Are you an early bird?

[Unorthodox]

In a rush this morning, no time to look for something serious for wed, but wanted to get one up quick.

Up at 4 whether I like it or not.  Normally I can't get back to sleep.  Sometimes I can get back to sleep around 6 on a weekend, and sleep till the kids wake me. 

At the same time, I can be up late, though usually end up sacrificing that for more early mornings.  My ideal schedule would be up at 4, back to bed around 1PM, up again at 3-4, and back to bed around midnight. 

[Rusty Edge]

I'm a night owl by nature.

Traditionally, my most productive hours are 10AM-10PM. I don't have a daily routine any more.
I try to make 1 AM my bed time, and I often read after that. Lately I've been having problems with my internal clock. Sometimes I can't go to sleep before 3 or 4. Then I'll wake up around 8, but either go to the bathroom and return to bed, or just roll over. Eventually I'll wake up around 11:30, or my wife will get me up.

Obviously wake up times vary according to days I have appointments and responsibilities, but I figure this thread is about  our natures.

I do not like to rise before the sun.  I'm usually off my stride until lunch when I do.

[Valka]

There have been times in my life when I've gotten up early on purpose (like the summer during my high school years when I decided to combine education with holidays). I got up at 6 am, watched University of the Air (recorded lectures from Carleton University), a 2-hour news program, and a bloc of programming that on some days included anthropology and geology documentaries.

And I was done with this by noon, so after that I indulged in The Flintstones, the afternoon movie, and my soap with absolutely no guilt at all.

However, normally I'm a night owl. I come by it honestly, as my dad is also a night owl. We are not lazy people; our brains are just wired a little differently.

I once spent 5 weeks in the hospital, and the nurses said they'd "straighten me out"... well, good luck. I hated it that they wouldn't let me sleep when it was my normal time to sleep, and when they did insist I sleep, they kept coming in to check on me and complained that "You're such a light sleeper" - well, when they kept waking me up, and gossiping at the nurses' station outside my door (one of them had a loud, cackling laugh), what did they expect?

[gwillybj]

Up at 6, sometimes 5. No sense laying there because I'm awake for the day. Sleep time is usually 10:30 - 11:00pm.

[ColdWizard]

If left to my own devices for a decent length of time, I seem to sleep 4am to noon. Otherwise I sleep earlier, wake earlier, and lose an hour on the exchange which sometimes generates an evening nap.

[Unorthodox]

Whatdayaknow, there was news on the topic.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/fashion/sleep-marriage-couples.html

I learned about my friends’ sleep problems by accident. We were having a cookout with three families not long ago, and the children were off playing by themselves. The couples sat down for an adult conversation that might otherwise have turned to Hollywood, parenting or Donald [Sleezebag], when suddenly one of the women announced she had a confession: She never got to see her husband.

She said she collapsed into bed soon after the children went to sleep, then woke up wired at 4:30 a.m., anxious about work deadlines. He came home late from his job, played with the children for a time, then went to bed after 11 p.m.

Instead of finding this situation unusual, every other person at the table had a similar story. One spouse liked to meditate in the morning, another liked to binge-watch television at night; one liked reading when the house quieted down after midnight, another liked making coffee before the house got chaotic at dawn.

uthor and television personality Bruce Feiler.

In recent years, a consensus has emerged that sleep is a critical health issue, but researchers have largely focused on individual behavior.

One area that has lagged behind is what researchers calls dyadic sleep, or sleep concordance. Sixty percent of people sleep with another person. When one person has sleep issues, both can suffer.

Certain sleep disorders, like snoring, have been shown to reduce the quality of relationships, largely because the person hearing the snoring experiences disrupted sleep. Women living with snorers, for instance, are three times as likely to report sleep problems themselves. Insomnia has also been linked to lower relationship satisfaction.

Research into couples’ sleeping patterns reveals a curious dynamic. When objective measures like brain waves or eye movements are examined, people are found to generally sleep better when they sleep by themselves than when they sleep with a bed partner.

Yet when they’re asked about sleeping alone, people say they are less satisfied.

A chief impediment to sleeping together is different preferences for what time to go to bed. As early as the 1970s, researchers began looking at the distinction between morning people and night people, often referred to as “larks” or “owls.”

Invented in 1976, the Morningness-Eveningness Questionnaire became a popular self-assessment that uses 19 questions to help determine what time of day a person’s alertness peaks.

More recent research has shown the variance is largely determined by genetics, with some input from age and gender.

Till Roenneberg, a professor of chronobiology at Ludwig-Maximilian University in Munich, studies the biological roots of sleep. He told me that each person has a sleep chronotype, an internal timing profile that is specific to that individual and can vary up to 12 hours with others.

When I asked how many different chronotypes there are, he likened them to foot size and fingerprints, meaning there is an infinite number because everyone is unique.


Instead of dividing ourselves into owls and larks, he stressed, we should be speaking of an owl-lark spectrum.

Mr. Roenneberg says the best way to determine your chronotype is to identify your preferred midpoint of sleep. To do that, calculate your average sleep duration, divide the number in two, then add the outcome to your average bedtime on free days.

If you go to bed at 11 and wake up at 6, for example, add three and a half hours to 11. Your midsleep is at 2:30. His research shows that 60 percent of the population has a midsleep from 3:30 to 5 a.m. Women tend to have earlier midpoints than men, he noted, a difference of up to two hours.

Problems arise, Mr. Roenneberg said, when there’s a disconnect between our preferred sleep times and what our personal or work lives demand of us. Mr. Roenneberg calls this “social jet lag,” which he defines as the difference between your midsleep on free days and on work days.

Over 40 percent of his research subjects have social jet lag of two hours or more. In relationships, this gap can be especially pernicious, he said, as sleep schedules become a convenient scapegoat for problems that have nothing to do with sleep.

The good news is that we can adjust our internal clocks. Researchers have found that camping resets our natural sleep time to be more in line with nature. But for most of us, who work indoors under artificial light all day and stare at screens all evening, trying to adjust for the sake of our bed mates is likely to fail, Mr. Roenneberg said.

“It will be very hard to demand of your partner to override their internal clocks in order to spend more time together,” he said. “It’s possible, but not very beneficial, I think. If you don’t sleep during your own internal timing window, you will not be as socially capable or as effective at work, and you will have somebody to blame for it, and that is your spouse.”

Also, having different sleep schedules can benefit relationships, he said. Those with babies can time-shift caring for the children, and others can schedule time to themselves.

“Especially in marriages that have gone on for a long time, I hear complaints about not being able to meet with the girlfriends enough or go drinking with the guys,” he said. “If both parties accept their differences, the late type can go out with the boys at night, and the early type can meet her girlfriends in the morning.”

What other solutions are there for couples with chronically different schedules? Heather Gunn is a psychologist and couples sleep researcher at the University of Pittsburgh who also advises patients in a sleep clinic.

She said that the most important thing she’s learned is that couples do not need to sleep at the same time in order to have a healthy relationship.

“There’s even some evidence that well-adjusted couples who have mismatched sleep schedules are actually much better at problem solving,” she said.

She advises couples who sleep at different times to make sure they find other times to connect, whether it’s the morning, the half-hour before the first partner goes to sleep, or even the weekend. And if one partner insists the other change?


“As a psychologist, I would ask why is it important that you go to bed at the same time?” she said. “My hunch is that the person feels a need for more closeness or security. We don’t innately need to go to bed at the same time; the desire usually comes from someplace else.”

Given that these problems appear to be widespread, I couldn’t help wondering whether we could try to prevent them before we end up in long-term relationships with someone on the opposite end of the owl-lark scale.

Mr. Roenneberg even told me that in the future we would be able to identify our chronotype with a simple prick of blood. Perhaps we should include this information in our dating profiles?

“Absolutely not,” he said.

“First of all, we don’t want to breed toward early types and late types, and that’s exactly what we would be doing.

“Second,” he continued, “what we need from the start is to increase our awareness of differences and tolerate them. Once we do that, we’ll realize that different sleep schedules are not marriage straining, they’re actually marriage preserving.”

hEt and I are near polar opposites on the sleep scale.  It works for us most the time.