Valjiir

[Geo]

...And, it being Valjiir, they're wearing no pants.  -Kilkakon would love that part.

Won't harm as long as its only a buste showing pose.

[Buster's Uncle]

Mylochka?  That there's a second to the motion...

[Geo]

No, it isn't! 

[Buster's Uncle]

Is Spock's 'buste' or Sulu's you're so anxious to see?

[Geo]

Valjiir's?

[Buster's Uncle]

I think the challenge with those two girls is getting them to wear clothes in the first place...

[Valka]

Jilla doesn't mind wearing clothes... as long as they're sleeveless.

(I do actually find it a bit strange that married Vulcan women wouldn't wear dresses with sleeves... they must not have to worry about sunburn or the Vulcan equivalent of mosquitoes, which are the two main reasons that I not only wear sleeved tops in summer, but if I'm going out, they have to be long sleeves!)

[Buster's Uncle]

I rather assumed that Vulcans, being desert-adapted, cover up, not for protection from the environment, but because touch telepaths have an easier time of it if they minimize casual/accidental skin contact...

[Valka]

Wouldn't it be easier to minimize such contact if they wore sleeves?

[Buster's Uncle]

Yyyup.  For sure.

[Buster's Uncle]

-Oh it just hit me - you meant Iindians with that sleeveless remark.  I don't know enough about them and their empathic powers to comment intelligently.

Vulcans DO tend to cover up pretty thoroughly, usually only head and hands exposed.  I got the idea about not liking casual touches from a passing thought Gene Roddenberry put into Kirk's head when he met Xon in the novelization of TMP, which both is almost cannon, being Roddenberry's novelization of TMP, and makes a lot of sense, besides.  The only purely cannonical exception that comes to my mind is at Spock's wedding-thing, which is probably down to lingering pre-Reformation costume/traditions - the reserve about touching, I think, partly having to do with Surakian training and the natural reserve it surely fosters.

[Buster's Uncle]

Betcha T'Pau is Spock's gramma or something.


KROYka!


Nobody likes Stonn.

[Valka]

What I'm going by is one of the stories where Sulu and Jilla are on shore leave and he offers to buy her a dress. They go window-shopping, and she keeps refusing one after another, for various reasons. She explicitly states that it's improper for her to wear dresses "not sleeveless." When Sulu points out that her uniform has sleeves, she says that's different - it's a uniform. But off-duty, if she's going to wear a dress, it has to be sleeveless.

Remember, this is AU Trek, and doesn't necessarily follow all the established canon we saw on TV.

[Buster's Uncle]

Yah.  I'm only talking about Vulcans.

BTW, Sarek wasn't at Spock's bar mitzvah/wedding for reasons too obvious to bother going into.  Amanda wasn't there because she lives with the Ambassador to the Federation, probably on Earth, and nobody involved got a lot of notice when Spock showed up in orbit after all.  She'd have definitely cussed out Sarek and gone if she'd been on Vulcan, or her pig-headed son had called her a day or two in advance.  But Vulcans get quieter and stubborner -from embarrassment- when they're being illogical and emotional - which both Sarek and Spock were at that time.  Everybody knew it might happen about that time, but didn't tell the human lady.  Sarek got yelled at anyway, I'm sure, when she found out.

[Valjiir1]

Jilla doesn't mind wearing clothes... as long as they're sleeveless.

(I do actually find it a bit strange that married Vulcan women wouldn't wear dresses with sleeves... they must not have to worry about sunburn or the Vulcan equivalent of mosquitoes, which are the two main reasons that I not only wear sleeved tops in summer, but if I'm going out, they have to be long sleeves!)

Jilla's clothing preferences are Indiian, not Vulcan.  Before Selar died and while on Vulcan she dressed as Vulcan wives do, which does include long sleeves; see Lady Amanda's clothing.  However, once in Fleet, her civilian clothing reverted to the Indiian style.  Ah, the whims of fashion