Corona Virus

[Unorthodox]

Why do they even call Satan's place of worship a 'church'? I'm sure they could've come up with a more interesting label. 'Lair' would already do.

Because the church of satan is all about pissing off christians, and calling it a church might upset more people.  They are officially atheists who just use the symbology and 'freedom of religion' to protest against (largely christian) religious control over the gubment. 

For instance, they formed the Halloween in Summer festival, specifically to coincide with the July 24th state holiday (to celebrate the state's LDS pioneers). 

Then some jerk who cared more about the Halloween than the protest aspect got involved and got it moved to June so that it wasn't competing with another holiday and it's become big business but lost the protest aspect.     So the church tried to cancel it all together, and the city stepped in to take control. 

[Unorthodox]

Haven't really read up on your lockdown situation, but FL does seem to be a dollar late and a day short in implementing their shutdowns to where it MAY have already been too late.  And maybe even too sparse.  I not in particular you are accessing a library, where ours here in Utah have been shuttered for weeks.  Part of this is TEH CHURCH at least seems to be taking it seriously (to a degree, I could rattle on with that), which puts pressure on our officials to do the same. 

In perhaps a twist of irony, TEH CHURCH taking things seriously might have just exacerbated the problem a hundred fold. 

Weeks ago, just after the big panic, they closed the churches and temples and rolled out essentially worship from home orders.  (though given the fragmented organizational structure, this latter was left up to bishops and stake presidents, so I'm sure it's inconsistent from area to area)  These actions very much drove home to the members that this was to be taken SERIOUSLY and was going to be long term, and people really settled in for the most part.

HOWEVER, TEH CHURCH was not yet done, and more recently they recalled their missionaries.  So, we've had HUNDREDS of kids returning home.  But that's not in itself what's going to cause the problem, and it will be hard for those outside Utah to understand, but these kids are pretty much played hail the conquering hero and paraded around when they return under normal situations. 

And the idiot members are still trying to do that.  HUGE crowds waiting for these kids at the airport.  Parties once their home.  Utah's probably going to blow up in the next 2 weeks. 

As expected, our numbers of new cases had begun to decline, but are now on the rise again.  And now we've got these protest gatherings, that's going to bump everything up in a week or two again...

[Geo]

Why do they even call Satan's place of worship a 'church'? I'm sure they could've come up with a more interesting label. 'Lair' would already do.

Because the church of satan is all about pissing off christians, and calling it a church might upset more people.  They are officially atheists who just use the symbology and 'freedom of religion' to protest against (largely christian) religious control over the gubment. 

For instance, they formed the Halloween in Summer festival, specifically to coincide with the July 24th state holiday (to celebrate the state's LDS pioneers). 

Then some jerk who cared more about the Halloween than the protest aspect got involved and got it moved to June so that it wasn't competing with another holiday and it's become big business but lost the protest aspect.     So the church tried to cancel it all together, and the city stepped in to take control.

UnO, how could you!

[Rusty Edge]

Another article which frames Covid-19 as a blood infection , rather than as a viral pneumonia.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/22/coronavirus-blood-clots/?cv-campaign=4fda08e2fbca0387b958bb44bf5cc2b6&utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh

They find that asthmatic patients aren't as vulnerable as expected, but patients with hypertension and cardiovascular diseases are suddenly dying. The mechanism is unknown, but it disrupts clotting factors, but in the opposite way as Ebola. So people will suddenly die from blood clots, or gradually die from an accumulation of small blood clots in the lungs.  It also appears as complications in childbirth.

The first article I read along these lines some weeks ago suggested that the virus was stealing Iron ions from red blood cells, and that the resulting low blood O2 caused breathing problems, but it was more helpful for the ER doctors to think of it as CO poisoning or altitude sickness, rather than viral pneumonia.

[E_T]

This might be part of the reason that an Ebola Anti-Viral Medication is showing promising results   in therapies.

I don't know it you have heard, but some cats have tested positive for the Virus...

[Rusty Edge]

Yes, I've heard that. I haven't heard that it harms them yet.

[E_T]

The Lions and Tigers are having severe Respiratory distress, last that I had heard (around the time I made the above post).  I haven't looked any further.
The main problem that I am seeing, after watching a Univ of Arizona program about the 1917 Spanish Flu and how it had become such a killer (

), is the fact that it seemed to easily jump into another animal.  C-19 is believed to have come from Bats, crossed the barrier to some sort of Lizard (or something) and then into us.  Each time it makes those crosses, it mutates some.  Who's to say that it either won't cross back or maybe into some other animal, before it comes back to us at some time in the future?  This worries me...

[Rusty Edge]

Finally the USA is #1 in the world in something that is actually positive- recoveries.

Meanwhile I am very sorry to see that things must be pretty brutal in Belgium. While I have heard/read nothing in terms of news, the numbers are bad-

In terms of deaths/M population they lead the world with 622, followed by Spain with 503, Italy with 446, France with 357 and the UK with 311.

Well that's not true. The worst reported deaths/M population is San Marino with 1208 and then there is Andorra with 518. I think of them as cities rather than countries, but looking San Marino up on Wikipedia, it had a smaller population than my suburb, which is officially still classified as a "village."  I guess people hang on to tradition in both hemispheres.

How are things, Geo?

[Geo]

How are things, Geo?

Actually, in general things seem to be going in the right direction here. Curve is slowly but decidedly going down. New hospitalized cases are in the very low hundreds (hundred-two hundred/day the last couple days) compared to above mid-hundreds at the peak.
I know the deaths/M look bad for my country, but that is (even according to international press) because of the brutal honesty of how statistics are compiled here.
It seems most (if not all) other countries only count a decease as corona-related if there was a prior positive test on such a patient, and in some countries even if only deceased in hospital (I'm looking at you, Netherlands). Over here, likely Corona-related deaths are put in the tally as well. If a person died in say an elderly home where other confirmed deceases are Corona-related, they are included. Some prelimary research into excess deaths over the general mortality trend in our population seem to vindicate the statistic method used here.

All in all, I would say the rest of the world underrates the actual deathtoll of this virus in their own countries.

I think I posted it some time ago I expected a disaster was about to happen in elderly homes, but over half of the total deaths have now happened there, not in the hospitals. Sofar roughly 4,000  elder people have in effect died before their time, however short this extra time might otherwise have been. With the test program in elderly homes in full swing now, indications are that less then 5% of staff and about 15% of the residents are/were infected. And tests there are still prioritized on people showing a symptom like coughing or fever.

Government has made announcements of reducing measures. Next week all workers may go back to work, under restrictions like mouth masks/cover if the 'social distance' of 1,5 m (5 feet ) can't be guaranteed, but teleworking is still required if possible. Compulsory masks on all public transport -and infrastructure (railway stations for instance). On May 11th all shops may open, again with restrictions like number of people/square meter and masks. Mainly direct-contact professions (predominantly meant for barber shops) and horeca sector are still closed. All this is under the condition that number of new infections keeps dropping.
On a personal level, my physiotherapist takes less urgent cases again, so today I had a first session for my tennis elbow.
The company I work for seem to have found a steady supplier of mouth masks because as of today we are obliged to wear one most of the time at work (canteen is excepted). Masks were available before but most people  (me included) didn't use them. Now its compulsory.
And government plans to sent at least one fabric mask to each and every one citizen in the country. I just read the Ministry of Defense is tasked with ordering 12 million masks...

[E_T]

US has more than 1 million confirmed cases...

[E_T]

A Dog has gotten the virus

[Geo]

What's next? A wolf?

[E_T]

Over 60,000 deaths in US.  More than the number lost in the Vietnam War.

Redesovir (sp) has showed very good promise in treatment. 

[Unorthodox]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-52456180


Honest opinions please, should the police even be involved here? 

[E_T]

Maybe to just make sure that the person isn't stalking someone while wearing it...