A neverending story...

[Metaliturtle]

I'll catch up to where you are in it if you'd like

[Buster's Uncle]

[Metaliturtle]

Still wouldn't fit right there.

[Buster's Uncle]

I dunno - it's about the best way to offer the fast food w/o offending, and the door is already open.  Valka's issue was almost entirely about the central joke/metaphor soiling her lolcat interest - and that ship's done sailed, no worry.

But start a different thread if you like, and I won't heckle this time (as hard).

[Buster's Uncle]

Well, the Supreme Court made a major decision the other day, and I sure didn't have a dog in that fight - but I'm astonished and delighted that a conservative court did the right thing.  I know I totally didn't give away a certain leaning on the issue in reply #4, and my apologies for not warning y'all to brace for a shock.

The rant I was not awake enough to tackle yet the other morning?  Here; I don't owe anyone my private thoughts running in harness with anyone else's, my agreement, or my approval, however much society demands it.  I have the right to my own prejudices, for all that I don't want them.  I'm more interested in understanding everyone whether or not I conclude that I approve.  And alternate sexualities?  Well, I'm personally a bit of a prude.  Whatever; screw you if you judge me for that.  I get unhappy when people with mainstream sexual modes are too publically bold, under that "what would Mamma think?" rule of thumb I've mentioned.  I don't need a lot of details about what you like, necessarily.  If it ain't my problem, I've learned to not go looking to MAKE it my problem.  Fearing, hating, just bad-mouthing whatever you find other, is a very human thing to do - but something we as a species need to be working to grow out of.  The fearing/hating?  You a bad person if you let those eat you up, not because you owe anyone your thoughts, but because those are not conducive to learning the real truth(s) - and because they are hard to keep from showing and letting them lead you in words and/or behavior is rude.  We all need to avoid rudeness, for as Kurt Vonnegut Jr. said in the preface to Jailbird: "Love may fail, but courtesy shall prevail."

Fair deal for everybody is what I say.  People all ought to be cool to each other - if not awesome, and loving is probably too much to ask.  But polite and considerate and fair deals all around.  It's simple to say, and nothing is ever simple in this messed-up world of ours - but let's cut the bull; they're citizens, and this was right.


Thoughts?

[vonbach]

.Funny because it's true...

This one is just too easy. This is why the neo-liberalism theology doesn't work. Theres no breaks to it.
Theres always some new oppressed class that has to be saved. And its the common folk that suffers.
Whats next bestiality? Pedophilia? It never ends. God's law or chaos.

[Buster's Uncle]

I covered this this over two months ago, if you love America.

Caesar ain't gonna come into your church (synagogue, mosque, kingdom hall, whatever) and make your preacher (rabbi, etc.) do no marriages he don't want to.  People frame it as a religious issue, and are moderately stupid to do so - it has everything to do with what a lot of people/cultures find Other and distasteful, and very little to do with religion.

AND, for anyone who gives a poop about American Principals, framing it as religious is inherently a logical fallacy and an own goal; by Caesar's own rules, he may not legislate according to religious dictates.  Reckon that's where the conservative swing vote came from...

You do love America, don't you?

[Valka]

So this thread is about same-sex marriage?

Canada's had that for over 10 years. The legislation was tabled in the House of Commons by the Prime Minister of that time, Paul Martin, who happens to be Roman Catholic. When a couple of bishops/archbishops (not sure) started in on him about excommunication if he did this, he very politely told them that his religion is personal and he leaves it at home instead of bringing it into the House.

Fast-forward 10 years, and other than the discussion of SSM becoming legal in the U.S. and that bizarre stuff about Kim Davis, it's not something that most people here get too excited about.

It was kinda funny, though, seeing some Americans so adamantly against it that they ranted, "I'm gonna move to Canada!"  *


*No intent to offend anyone here who may have strong opinions either way... I just don't understand why it's anyone's business who complete strangers want to marry. As long as it's not incestuous, forced marriage, or one of those illegal polygamous things with underage girls, let people live their lives.

[vonbach]

*No intent to offend anyone here who may have strong opinions either way... I just don't understand why it's anyone's business who complete strangers want to marry. As long as it's not incestuous, forced marriage, or one of those illegal polygamous things with underage girls, let people live their lives.

"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society." Aristotle
The problem with this attitude is with no standards thing just grow more and more degenerate.

[Valka]

 

The people I know who are either in same-sex marriages or other relationships are not "degenerates" in any way.

[vonbach]

The people I know who are either in same-sex marriages or other relationships are not "degenerates" in any way.

Heh. Yes they are. Whats next after "gay marriage?" Hmm? Bestiality? Ten year olds having sex changes?
This is the problem with Liberal theology. The whole point of this game is proving your moral
superiority by "signaling." The problem is theres always one more issue to demonstrate your superiority
so it never ends.

STATUS SIGNALLING
Expressing a moral stance or engaging in moralistic behavior primarily to demonstrate that you are superior to most people and fit for acceptance in liberal social circles. Usually shortened to simply "Signalling."

[Buster's Uncle]

[Valka]

@vonbach: You are denigrating good people you don't even know. And now I'm done with interacting with you (what a pity this forum lacks a certain useful feature other forums have).

[vonbach]

Hey, its true. Its why people get sick of leftists.
Another reason is advocating for policies that ruin
the areas they don't live in and the lives of people they don't socialize with.

good people

And you get to decide that do you? Not God?

[Buster's Uncle]

Your opinions would be a lot less offensive if you'd leave off with the insults - they're lies, and that's not okay even if you believe them.