Corona Virus

[Rusty Edge]

In short, a high(er) mortality of people on vents are just an indication of in general more health issues before those people were even attached to the machine.
Comes down to a lacking healthcare system to me.

I know this may sound snobbish, but it is also a true assesment.

It doesn't sound snobbish. Every country has it's own approach to both healthcare and emergency management. A pandemic is going to point out flaws.  I hope we get something better on the other side of it.

I think there are other issues in play in the USA which are going to make mortality worse here. Diet, which gives us a higher share of obesity, heart disease and diabetes.  Then there's the matter of vice, whether it is opiate abuse, or the smoking alternative "vaping." 

[Rusty Edge]

Then there's the anecdotal from Italy. The mayor of Rome estimates that their deaths so far are underreported by a factor of 3 or 4. The reason being that they had old people dying alone this winter, and didn't recognize Covid-19 when they found the bodies simply because they'd never seen it before. So the cause of death would be pneumonia, or natural causes, for example.

I saw something similar yesterday about the city of New York. Previously the emergency services would collect an average of 20-25 bodies found dead at home/day from all causes. Now they typically collect about 200 bodies/day. Understandably so, the coroner's office is slammed, and doesn't have the testing materials anyway, because corpses aren't a priority. These bodies aren't officially in the Corona count.

IMHO this undercount is possibly worse than we think because they may not be finding all of the bodies if it's true that loss of sense of smell is an early symptom of infection, and if evictions are lax for non-payment of rent due to public/gov pressure. Besides that it's normal for people to not be seen as they shelter in place, so nobody calls for a welfare check.

[Rusty Edge]

On a personal note, Corvid-19 has probably infected somebody I know. He's a 70something in Pennsylvania, and there are confirmed cases in the county. Fever, nausea, aches, can't taste or smell his food. No cough or test results yet. 

[Unorthodox]

Corvid-19

That's a murder...

[Buster's Uncle]

12 Monkeys, 19 Crows

[E_T]

Looks like African Amaricans are about 1/3 more likely to have major complications, including death, from this....

[Rusty Edge]

Corvid-19

That's a murder...

Thank you for that chuckle, I needed it today!

[Unorthodox]

Looks like African Amaricans are about 1/3 more likely to have major complications, including death, from this....

The question really is whether this is indicative of economic status/availability of proper healthcare or some other factor. 

[Rusty Edge]

There's a lot in play , I think.

*According to a Congresswoman from Illinois, because  Africa was slow to report any cases compared to Eurasia, a rumor started that African Americans were resistant to this virus. Personally I think that promoting an anti-malarial drug as a miracle cure re-enforced that misconception.

* Some say mistrust of the federal government contributes to the problem.

* It's theorized that a large share of African Americans work in "essential jobs" and must go in to work rather than shelter at home. Also, a large share of them commute by mass transit rather than private vehicle.

So possibly there are fewer precautions taken and more exposure.

[E_T]

Convalescent Plasma Therapy is looking good for possible treatment for worse cases.

And Osceola County (Kissimmee and Disney Village as well as other places near Disney) is now requiring, by Law, the mandatory requirement of wearing a mask when out in the public.  Other Florida Counties are looking at similar things.

[Rusty Edge]

There's a lot in play , I think.

*According to a Congresswoman from Illinois, because  Africa was slow to report any cases compared to Eurasia, a rumor started that African Americans were resistant to this virus. Personally I think that promoting an anti-malarial drug as a miracle cure re-enforced that misconception.

* Some say mistrust of the federal government contributes to the problem.

* It's theorized that a large share of African Americans work in "essential jobs" and must go in to work rather than shelter at home. Also, a large share of them commute by mass transit rather than private vehicle.

So possibly there are fewer precautions taken and more exposure.

Saw an AMA spokesperson address this, citing misinformation, essential jobs, and thirdly, a higher incidence of diabetes and hypertension.

[Rusty Edge]

America currently leads in the following categories-
total cases
new cases
total deaths
new deaths
active cases
serious, critical
total tests

Currently 6th in total recovered.
Currently in top 20 for cases/1M pop
 

[Rusty Edge]

On a positive note, the guy I know in PA is feeling better.

[Geo]

We've had our first Corona riot this weekend in a suburb of our capital.
A youngster tried to run from an identity check with his motor bike, managed to evade one patrol but collided with another oncoming patrol while overtaking a van. He died in the crash. His friends/gang started rioting, and sofar a hundred of them were arrested.
And several hundred violations of non-essential commuting and gathering were fined. That's €250 for each transgression. A number of them repeating offenders.
I better make sure I have my employers' letter with me when going to work tomorrow.

[E_T]

Well, with income and sales down, they have to collect revenue somehow...