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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #330 on: January 15, 2021, 10:54:38 PM »
1826, it appears - Albert barely skipped off to England and fertility in time.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #331 on: January 16, 2021, 01:10:24 AM »
'Nets nerds let Google do too much of their thinking -and arguing- for them. ;nod

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #332 on: January 16, 2021, 01:53:17 AM »
Perfect segue - all these fakey Republikkan calls for "unity"?  From the ones who assaulted national unity the most to begin with with the Big Lies?  -Recall what the word fascism MEANS in Mussolini's original conception.

Sick burn or self-own?  Both.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #333 on: January 16, 2021, 02:26:29 AM »
Pig was conferring with a pillow salesman about imposing martial law today.

Not a hoax, not a dream, not an imaginary story or BU hype/exaggeration.  An AP photographer got a distance closeup of the My Pillow guy's notes in hand as he entered the White House for a meeting with The Turd.  Hand-obscured and difficult to read, but mentions of the Insurrection Act and imposing martial law legible, w/ some names like Sydney Powell and suchlike Nazi loons.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #334 on: January 16, 2021, 04:58:27 AM »
We need police.  I don't know what to do about problems with the sort of people who tend to go into that line of work, and it IS one of those professions that draws a type who tends to be a problem, and it IS a profession that throws its workers into contact with the worst element, and the worst element mostly comes from the poor, and the poor tend to be brown - and I'm pretty sure a lot of decent people go into policing and come out racist from that contact with the worst element.

My mom sez the other day that Sis and I are always down on the po-po.  Couple hours later, I come back with "It's not political; we're from [hometown]".  Our local police are notoriously bad.

I don't know what should be done about it - but we need police.  We can't function as a society w/o police and soldiers and a functioning government to take care of business, keep thing running and protect us.  We need police.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #335 on: January 16, 2021, 05:37:15 AM »
I don't know what should be done about it - but we need police.  We can't function as a society w/o police and soldiers and a functioning government to take care of business, keep thing running and protect us.  We need police.

Police, of course. But soldiers?
It was the first time in my life I saw soldiers guarding public spaces after the bombing of our national airport a couple years ago.
Soldiers are for external threats, not internal.
But of course you live in a country where everyone and his pet can carry a gun to the streets, and own military assault equipment.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #336 on: January 16, 2021, 01:53:59 PM »
We need soldiers to keep the Belgian soldiers out.

If the world was the way it ought to be, we wouldn't even need nearly as many police - but it is and we do.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #337 on: January 16, 2021, 02:53:02 PM »
We need soldiers to keep the Belgian soldiers out.


I know the Belgian Paracommando's are good, but that good? A couple brigades are a bit much, even if they're only National Guard.
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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #338 on: January 16, 2021, 02:54:48 PM »
Y'all's bad news...

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #339 on: January 16, 2021, 04:04:07 PM »
The NRA filed for bankruptcy a couple days ago.

That wasn't a excruciatingly troublesome organization in my childhood in the 70s - but what it became soon after, and has grown into, is --- the Second Amendment shouldn't be more important than the First and the rest of the Constitution, and those jokers are willing to absolutely destroy ANYthing and ANYone who gets in the way of their beloved murder tools.  The NRA is the Klan w/o sheets and a drag on the rotation of the planet.

It's probably too much to hope that the NRA is destroyed, but hope, all decent people should.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #340 on: January 16, 2021, 05:29:40 PM »
It even made the news here.
But it seems they want to relocate to the Lone Star State?


Thing is, I find it weird that such a lobby group would get in financial trouble in the first place in a country like the US? It couldn't be for lack of support. Management reaming too much from the golden through perhaps?

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #341 on: January 16, 2021, 06:01:29 PM »
I CAN'T be arsed to read up on it, but yes, that it's just legal shenanigans involving to a move to THE gun-crazy state is what I also heard, yes.  No idea who-all they're stiffing paying their bills to, but anyone owed large cash by the N.R.-freakin'-A. deserves being cheated and ruined, a lot like Giuliani and for very similar reasons.  The N is for Nazi, if you ask me.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #342 on: January 16, 2021, 07:11:35 PM »
Like, Nazi Republican Army.



AOC was on Maddow last night, and of COURSE the only clip from that I've seen is a minute and 1/2 of "Rep. Ocasio-Cortez on Congress members who may be sympathetic towards the rioter carrying Confederate flag: 'The Confederacy were a band of enemies and traitors to the U.S. ... if they find more sympathy with them, then perhaps they shouldn't be serving in the U.S. Congress.'"

Not even exactly bothering to complain anymore; just pointing and saying There It Is and no mention the dude in question is from Delaware.  I wish people didn't display that thing, too, and for the same reason she does, plus.  Nobody hates the freak polygamous Mormons like the regular Mormons do.  (Except the ex-polygamists...)

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #343 on: January 16, 2021, 08:19:42 PM »
Coincidently -no really- I just googled something I saw on Twitter that looked to be a song lyric, and-


Not a syllable in the whole song about why the English are caught in the Vietnamese monkey trap Ireland has become to Britain -people who wanted to be King of England a long time ago kept sailing over there and coming back with Irish armies- and no reason there should be.  I just heard this song for the first time and realized that they are me, just a little.  I extend them my compassion and brotherhood, especially when they are peaceful.

None of this, to be perfectly clear, is any major significant part of my life or my worldview when I'm home and Yankees aren't poking at the sore spot. 

I'm an American, God Bless America, and I just want to be accepted like everybody else.  It's a couple of generations past time.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #344 on: January 16, 2021, 09:45:28 PM »
SO, here's an ultimate point I've been semi-consciously trying to make to all of you for several days explaining a "southern" POV---

Imagine that I had not been polarized since 1980 in the opposite direction intended by the Reagan revolution's Big Lies and general lack of class in all things.  Already alienated by the [poopy] way Jimmy Carter was treated for speaking like, and being from, Georgia -my GOD, the jokes were ugly and omnipresent for years and years right there on the news and everywhere- imagine I embraced Reagan's shabby bill of goods and got more racist instead of less.

Pretty easy to imagine me having one of those nasty Pig signs in my yard, now, instead of I haven't said the Traitor's name in public in five years.  Maybe even saw me on the news last week.  The bigotry feeding that, to the extent participation in Nazi Wednesday -or just echoing the Big Lie(s)- is "southern", is a real part of things.  It feeds into the shabby reactionary stuff you do see "southern" folk on TV doing and saying, whether Lynyrd Skynyrd fandom, a raised finger facing North -part of the same thing, and sometimes also- actual conscious racism.  It's not an excuse or anything, just, the resentment at being oppressed and insulted and treated with contempt and pointed at as the worst --- doesn't make trying to advance into modern times and be better any easier; no, it provokes profound contrarian impulses.

Like Whoopy Goldberg as a child loving Lt. Uhura there existing in the future, I wanted to be proud of MY progenitors and MY people.  That's never gone away, nor ever will.

It's not a coincidence that everyone knows a good deal about the Pilgrim Fathers of Plymouth Rock and thinks Jamestown failed and went away.  Nossir, Jamestown -I had an ancestor there in 1505, Thomas Harris, and misremembered the other day about Heinrick Wiedner, who was more recent- moved to nearby higher ground later, but has been a live place where people live ever since.  Not hard to guess why the shift in emphasis to New England latecomers for our Founder Myth, is it?

It's everywhere.  Even if you believe me about all this, you still don't see most of it, because you're soaking in it - fish don't know the water is wet.  Your mother is not the one being insulted.

Uno, think about if the Mormons hadn't been allowed strong leadership when Deseret became Utah, and Bigamy Young and subsequent leaders hadn't made such a wise decision about external relations with the gentile world and projecting A Wholesome Image.  You know far better than I how close LDS holds all The Murder of the Faithful as part of their Founder Story.  Just imagine how it might be now.



I want to talk about Mussolini, not this, but it just. keeps. popping. up as I make my normal internet rounds.  The water is wet.

 

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