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Offline Trenacker

Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #135 on: September 03, 2023, 04:01:07 PM »
I believe strongly that Russian misinformation, spread on social media, helped to metastasize [Sleezebag]'s movement leading into the 2016 election, that that the [Sleezebag] Campaign sought openly to coordinate with the Russians during the race, to the point of unwisely exposing itself to discovery.

But the garbage that reaches most Americans comes from Fox News. The intellectual sliminess that says Joe Biden is a wreck who can't communicate, but Donald [Sleezebag] is hale and healthy and not clearly disturbed.

Thanks to selective reporting, Republicans see only a fraction of [Sleezebag]'s wrongdoing, which makes it even harder to break out of the cult routine.
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Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #136 on: September 03, 2023, 04:06:02 PM »
Thanks to selective reporting, Republicans see only a fraction of [Sleezebag]'s wrongdoing, which makes it even harder to break out of the cult routine.

If a segment of a population is too lazy to check more news sources then the one(s) within their comfort circle...

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Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #137 on: September 03, 2023, 04:07:14 PM »
But they are that lazy.



I wasn't joking about not being 100% sure he ain't the Antichrist - he's corrupted and suborned most churches further into the error of hate politics, and the signs and wonders he does?  -That anyone ever supported a sorry joke like him in the first place.

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Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #138 on: September 04, 2023, 06:41:49 AM »
If a segment of a population is too lazy to check more news sources then the one(s) within their comfort circle...

While I appreciate the sentiment that he who made his bed should be abandoned to lie in it, such a strategy is less appealing when the bed is shared.

And remember, too, that there's no reason for the credulous to doubt that Fox News is telling them all the news they need to see, and from the only perspective that isn't taking excessive liberties.

People know that Fox has a conservative bias, but they assume picking news channels is like picking ice cream: they're all flavored, and you just need to pick the one that works for you. But what they don't really understand is that Fox News is selective about what it decides to communicate, sensationalizing some stories and suppressing others. All news does this, actually, but Fox News is just especially shameless in its approach.

Bottom line: most people are too ignorant to know better. Only some of this is willful.
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Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #139 on: September 05, 2023, 06:20:41 AM »
But they are that lazy.



I wasn't joking about not being 100% sure he ain't the Antichrist - he's corrupted and suborned most churches further into the error of hate politics, and the signs and wonders he does?  -That anyone ever supported a sorry joke like him in the first place.

I had the same thought today.

Mitch is a tragedy. Looks like another stroke to us. They explain it away as "he is dehydrated " and "he fell and got a concussion recently, it's just the after effects.

Well... He might be dehydrated if he couldn't swallow very well... and he might have fallen and got a concussion ....'BECAUSE HE KEEPS HAVING MINI STROKES!"

Dianne Feinstein needs to retire for health reasons as well.

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Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #140 on: September 05, 2023, 11:44:04 AM »
...Yes, much like Reagan after he was shot...

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #141 on: September 06, 2023, 05:21:03 AM »
Well, they had a press conference to insist that Mitch's problems aren't Parkinson's or strokes, but they didn't say what they were.

Which leaves us with Mitch has a mysterious problem that causes him to fall or freeze without warning.

Speaking as a person with an inner ear disorder and having had more than my fair share of falls, I would strongly advise him to stay away from places with marble floors and stairs.

Offline Geo

Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #142 on: September 06, 2023, 04:51:56 PM »
Speaking as a person with an inner ear disorder and having had more than my fair share of falls, I would strongly advise him to stay away from places with marble floors and stairs.

That's a polite way of telling him to retire, Rusty. ;)

Offline Trenacker

Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #143 on: September 09, 2023, 03:51:07 PM »
I guess it's a self-contradictory stance, but while I'm not keen on legislative and executive term limits--for both purely democratic and experiential reasons--I think there is far better justification for age limits on congressional and presidential service.

The obvious benefit of a legislative term limit is that it would eliminate the specter of the looming election cycle, theoretically giving lawmakers more room to govern according to a specific ideology. It would also limit the opportunity for special interests to entrench themselves through election contributions since the opportunities for post-election leverage over a winning candidate would be much less.

The dangers of legislative term limits are many, however. First, they constrain choice, which is inherently anti-democratic. Second, they are likely to make elected officials more dependent upon lobbyists and consultants to build relationships with other legislators, and to develop both issue and procedural knowledge. Third, there is a danger that, instead of working only for the next election cycle, legislators will gum the works of government by preening for the next sinecure, essentially auditioning for corporate boards and other plumb post-governmental appointments.

An age limit, set at 65 for all positions, might help reduce the likelihood society will end up dealing with the apparent cognitive problems of a president, judge, or legislator, which are especially thorny in a partisan context. Democrats would rather have zombie-Feinstein than the alternative, and Republicans are probably sticking with Mitch for the same reasons.

Again, a lot of the problems go back to media. Fox News hammers at Biden. They have been tremendously successful in creating a compelling case for their viewers that he is incapable of doing the job, and yet you hear nary a peep about Donald [Sleezebag]'s inability to create coherent sentences, process detail, or speak anything remotely resembling the truth.
"There's another old saying, Senator. Don't piss down my back and tell me it rains." - Julius Augustus Caesar, attrib.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #144 on: September 23, 2023, 01:38:34 AM »

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #145 on: September 23, 2023, 01:51:13 AM »
I think Ross Perot addressed this problem the first time he ran. "Ethical Reform"was one of his top 3 priorities. Explained as [Close the revolving door! We need a law that says that if you leave the Federal government, you can not work for a firm that lobbies the federal government for 5 years, and a foreign country for 10 years. ]

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #146 on: September 25, 2023, 08:13:16 PM »
[Sleezebag] was arraigned for espionage yesterday.
HOORAY for "the Rule of Law"! While I understand that because he has a Secret Service detail, authorities know where he is  at all times, I was shocked that they didn't pull his passport.  Tonight I saw an interview with the former attorney for Reality Winner, (a service person convicted of espionage) - "I can't understand why a person indicted for espionage can still travel internationally- Why,... ( stammers, looks dumbfounded) That's just bonkers!" the attorney said.

So today [Sleezebag] bought a Glock. I think it had his picture on it. 

Donald [Sleezebag], The guy who has been threatening judges, jurors, prosecutors and witnesses, while out on bail, While being specifically warned by judges not to make threats. Me, I find those high capacity Glocks threatening. It's easy to get lucky with lots of rounds. The fact that he can buy one? "THAT"S JUST BONKERS!!"

Offline Geo

Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #147 on: September 26, 2023, 08:35:47 AM »
[Sleezebag] was arraigned for espionage yesterday.
HOORAY for "the Rule of Law"! While I understand that because he has a Secret Service detail, authorities know where he is  at all times, I was shocked that they didn't pull his passport.  Tonight I saw an interview with the former attorney for Reality Winner, (a service person convicted of espionage) - "I can't understand why a person indicted for espionage can still travel internationally- Why,... ( stammers, looks dumbfounded) That's just bonkers!" the attorney said.

So today [Sleezebag] bought a Glock. I think it had his picture on it. 

Donald [Sleezebag], The guy who has been threatening judges, jurors, prosecutors and witnesses, while out on bail, While being specifically warned by judges not to make threats. Me, I find those high capacity Glocks threatening. It's easy to get lucky with lots of rounds. The fact that he can buy one? "THAT"S JUST BONKERS!!"

Maybe his SS detail is heavier-armed, and he feels he needs protection against them?

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #148 on: September 28, 2023, 01:29:47 AM »
Well, he may or may not have bought a glock.
His publicist said that he did on social media and posted a video clip...then deleted it. On the clip [Sleezebag] says he wants one while handling it. When the store was called by the press they hung up. Then the story changed to he didn't buy a gun.

I wonder if maybe [Sleezebag] did buy one, but then somebody realized that it was illegal, and that [Sleezebag] could go to jail for that, the guy who sold it to him could me charged with a felony, and the store's firearms license could be in jeopardy. Then canceled the sale.

As I say
1) Don't crime.
2) Don't crime on record.
3) When you do, remain silent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/25/us/politics/[Sleezebag]-glock-gun-south-carolina.html?unlocked_article_code=9g76WavHgZk6JnVMJyx3hIW6XTyqaRpIR8c-f-4rDkHOozNNzeE65fkunID6EWs5elQRkNonhFWaSsLphbUvs_DhoaqE-PcjctVCrP6U4wxxNwcriTXFdxovzHdNQDtSyhVFAERMgrc3lhxKSeRfg5-xyiZEEZiR_yRdSamIuvQPljBwQZ5iZms61PuaOaT2_6wuvO4vfffKyzUO8X44bv37jhA9wqnTu6o7-9bXoNys6DlAdD3_NSPv1ykDa5YSJpDmjxl6VRbjPTe2phUxW41NAiWL9lbQRFSCvEirvvRYdfu52njrwtbBD4QBZkayU0eOBaf4CotVkwqd7rrWuc5uDb1qeHUUSrfSYg&smid=url-share&fbclid=IwAR0MPCApT5D3iIGX-sDfcYmfcPIncUjBVbx-OxlpOEV0iL0Psz2V6QCVsH8

Personally, I am okay with Hunter Biden and Donald [Sleezebag] being held to the same standard as any black guy in the inner city.
The Secret Service should know, one way or the other. Technically just handling a pistol that had been transported across state lines while on parole is a felony.


Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Politics 2023
« Reply #149 on: September 28, 2023, 01:43:19 AM »
Maybe his SS detail is heavier-armed, and he feels he needs protection against them?


Sadly the Secret Service has had some scandals this century. Many SS agents are [Sleezebag] supporters. I doubt that the ones who don't support him wish to risk their lives for him.

ALSO- ["The Department notified us that many U.S. Secret Service (USSS) text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021, were erased as part of a device-replacement program," Inspector General Joseph Cuffari wrote to top members of congressional Homeland Security committees. "The USSS erased those messages after OIG requested records of electronic communications from the USSS, as part of our evaluation of the events at the Capitol on January 6."]
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/14/1111618620/secret-service-erased-texts-from-two-day-period-spanning-jan-6-attack-watchdog-s




 

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