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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #240 on: May 15, 2020, 05:45:54 PM »
You know, I've still seen a low availability of bleach on the shelves, whenever I go into the store...
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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #241 on: May 15, 2020, 10:23:47 PM »
Some interesting info coming out about some of the survivors whom had it bad.  Reports of Dementia while in the ICU as well as some of it continuing after they get released.


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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #242 on: May 15, 2020, 10:41:02 PM »
Some discussions in WPC discord, apocalypse channel:

Arnelos on 5/13
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Pretty sure my wife and I both had it in February.  Symptoms match.  But Virginia is 50th out of 50 states in testing availability, so no way to know for sure yet.
I mean, we both lost sense of smell and taste w/o nasal congestion.  It was puzzling at the time.  Came with fever and just being tired ALL the time (probably low oxygen). None of that made sense until we heard the COVID symptoms.
Could be something else, too, but the symptoms do line up
And our kids basically never got sick
I'm Lazy and I S*ck (Conmcb25... will use Con later):
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Or your kids and or wife had it but were asymptomatic.
Myself:
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Some of the things that are happening to kids after they recover is frightening
that and some of the Rashes on places, like your toes are not looking good, either.
this is a really bad non-bug (bug would be a live bacteria, so...)
Arnie (Arnelos):
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Rashes are super common on little kids like toddlers for allergy reasons.  That'd be really difficult to isolate
Myself:
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My Infectious Disease Doctor at the VA is helping to qualify a Mass Anti-body test that will allow screening when a blood draw is done.  Should be ready to go in a week or two, from what I was told.  So, I'm holding off of getting my Regular Blood Draw and have them check for anti-bodies at the same time as my HIV Viral Load & CD4/8 counts...
I did hear about a new Shingles Vaccine that is safe for me to use now, is not the partial live version, that my T-Cells were too low to safely take.  But this new one will allow me to do so...
Con:
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Well I hope the VA test works and then you got a good chance to know. I am waiting for them to become more widespread and FDA approved. And from what I have been reading if you dont get the test shortly after having symptoms, it doesnt really work anyway. So my wife for instance probably shouldnt bother on a test from symptoms 5 months ago. I am just going to keep my head down and hope we get an anti - viral by early this fall. I really really should travel for work this summer. (I should have done it already.) but I dont know how I am going to pull it off.
Myself:
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that is the Nasal Swap test, that shows that you have an active infection.  Once your over it, it would show a negative result.
but the anti body test would have that you have had it/been exposed.  Although, at this time, it does not show the level of anti-body presence in the body (although, I'm hoping that they are also working on how to quantify that as well) or what levels would be effective against re-infection, especially if it mutates radically (which it might have already done...)
Neirai the Forgiven:
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we've known about the Pink Eye-like version for a while. My father had something that looked like pink eye but he's been tested for COVID-19 twice. Both negative.

Today, Con to Arnie:
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"GODOY: Well, so loss of sense of smell and of taste, because taste is really, really closely related to smell, that symptom has actually emerged as a really strong indicator of infection with COVID-19. There's research from both the U.S. and the U.K. suggesting that six out of 10 people who report the symptom end up testing positive for the virus.

So if you are experiencing loss of smell, doctors I spoke with say that alone should prompt you to seek testing. But there's also good news, and that's that people who lose their sense of smell tend to have a milder course of the disease. There's also certain skin conditions that are emerging as signs of infection like chilblains, which are, like, purple, pink or red bumps or lesions in the toes. And they often are accompanied by swelling."
That was NPR talking to "disease experts". The good news is if the wife and yourself both lost sense of smell you probably had a mild case. If you both had it, I bet your kids did as well, just very mild so you thought it was something else or asymptomatic is my guess. Ive heard stuff where if someone in a household gets it, everyone does, almost impossible to avoid. And thats where most of the "community infections' come from.
Arnie:
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That is precisely what we believe
Trouble is, Virginia is the worst state in the entire U.S. for testing availability, so we have no way to know
I did have a case of pink eye, back in Mid Feb, that had gone away without any pink eye meds.
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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #243 on: May 15, 2020, 10:54:28 PM »
One Unexpected effect of C-19
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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #244 on: May 16, 2020, 12:20:43 PM »
Late March/early April the Narcotics Unit of the police in the port of Antwerp did report a significant increase of intercepted drugs.
Their theory was the cartels in South America tried to smuggle as much as possible in one go before transportation was curtailed.

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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #245 on: May 20, 2020, 09:14:38 AM »
Just viewed an interview on the Covid situation in the US.
It sounds like what happened in my country, retirement homes are being hit full-on by the virus in the US.

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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #246 on: May 20, 2020, 11:40:46 PM »
A lot more instances of Dementia from this, it appears as well.
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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #247 on: May 21, 2020, 09:44:09 PM »
This aired on Tuesday

Frontlines: Inside Italy’s COVID War

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FRANCESCA MANGIATORDI:

It’s 8 o’clock on March 17. I just finished my 12-hour shift, and what affected me most tonight? A lady asked me, crying, what was going to happen to her? Why was she there on a stretcher in the hallway with 15 others and only one toilet? There is no dignity anymore; we've lost the sense of humanity.

I don’t know what the aim is of working in this way. And in the end, the role of the doctor loses its meaning.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/inside-italys-covid-war/?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=streaming&utm_content=xxxx

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FRANCESCA MANGIATORDI:

They’ll be a bed available in gynecology. But not for an hour. There's been a death and they're waiting for the cleaning. Yes, yes. COVID.

All the CT scans are practically the same now. They are all ugly. He's 35 years old. He's young! We’ll definitely have to admit him, since it's possible.

Unfortunately, I’m going to have to choose whether to admit him or an 85-year-old.

FEMALE VOICE:

What will you choose?

FRANCESCA MANGIATORDI:

The 35-year-old. We’ve had to make choices like this for a month now..
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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #248 on: May 23, 2020, 05:48:18 AM »
Several interesting things this week, all relating to corporate america in differing degrees.

Mars, Hershey, and Spirit have teamed up and are focus grouping ideas for social distancing halloween.  From online trick or treating with kids getting photos of their costume online and getting mailed the candy direct from the candy companies to various forms of drive throughs and a return of the costume parades of the 50s instead of door to door. 


Prop companies are going all in on 'just take one' candy drop items betting on something of a social distanced version of door to door trick or treat. 


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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #249 on: May 24, 2020, 11:27:03 AM »
Positive cases still rising, and they're going to open the local amusement park.  What could go wrong? 

http://www.lagoonpark.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Guest-Expectations-for-Opening-5.22.pdf

Offline Geo

Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #250 on: May 24, 2020, 04:00:36 PM »
Less then 50 deceased/day these last couple days. And new confirmed cases are less then three hundred/day.
More en more public life is returning, the next big hurdle will be the horeca. As things stand now they may open in two weeks.

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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #251 on: May 24, 2020, 07:06:04 PM »
Some of the Tourist trap parks have reopened to 50% capacity and "strict" social distancing guidelines as wall as possibly checking for fever before entering.  We will see how it goes...
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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #252 on: May 26, 2020, 11:13:00 AM »
Got a call from HR.  I was likely exposed on Thursday, though they won't give me a name so I can actually judge whether it's someone I was in close contact with or just someone on the same floor.  If it's just someone I might have touched the same doorknob as, I'm really not at all concerned.   However, I'm practically the only one in the office taking it seriously and actually wearing their mask.  (office, defined as the floor where my actual desk is, about 100 people during normal business...about 15 during Covid, the 800 employee workforce has various levels of serious depending on area)

Thursday was my only day in office last week, and my time in the actual area in question was fairly limited. 

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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #253 on: May 26, 2020, 06:13:46 PM »
In Belgium, if you're a comfirmed Covid case, you're supposed to be called by a call center asking for the names of people you've been in extended contact with a couple days before you were confirmed as infected.
Since the whole procedure of is supposed to be anonymous, I still wonder if there aren't people who forward names to get back to people they have a problem with. Supplying their name so these have to go in home quarantaine too.

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Re: Corona Virus
« Reply #254 on: May 26, 2020, 09:56:35 PM »
This was aired last week, but is still a thing...  Here's one for you Bearu...
opps, forgot the link...
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