Valjiir

[Buster's Uncle]

Oh, I TOTALLY grok the whole trouble-with-breaking-the-ice thing, even if it doesn't show online.

One advantage of doing the forum thing here, is that I'll look out for you, so no trolling is gonna happen for long.  For now, just hyperlink in all the forum sigs you can (Cher, if I wasn't clear before, at a lot of forums, a sig change is retroactive for every post you've ever made there, so no pressure to make new posts just for that) to make the Valjiir site more visible, not least on Google - and a notice there to direct fans to chat here.  You can worry about whether to tackle more aggressive measures later.  As I mentioned last night -before I got two "shy" responses- you really want to delegate all the work you can to the fan community as it materializes, anyway.  I was thinking more in terms of many hands lightening the work, but the shy thing is a good reason to try that, too, definitely.  It might not take much at all to get the ball rolling.  Given a few active fans, the Facebook Valjiir page and other forms of outreach might happen without you having to lift a finger.

It's worked really well for me, and that's with fans of an old game we all like, not fans of me - that would certainly have made it easier.


Do feel free to poke around this subforum -there's a general Star Trek thread on the first page with this-and-that that ought to prove of interest, and read/comment wherever and whenever as the spirit moves you.  Our rules really amount to just "act like an adult".  Enjoy.

[Buster's Uncle]

-Also, the above is by me, because I know the first two real ST novels, and I am teh funny.  I will allow the posting of lols and attaboys, though I am also teh modest.

[Valjiir1]

...I just googled Valjiir, and found out that this thread is the second hit    My best guess is that it's because every Mylochka post says Valijiir in her sig, where I told her to link the site.  I believe you guys are active places like Trek BBS - if you have always had sigs, and you added Valjiir links to them, and if it works there and other places you post the way it does on the vBulletin and SMF forum software I'm familiar with --- I've been building this here Alpha Centauri forum for two years and twenty days, focused on a single game from 1997 without a lot of aggressive recruiting, and we do really well, considering that and the lethargic depressed spells I get; the single most helpful thing I ever did was siglink at my last forum.  That was 36,000 copies of AC2's URL for Google to find at one stroke.  We do okay on the search engines.

A Valjiir FaceBook page - you need not rupture yourself on that one, but post some pictures and links to existing content on the site, and post links every time there's any new content.  If you get FB comments, the more time you're willing to put into replying, the more the page will grow and serve as a promotional device, and maybe a fan community nexus of its own.  FaceBook is FaceBook, and there's a billion possible eyes to draw your way.  FaceBook has some cross-promotional buttons and tools, as my co-owner installed here, and I cannot recommend using; I think they slow down pageloads, and make it entirely too easy for Big FaceBook Brother to track me, which it totally does.

I'll consider it, but I really don't like Facebook.

You already have a Valjiir YouTube account, and I assume everything's linked back to the Valjiir site.  All of that the traffic will bear, though I assume you already know, as an adult, not to ever read YouTube comments at all.

Dave explained what "linked back' means, and I don't know if that's at the YouTube account.  I'll ask him to help me figure that out.

You've got a lot of content, a lot of it art, which is ideal to spread around casually as promotional material.  Some places, according to your judgement, you may want some sort of "Sexy Star Trek fun" tag to warn of the NSFW aspects.  -Link back to the site everywhere, shamelessly.-

I don't go to many places on the internet, but I'll try to keep that in mind.

Eventually, it may be worth it to you to dig up the old mailing lists and do a mass postcarding with some URLs to see who's still at the old address, alive and on the internet - of course skipping all the people you can just email.

I don't have access to those.  After the falling-out with my original co-author, more than 25 years ago, my former editor decided, in the interest of "not taking sides" to have nothing more to do with anything related to Valjiir. So that's a no-go.
 

If it starts attracting people, do all you can to encourage fans to pitch in on getting the word out and getting fan community stuff done.  You are Queen Valjiir, and your job should be to make Valjiir and rally the troops, who do all the promotional/community-building work you can possibly manage to delegate.  You can do this.  A modest effort should yield tangible results; more time/effort should do more, though the elementary bits tend to give more bang for your time buck.

  Thanks for the Queen Valjiir thing .  As I said, I don't do much internetting (if that's a word) and I have like zero 'real world' friends (hell, aside from Dave, even my family doesn't go to the Valjiir site) so.... *shrug*  But I'll see what I can do,

[ninja'd]

I will hop right over to TrekBBS and add the link to my sig.

See?  Valka is a fan who misses the old gang and took initiative; imagine if you had 15 here and encouraged them?
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[Valjiir1]

We have a fiction forum here, BTW - I would object to it being drowned with Valjiir stories, but I'd love to have some...  -Link back to the site, of course.

Any suggestions as to which stories?

[Buster's Uncle]

Hmm.  Strictly as far as the pre-existing membership here goes, guy gamers would usually respond better to adventure than sexy fun, so the more adventure-y stories.  Sis's baby doomsday story, for example.


The YouTube video I looked at did have a link to the site in the description - there's a way to have it pop up in the vid, too, but I haven't the foggiest about how to do that.  Good idea, though.

I have no use for FaceBook either, (or Twitter or anything like that - the popularity of that kind of site is a complete mystery to me) but - a billion eyes, and one of those places -YouTube, too- Google-Bing-etc. love and seem to rank a hit from higher.  I just talked Mylochka into doing the FB Valjiir page when she's feeling better -she does FB- so forget that one.

[Valjiir1]

To do the siglink here at AC2:  Click on your username to go to your profile.  Click on "Forum Profile", the second entry under "Modify Profile", near the top in the left sidebar.  Add something like VALJIIR: Sexy Star Trek fun to your sig line.  (Hit quote to see the code for how I did that, and you can simply copy/paste that hyperlink line into your sig with the display text altered as you please.

The exact format for hyperlinking sigs at other forums will differ according to what forum software they use, but shouldn't by much, and I believe you are married to someone who computes for a living - I am a competent user, not at all teh haxxor, and this is easy stuff to master, believe me, and A Thing Worth Doing.  -Of course Valka can tell you the precise hyperlink code for Trek BBS.


The easiest and most time/effort-rewarding single thing you can do to direct fans here is to announce prominently on your site:

Sign up to chat with us about Valjiir (and anything else original Star Trek) here!

And if you drop a line to anyone, anyone you're comfortable pinging and likely to know how to contact anyone else and ask them to do same and ask them to do same, a chain-reaction could happen.  Your fans miss the old days, and want to hear for you, after all.  -But definitely the prominent announcement' top of the main page for maximum effect. 


P.S. "sigline" is where you have "Screw destiny. But give it flowers first or it feels used." (to which I'd quibble "Dinner and a movie first; a call and flowers the next day).

Ok, I did what I could. Thanks. (see sigline, below  )

[Valjiir1]

-Also, the above is by me, because I know the first two real ST novels, and I am teh funny.  I will allow the posting of lols and attaboys, though I am also teh modest.

*snort, snicker, giggle chuckle guffaw!*  And even though I didn't know the names of the first ST novels, it's funny anyway.  Go you!

[Valka]

Hiya everyone. This is the "Dave" y'all been talking about. I finally got connected in.

Greetings - you're the kind person who told me about valjiir.us on TrekBBS!  My name there is Timewalker.

The BBCode is the same for most forums when it comes to posting links.

This is what my current sig looks like there (clicking on the words "Valjiir Continuum" takes the person directly to your website):

[Buster's Uncle]

Ok, I did what I could. Thanks. (see sigline, below  )
VALJIIR: Sexy Star Trek fun and drama

That's 62 more copies of the URL on the internet for Google to find, all by itself.

[Buster's Uncle]

The BBCode is the same for most forums when it comes to posting links.

In which case, the code would go [ URL=http://"http://www.valjiir.us/valjiir.html"]VALJIIR: Sexy  Star Trek fun and drama[/URL] (with the space between the first bracket and URL removed). Some places might want <URL="http://www.valjiir.us/valjiir.html">VALJIIR: Sexy  Star Trek fun and drama</URL> , I think.


And again, I DO get the shy - I'm a lonely person who does all his socializing here.  Teh innerwebz can be rough, and I have a few war stories -nasty ones- but I'm determined to have this be a safe place fo' my nerdz.

[FoldInTheWolf]

Greetings - you're the kind person who told me about valjiir.us on TrekBBS!  My name there is Timewalker.

Good to re-meet you!

If I remember right, I did a Google to see if I could find anyone on the Interwebs who was looking for Valjiir, and I found your question on that forum. I then registered for long enough to tell you about the site

[Buster's Uncle]

-Just don't ask me to straighten out The Galleo Seven now that we know what quasars are.

On reflection, I take that back.  A quasar is a mega black hole at the center of a galaxy that's consuming a lot of matter -which gets hot and bright from friction- and the pressure pushes a jet out at the poles, presumably along magnetic field lines.  There is indeed a (not feeding as of about 30,000 years ago) huge black hole at the center of the Milky Way, but they clearly weren't at the center of the galaxy and what they called a "quasar" in that episode can't have been one.  You don't want to be within a few thousand light years of a million-solar-mass black hole that's feeding, and you wouldn't just stumble over one by accident, because they're extremely bright.  That is the problem with making sense of it, though I note that they changed the special effect from something nebulous to looking like a green feeding black hole in  the remastered version, accretion disk, jets and all.

Black holes aren't incredibly rare, and the first one discovered, Cygnus X-1, was detected by the x-rays it gave off from syphoning gas off a close binary star companion.

Well, I posted an article yesterday about black holes: http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=7391.0  In it, astrophysicists refer to much smaller than galactic center-scale feeding black holes as "mini quasars".  The difference is only a matter of scale.  If you allow that the thing in The Galleo Seven was a regular roughly solar-mass feeding black hole, perhaps one that was feeding on a larger scale than previously examined up close, with a jet pointing away from any Federation worlds and the "planetoid" orbiting a binary companion - the inhabitable planetoid is quite unlikely, but possible, and assuming (plausably) that everyone just dropped the "mini" and it makes enough sense for Star Trek.  (The natives probably aren't native, though, and might not have anything like a million years to move to a planet in a stable system.  No telling what the Preservers were up to there.)

[Valjiir1]

-Just don't ask me to straighten out The Galleo Seven now that we know what quasars are.

On reflection, I take that back.  A quasar is a mega black hole at the center of a galaxy that's consuming a lot of matter -which gets hot and bright from friction- and the pressure pushes a jet out at the poles, presumably along magnetic field lines.  There is indeed a (not feeding as of about 30,000 years ago) huge black hole at the center of the Milky Way, but they clearly weren't at the center of the galaxy and what they called a "quasar" in that episode can't have been one.  You don't want to be within a few thousand light years of a million-solar-mass black hole that's feeding, and you wouldn't just stumble over one by accident, because they're extremely bright.  That is the problem with making sense of it, though I note that they changed the special effect from something nebulous to looking like a green feeding black hole in  the remastered version, accretion disk, jets and all.

Black holes aren't incredibly rare, and the first one discovered, Cygnus X-1, was detected by the x-rays it gave off from syphoning gas off a close binary star companion.

Well, I posted an article yesterday about black holes: http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=7391.0  In it, astrophysicists refer to much smaller than galactic center-scale feeding black holes as "mini quasars".  The difference is only a matter of scale.  If you allow that the thing in The Galleo Seven was a regular roughly solar-mass feeding black hole, perhaps one that was feeding on a larger scale than previously examined up close, with a jet pointing away from any Federation worlds and the "planetoid" orbiting a binary companion - the inhabitable planetoid is quite unlikely, but possible, and assuming (plausably) that everyone just dropped the "mini" and it makes enough sense for Star Trek.  (The natives probably aren't native, though, and might not have anything like a million years to move to a planet in a stable system.  No telling what the Preservers were up to there.)

This is another example of something that seemed implausible (if not plain impossible) during the 1960's, which has proven to be possible through scientific discover years later.  I love the 'science' in science fiction!

[Geo]

Give it another 2-3 decades, and even what you guy's call 'fake trek' might seem plausible.

[Buster's Uncle]

Never.  Science advances a lot faster than people do - and it was never the bad science that we primarily objected to.