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Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« on: September 07, 2015, 01:47:56 AM »
I've been using PC Tools Antivirus Free for years - and it's gotten painfully slow, progressively borked up my system performance worse while running, and is no longer supported or getting virus definition updates, so stupidly past time to send that nag to the knacker's.

-I also have Malwarebytes, but rarely run it on account of it's never found a single thing but some .pup files.  -Doesn't strike me as exactly erring on the side of caution.


Thoughts?  What's out there that's any good for free download?

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Re: Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2015, 11:55:41 AM »
I use Avast, It has a very small footprint. No problems for me.
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Re: Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2015, 04:52:51 AM »
-I broke down and installed AdblockPlus today - preliminary returns are indicating that it has less visible impact than I expected, but that it just may be the shiznic everyone claims.

Any ideas beside Avast?  Is that a free download, then?

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Re: Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2015, 05:22:43 AM »
I also use Avast. Yes, it's free.
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Re: Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2015, 01:56:23 PM »
AdBlock may be being a problem.

I guess I'll google for Avast.

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Re: Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2015, 02:37:52 PM »
I just use the Windows malware detector and firewall (+ inbuilt firewall on my router) on my windows machines.

uBlock is like Adblock plus but lighter on your computer's resources.

What OS are you running, BUncle (I think XP?) and what are the specs of your computer? If your computer is very old and running windows you could just be suffering from that mysterious windows cruft that builds up over time.

If you haven't already, check what processes are running at startup with msconfig.exe (start > run) or by downloading ccleaner and going to the startup tab.

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Re: Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2015, 02:56:59 PM »
IE 11.0.9600.17959

W7

Machine's been in service for a few months longer than I've been here, so getting close to four years and I'm sure that there's non-trivial windows cruft built up.  I've tried to explain about that to my mom, who gets really frustrated with the performance degradation that comes with the demon Gate's monopoly over time.

NONE of this crap will freakin' copy/paste:

2.70 GHz
3.00 GB (2.75 GB usable)
64-bit


Does that answer on specs?

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Re: Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2015, 08:42:31 PM »
Do you know the processor name at all? For example, one of mine is an "i5 3570k" (I think). You should be able to find this information out from "System Properties" or "System Information" in windows.

See the later answers to this question for some rough instructions on how to find those windows: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10595312/how-to-get-cpus-model-number-like-core-i7-860-on-windows

## Software things you can do to make your PC faster

Anyway, have a look at those startup programs. Even if you turn everything off there's only a fairly small chance of breaking the computer, so just turn off everything you know is cruft (adobe updater, apple stuff, antivirus, etc) and google for stuff you don't recognise if you don't feel brave about just turning it off.

You might find that's enough to bring your performance back to a tolerable level. If not, reinstalling windows is often the easiest reliable way to get a windows machine back to a good level of performance.

Once reinstalled, you can keep it reasonably fast by not installing stuff you don't need, by being careful about downloading crapware from the internet and by policing the startup programs in the startup directory and in msconfig/cleaner.

If you have any naive users on the machine (perhaps your mother?), it's normally best to put them on an unprivileged account for their own good (so they can't install crapware by accident or break things).

Also, you don't have very much RAM. It's possible (but not certain) that this is causing you issues). Unless you have a particularly small case for the machine, it's usually pretty easy to fit more, and RAM is fairly cheap, and if your motherboard is recent enough to support DDR3 (probable), you'll probably be able to use any new RAM in your next computer. 8GB of RAM is a sensible amount these days. Enthusiast machines tend to have 16-32GB of RAM, but there's no real need for more than 8 unless you want to get serious about digital art or photo manipulation or you do a lot of software compilation or scientific/numeric processing.

The GNU/linux laptop I'm using right now (2007 x61s Thinkpad) only has 3GB of RAM, and that serves me well enough, but wouldn't under windows (heavier OS, worse OS scheduling, etc). It does have a really terrible screen, though (1024x768, rubbish colours).

## Hardware things you can do to make computers faster

Clean yo computer. Computers don't like to be too hot. Hotter computers experience faster component failure and processors and other components may throttle themselves to avoid heat death.

First thing to do is to clean any dust filters in your case (these are fine meshes in front of vents). Next, you can go further with compressed air and/or disassembling the computer.

You can clean a computer most easily with compressed air. This is cheap and can be used without disassembling the computer. Simply turn the power off, take the computer somewhere you don't mind getting dusty (like outside) and spray compressed air through the vents being careful not to push any fans the wrong way.

You can clean the computer more thoroughly by taking it apart and spraying components with compressed air or wiping them with a microfibre cloth. Pay particular attention to heatsinks and fans. If you're feeling really enthusiastic, you can also take the heatsinks off, clean them with isopropyl and then reseat them with a fresh application of thermal interface paste.

##

If you try both the software and hardware fixes and can't get the performance that you want then all you can do is partially or fully upgrade your computer. If you run various diagnostic software, you may be able to determine if any component is faulty (SMART data for hard drives, memtest86 for memory, stress tests + looking at sensor data for processors and GPUs).

If you don't have an SSD then you might want to consider investing in one. It's usually the best improvement in computing experience per dollar if you don't have one. You just need to get a smallish one (64GB would be enough) and install the OS and any programs you think are particularly slow on the SSD, user files and other programs on a HDD.

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Re: Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2015, 09:12:58 PM »
AMD Semipron (tm) 140 processor  - it was in the same place before (just right-clicked properties w/o opening "Computer" in the Windows corner menu) but I didn't know you needed that.

My machine wakes up stupid and slowly, like I do, so purging the startup junk will probably do it, I bet.

The tower is the smallest I've ever had, but no idea if particularly small - but throwing money at problems is always a last resort.  That's why I tend to HAVE money when it does come to last resorts.

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Re: Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2015, 04:09:08 AM »
That processor is very weak. Fortunately, if you have the right kind of motherboard you can reactivate an extra core in the processor and turn it into a passable athlon x2 (still a bit rubbish by today's standards).

Download CPU-Z and confirm you only have one core working.

Look in your BIOS for "Advanced Clock Calibration" and turn it on.

Check again in CPU-Z.

The processor can also be overclocked quite a lot (up to 3.4-3.7 GHz, supposedly). You might not be able to get that high on the stock cooler, though.

If you can't reactivate the core, and performance is still rubbish, I'd strongly recommend that you find out what socket type your motherboard has (could be AM2+ or AM3) and consider buying a better processor (would be cheap).

Considering you use the computer all the time, it's probably a good investment to get one that isn't a pita.

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Re: Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2015, 04:14:28 AM »
I'm still working up the courage to try earlier things you suggested.  I've got a wonky fan that only almost always starts when I turn on in the morning, so overclocking sound like a Very Dicey Idea.

throwing money at problems is always a last resort.  That's why I tend to HAVE money when it does come to last resorts.

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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2015, 04:34:06 AM »
Best of luck.

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Re: Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2015, 04:03:28 PM »
The adblock seems to have settled in and not be causing problems -and there seems to be significant performance improvement at some sites that had gotten unacceptably slow- but it doesn't seem to actually block many ads...

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Re: Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2015, 12:28:16 AM »
Which blocker did you use in the end?

Make sure the blocklists are set to automatically update and that they've been updated recently. If ads aren't being blocked you can add more blocklists, too.

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Re: Time for a new free virus scanner - advice?
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2015, 12:34:43 AM »
... :-[ I haven't psyched up to do anything yet.  I'm at that stage in my moods where getting motivated is beginning to be a problem...

 

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