and reporting crashes and bugs…

Because I'm not modifying binary files in any way, there should be about zero risk of anything other than game interface messed up or game not launching.
Your OS will be safe, whatever I could do wrong.

Once again: Thank you for your help!

[551262]

Yeah. No big.

I don't check in here very often but if all else just pop me a PM and it'll show up in my email inbox and I should respond within a day.

[Buster's Uncle]

You DO rock, you know.

[vv221]

Thank you BUncle, but here is my confession: I'm mostly doing this for my own pleasure, and if it pleases other people it is a side effect

[Buster's Uncle]

That's exactly what I've been doing for years, except luring in more friends to talk to through pleasing and serving is the goal, not the side-effect.

[551262]

Today's Special: Nerdy Dish.

Have a look.

[vv221]

I guess you have to be a techy Mac user to understand what's going here…
There must be more in your screenshot than a partition scheme but I don't see it