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[Dale]

Oh, and WHY all the HATE to Civ 5??? I think Brave New World makes it really enjoyable. I was not impressed with Vanilla or Gads and Kings as much, though. those with rose colored glasses may forget that Civ 4 was okay in vanilla, Warlords was an improvement, and Beyond the Sword Rocked. Same with Civ 5. Hexes scare ya? Old school war games are best with hexes and no stacking. Panzer General did it. About time Civ broke the mold.

It's simple really.  Civ 5 takes a number of the high-level strategy concepts, and pisses on them.  For instance: combat.

Civ 5 is also a massive piss on modders and MP players.

I'll pick up BNW when it's on 75% sale and give it another shot.  You might be right that Civ 5 is good with BNW.  And please do not compare Civ 4 to Civ 5.  Civ 4 vanilla was at least enjoyable, and also a high-level strategy game.  Civ 5 vanilla was confused between strategic and tactical concepts, and not one of them really shone, they were all mediocre.

[Buster's Uncle]

Something I should mention - I've gotten some criticism for posting nicknames for other forums in the OP.  [shrugs]  I'm a nicknamer, and that is all there is to be made of it.  I did call my own beloved forum Dung Mountain, to be fair, and the other labels, if mean, are still pretty accurate (as anyone who knows the fora in question can attest), though I doubt anyone but Dale got the Frog Pond joke.

It was said in a spirit of fun, not attack.  I could have gotten uglier if I'd intended such, (except for about AC2, which is actually pretty flawless.   )

I come not to badmouth Caesar, but to encourage discussion of him.  That is all.