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Offline BlaneckW

Re: Star Wars VII-IX, what do you think?
« Reply #105 on: November 28, 2014, 05:50:33 PM »
It's probably on Tatooine as an example of "drawing parallels".  Lucas guy gets his rocks off that way.  He'd rather make one movie sound like another as some kind of example of "art" than make any kind of story you can even remember.  I would hope Abrams doesn't go as overboard with it.  It happened in the Hobbit movie too.  It's stupid.  I'd much rather they make films that can stand on their own, and I can't believe the common people are so stupid as to appreciate the amount of it they're putting into films these days.

And back to imagination, I think the first prequel was pretty imaginitive, it's just dry as hell and doesn't have a story I could try put together to mention.

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Re: Star Wars VII-IX, what do you think?
« Reply #106 on: November 28, 2014, 06:02:23 PM »
Well, having your older Luke with a beard and a robe, going all Ben, is almost mandatory, and in that context, wandering around the wilds of Tatooine fits, too.  The Star Wars movies at their best weren't all that much about things like characterization and relationships - they were -and this was by deliberate design and the nature of the thing, Star Wars being based in Lucas' love of the old Flash Gordon serials- fast-paced space opera action flicks that didn't give you a lot of time to think as they charged ahead full-bore.  A lot of what was wrong with the sequels was Lucas taking it so seriously - the pacing bogged down when they dwelled on character bits.

Again, this should tend to play to what little Jar Jar Abrams does well, for the same reasons he was all wrong for Star Trek.  I give it a maybe 50% chance that this will actually be sorta good.  Maybe.  Not much chance he's going to make the mistake of a slow-paced (pseudo) thoughtful Star Wars installment.

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« Reply #107 on: November 28, 2014, 06:37:48 PM »
My impression of the trailer:  Whole lot of eyerolling followed by holy cow, does the Falcon look good.  Too good.  Wait how far in the future is this and they're STILL using X Wings, which were outdated in episode IV (possibly retconned), and in the process of being replaced by B wings by episode VI (again, possibly retconned).  And the Falcon has always been a piece of junk, not all shiny/pretty. 


Worst moment: the ludicrous claymore lightsaber.

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Re: Star Wars VII-IX, what do you think?
« Reply #108 on: November 28, 2014, 06:43:15 PM »
Looks dangerous to the wielder, don't it?

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« Reply #109 on: November 28, 2014, 06:44:03 PM »
wandering around the wilds of Tatooine fits, too.
Doesn't anyone have more purpose in life than to wander around in the desert?  The Moses/Jesus thing gets old.  Moses and the Jews weren't holed up in the wastes by choice.

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Re: Star Wars VII-IX, what do you think?
« Reply #110 on: November 28, 2014, 06:50:55 PM »
Wellll - it was kinda set up in Phantom Menace, with a young Obiwan looking rather like Luke with even stupider hair - a sense of symmetry sorta demands bringing it full circle when you move into the future again.  If Lucas was still doing it, of course he'd dwell on it to a sickening and dull degree, but lingering on anything isn't Jar Jar's way - although he may work in a Sydney Bristow cameo...

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« Reply #111 on: November 28, 2014, 06:57:15 PM »
I didn't read in the wiki that Luke retired to the desert (at least in the comic), and it wouldn't make any sense for him to.  Obiwan would (I suppose) be there out of exile.  But with the Empire on the backburner, Luke would be in an involved role.  If nothing else it would be at odds with his responsibilities as a spiritual leader (high Jedi).

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« Reply #112 on: November 28, 2014, 06:59:12 PM »
Looks dangerous to the wielder, don't it?

looks completely unusable with no point to the modification. 

International trailer looks better.  more shiny boom, less thinking is DEFINITELY the way they need to play this.

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« Reply #113 on: November 28, 2014, 07:01:57 PM »
I didn't read in the wiki that Luke retired to the desert (at least in the comic), and it wouldn't make any sense for him to.  Obiwan would (I suppose) be there out of exile.  But with the Empire on the backburner, Lucas would be in an involved role.  If nothing else it would be at odds with his responsibilities as a spiritual leader (high Jedi).

Guessing they have to go back for a mcguffin, not because Luke is sequestered there. 

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Re: Star Wars VII-IX, what do you think?
« Reply #114 on: November 28, 2014, 07:14:41 PM »
As I keep saying - that would play exactly to Jar Jar's demonstrated storytelling instincts.  Get in, boom boom, get out, nobody gets hurt - (except the ones who got blown up).

These are going to have the huge advantage over the prequels that we don't go in knowing how it will wrap up - something that Lucas handled exactly wrong, constantly foreshadowing Darth Skywalker's heel turn that we already knew was going to happen.  That's boring.  The way he should have played it was constantly confounding our expectations for the future Vader - all heroism and even charisma, building the tragedy of his going bad by making us like him up until the end.  We were told Annikin was a hero - not shown enough to make it stick.  You don't remember the action sequences when you think of Annikin, so much as you think of red eyes and Hayden Christensen's sulky-face.

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Re: Star Wars VII-IX, what do you think?
« Reply #115 on: November 28, 2014, 07:17:29 PM »
I didn't read in the wiki that Luke retired to the desert (at least in the comic), and it wouldn't make any sense for him to.  Obiwan would (I suppose) be there out of exile.  But with the Empire on the backburner, Luke would be in an involved role.  If nothing else it would be at odds with his responsibilities as a spiritual leader (high Jedi).
Luke establishes the Academy on Tatooine, for all we know.

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« Reply #116 on: November 28, 2014, 07:26:45 PM »
Luke establishes the Academy on Tatooine, for all we know.
Nice try.  Tatooine is a backwater. 

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Re: Star Wars VII-IX, what do you think?
« Reply #117 on: November 28, 2014, 07:36:27 PM »
Yes.

So?

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Re: Star Wars VII-IX, what do you think?
« Reply #119 on: November 28, 2014, 08:30:49 PM »
Why do you assume a dusty, dangerous, out-of-the-way hellhole is a bad place to train Jedi?

 

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