Fight The System

[Buster's Uncle]

I have a sorry little pistol and a good single-shot shotgun, with a fair stock of amo for both...

[Buster's Uncle]

...And you're up either very early or very late, if you're where I think you are.  I have to go to bed now, much as I hate to leave while there's someone interesting hanging around...

[Green1]

Take it from an older, wiser anarchist. The problem with explosives, things of that nature is badasses with drones and much better equiptment will eventually try to stop you. Let's not forget the mess. Big gun/blowing things up approach is useless unless you are part of some huge army or organization. It causes more harm than good. Landmines last years later killing even innocent kids playing. Molotovs in store windows really do not change people's minds. It just gets folks more pissed.

Better in a "sheet hits the fan" deal is to be invisible. Loud explosions tend to piss people off and get people looking for other people. If no one is looking, you are usually safe. Either that, or if the area is too full of evil assholes, move. Folks escape bad stuff all the time.

A firearm is okay. But, do realize a firearm has disadvantages. Some people it can get in more trouble in some jurisdictions than it can save. Your mind will be more valuable in any bad sitution. Even in chaos situations, there are those who will have authority to do to folks as they will. A gun only helps with the .01% that are actual criminals. Do not listen to propoganda.

In fact, all this doom pr0n out there. Are folks so depressed with life situations they want everything to end? Not going to happen. Even in a collapse, folks will rise to fill the void and things will continue.

Violence is not an answer.

[JarlWolf]

I'm aware, the mines wouldn't be near our settlement anyways. It'd be in a strategic pass or something that leads to us. Mines have a nasty tendency to shift around as well, so its always unpredictable. Horrible inventions, but during horrible times they are to be used against an enemy. My main strategy would be to hole up and fortify. And people will definitely go about trying to raid the countryside for supplies, it's been proven in other system collapses already.

My main strategy overall is deterrence. Have your region infamous and scary, people tend to avoid it.

And BUncle, it's about 9 AM where I am at, and I logged on at about 6.

[Rymdolov]

When I heard "bicycle", I assumed I was talking with fellow anarchists and disobeyed my own rules.

I'm so very, very happy that I don't live in a country where "happy to use a bicycle" is considered extreme. It's an interesting discussion, people, keep it going. I just hope we don't scare anyone away from the forum. Hopefully, most people understand that one of the advantages of forums like this one is that you can discuss and be friendly with someone whose opinions are the exact opposite of your own.

[Buster's Uncle]

Dunno that that's so much the case here, though.  You may not have issues with the bosses, but the rest of us do.

[Rymdolov]

Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm a drone hoping to be a Free Drone some day. Not everyone may be, though. Enjoying reasoned debate is never a problem, anyway. I was just sharing some thoughts.

 

[Buster's Uncle]

Ah.  Turns out we're all at least latent commies.

You're right; I wouldn't want to scare off the Republicans - just because they're wrong and their party went fascist 11 years ago, doesn't mean I don't want to meet them and make friends.  Seriously.

[JarlWolf]

Then again, were all on a forum of men (and women possibly?) that have or still do play Alpha Centauri, a game that has heavy philosophical idea's, with a rather complex game play and rather sci-fi atmosphere. So I doubt anyone here is of a more right wing moral conservative just by that. Add the fact most of us are either students, retiree's or men who have been working for a number of years in our professions, were probably not going to be supportive of an overall capitalist=/=exploitative system that exploits our hard work for profit that we don't get a share of as much as we should.

That and people who actually find this forum or look for it will probably be within the same parameters of what I and others have stated prior, its not like a bunch of Christian fundamentalist charity groups are going to stumble upon our forum and actually join. Or a bunch of capitalist business types that stroll into our forum.

No, they have their own interests elsewhere, which makes sense.

[Buster's Uncle]

Oh, we've got a Christian fundamentalist.  He's pretty much the nicest guy here.  You'll have seen Kilkakon around.

Never heard him talk politics, though.

[JarlWolf]

Hmm. This community is more diverse then I thought. Feels good to have variety.

He's probably the nicest guy around though because he doesn't bother with politics, which is commendable, given how dirty politics gets.

[Buster's Uncle]

Variety is good.  As Robert Heinlein siad, "I never learned from a man who agreed with me."

[Green1]

Variety is good.  As Robert Heinlein siad, "I never learned from a man who agreed with me."

I think the Notebooks of Lazarus Long should be bound in vellum like a Bible. RH is the bomb. Still got to read his very last book.

But yeah, 4x draws from a lot of different backgrounds and beliefs.

[Buster's Uncle]

You mean To Sail Beyond the Sunset?  How appropriate a title for a last novel is that?


RAH was a fringe political crank and a disgusting pervert, and crammed both down our throats increasingly in his old age. 

He really had his moments, though.

[Green1]

You mean To Sail Beyond the Sunset?  How appropriate a title for a last novel is that?


RAH was a fringe political crank and a disgusting pervert, and crammed both down our throats increasingly in his old age. 

He really had his moments, though.

Hopefully tamer than Time Enough for Love or The Cat Who Walks Through Walls. Hey, I am all for RAH and his anarchist leanings. But his version of polygamy/ line marriages is bad. If you are a man of means, you had 4-5 wives, maybe even some young enough to be grandkids. If not, you are not invited to the party. Then again, if a bunch of folks lived 400 + years looking like a 30 year old, I do agree the institution of marriage would change. Other than that, his crackpot politics seem fine to me. But, I might be a crackpot, too.