Star Wars VII-IX, what do you think?

[Unorthodox]

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[Buster's Uncle]

Tony Soprano as Greedo was really something.  And everything with Christopher Walken was comedy gold.

-Because everything with Christopher Walken IS comedy gold.

[Buster's Uncle]

‘Star Wars’: R2-D2 Officially Confirmed to Appear In ‘Episode VII’
Variety
By Variety Staff 1 hour ago
 


Last week, LucasFilm debuted a new image of director J.J. Abrams and producer Kathleen Kennedy standing around the famed blue and white astromech droid R2-D2.

Well, on Tuesday Disney and LucasFilm confirmed that the beloved robot will indeed appear in the upcoming “Star Wars: Episode VII,” while also providing further information about R2-D2′s creative team.

Lee Towersey and Oliver Steeples, the two men standing behind Abrams and Kennedy, are officially part of the Creature Effects team for “Star Wars: Episode VII” and have a rather interesting story to tell.

Originally members of the worldwide R2-D2 Builders Club, a fanclub group dedicating to building robots from the “Star Wars” movies, the duo were hired by Disney and LucasFilm after impressing Kennedy this past summer in Germany.

“She posed for pictures with us, looked at all the droids we’d built and was very complimentary,” said Steeples, who finished his first R2-D2 in 2007, after 10 years of collecting parts and researching. “I mentioned that the R2-D2 Builders in the UK were available if required, as a semi-joke. When I was contacted to work on the film by [executive producer] Jason McGatlin, it was on her recommendation.”

Both men had worked on “Star Wars”-themed commercials in the U.K. but neither had ever dreamed of working on the actual film.

“It’s fascinating to see the whole process of filmmaking as Star Wars: Episode VII grows around us,” says Towersey. “I feel very privileged to be in the working environment I’m in at the moment. It’s something I will never take for granted.”

“It’s a dream come true,” adds Steeples, “and I hope I can live up to the expectations of the thousands of R2-D2 Builders around the world, let alone the millions of Star Wars fans.”

Disney and LucasFilm’s “Star Wars: Episode VII” is currently in pre-production at Pinewood Studios in the U.K. and will begin shooting in the Spring.


http://movies.yahoo.com/news/star-wars-r2-d2-appear-upcoming-sequel-203814459.html

[JarlWolf]

Oh noes!  I forgot what this thread was for!


I think

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George Lucas has undermined his series again

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IN 3D!

Not to derail the subject, but I HATE the whole "3D" craze that has been gripping movies now a days. You are forced to buy these stupid wasteful glasses at a theater these days and the quality of the movie is negligible with them. It's barely a difference and a total scam.

I'd wish they just kept to normal films... or at least allow a person to re-use the glasses. I am quite frankly tired and fed up with that crap, it's why I just watch movies at home now...


Onto Star Wars... I kind of fell off the boat of Star Wars a number of years ago, wasn't heavily vested with it, and I find 4 to be overrated. That may be because it's the one I see the most of out of all of them, and I've just kind of been tuned out of it.

On the new film... not too sure of my thoughts. Again, my opinion of it is not too important given I don't have that much commitment to it. I am more for more realistic Sci-fi's or ones that are less of space fantasy/space opera and more gritty. Star Wars to me seems more like a ye olde fantasy story then something truly sci fi. I actually think I read a fantasy conversion of Star Wars once before, someone took the plot of the first...1-3 I think and maybe even 4, didn't get that far regardless, and put it in a fantasy world.

Star Trek I watched TNG, liked it, didn't stick to it after TNG. The first with Kirk was alright, but I like Picard better: That's just my opinion of course. I just found Kirk was too reckless to be a captain at times.

The more recent movie was watchable to me, but... the special effects made me cringe rather then be amazed. I just found it too bright, it wasn't that it was too loud and big, it was more that it looked like over exposed film shot by guys who don't know how to operate lighting. And it just hurt my eyes for the most part.

[Valka]

I'm relieved to see there are SOME people who don't care for the Abrams way of doing movies... especially the crap that's currently masquerading as Star Trek.

As for Star Wars... as far as I'm concerned, there's not much point in continuing the movies, plot-wise. All the Evil Bad Guys are dead, Yoda's dead, our Original Heroes should be raising their children/grandchildren, Luke should be training more Jedi...

I don't read the novels, so I don't have a clue what the writers had happening after Return of the Jedi. And if JJ Abrams is making any decisions, I don't want to know.

[Buster's Uncle]

Agreed.

[Unorthodox]

As for Star Wars... as far as I'm concerned, there's not much point in continuing the movies, plot-wise. All the Evil Bad Guys are dead

Which is a huge plot hole if you accept that.  By ROTJ's own reality, the fleet surrounding the second death star was more than enough to mop the floor with the puny offensive the rebels had put together.  They DIDN'T because the emperor wanted to make an example of the death star.  Officially, that fleet retreated at the death of the emperor, but was far from destroyed.  Makes no sense that the entire forces of the empire were in the one location, either. 

Disarray, maybe, complete and total victory over the whole empire?  Hardly.  And even if you accept that the empire is done, you have a whole galaxy now without any form of government.  Remnants of the military machine would be grasping for power, many systems without any kind of law enforcement, absolute chaos.

, Yoda's dead, our Original Heroes should be raising their children/grandchildren, Luke should be training more Jedi...

I don't read the novels, so I don't have a clue what the writers had happening after Return of the Jedi. And if JJ Abrams is making any decisions, I don't want to know.

I've read a very few.  Few make much sense.  But, the children/grandchildren/more Jedi tend to be predominant themes. 

[Valka]

Yeah, there's a power vacuum. But honestly, to me the IV-VI movies make a complete story. I don't care what happened before, and unless at least one of the Luke/Leia/Han triumvirate is in the next movie, I really can't be bothered to care what happens next.

It's like the Dragonlance fantasy series, which was based on a series of AD&D modules: Dragons of Autumn Twilight makes a decent standalone book, the two sequels make a satisfying trilogy, and the rest of it is gravy and fans can take or leave whichever parts they want of the dozens more books and gaming modules that were published over the ensuing 25+ years.

[Unorthodox]

Yeah, there's a power vacuum. But honestly, to me the IV-VI movies make a complete story. I don't care what happened before, and unless at least one of the Luke/Leia/Han triumvirate is in the next movie, I really can't be bothered to care what happens next.

The original trilogy does present a good second half of the story, and it does make a fine ending, as it was always Anakin/Vader's story.  The prequels just don't do the beginning much justice (ironically, the cartoons are better than the movie on this point).  Personally, I don't really care much as Vader is SURE not in it. 

It's like the Dragonlance fantasy series, which was based on a series of AD&D modules: Dragons of Autumn Twilight makes a decent standalone book, the two sequels make a satisfying trilogy, and the rest of it is gravy and fans can take or leave whichever parts they want of the dozens more books and gaming modules that were published over the ensuing 25+ years.

See, I think it would be a disservice to not read the Twins trilogy there.  Outside of those core books it gets really wildly varying, with the only other book I cared for being Legend of Huma. 

[Valka]

It's like the Dragonlance fantasy series, which was based on a series of AD&D modules: Dragons of Autumn Twilight makes a decent standalone book, the two sequels make a satisfying trilogy, and the rest of it is gravy and fans can take or leave whichever parts they want of the dozens more books and gaming modules that were published over the ensuing 25+ years.

See, I think it would be a disservice to not read the Twins trilogy there.  Outside of those core books it gets really wildly varying, with the only other book I cared for being Legend of Huma.

I agree - the Twins trilogy is more adult-fare Dragonlance - Tika and Caramon having marital problems, Caramon suffering from depression, Raistlin fully committed to Takhisis and having further dark ambitions, the issue of good, evil, and moral grey areas with Crysania and the Priest King of Istar...

And then many years later, they added another generation with Dragons of Summer Flame... yep, there's a lot that's wonderful about Dragonlance, and those seven books are what I personally consider to be the core of the series (eight, if you count the "Second Generation" anthology). But my point was that if people don't want to do all that reading, they can just stop with Dragons of Autumn Twilight, since it's a self-contained story all by itself, just like with Star Wars. The story would have worked if there'd never have been any sequels of any kind at all.

[Buster's Uncle]

it was always Anakin/Vader's story.

Bullcrap.  In the '70s, Lucas was telling interviewers it was about the life of Luke - he was to get born by the end of the first movie, die in his fifties in the 12th.  The lie revision you're credulously regurgitating this time goes back to around the time Sith came out.

Dude, you're so much better than believing everything anyone at Lucasfilm shovels.

[Buster's Uncle]

P.S.  AAAAAAAA!  (The prequels were obviously about Darth Skywalker; it's that lucasesque "always" that gets me.)

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Does it occur to anyone, BTW, that the two trilogies in place, one being about the father, the next the son, form a structure that dictates that the sequels be about the next generation?










-Or the Holy Ghost...

[Unorthodox]

it was always Anakin/Vader's story.

Bullcrap.  In the '70s, Lucas was telling interviewers it was about the life of Luke - he was to get born by the end of the first movie, die in his fifties in the 12th.  The lie revision you're credulously regurgitating this time goes back to around the time Sith came out.

Dude, you're so much better than believing everything anyone at Lucasfilm shovels.

Right...and what, we're supposed to have 2 movies of Luke moisture farming in the middle there? 

You're quoting/remembering Gary Kurtz in '70's interviews, not Lucas, about the plan FOR THE FOLLOW ON TRILOGY (VII, VIII, IX).  Focus on Luke, his finding his (Non Leia) sister, becoming a kickass Jedi, and ultimately confronting the emperor in IX.  Obviously a few things changed with Revenge. 

1-6 was always the Anakin arch, following the same vein of early Lancelot tales (who does go mad/evil and kill a lot of knights), with Luke playing the part of Galahad to bring him back, but his old wounds from what drove him mad finally killing him.  (Vader's suit failing/Lancelot's wound to his side)  The end of 6 was supposed to be the 'oh [poop], Vader wasn't the big evil' cliffhanger. 

1-3, the rise and fall of Anakin/Lancelot.  4-6, Luke/Galahads quest to restore the kingdom/galaxy, brings his dad back to the light just before he dies. 

The Battle of Endor even shadows the Battle of Camlann, with Anakin taking a dual role to mimick Arthur's last battle.  (though they had been setting up Luke pretty hard to take that second role, what with yoda/merlin and all)

Now, whether it would have been better to have 3 movies setting up a one on one with the emperor in IX or the present compressed version is open to debate.   

[Unorthodox]

Or, ya know, I was like 5 back then.  If I'm wrong, show me. 

[Buster's Uncle]

And I was in my teens, heard it all a million times, but it was 35 years ago and I wasn't taking notes.


No, obviously Luke was just going to lay around crapping himself in the background for a few prequels while his dad had adventures and then got murdered by the traitor Darth Vader.  Remember that they weren't the same person yet, and it logically couldn't have begun as the story of a dead character or the villain who killed him.

-But if you've seen Star Wars and still want to spew that 'always' koolaide, that a movie about Luke was about the bad guy instead, I have nothing to say to you.  There is no always, and your post is invalid.