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Can I haz firebomb?
« on: March 07, 2014, 07:05:20 PM »
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Cat Firebombs Featured in 500-Year-Old German War Manual
LiveScience.com
by Megan Gannon, News Editor  4 hours ago



An illustrated cat with a bomb attached to its back found in a 16th century German manuscript.



In the same century that Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel and Shakespeare wrote "Richard III," German artillery experts were trying to master the art of strapping bombs to cats.

A 16th-century treatise on warfare and weapons includes illustrations of cats and doves wearing what look like early jetpacks. The idea was that these animal bombers could set fire to cities or castles that were otherwise inaccessible to human soldiers.

Mitch Fraas, a researcher at the University of Pennsylvania Libraries, compiled these images, which derive from a text called "Buch von den probierten Künsten" by a German artillery master named Franz Helm of Cologne. [Top 10 Animal Recruits in War]

According to Fraas' translation, some of Helm's instructions read as follows: "Create a small sack like a fire-arrow … if you would like to get at a town or castle, seek to obtain a cat from that place. And bind the sack to the back of the cat, ignite it, let it glow well and thereafter let the cat go, so it runs to the nearest castle or town, and out of fear it thinks to hide itself where it ends up in barn hay or straw it will be ignited."

Helm's treatise dates to around 1530 and it circulated widely in manuscript form until it was formally published in 1625. Though Fraas said he has seen about seven different illustrations and one printed version of these "cat ballistics," he told Live Science that, in all likelihood, this bizarre scheme was probably never used.

The concept, however, may not be all that usual in the history of war.



In the 16th century, a German artillery master named Franz Helm proposed using cats to deliver explosives.


"There are definitely examples in the 20th century of dogs and other animals being used for grisly purposes," Fraas said. During World War II, the Soviets trained bomb-strapped dogs to act like mobile mines, and the U.S. military tried to get experimental bat bombs off the ground to set fire to Japanese buildings.

But the tradition of using (or at least wanting to use) animals as vessels for explosives may be much older. Fraas noted that a biblical passage in the Old Testament's Book of Judges mentions Samson attaching torches to the tails of 300 foxes to set the Philistines' crops ablaze.

In a blog entry, Fraas also pointed out a passage in a Russian text known as the Primary Chronicle detailing the leader Olga of Kiev's alleged use of war pigeons in the 10th century: "Olga requested three pigeons and three sparrows from each household. Upon their receipt, her men attached rags dipped in sulphur to the feet of each bird. When the birds returned to their nests, they lit the city on fire and the Derevlians perished in their homes. Olga's vengeance was now complete."

And since the pictures of the rocket cats have started circulating around the Internet, Fraas has been alerted to even more examples of animal ballistics. Apparently there are several instances of "fire animals" in early Chinese treatises, including an image of an ox with a burning basket attached to it.
http://news.yahoo.com/cat-firebombs-featured-500-old-german-war-manual-141538693.html

Offline Geo

Re: Can I haz firebomb?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2014, 08:21:18 PM »
I'd say a mere 15th century bombard could achieve the same goal with less trouble? And in earlier times a ballista or catapult of sorts?

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Re: Can I haz firebomb?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2014, 08:47:09 PM »
That probably has to do with why it never caught on...  That, and the difficulty of aiming a kitteh.

Offline JarlWolf

Re: Can I haz firebomb?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2014, 09:53:13 AM »
Or even coercing it. Dogs you can train, and are fairly loyal. (I don't agree with using animals as suicide weapons, or people for that matter either- just going to put that out there.)

But Cats? Cats are jerks, they don't listen to anybody  ;lol


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Offline Geo

Re: Can I haz firebomb?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2014, 01:32:53 PM »
But Cats? Cats are jerks, they don't listen to anybody  ;lol

Don't let Valka hear ya! ;deidre; ;)

OTOH, reverse psychology? Sapper to cat: "bring this stuff right to the commander's tent! No, you stupid cat, not into the enemy stronghold!"

Offline JarlWolf

Re: Can I haz firebomb?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2014, 07:31:49 PM »
It's less so that they are defiant of you, more of just not caring  ;lol ;lol ;lol  :danc:


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Offline Valka

Re: Can I haz firebomb?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2014, 02:16:47 AM »
But Cats? Cats are jerks, they don't listen to anybody  ;lol

Don't let Valka hear ya! ;deidre; ;)

OTOH, reverse psychology? Sapper to cat: "bring this stuff right to the commander's tent! No, you stupid cat, not into the enemy stronghold!"
Valka has heard of this, both here and on CFC (somebody thought it would be an "amusing" thing to send me via a Visitor's Message).

I'm not amused, and I mean this seriously. It's an utterly obscene concept.

Offline JarlWolf

Re: Can I haz firebomb?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2014, 05:24:14 AM »
What, the notion of cats listening or the concept of firebombs? I think they are both obscene  ;lol ;lol

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Offline Valka

Re: Can I haz firebomb?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2014, 05:51:22 AM »
The idea of using cats as weapons like that. It would be like strapping a bomb on a 3-year-old human child and getting it to walk into a crowd of people you wanted to kill. To me both concepts are utterly obscene.

 

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