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Offline Unorthodox

Re: The Issue of Homelessness
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2015, 05:22:31 PM »
"So you would help them out, or you would help them out.?"
"Exactly."

I saw the trailer for Rambo. It appeared to be about a body builder clobbering  the Russians with dynamite arrows in Viet Nam. It was too ridiculous to pay to see, or even watch on TV for free, so I never saw it, or the sequels.

That's #2 and so on. 

#1 is titled "First Blood", NOT Rambo, and actually has SOMETHING to say. 

Rambo being a PTSD Vietnam vet struggling to adjust, set off by a small town cop harrassing him, causing a flashback where he goes on a rampage about the town. 

It's still big loud and dumb, but actually had a message hidden down in it somewhere.  Unlike the others.

Offline Geo

Re: The Issue of Homelessness
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2015, 05:47:51 PM »
I indeed meant the movie UnO refers to.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: The Issue of Homelessness
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2015, 06:29:55 PM »
Okay, maybe I'll watch that one sometime.

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Re: The Issue of Homelessness
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2015, 06:34:02 PM »
You will not love First Blood, but will not hate it, either.  The things it says were more original at the time it said them.

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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2015, 11:39:11 PM »
Fix the economy you fix the problem. Its the natural result of a usury banking system.
Money becomes worth less and less and people start to fall through the cracks.
Its why we fought a revolution to be free of Britain in the first place.
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A study of American Colonial history will reveal that Benjamin Franklin went to England as a representative of the Colonies.


The English officials asked how it was the Colonies managed to collect enough taxes to build poor houses, and how they were able to handle the great burden of caring for the poor. Franklin's reply was most revealing: "We have no poor houses in the Colonies, and if we had, we would have no one to put in them, as in the Colonies there is not a single unemployed man, no poor and no vagabonds." Think long and hard about this. In the American colonies before the American Revolution, there was "not a single unemployed man, no poor and no vagabonds". -- no one on Welfare, no one on Social Security, no homeless, no income tax, no alphabet agencies, No IRS, BATF, FBI, DEA, CIA, HEW, OSHA, SBA, and on and on and on to provide for the "general welfare" of our villages, towns, cities and states. How did Benjamin Franklin explain this to the British officials of his day?
How would he explain it to today's lawyers, judges, politicians and other government officials? "It is because, in the Colonies, we issue our own paper money. We call it Colonial Script, and we issue only enough to move all goods freely from the producers to the Consumers; and as we create our money, we control the purchasing power of money, and have no interest to pay."

It was right after this that the British started the events that led to the revolution.
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Benjamin Franklin identified this as the real reason for the War of Independence:
"The refusal of King George to operate an HONEST colonial MONEY SYSTEM which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the manipulators was probably the prime cause of the Revolution."
"The Colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters, had it not been that England took away from the Colonies their money, which created unemployment and dis-satisfaction." -

Here we see the cause of poverty, unemployment and financial insecurity.
There can be no personal liberty without financial freedom.

-Benjamin Franklin
Its the predatory banking system that causes these problems. Building houses for them wont help nor will importing
muslim refugees. Theres a reason Usury banking is forbidden in the Bible. Its economic slavery that drive people into the streets.

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Re: The Issue of Homelessness
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2015, 11:42:51 PM »
...It's mostly drugs and being crazy that drives people into the streets for long, but nobody's listening to me, even though I got that direct from New York City homeless...

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2015, 11:49:05 PM »
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.It's mostly drugs and being crazy that drives people into the streets for long, but nobody's listening to me, even though I got that direct from New York City homeless...

That doesn't help. There are always such people. I've met them. The unemployment numbers in this country
are far higher than is let on. They don't count people that have stopped looking for work.
So the real rates are up near 20%. Where do you think these people go? They are starting to call
homeless tent cities "Obamavilles." Get used to it its going to get worse.

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Re: The Issue of Homelessness
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2015, 12:10:04 AM »
...When did they rename the Cheneyvilles, Mr. Trash Talk?

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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2015, 01:58:43 AM »
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.When did they rename the Cheneyvilles, Mr. Trash Talk?

Since they happened on Obamas watch. This is how Usury systems end.
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"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
The founding fathers saw this coming centuries ago. Its what we fought a revolution to be free of.

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Re: The Issue of Homelessness
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2015, 02:18:14 AM »
You mean you're blaming Obama for Reagan deregulating the banks in the 80s?

-Henceforth I am going to deploy this smilie ;hypocrite every time someone on the right posts here to blame Obama for something Republicans are guilty of more and first -if Obama is to blame at all.  I'm sick of the Big Lie.

Offline Dio

Re: The Issue of Homelessness
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2015, 01:06:44 AM »
...It's mostly drugs and being crazy that drives people into the streets for long, but nobody's listening to me, even though I got that direct from New York City homeless...
That certainly is a cause, but it does not explain a logical manner in which to help resolve this issue. I concede that it is impossible to help everybody, but also I acknowledge the fact that a signficant number may have the possibility for a decent life in semi-consistent care facilities. A major issue that arises is the fact that the chronically homeless often have a revolving door policy with this problem. In other words, they resolve the issue for awhile, but then some event happens that overburdens an already precarious sitaution. The result is they become homeless again.

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Re: The Issue of Homelessness
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2015, 01:08:35 AM »
...I also met a homeless boy who seemed to actually be lazy...

Offline Dio

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« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2015, 01:10:28 AM »
You mean you're blaming Obama for Reagan deregulating the banks in the 80s?

-Henceforth I am going to deploy this smilie ;hypocrite every time someone on the right posts here to blame Obama for something Republicans are guilty of more and first -if Obama is to blame at all.  I'm sick of the Big Lie.
Pointing fingers and placing blame on actions that have already occured will not resolve the issue. The "blame game" simply diverts attention and energy from the action of finding practical solutions that will help resolve the issue in the long term.

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Re: The Issue of Homelessness
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2015, 01:20:19 AM »
The fundamental issue that lies behind this problem is that many politicians, and citizens in general, will not touch this problem because they see "crazy" and simply say "incarceration" or "institutionalization." The fundamental problem lies in the fact that no specific organization with a solution receives adequate funding to solve this issue long term. Furthermore, the mental instiutions were shut down because they were expensive to operate, received inadequate funding, and had alleged allegations of neglect and abuse. The instiutions were supposed to have a replacement with "Community" based mental health services. However, this system lacked adequate funding at the local or federal level and simply never existed. As a result, the cost of mental health services remains inadequate and unaffordable for many individuals.

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Re: The Issue of Homelessness
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2015, 01:28:09 AM »
DO understand this - the people I'm talking about (and my brother, Dr. Buster's Daddy, worked in a homeless mission across the corner from Tompkin's Square Park just outside the Village in lower Manhattan for years, and I'm not basing all this on a few very brief aquaintances I made visiting) mostly know they're crazy, and DO. NOT. WANT. HELP. WITH. THE. CRAZY., or they wouldn't be out on the streets, most of them, avoiding exactly that sort of "help" from The System.

 

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