Co(n)dominium issues...

[Rusty Edge]

They'll be more careful once their tools and materials disappear.

[Geo]

The 'funny' thing is I checked on the storage shack the day after, and found what looks suspiciously like stolen or copycat merchandise in it.
Didn't even bother telling that to the owner.

[Geo]

Well, at long last construction of my condo/appartment seems to come at an end. the better part of half a year overdue, but its about habitable.

[Buster's Uncle]

What's that Dutch word you told me for where you belong and you're rooted?

A thread title change is in order, I think - you can do that yourself...

[Geo]

What's that Dutch word you told me for where you belong and you're rooted?

I kinda drew a blank here. Perhaps the Dutch word for "hearth" (fireplace in a house)? A 'haard'?

[Syn]

Looks nice. Are the windows huge or is that a small kitchen?

[Buster's Uncle]

Haard might be it - the word in question means something more than just Home, but your proper place, where you belong, if not own - it owns you back.  You said we kept talking about the concept showing you our home and our native land where some of our roots here go back 500 years, rather un-American of us.

[Geo]

Looks nice. Are the windows huge or is that a small kitchen?

The former.
It's a terrace window, its over 3 x 2 meter (roughly 10 x 7 feet).

That might be it - it means something more than just Home, but your proper place, where you belong, if not own - it owns you back.  You said we kept talking about the concept showing you our home and our native land where some of our roots here go back 500 years, rather un-American of us.

I entirely forgot too much.

[E_T]

Looks good.

[Buster's Uncle]

BTW?  I did mean "Haard" or whatever term you explicated long ago for the title, Geo - but what you edited in is clever, twice over.

Wait - I bet I know what threw you; ISTR the word was German, actually, at least a neighboring lowland dialect, the concept sounding one hell of a lot more Bavarian than Prussian...

You did say hearth in that context, though.  You either said, or I just thought, that it's cool how close Hearth and Heart are in English...



Heart/Hearth!   I grok; in sit in my heart/hearth as I type this...

[Buster's Uncle]

BTW, Geo, I just arrogantly fiddled with your account again - check Planet Tales, PLEASE.

[Geo]

A PM would have had faster results, you know...

[Buster's Uncle]

You found it within one minute of me adding you to the group -already looking as fast as I surfaced from posting- and I HATE PMs that aren't necessary.

[Buster's Uncle]

If Owen Glyndwr at CFC has never been on your radar, Geo, he's expert in Germanic linguistics and history thereof and been known to do epic thorough nuking from orbit of topics that fall into that specialty - so I passed the Heart/Hearth word question to him this evening, and got a fast response.

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/history-questions-not-worth-their-own-thread-viii.609406/page-16#post-15088104

Not...entirely sure what you're asking here?

heart comes from *ḱḗr (long e; lengthened owing to the loss of -d in the nominative form, still present in the genitive form: *ḱr̥dés). This word is reflected in, e.g. Latin cor (gen. cordis). Grimm's law notes k -> x in the shift from PIE to PGmc, so the PGmc form is *ḱḗr(d) -> *hertô (d -> t is another part of Grimm's Law)

hearth comes from the PIE root *ker- (not the same as a noun; note also a straight velar /k/ rather than the palato-velar /ḱ/) which means "to burn", giving us the aforementioned hearth (via OE heorþ), but also: Goth haúri ("coal"), ON hyrr ("fire"), and via the ablaut PIE *kr-em- -> Lat. cremo ('burn')

Another word that sounds similar: hart (the original word for a male deer; reflected in German Hirsch, Dutch hert) which comes originally from PIE *ḱóru ("horn"), which went, again k -> in Germanic (PGmc. is *herutaz), and this PIE term also gives us Lat. cornu ("horn")

Similar sounding, yes, but not at all related.

To the second part of the post (the possibly-German word that means home and is related to hearth) - the German word for hearth is der Herd, although the reference to a hearth is archaic now. Other descendants of PGmc herþaz ("hearth") are Luxembourgish Häerd, Frisian Herde, Heet, and hurd, Low German Heerd.

There's also the word home, coming from PIE *ḱóymos ("village, home") -> PGmc *haimaz ("home") reflected in a butt-ton of assorted words, notably Heim and Heimat in German, heem and heim and Dutch, Heem and Heim in Low German, ham and home in English, hamm, Heem, and hiem in various Frisian dialects. Also French hameau, whose Old French ancestor hamelet gave us hamlet.

...I think I was asking for Heimat.  That rings a bell as what you said, Geo...

[Buster's Uncle]

That would describe Heimat, yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimat

There's some stuff about Nazis, alas, 'cause Heimat is easily made nationalistic and political.