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Offline Valka

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #180 on: October 04, 2013, 05:20:27 AM »
Alternate universes.  ;)

Back in the '80s, I was at a convention in Calgary, where someone had placed a flyer for IADR. A woman was there looking at it, and absolutely fuming and OUTRAGED that Spock would marry anyone, let alone his assistant Science Officer!

At a convention in the early 80s, IADR was at (and no, I can't remember which one - blame senioritis *grin* ) I gave Mr. Takei a teal-colored T-shirt with "Don't Call Me Tiny!"  on it.  I got a hug and a kiss for my trouble  :D  Later on, he sought out the IADR table and signed a copy of #17 (which features a picture of Sulu and Jilla) for me.  I was absolutely thrilled.

And yeah, we caught some flak for daring to have marry Spock at all - and most of those wanted him to be paired with Jim. *shrug* Ah, K/S ers....
Well, anyone but T'Pring, right?  ;)

As for K/S... I remember when Alternaties came out... I ordered both issues, and then had to wait in suspense to see if Canada Customs would notice them and forbid them (based on some of the illustrations, which left absolutely nothing to the imagination). The zines made it across the border okay, and then I had to worry about hiding them from my grandmother. She already didn't approve of my getting stuff in the mail from an "underground press" and thought I was just asking for trouble (around that time there was a big to-do with the RCMP reading peoples' mail if anything looked even remotely out of the ordinary).

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Re: Valjiir
« Reply #181 on: October 04, 2013, 05:30:20 AM »
That wasn't that many years since all those mailboxes were blowing up in Quebec, was it?

Offline Valka

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« Reply #182 on: October 04, 2013, 05:41:37 AM »
That was ~15 years before, and it was a domestic terrorist group that was responsible for that.

I'm not sure whether parcels from Minnesota go to Toronto or Winnipeg first, but at least I'm in the other half of the country where that sort of thing is a lot less likely to happen.

Offline Valjiir1

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #183 on: October 04, 2013, 05:43:46 AM »
So, did you like Alternaties?  Anything in particular stand out for you?
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Offline Valka

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #184 on: October 04, 2013, 05:54:23 AM »
Well, naturally the Valjiir story about the Mirror-Sulu is the most memorable. ;) I also recall the story where Spock wasn't able to get back to his wife (T'Marse) when pon farr happened, and the only available person was his daughter - that one was disturbing, but then it is a story involving incest.

It's been years since I read Alternaties. Thankfully I still have them, along with IADR - they've come with me for several moves, and I'm currently trying to get all my zines unpacked and organized.

Once upon a time they all used to fit on one shelf...

Offline Mylochka

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #185 on: October 04, 2013, 04:11:29 PM »
Still not feeling good and not making as much progress as I'd like to, but did work a little on Bela Oxmyx's face yesterday. Ran into a big problem, though.  I don't have a hair model that will work for him. Will have to do a new texture for one of my old hair models that incorporates his combination of widow's peak and receding hairline.

So, I know it's hard to judge a likeness until the hair and costume are right, but here's Bela so far.

Oh, and by the way, the guy playing him was acting his striped socks off in this episode.  When I went to Trekcore (http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/index.php) to get a screenshot to use as reference, this was as close as I could get to a "resting face" shot of him.  In every frame he's in, this guy is emoting like a champ... well, like a boss, as the kids would say...

Offline Mylochka

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #186 on: October 04, 2013, 04:16:40 PM »
What was Alternaties?  I've never heard of it. Is the Valjiir story from it on the site?

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Re: Valjiir
« Reply #187 on: October 04, 2013, 04:19:40 PM »


That pretty much nails the features - but the cheeks and jaw are too thin.  Is a trace of jowls doable in Poser?

Offline Mylochka

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #188 on: October 04, 2013, 04:25:46 PM »
Yeah... I think so.  I've got to add a morph to the neck to do it.... Hold on, be right back...

Offline Mylochka

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #189 on: October 04, 2013, 04:35:55 PM »
here's the neck shorter and a little more jowl-y...

Offline Valjiir1

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #190 on: October 04, 2013, 04:46:38 PM »
This one looks good to me, sweets.

And Alternaties was a two-issue XXX-rated 'zine edited by yours truly.  I have copies if you'd like to see them.  And yes, Changeling is in "Stories: Alternates" on the site.
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Offline Mylochka

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #191 on: October 06, 2013, 06:35:53 PM »
Still struggling with Bela Oxmyx's hair.  I may just go ahead and render some scenes with out him so I can go ahead and get started.

I'm making some posters for Jarlwolf and while I was searching for inspiration, I started playing around with some of the .png files I'd generated for "Old Fashioned Man."  If I would have done renders specifically for this poster instead of just using "scraps," it probably would be much nicer, but here's what I came up with...

Offline Geo

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #192 on: October 06, 2013, 07:36:50 PM »
..., but here's what I came up with...

A bit crowded, but I think it looks good.  :)

Offline Mylochka

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #193 on: October 06, 2013, 07:56:12 PM »
Thanks! :D

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Re: Valjiir
« Reply #194 on: October 06, 2013, 07:58:42 PM »
You should do a 'Valjiir recruiting poster'.   Spock and Sulu side by side in heroic poses, looking off into the starscaped distance...

...And, it being Valjiir, they're wearing no pants.  -Kilkakon would love that part.

 

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