Author Topic: Psi Combat: Why 3-2 on land and 1-1 elsewhere? (Read 2666 times)

BFG · « **on:** February 11, 2013, 09:38:18 pm »

Purely for curiosity's sake...why do you suppose Firaxis set Psi land combat so that the attacker has a 3:2 inherent advantage, but no such advantage in sea or air combat? It seems a bit...odd...to me.

ete · « **Reply #1 on:** February 11, 2013, 09:56:20 pm »

Sea movement rates are much higher compared to vision than land, so there's much more randomness when it comes to who gets to attack first. Giving an advantage to whoever spotted the foe first is less good than encouraging attacks on land natives. Sea units also have more different movement rates (especially since damage changes movement rates much more often), and so fleeing slower ones can be chased down. Lastly, on land with roads the 3:2 advantage often lets infantry put up a decent fight despite the hurry penalty, which does not happen at sea.

BFG · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2013, 06:37:07 pm »

Well, when you put it like that it makes perfect sense

Though correct me if I'm wrong - native units are not subject to a Hurry penalty, are they?

ete · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2013, 07:07:07 pm »

That is correct.

Yitzi · « **Reply #4 on:** February 14, 2013, 12:10:07 pm »

Also, it goes by the defender; land units are supposed to be better at defending than air or sea units, to compensate for their weaker movement.

Kilkakon · « **Reply #5 on:** February 19, 2013, 01:50:58 am »

*may have thrown PSI combat to 3-2 everywhere in his mod... ducks from all the bricks flying at him*

ete · « **Reply #6 on:** February 19, 2013, 11:26:44 am »

eh, giving attackers more bonuses at sea is no bad thing. If attacking is the best defense you'll get much more dynamic naval wars, and non-native already have much stronger naval weapons than shields, so it's more leveling the playing field. My explanation was just the likely design reasons for changing land to 3-2.

Earthmichael · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2013, 05:39:09 am »

I thought the reason for the 3-2 on land was because the land defenders get to pick up defensive terrain bonuses?

Pickly · « **Reply #8 on:** March 04, 2013, 01:08:03 am »

I always thought it was the faster sea movement as well, and that the fact of weapons generally being stronger on ships normally was just an oversight. (Navy units in general seem to have weaker design/game mechanics in civ games, probably due to some combination of disinterest and difficulty fitting good ones in with the rest of the game mechanics, this is something I'd try to adjust in future mods.)