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Offline Green1

Re: Dr Who
« Reply #270 on: October 05, 2015, 08:54:37 PM »
Anywhere is good. I do not think there are any achievement unlocks for watching whole things through.

If going classic, avoid 6th Doctor episodes.

But, if you start with nuWho, anywhere is good. You could just start somewhere and most the episodes are pretty good.

Mrs. Green starts them with the episode "Blink". Should be on netflix or your friendly Svennsgard folks.

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Re: Dr Who
« Reply #271 on: October 05, 2015, 08:59:16 PM »
-Keep in mind that the Weeping Angels are boring and lame and nothing they've been in was any good, and Mrs. Green is wrong and nothing but.  She is far from alone in this...

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Re: Dr Who
« Reply #272 on: October 05, 2015, 09:00:41 PM »
When you were 12, with the Tom Baker Doctor...
I was born during his doctorship. Doctorhood? (Doctorwho'd??)

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Re: Dr Who
« Reply #273 on: October 05, 2015, 09:09:47 PM »
Tom Baker is pretty much considered "the best Doctor" of classic by many people. Some of those old stories do drag a bit, though.

From my experience for Classic:

1st Doctor: Very dated and A Lot of missing episodes.
2nd Doctor: MOST episodes missing, but very good acting for early TV shows.
3rd Doctor: Don't like it. Very dated 70s vibe.
4th Doctor: THE DOCTOR for many, but episodes drawn out.
5th Doctor: Mr. Celery lapel dude has some great moments, but Mary Sue companions get annoying.
6th Doctor: Has moments, but watching Peri is like listening to fingernails on a chalk board and #6 is a huge prick and horrible writing.
7th Doctor: Early episodes are too silly AND Peri issues. Later episodes were good but VERY LOW production values.

8th Doctor: All you have is a failed TV movie attempt. Maybe audio plays. A non-doctor.


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Re: Dr Who
« Reply #274 on: October 05, 2015, 09:15:14 PM »
What I've seen of the first season of the show w/ Hartnell was astonishingly good, given the historical context, the budget and that it was a children's show...

Offline Valka

Re: Dr Who
« Reply #275 on: October 05, 2015, 09:18:46 PM »
When you were 12, with the Tom Baker Doctor...
I was born during his doctorship. Doctorhood? (Doctorwho'd??)

His era. Whovians (Doctor Who fans) usually refer to the Fourth Doctor seasons as the "Tom Baker era" or the "Fourth Doctor era" (or fill in the other actors' names/numbers as applicable).

If you start with the Fourth Doctor, start from the beginning, with Robot. That's his regeneration story, when Tom Baker takes over from Jon Pertwee.

But it would be more fun, I'd think, to start with the First Doctor (William Hartnell) and work your way forward. It'd take awhile to get to the nuWho stuff (anything from 2005 onward), but the Classic era is best, anyway. ;)

Tom Baker is pretty much considered "the best Doctor" of classic by many people. Some of those old stories do drag a bit, though.

From my experience for Classic:

1st Doctor: Very dated and A Lot of missing episodes.
2nd Doctor: MOST episodes missing, but very good acting for early TV shows.
3rd Doctor: Don't like it. Very dated 70s vibe.
4th Doctor: THE DOCTOR for many, but episodes drawn out.
5th Doctor: Mr. Celery lapel dude has some great moments, but Mary Sue companions get annoying.
6th Doctor: Has moments, but watching Peri is like listening to fingernails on a chalk board and #6 is a huge prick and horrible writing.
7th Doctor: Early episodes are too silly AND Peri issues. Later episodes were good but VERY LOW production values.

8th Doctor: All you have is a failed TV movie attempt. Maybe audio plays. A non-doctor.

 :mad: Thou shalt NOT diss the Eighth Doctor! Paul McGann was perfect for the role, and damn well should have gotten his own TV era of stories.

BTW, what does Peri have to do with the Seventh Doctor? They were never together. You might mean Ace...?

What I've seen of the first season of the show w/ Hartnell was astonishingly good, given the historical context, the budget and that it was a children's show...

Some of his stories are considered among the best, even 52 years later. The historicals - The Aztecs and The Romans, in particular.

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Re: Dr Who
« Reply #276 on: October 05, 2015, 09:26:10 PM »
I was shocked when I finally saw some of that stuff.  -Not so much that it was actually good as a perception of shockingly low levels of "screw it; no one will know the difference" at any level of the production.  Like, I'm aware that the Beebe has stupid-on-purpose shows, mostly sitcoms, going way back - but it looked like everyone on Who right there from the beginning, was trying to make quality TV...

Offline Green1

Re: Dr Who
« Reply #277 on: October 05, 2015, 09:33:46 PM »
Valka, you are correct about Peri. It was not her but her evil twin in obnoxiousness, Mel!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y2Vqyo5c1M

Offline Valka

Re: Dr Who
« Reply #278 on: October 05, 2015, 09:39:51 PM »
@Green1: Yep, Mel is consistently one of the most hated companions. She was on the bottom of my list until Ace and Clara came along. But none of them are among those I find likable.

@BUncle: This is why I was so annoyed at the Fifth Doctor story where they said that the Mayan civilization was thousands of years old, from South America. Any elementary history text about Mexico/Central America would have told them that wasn't true.

Offline ColdWizard

Re: Dr Who
« Reply #279 on: October 05, 2015, 10:18:37 PM »

@BUncle: This is why I was so annoyed at the Fifth Doctor story where they said that the Mayan civilization was thousands of years old, from South America. Any elementary history text about Mexico/Central America would have told them that wasn't true.

What? Sounds like a reason to not watch any of it. Though presumably that's not representative of the "quality" of the show overall...

Offline Valka

Re: Dr Who
« Reply #280 on: October 05, 2015, 10:40:21 PM »
I should say that this wasn't typical. For some reason this mistake got past someone who should have caught it.

They weren't sloppy like that with the rest of it.

Offline Green1

Re: Dr Who
« Reply #281 on: October 06, 2015, 08:17:12 AM »
@Valka: Ace was actually tolerable and interesting. Curse of the Fenric did her great justice. I would put her up in the top 10 companions. But, each his own.

@Coldwizard: Just go to netflix if you have it and pick a random nuWho episode. Doctors 9,10 and 11 are pretty good. Some would argue 11 is the best doctor.

Offline Valka

Re: Dr Who
« Reply #282 on: October 06, 2015, 01:32:26 PM »
There were maybe 40-50% of the Ninth Doctor stories I liked (Eccleston). In general I liked the Tenth Doctor (Tennant). I couldn't stand the Eleventh Doctor (Smith). Any era that needs a flowchart to follow it, not to mention repeated utterances of "I lied" (which is just the producer's way of saying 'hey, I can retcon anything I want and just say it's true because the previous continuity was a lie') is not going to endear me to that era.


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Re: Dr Who
« Reply #283 on: October 11, 2015, 04:12:39 PM »
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Re: Dr Who
« Reply #284 on: October 11, 2015, 05:03:37 PM »
Hmm.

Didn't suck.

 

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