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Offline Geo

Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #435 on: February 13, 2021, 10:47:55 PM »
In short, a hypocrite. ;nod

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #436 on: February 13, 2021, 10:52:25 PM »
They will PAY for voting Nazi. ;hypocrite

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #437 on: February 14, 2021, 07:53:03 AM »
What's next? A sit-in at the RNC HQ in DC?

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #438 on: February 15, 2021, 09:02:26 PM »
Elections, that's what's next.

Offline Unorthodox

Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #439 on: February 15, 2021, 09:44:03 PM »
Elections, that's what's next.

Star Wars never went away.  Just sayin.  Changed names a time or three, but never went away. 

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #440 on: February 16, 2021, 12:04:06 AM »
But does it work?


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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #442 on: February 16, 2021, 04:37:06 AM »
But does it work?

Offline Geo

Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #443 on: February 16, 2021, 02:12:25 PM »
But does it work?


The good news is, the North-Koreans haven't put it to the test. Yet... ;nuke;

Offline Unorthodox

Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #444 on: February 16, 2021, 08:19:56 PM »
But does it work?


The good news is, the North-Koreans haven't put it to the test. Yet... ;nuke;

Pretty much.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #445 on: February 17, 2021, 08:13:47 AM »
But does it work?

I'd read some about this, but it was cool to see the launch video!

My sense of it is that it works in good conditions. That usually means that the defensive missiles outnumber the offensive ones. If there's another destroyer off the coast of "NK" that can engage when the missile is low and slow, if the destroyer or cruiser mid ocean can fire 2 missiles, if there's a destroyer off of the coast of the target city, if there's an Army THAD battery in the city, if there's a patriot battery in the city. A second shot improves the odds.

Conversely, if there are multiple ICBMS, if they have multiple warheads and decoys, the offensive missiles have the numerical advantage, and one warhead can ruin your day.

A mid-ocean intercept is done at/after apex, when the warhead is slower, but after it is separated enough from the booster so as not to confuse the radar guiding the impactor. It helps if the destroyer is roughly under the path of the ICBM, it offers a bigger window.

So with enough ships carrying enough missiles in the right places, it would work against a country with limited means, such as North Korea or Iran. But against Russia or China, deterrence is the only thing that works, and too many anti-missile systems is kind of destabilizing, or so I hear. It's a balancing act.

 

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Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #446 on: February 17, 2021, 12:59:12 PM »
But does it work?
If there's another destroyer off the coast of "NK" that can engage when the missile is low and slow,
:read:

AAAACtually  this is the most difficult phase of an ICBM to target.  So much so that it is still in theoretical future technologies according to the above website.  While it IS low and slow, it is also accelerating rapidly and has the most wide range of where it could be going, so harder to predict where it will be. 

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if there's a destroyer off of the coast of the target city, if there's an Army THAD battery in the city, if there's a patriot battery in the city. A second shot improves the odds.

This would be the 3rd phase of an ICBM, and theoretically easy to predict where the warhead will be...but there is an incredible difficulty here in that the thing is REALLY hauling ass at this point. 

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Conversely, if there are multiple ICBMS, if they have multiple warheads and decoys, the offensive missiles have the numerical advantage, and one warhead can ruin your day.

A mid-ocean intercept is done at/after apex, when the warhead is slower, but after it is separated enough from the booster so as not to confuse the radar guiding the impactor. It helps if the destroyer is roughly under the path of the ICBM, it offers a bigger window.

Ah yes, the hollywood concept of how the things work, mid ocean...ICBMs essentially put up a satellite that starts dropping bombs on targets. 

If you want a good primer on how it should work:


Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #447 on: February 17, 2021, 06:50:03 PM »
Thanks for the clarification.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #448 on: April 15, 2021, 01:48:24 AM »
Speaking of politics-
As much as I'd like to see Matt Gaetz prosecuted for sexual misconduct, I hope that there are prosecutions coming for the so called "Sedition Caucus"- senators Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz, and Ron Johnson prominent among them. They should have been censured by now, if Impeachment is pointless.

More than ever I think they should abolish the filibuster and make DC and Puerto Rico states.


Offline Geo

Re: Politics 2021
« Reply #449 on: April 15, 2021, 02:58:15 PM »
More than ever I think they should abolish the filibuster and make DC and Puerto Rico states.


I can imagine Democrats would be quite happy to get extra potential voices in Congress, but is there a majority of Puerto Ricans eager to so to speak 'join the Union'?

 

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