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Offline Green1

Re: Bill and Hillary Share Romantic Moment
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2012, 07:09:19 AM »
As a psych tech, I have problem with labels and what "society" expects. Many of our greatests geniuses in history had this same issue. It is a sad thing that current "systems" weed out folks because "autonomy" and "initiative" are too desirable of traits. That, and the man wants you to be there on time. Of course, there are meds. But, you sacrifice the manic state of creativity for a dull existance.

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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2012, 07:13:40 AM »
Which... by all means... do NOT abruptly stop taking psych meds... that can SUCK and lead you to folks like me. BUT... always ask a doctor if it is possible to eventually get off these horrible meds....

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Re: Bill and Hillary Share Romantic Moment
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2012, 12:46:38 PM »
No meds.  I've always coped with it the hard way.

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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2012, 01:03:34 PM »
Mom's got a hell of a lot better after the hysterectomy.  Or maybe it's the hormone therapy side effect.  She's more apathetic depressed than murderous depressed.  Miracle we kids survived.  My claustrophobia is a direct response to her tendency to suffocate us till we passed out...I was the preferred target even back then.  Though, we all got the various household items broken over our heads. 

Real fun when she was studying how to dispose of bodies "for a story she was writing". 

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Re: Bill and Hillary Share Romantic Moment
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2012, 01:10:57 PM »
Yeah, and apathetic depressed isn't as bad to suffer from, in my experience though I imagine it's a lot more prone to last.  Being angry is so tiring.

To the exent she has any control of/influence on her condition, try to get her to read The Tao of Pooh.  Those ideas are just the thing for a mood disorder case coping optimally.

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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2012, 03:32:31 PM »
On that note, since this is going WAY off topic, if a doctor is needed, stick with one that actually talk with patients. One of the things that really pisses me off about psych is that you have two tons of these docs that just give a questionaire and read nurse's notes then just write scripts. All fine and good if you just want drugs, but it does not get anyone better.

Excersise and sunlight do wonders. I think the vast majority of folks that end up on ward (barring incurable issues like Schitzophrenia, mental retardation, and various dementias) could have avoided that though wieghtlifting, biking, or yoga. The best doc I have ever worked with said if he could put it in a pill, he would. But the docs would not make money that way. Big Medicine WANTS you to have to pay to be "normal" for the rest of your life. Plus, it would step on the toes of the occupational therapists who will not do crud unless you got medicaid/medicare part B or damn good insurance. I say be active and be happy. Easier said than done for us computer nerds who love sitting for hours staring at units on a screen and playing armchair emporer.

Uno, reading is great, but get your mom into a yoga class or something. Even if she is obese, i have seen yoga do wonders for the mind and body for many folks.

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Re: Bill and Hillary Share Romantic Moment
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2012, 03:39:46 PM »
It sounds like she's got serious chemical thing going that good health won't help much - he wasn't kidding about her breaking things over heads.

And you know, you're talking perfectly good sense about exercise being a treatment -- for a condition that inherently sabotages any attempt by sufferers to help themselves.  I knew that about exersise.  I've always known.  I still have even more trouble starting it and keeping it up than I would if my moods were more even -which is considerable trouble, or everyone would be exercising to be pretty and healthy and live a long time.

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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2012, 03:58:17 PM »
For violent folks, the first thing you have to do is medicate them temporarily so they will be more pliable to retraining. You establish pain to that nueral pathway to block it off. Usually, the wiring towards inappropriate behavor is reinforced where according to that persons viewpoint, it is perfectly fine even though in reality it is not.

Consider a behavior, or in this case, a habit, like a thread. Alone, a thread breaks because nothing supports it. Wrap hundreds of threads around each other, you have a habit. Thousands of threads, you have a literal rope - or character. There are good ropes and nasty ones.

Excersise actually produces chemicals if you can get over the initial soreness and the fact you do not have enough "threads" wrapped towards that behavior. Once it gets rolling, though, you will not be able to stop!

Uno's mom I would imagine is an elder. One thing to watch for is there is a dementia called Lewey Body Dementia, related to the infamous Alzhiemers that folks get very irrational and violent in the early stages. No cure, either. In every major city there are wards with hundreds of these folks being fed and made sure they do not hurt themselves until they die.

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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2012, 04:01:10 PM »
What's going to be 'interesting' is when grandma dies (any day now, 98 cancer not being treated on purpose).  Otherwise they have mom dialed in and stable with whatever hormones from her wierdo disease (physical one).  Or maybe she's just better with no kids at home.

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Re: Bill and Hillary Share Romantic Moment
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2012, 04:05:58 PM »
Have you ever been able to take any steps to secure whatever's left of your inheritance from her?  -You know your folks will continue to throw away before they let you have...

And Green, I've sustained weightlifting, my exercise of choice, for up to a year-and-a-half straight in the last decade - it never takes forever, despite what you say.  I look great, feel great, I'm happy I'm doing it - but something happens to break the routine, and getting restarted takes forever, if then.

 

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