Star Wars VII-IX, what do you think?

[Buster's Uncle]

I would love to, if I'd seen it.

Looks like another Paul failure, to me, from the pics and clips I have seen - the miniseries came closest.

[Buster's Uncle]

Buster, incidentally, tells me Luke said the same thing I've been saying in one of these new Star Wars; the Jedi are where new Sith outbreaks always originate, and that's a real. bad. problem with the Jedi existing.

-So what're you gonna do?  There'll still be force sensitives>some super-powered sociopaths even w/o Jedis and jedi lore around...

[Elok]

I think the alternatives to that are "Sith perpetuate themselves independently in spite of opposition from the Jedi and a persistent treacherous streak" or "random people with no Force training keep spontaneously learning how to use the Force and being evil."  The second is arguably more plausible depending how powerful or intuitive your average rando force-sensitive is supposed to be--Luke didn't notice his own powers until Obi-Wan taught him, and even then he showed modest skill at first, and he's got a very force-sensitive family and such.  Even so, it's a bit like complaining "most nuclear scientists working for rogue regimes were taught by respectable nuclear scientists."  Would you expect otherwise, and if so is that a reason to try and shut down the whole tradition of nuclear science?

Admittedly, the Jedi sure do seem useless outside the OT, but that's because everything outside the OT is poorly written junk.

(Re: Dune, it's worth picking up your library's copy like I did; it's about as good as a Dune movie could get given the challenges inherent in the source material)

[Buster's Uncle]

Yes; as I tried to say: "There'll still be force sensitives>some super-powered sociopaths".  You're unlikely to be able to suppress the knowledge for long, and then you're soon back with Sith running around and maybe no Jedi to oppose.

YET - read some history of the galaxy articles on Wookipedia, and good luck counting how many times the Sith have been wiped out completely and then a Jedi went bad, rinse and repeat.  It's quite a pickle...

[Elok]

Answer depends on which parts of canon you are willing to acknowledge as valid, I guess.

[Buster's Uncle]

Well, I don't drink the Lucasfilm Kool-Aid about what's canon, but I'll go with the old canon as long as it hasn't been contradicted in a movie and has nothing to do with Bobba Fett surviving the sarlac...

[Elok]

A moon really fell on Chewbacca?

[Buster's Uncle]

Okay, yeah, that never happened.

[Elok]

I realized after posting that that was actually contradicted by a movie, but if I were Chewie I would choose moon-death over appearing in Episode 8 or (reputedly) 9.  It's just the more honorable way to go.

[Buster's Uncle]

I think that happened a lot later than those movies, so I'm not sure it's contradicted.

[Elok]

Too lazy to look it up, but I'm pretty sure Vector Prime was published in the early aughts and takes place fifteen or so years after ROTJ, so either way you mean it, it comes before the sequels.

[Buster's Uncle]

I had a vague impression it was 50 or so years on...

[Elok]

I (sigh) looked it up, and it was published in '99 and takes place about twenty years after ROTJ.  I am not going to look up how many years officially pass before TFA, but Ben Solo looks at least twenty years old there.

[Buster's Uncle]

Okay, agreed.

There's nothing much in canon about Wookie lifespans, is there?

[Elok]

Well, per the technically-canon prequels Chewbacca was a grown adult shortly before Luke was born, and showed no signs of significant aging that I can see in the interim.  Didn't look much older in Ep 7 either, and I once saw a making-of-Star-Wars documentary where Harrison Ford said that Chewie was supposed to be 200 years old (this doc was made right after ANH; it had Carrie Fisher speculating about what might be in the sequels).  Make of that what you will.

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