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Offline Valka

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #150 on: September 29, 2013, 06:24:45 PM »
It's a feather, not a leaf.

Offline JarlWolf

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #151 on: September 30, 2013, 01:01:29 AM »
I think it's because of the greenish/yellow tinge.


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Offline Geo

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #152 on: September 30, 2013, 11:27:35 AM »
Especially since its Fall seasln now.

Offline Valjiir1

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #153 on: October 02, 2013, 04:17:56 PM »
I wonder how she will react when you tell her, "Hey, an old, grizzled ex-soviet military man likes your stories."

 ;lol

Thought amused me. I doubt its really relevant though, t'was a fun read.

She is quite pleased and flattered, thank you! Hello, all, this is Cher, one of the original creators of Valjiir here, and I thank you for visiting the site.
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Offline Valjiir1

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #154 on: October 02, 2013, 04:43:48 PM »
Just a comment about the text - and this is something that occurred to me the first time I read the story - greaves are worn on the legs, not the arms. Medieval and classical-era fighters wore bracers on their arms, and the two are not interchangeable.

This is an OOPS! on my part.  I was on a writing tear and couldn't think of the proper word so I put a place-holder in - and then forgot to go back and change it.  Shame on me.  Thanks for catching it so I can go back now and change it.
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Re: Valjiir
« Reply #155 on: October 02, 2013, 07:23:16 PM »
So Cher - any thoughts/preferences about usergroup/custom title?  You can have one or both...

Offline Valka

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #156 on: October 02, 2013, 07:41:27 PM »
Just a comment about the text - and this is something that occurred to me the first time I read the story - greaves are worn on the legs, not the arms. Medieval and classical-era fighters wore bracers on their arms, and the two are not interchangeable.

This is an OOPS! on my part.  I was on a writing tear and couldn't think of the proper word so I put a place-holder in - and then forgot to go back and change it.  Shame on me.  Thanks for catching it so I can go back now and change it.
No problem. :)

It's just that since I spent over a decade in the Society for Creative Anachronism and took classical history in college, it's something I noticed.

Offline Valjiir1

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #157 on: October 03, 2013, 01:51:08 AM »
Hey, Dave (my husband) and I were in the SCA - about 40 years ago - so yeah, I DID know better.  Mea culpa.
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Offline Valjiir1

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #158 on: October 03, 2013, 01:54:21 AM »
So Cher - any thoughts/preferences about usergroup/custom title?  You can have one or both...

Sure - like what are they? Remember, I'm something of a Luddite....  Wait, you suggested Valjiir Creator, yeah?  I kinda like that one...  :D
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Offline Valjiir1

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« Reply #159 on: October 03, 2013, 02:04:45 AM »
Who mentioned gay?  I just think it's racially tone-deaf, given the expressed wishes of someone in the position to judge that sort of thing, to break out the kimono.  I'm not confusing the actor with the character, but I think his opinion, as someone ethnically Japanese, that he'd rather Sulu was one of the guys, not all-Japanese, all the time, ought to be respected.  That is all.

Ah, but racially tone-deaf to whom?  The Sulu in my 'verse is VERY proud of his Japanese heritage (not to much the part that's Korean, but.... ;) )  And also, remember Mr. Takei grew up in a time (1940s and early 50s) where Americans were supposed to embrace the melting pot, not celebrate the differences in culture, such as was encouraged when I was growing up (1960s, early 70s).  And I think that my Sulu IS very much 'one of the guys' despite how he chooses to dress when relaxing at home.  If you can show me where this isn't true, I'd be happy to listen.
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Offline Valjiir1

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #160 on: October 03, 2013, 02:08:25 AM »
You should heard me howl when I watched the '09 Abomination, and abominable HaroldSulu made with the katanna...

ABOMINATION????  Them's fightin' words, son!  What exactly made the marvelous reboot an abomination?
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Offline Valka

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #161 on: October 03, 2013, 02:30:17 AM »
You should heard me howl when I watched the '09 Abomination, and abominable HaroldSulu made with the katanna...

ABOMINATION? ???  Them's fightin' words, son!  What exactly made the marvelous reboot an abomination?
Basically, I hate the plot, I hate the actors (they look like models and can't act), I hate the nonsense of Chekov being a child-genius, I just hate the whole thing. And I do my nuTrek arguing at TrekBBS, since I know my opinions aren't shared by a lot of people and the discussion can get rather heated.

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Re: Valjiir
« Reply #162 on: October 03, 2013, 03:00:24 AM »
What she said - and since we're talking Sulu, they especially lost me when Harold/Sulu made with the Katanna.  Perhaps nobody at Bad Robot read To the Stars, but I have, several times.

Who mentioned gay?  I just think it's racially tone-deaf, given the expressed wishes of someone in the position to judge that sort of thing, to break out the kimono.  I'm not confusing the actor with the character, but I think his opinion, as someone ethnically Japanese, that he'd rather Sulu was one of the guys, not all-Japanese, all the time, ought to be respected.  That is all.

Ah, but racially tone-deaf to whom?  The Sulu in my 'verse is VERY proud of his Japanese heritage (not to much the part that's Korean, but.... ;) )  And also, remember Mr. Takei grew up in a time (1940s and early 50s) where Americans were supposed to embrace the melting pot, not celebrate the differences in culture, such as was encouraged when I was growing up (1960s, early 70s).  And I think that my Sulu IS very much 'one of the guys' despite how he chooses to dress when relaxing at home.  If you can show me where this isn't true, I'd be happy to listen.
On your side, there's the simple fact that Sulu, in cannon, gives you a lot of room for creative detail.  All we really know for sure from the show is that he's amiable, patient about taking an endless series of punk navigators in-hand, is so focused when on-duty that I'd venture to say that he's the most reliable man Kirk has on the bridge after Spock, and there's hints that he has a wide range of hobbies/interests and would secretly like to be D'artagnan.

It's not nothing, but hardly the entire measure of a fully-realized human being who must have had parents and a life before Starfleet.  So canonically, you have a lot of freedom there without contradicting anything, and I'm only citing a RL source.  I haven't the foggiest how strongly George would feel about the bathrobe, probably not very, and only guess that he would choose otherwise...  Being whiter than white, myself, I think being careful maters.  No big deal, though.

Offline Valka

Re: Valjiir
« Reply #163 on: October 03, 2013, 05:08:35 AM »
Did they say Sulu's first name is HAROLD???

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Re: Valjiir
« Reply #164 on: October 03, 2013, 05:23:23 AM »
No; he was played by Harold from Harold and Kumar go to Whitecastle.

 

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