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Plutocrats
« on: November 04, 2012, 07:40:42 PM »
I've not brought up US politics because I find them revoltingly stupid.  Today's Doonesbury articulates said idiocy perfectly.
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2012, 07:21:29 AM »
"The capitalists will sell us the punishment spheres in which we will strap them."
;domai; Foreman Domai after the capture of Nwabudike Morgan

In all seriousness, as a libertarian socialist, US politics offers few choices I'm happy with.  Free Drones for the win.
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2012, 01:03:57 PM »
The bosses sell us the punishment spheres into with we strap ourselves, thanking them.  This country has gone insane.

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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2012, 05:59:07 PM »
And I want to add this thought:  I won't vote for a Republican for so much as dog catcher, whatever his/her merits, unless said worthy denounces the excesses of the Bush occupation.  I'm not talking about competence -beyond some obvious exceptions, Bush/Cheney surrounded themselves with accomplished professionals and did exactly what they meant to do, as far as I can tell- I'm talking about failed, and indeed evil policies.  Apologize for the fascism and the mass murder, apologize long and loud and convincingly, or I will never stop implacably opposing you to my dying breath.  You Republicans ought to be ashamed of not even being ashamed.  I can't believe you're getting away with it at all

People are idiots.

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 09:04:34 PM »
...The previous does not apply to Ron Paul, BTW.  He's wrong more often than he's right, but he also was ahead of almost every Democrat in either house of Congress in having the sense, integrity and guts to openly and actively oppose the fascists while they killed and put people -some of them citizens- in camps.  He's okay in my book. 

-I wouldn't tend to vote for him for anything, mind you, but not because he's a registered Republican.

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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2012, 09:37:48 PM »
The bosses sell us the punishment spheres into with we strap ourselves, thanking them.  This country has gone insane.

Well again, as they say, Americans view themselves as temporarily embarrassed capitalists and not struggling workers. It's the myth of capitalist meritocracy.
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Re: Plutocrats
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2012, 09:39:47 PM »
Tru dat.

Where you from, Comrade?

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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2012, 09:53:42 PM »
Tru dat.

Where you from, Comrade?

Arizona. Tucson, specifically.
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Re: Plutocrats
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2012, 10:13:33 PM »
Well that explains that. :D

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Re: Plutocrats
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2012, 11:44:11 PM »
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My plea to the undecideds: Stay home!
Yahoo! News – 1 hr 30 mins ago...

By Jeff Greenfield


As the momentous day approaches, with epochal consequences for an anxiously awaiting world, I take pen in hand—make that apply fingertips to keypad—to renew a traditional plea I first made more than 30 years ago. It’s a plea I’ve made in print, on the air, and now through the miracle of digital technology. But its message never changes.

It’s a plea directed to those of you who are still uncertain about for whom you will vote. And it’s as simple as it is heartfelt: Stay home.

The candidates have been at this for years; both President Obama and Mitt Romney began running for the presidency six years ago. They’ve made speeches, answered (or evaded) questions and raised billions to persuade you of their worth—or the other guy’s worthlessness.

The media have been covering their every move and word, even when the candidates thought they weren’t. (Can you say: “Cling to their religion and guns?” “Forty-seven percent?”) The coverage has been slanted, scrupulously fair, superficial, in-depth, misleading, dead-on. With a flick of a page or the click of a mouse, you have been able to find out every conceivable piece of information you might want on their backgrounds, families, values, experience, positions taken, positions abandoned, promises made, promises broken, and what music they have on their iPods.

And after all this time, you’re still trying to make up your minds. The overwhelmingly likely reason is this: you have the reasoning power of a baked potato.

Okay, I grant you that you may be one of the small minority of concerned involved citizens who are genuinely torn, who have not yet evaluated the relative worth of the health care reform notions, or the vagaries of the tax proposals, or the respective approaches to the increasing power of the renminbi.

But I wouldn’t bet a nickel on it.

The odds are, you’ve just been too busy obsessing about the misfortunes of the Kardashians, or the quality of your ringtone, to spend any time thinking about who the better president might be.

Well, that’s your right. Unlike the Australians, we don’t compel people to vote, and it would likely be a First Amendment violation if we tried. A refusal to vote can be seen as a statement that the electoral system is rigged, or meaningless, or so thoroughly corrupt as to deserve contempt. (“I never vote,” one citizen said long ago. “It only encourages them.”)

And there are other valid reasons for not voting. As a personal matter, I stopped voting more than a decade ago, on the ground that it helped me as an analyst not to think about making a choice in the voting booth.

So it strikes me as a sound, honest statement for a prospective voter to say: “Look, I haven’t given this election a minute’s thought, and it’s just not fair for me to cancel out the vote of someone who actually gives a damn.”

Indeed, it’s not just sound and honest—it’s the ethically responsible thing to do.

Men and women in my lifetime have died fighting for the right to vote: people like James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, Michael Schwerner, who were murdered in Mississippi while registering black voters in 1964, and Viola Liuzzo, murdered by the Ku Klux Klan in 1965 during the Selma Voting Rights March. In these days of early voting, we’ve seen people waiting on line for hours to exercise the franchise. Countless others, who have never had to fight for it, have spent real time either trying to decide how to cast their vote, or donating their time to persuading others.

So if you’re one of those folks who have stayed utterly disengaged through all of this, do the honorable thing: honor those for whom the vote really matters by staying home.

You’ll be doing yourself—and the country—a favor.
http://news.yahoo.com/my-plea-to-the-undecideds--stay-home--05095507.html

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