US Presidential Contenders

[Rusty Edge]

Yes, I'm beginning to think that it's time for that change. In the information age, we don't have to worry about a candidate on horseback, or one of his supporters on horseback carrying handills will skip the mountains and plains because of low voter density. It's time for a conservative in New York and a Liberal in Utah to have the same voice in a presidential election as if they both lived in Ohio.

After the [Sleezebag] primary win, I'm thinking about a ranked voting system, too.

[Rusty Edge]

Well, Marvin Bush has endorsed Johnson/Weld... and Bill Kristol is starting to consider them, bilogging -

"The best thing Kristol had to say was that "a vote for [Johnson] is a symbolic vote for the Constitution and against both demagogic authoritarianism and demagogic nanny statism."

[Buster's Uncle]

Who's Marvin Bush?

[Rusty Edge]

THIS IS NOT AN ONION ARTICLE  ( although with my glasses, I see that it's not new )

-idUSKCN0YN35S]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-[Sleezebag]-idUSKCN0YN35S

Politics  |  Thu Jun 2, 2016 9:56am EDT
Related:  World,  Election 2016,  Politics,  China 

North Korea says [Sleezebag] isn't screwy at all, a wise choice for president

SEOUL  |  By Jack Kim


North Korea has backed presumptive U.S. Republican nominee Donald [Sleezebag], with a propaganda website praising him as "a prescient presidential candidate" who can liberate Americans living under daily fear of nuclear attack by the North.

A column carried on Tuesday by DPRK Today, one of the reclusive and dynastic state's mouthpieces, described [Sleezebag] as a "wise politician" and the right choice for U.S. voters in the Nov. 8 U.S. presidential election.

It described his most likely Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, as "thick-headed Hillary" over her proposal to apply the Iran model of wide sanctions to resolve the nuclear weapons issue on the Korean peninsula.

[Sleezebag] instead has told Reuters he was prepared to talk to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un to try to stop Pyongyang's nuclear program, and that China should also help solve the problem.

North Korea, known officially as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), is under U.N. sanctions over its past nuclear tests. South Korea and the United States say its calls for dialogue are meaningless until it takes steps to end its nuclear ambitions.

DPRK Today also said [Sleezebag]'s suggestion that the United States should pull its troops from South Korea until Seoul pays more was the way to achieve Korean unification.

"It turns out that [Sleezebag] is not the rough-talking, screwy, ignorant candidate they say he is, but is actually a wise politician and a prescient presidential candidate," said the column, written by a China-based Korean scholar identified as Han Yong Muk.
 
DPRK Today is among a handful of news sites run by the isolated North, although its content is not always handled by the main state-run media.

It said promising to resolve issues on the Korean peninsula through "negotiations and not war" was the best option for America, which it said is "living every minute and second on pins and needles in fear of a nuclear strike" by North Korea.
 
The North has for years called for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from the South as the first step toward peace on the Korean peninsula and demanded Washington sign a peace treaty to replace the truce that ended the 1950-53 Korean War.

Its frequently strident rhetoric also often threatens nuclear strikes against South Korea and the United States.

[Rusty Edge]

Who's Marvin Bush?

"Marvin Pierce Bush (born October 22, 1956) is the youngest son of U.S. President George H. W. Bush and Barbara Bush (née Pierce), and brother of President George W. Bush, John (Jeb), Neil and Dorothy."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Bush

[Buster's Uncle]

I guess it's probably a good sign that I never heard of him, then - I don't think much of his brothers, and it hints that at least he's stayed out of trouble...

[Spacy]

-russia-dnc-emails-000000865.html]https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-[Sleezebag]-russia-dnc-emails-000000865.html

Trumpster asks Russia to see if they can send the 30K emails Clinton deleted.  LOL

[Buster's Uncle]

Always a good campaigning move to engage in public behavior verging on treason.  -Maybe that one will actually bite him on the butt proper, Putin not being what you'd call real popular with the lunks who'd even look at that con man.

[Lorizael]

Maybe that one will actually bite him on the butt proper...

How many times have we collectively said that this election?

[Buster's Uncle]

Oh Lord; my record on predicting anything to do with the Pig is even worse than my record during the Cheney Bund or predicting how low Cheney wouldn't dare stoop - beyond pathetic.

(My record on predicting what Bernie will do is pretty good, on the other hand - I'm looking for him to actually go out and actively campaign for Mrs. Clinton with as serious a commitment of time and effort as one can hope for from a man his age -and running for president is tiring at any age, and you know he REALLY wants to go home for a year right now- who risks having his brain explode from doing so...)

[Buster's Uncle]

So I'm getting a lot of my news from Mylochka, who's been holing up in the guest room and watching convention primetime stuff through, which I don't have the patience to do but in bit and pieces and then only if Momma hasn't found something better to watch.

She tells me Bloomberg may have been to highlight of the night.  "I'm a New Yorker and I know a con when I hear one" or something like that.

The previous night, she says may have been that video of Hilary and the little girls - which I'm told Mrs. Clinton blew the performance of her lines in a very typical awkward way, but it REALLY worked anyway and gave the gurlz watching the serious feels.  As the Tick said about 20 years ago "Groovy all-girl world now!"

-If you don't believe me that such symbolic things matter -and many of you have heard this one from me before repeatedly- google Nichelle Nichols, Martin Luther King, Woopie Goldberg and LeVar Burton together and read what the latter two have always said about how important Lt. Uhura being there was to them as children.  -You can't take away from Hilary what she's already managed or that it really matters.  The little girls will always remember.

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The convention thus far has, as a whole, astonished me in the best way.  The Democratic party has been the form circular firing squads party since before I was old enough to vote, they've been playing the enemy's game and losing ever since, and though what you see on TV at a national convention is theater and bullcrap and nothing but, it's the Republicans who always have been better at putting on a show -if a dumb one- since Lee Atwater came along, and it's wonderful and fills my body with smiles to see the Democrats doing something right for a change.  -They had every reason to have a spectacular circular firing squad drama meltdown with the collusion emails thing sprung with such exquisite timing, but no, they moved on with the show, have handled the Bernie-heads laying on the floor screaming well -Leon Panetta got flustered by the chanting, but I thought the nervous energy actually improved the rest of his speech- and THIS was the GROWUPS show compared to last week.

I'd like to know who's coordinating everything this week - whomever it is, is gooood.

[Buster's Uncle]

Incidentally, I had to quote the girlpower and Lt. Uhura passage above in the France thread in Civ 6 because Catherine de Medici and the relevance - trying to encourage the PC debate aspect to OT this thread w/ gaming talk rather than sliming a gaming thread with politics...

I don't have to tell y'all how nerds are, and what's being said far and wide about picking her to lead the French civ pretty much writes itself - it's all connected and utterly relevant to this central theme of Mrs. Clinton's presidential campaigning -I gather the real central reason she went into politics as herself in the first place, that certainly being what she claims- and, eh, it's all connected and would be funny on some conceptual level to OT the OTF with gaming talk, and have at it if anyone wants to get into all the connections...

[Buster's Uncle]

I see some democrats are saying Logan Act today - I hope they don't overplay that hand, as they may well be right, but obviously politically-motivated legal actions are extremely poor form.  I may not deplore it aimed at the Clintons and then applaud it for being aimed at the clearly-guilty worst person in the world...

Logan Act: Democrats Accuse Donald [Sleezebag] of Violating Anti-Collusion Law With Russia Email Comments

Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack and Sens. Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Claire McCaskill D-Mo., said [Sleezebag] may have broken the law by telling Russia it should find Hillary Clinton's deleted emails.

https://www.facebook.com/topic/Logan-Act/111302372254219?source=wpfrt&position=1&trqid=6312462574252575329

[Buster's Uncle]

I wonder if Mr. Sanders has ever read Dune.

I was thinking last night while the Bernie-heads were acting out on Leon Panetta that he must feel a bit like Paul - he started a thing where they love him -not all him but what he stood for- so much that they don't obey him...

[Rusty Edge]

Here's an extended video interview with the Libertarian Vice Presidential candidate Bill Weld.

https://www.facebook.com/Reason.Magazine/videos/vb.17548474116/10153749763394117/?type=2&theater