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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #120 on: January 08, 2021, 09:24:46 PM »
https://twitter.com/i/status/1347243901535576067

Sorry for all the Twitter video links, but this one is of OJ -yes, OJ- making what I believe is a correct legal point that all the Wednesday Capitol Nazis are eligible to be charged under the felony murder rule.

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« Reply #121 on: January 08, 2021, 10:30:56 PM »
I kinda wonder... 3 out of 4 protestor deaths were appearantly related to health problems.
How many were in that intruding crowd in the Capitol? A couple hundred? Even if they rotated, perhaps a bit over a thousand? That's quite a high mortality rate for such a relatively young group of protestors.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #122 on: January 08, 2021, 11:11:00 PM »
Dunno.  One is alleged to have died of tazering his own balls.  I imagine there's a story to go with that, but I have not heard it.

I don't THINK the accidental deaths count, depending on a multitude of details - but everyone convicted of a felony in that time and place, plus any related conspiracy convictions, get a piece of the woman who was shot and the cop-killing.

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« Reply #123 on: January 08, 2021, 11:43:03 PM »
Dunno.  One is alleged to have died of tazering his own balls.
Hope he is a candidate for a Darwin Award

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I imagine there's a story to go with that, but I have not heard it.
I don't THINK the accidental deaths count, depending on a multitude of details - but everyone convicted of a felony in that time and place, plus any related conspiracy convictions, get a piece of the woman who was shot and the cop-killing.
Not all were young, some of those [Sleezebag] supporters are seniors (or close to it)
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« Reply #124 on: January 08, 2021, 11:45:07 PM »
Twitter has Perma-Banned [Sleezebag]  ;BANNED!
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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #125 on: January 08, 2021, 11:53:45 PM »
As of about a half-hour ago.  You beat me here reporting by about five minutes because I had to go tell Mom first.

I love the symbolism.  I hate what it takes for a big operation to finally do the right thing.  He's first on the list of folks OJ pointed out are legally murderers - and that's in addition to th' sumbitch killed Mary Ann.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #126 on: January 09, 2021, 01:38:15 AM »
Cap's speech is, once again, on-topic.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #127 on: January 09, 2021, 01:41:27 AM »
Ooh, and while I'm in that folder...

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #128 on: January 09, 2021, 01:48:20 AM »
This one's about a year old, but the truth still stings...

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« Reply #129 on: January 09, 2021, 02:40:19 AM »
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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #130 on: January 09, 2021, 03:02:47 AM »
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Included in Twitter’s statement, explaining why it banned [Sleezebag]: “Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021.”

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #132 on: January 09, 2021, 03:28:29 AM »
I've been trying to explain that to two members earlier this week, and several cousins talkin' treason on Facebook more recently.


I would have posted that one years ago, seriously, but you thems some words you may not say here...

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #133 on: January 09, 2021, 08:40:29 AM »
I've been trying to explain that to two members earlier this week,
There's a reasonably good chance you're talking about me.  In my case, no, there is no First Amendment issue here.  It's about how you handle disagreement, and I've said everything that had to be said on that subject, in private.

I don't have a track record of showing interest in politics threads.  Once upon a time I didn't even do well with Star Wars threads, so I've stayed away from here.  Only extraordinary events, demonstrating exactly how right I was, would cause me to even look at the Rec Commons.  I haven't even looked at the rest of this thread yet.  I wonder what I'm going to see.

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #134 on: January 09, 2021, 10:08:44 AM »
I read the thread.

Assassination of some Democrat political leaders is a scenario I calculated could occur, in the event of a Biden win.  There was that abduction threat to a Governor in the preceding months.  Although, I've hoped that the FBI and other 3 letter agencies would exercise some independence from [Sleezebag], and go after the thugs.  I haven't really studied how the command, control, and appointeeship of those agencies work.

There's clearly a C&C issue with the Capitol Police, who simply let the white conservative protesters in.  Not just as a matter of tactical action at the door, but the complete disinterest in establishing a real presence to begin with.  [Sleezebag] is also in command of the Washington D.C. National Guard, and clearly didn't want to use them.

I did not anticipate that [Sleezebag] would escalate an authoritarian purge of minions who no longer do his bidding, such as of Pence.  I can definitely see how everyone's been trying to wait him out, just get to January 20th where he can't do punishing things to them anymore.  I don't think Pence is interested in being assassinated.

The inauguration could be ugly, but Biden "the asset" will be well protected.  I wonder if crowd controlling microwave weapons will be deployed?  It doesn't send a great message, but tactically, it would be a good idea.  Hopefully all kinds of security people have all kinds of good ideas, and aren't going to allow any shenanigans.

It would be best for all liberals and Biden supporters to stay away from the inauguration.  In particular, in liberal gun ownership circles, there are some wound up people without a lot of sense, who think they're going to "help" by defending a crowd of liberals.  It would be best if there's no liberal crowd, if they have the basic sense to stay out of harm's way this time.  And you don't want to be a 3rd party with a gun when the Feds start shooting.

Crowds shouldn't be allowed anyways, due to covid-19.  But people are stupid.  Obviously we've seen that white conservatives will do what they want.  Liberals shouldn't join in, because this is not a protest.  There is no liberal message at stake.

 

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