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Real-Life Barbie? Model Created Look to Spread Beliefs
LiveScience.com
Benjamin Radford, LiveScience Bad Science Columnist 3 hours ago
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Russian model Valeria Lukyanova transformed herself into what appears to be a real-life Barbie doll
A young Russian model who reportedly spent a half-million dollars to turn herself into a real-life Barbie doll is indeed quite real and not the result of a computer-generated image.
Even so, many of the stories written about her are not the real deal.
In 2012, photos of this supposed real-life Barbie named Valeria Lukyanovashocked many around the world. Thousands of photos of Lukyanova showed her porcelain face with flawless skin, glassy blue eyes, a blank stare and small waist, which were apparently the result of dozens of surgeries (including, allegedly, having ribs removed).
When Lukyanova first appeared, no one knew quite what to make of her — or her appearance. Some people thought she was a computer-generated product of a viral video hoax. Others pointed to her as a horrific example of the pursuit of beauty gone awry, the sad consequence of a society in which girls are encouraged to view thin fashion models and Barbie dolls as ideals. She is quite real, though many of the stories about her are not.
A real-life Barbie?
Contrary to many headlines, there's no evidence that Lukyanovais actually trying to emulate the world's most popular doll; the word "Barbie" does not appear anywhere onLukyanova's website nor in any of the available material attributed to her. Furthermore, a Google search of images of Lukyanova reveals plenty of airbrushed glamour shots, but conspicuously absent are photos of her with her supposed idol, Barbie. Surely if this aspiring model's claim to fame were centered on trying to achieve Barbie's supposedly idealized proportions, she would have taken many photos of her with the doll she's trying to look like.
A recent short documentary film, "Space Barbie," provides new insight into her motives. Lukyanova doesn't mind comparisons to Barbie, but states: "Even though people call me Barbie, I never tried to look like a doll. I just like everything beautiful, feminine and refined. It just so happens that dolls are based on the image of refined girls."
So what does explain her strange appearance? It's amazing what can be done with flattering lighting, hours of makeup and low-resolution video. Some images of her may be digitally enhanced, but despite a few YouTube videos to the contrary, there is little or no evidence that Lukyanova has undergone extensive plastic surgery, either to look like Barbie or for any other reason. It's possible, though there are no before-and-after photos or videos that you would expect to see for such a publicized radical transformation. Surely any plastic surgeon would be eager to claim credit for such remarkable work on such a famous and controversial client.
It's also important to remember that people come in all shapes and sizes, and Lukyanova's figure and features, though striking, are within normal human variation. Critics concerned about the influence of Barbie dolls on girls and women often claim that 99.99 percent of the women in the world don't look like Barbie. While that may be true, statistically that means there are thousands of women whose natural body shape (perhaps with a little help) comes pretty close. And it's not surprising that one of those women — especially one with Lukyanova's self-promotional skills — would be noticed and become an Internet sensation.
The fact is that Lukyanova never claimed to want to look like Barbie — that was simply a convenient (and inaccurate) news handle for journalists and headline writers to use. Though the fascination with Lukyanova's (beautiful or creepy, take your pick) appearance is understandable, it is only skin deep. To understand Lukyanova's motivations you must look below the surface.
'Out-of-body' traveler
Lukyanova has made no secret of her motivation for fame, and it has nothing to do with Barbie. She claims to be an extraterrestrial spirit, and in "Space Barbie" explains: "The aim of my life is to come to this planet to help people realize that it is necessary to move from the role of the 'human consumer' to the role of 'human demi-god.' Everything is love, love is God. I am you, and you are me."
While this may sound far-out, it is actually a fairly typical example of New Age philosophy, preaching that humans are on the wrong path with war and pollution, and that humankind can be saved through the a cosmic, karmic consciousness shift toward universal love. The only thing that makes this situation unusual is the appearance of the person delivering the message — and it's no accident.
Lukyanova notes that "I'm a lecturer on the subject of out-of-body travel, and I lead seminars on spiritual subjects. My PR is only based on my physical appearance. Unfortunately spiritual ideas will never get so much attention. If a nun starts talking about spirituality, would anyone notice her? No, no one will. But if a beautiful, inspiring young woman starts talking about it, many people will start thinking. So I use my appearance to promote my spiritual ideas. It works perfectly well."
Indeed it does. Lukyanova is neither a media-obsessed woman trying to fit some social ideal of female perfection, nor a Photoshopped hoax. Her ideas may be far-out, but when it comes to finding ways to spread her New Age message, she's crazy like a fox.
http://news.yahoo.com/real-life-barbie-model-created-look-spread-beliefs-123622110.html (http://news.yahoo.com/real-life-barbie-model-created-look-spread-beliefs-123622110.html)
It really struck me, when I started seeing stories about this chick last year, that there was a lot of crappy journalism going on - a cursory innerwebs search and poking around her website demonstrated that she was a flying saucer freak, and that that deeply informed the way she presented herself. It's a 'flying saucer people are super advanced and will come to save us all' idea of perfection. If you search around, you'll find similar looks sported by lots of people into new age flying saucer religions - all spandex space uniforms, and made up into a plastic sort of perfection.
Even this article presents it as simple self-promotion -a reasonable assumption when dealing with a model/new age singer/guru- but I think that's only part of the deal with her.
Her singing isn't bad, BTW, if you like that kind of thing (which you really shouldn't).
And it's very crap journalism to include a single picture which doesn't even show her 'barbie' eyes (makeup appliances), let alone her amazingly tiny waist.
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Just a skinny girl with a boob job, a lot of makeup, and a strange religious belief, if you ask me. No shooping or rib-removal need apply.
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Edit: This thread has suffered a great deal of link-rot - if you skip to the bottom of p.25 and onward, you'll find attached pics still there...
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Inexplicably, I keep seeing lurkers looking at this thread.
I mean, explicably if they're not bots, but even then, I'd love to know how they're finding a thread six months buried...
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-Incidentally, I'd like to mention that Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri is an awesome game, and that this forum welcomes new members and treats them right.
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...This is the second-most viewed thread in the Our researchers have made a breakthrough! forum, and the other is 2.5 years older, to this one's 6 months...
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Yeah, you keem bumping it. ;lol
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This was going on before February, when it was six-months buried. And go look how many pages back articles posted 2 Feb. are now.
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Three week buried, now at the bottom of page 11, and I've been three lurkers here today - on a day I was AFK a lot...
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It's not that Ms. Lukyanova isn't interesting - aside from her arresting looks, her belief set only adds to the natural fascination. It's just that I'm dying of curiosity whether this thread is turning up on search engines, or someone has posted a link somewhere, or what. The lurkers are an international crowd, and they've been all over this thread today...
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It's the pictures, dummy. :P
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No, if your tastes run to skinny at all, she's smokin' hot. I get that, not being blind. You can't go wrong with big eyes and a small waist.
But how are they finding this when it's 11 pages back? When it was buried for six months? It's not random browsing, even allowing for lingering long over the bikini shots.
I should go find more bikini shots, BTW.
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This one enlarges when you click on it, BTW.
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Definitely worth doing.
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But how are they finding this when it's 11 pages back? When it was buried for six months? It's not random browsing, even allowing for lingering long over the bikini shots.
Theez peeps come from outside the forum? Like in, googling her pics and going straight to the thread from their search page?
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That's my best guess --- but can she be THAT much of a hot topic? I mean, surely all these pics -100% of which are linked from somewhere else- are easier to find somewhere else. Is she that big a 'net superstar? The only thing unique here at all is my remarks, which aren't really hard enough on her flying saucer religion to piss fans/coreligionists off too badly, I hope, nor all sensitive and supportive to draw them for that.
[shrugs] Much of my interest in Valaria Lukyanova is just the Barbie angle 'cause Mylochka's into Barbie, and a lot of the rest is pretty girl pictures. The religion part is spice. What's directing random people/fans/detractors/whoever here, though?
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What the heck. I really enjoy looking at her.
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Perhaps you and Jarlwolf should trade places? :D
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She's married. I'd overlook the racism, maybe, but husbands that aren't me are a buzzkill.
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It is alleged that this comic is about Ms. Lukyanova:
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Anyone care to provide a translation?
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Another side of Ukraine: The woman known as the ‘Human Barbie Doll’
washingtonpost.com
By Terrence McCoy April 9 at 2:12 am
Sifting through Valeria Lukyanova’s social media presence, which spills across thousands of YouTube videos, photographs and tweets, a realization strikes. This isn’t a joke. This is real. This is a real person. And though everything about her — hair, waistline, eyes, lips — looks exactly like a Barbie doll, she’s deadly serious in her self-promotion.
Let’s start with the makeup. According to online videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjDgBismuk) – each of which has thousands if not millions of clicks – the routine begins with Clarins SPF 10 foundation. Lukyanova slathers it on her face until it turns a chalky white. Next up are eyebrows, which she silently, slowly darkens. She paints on eyeshadow, first sapphire, then charcoal. Then, her signature: fake contact lenses.
She looks into the camera lens. And this face looks back.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/440983853721583616/pTYZS73Q_normal.jpeg)Valeria Lukyanova @BarbieHumana_
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К большому сожалению я уже дома, но надеюсь, что не на долго , хотя дел тут много накопилось(
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Who is this woman, and is she okay?
Yes and no. For Lukyanova, a Barbie doll is the perfect embodiment of beauty. And regardless of what one thinks of her — and many think the worst (http://time.com/53732/human-ken-and-human-barbie-destroying-our-girlhood-dreams-one-interview-at-a-time/) – she more than looks the part. But how Lukyanova got to Barbie is a story of sadness, according to this GQ profile (http://www.gq.com/women/photos/201404/valeria-lukyanova-human-barbie-doll?currentPage=2&printable=true), which provides a glimpse into a side of Ukraine that’s rarely seen.
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私は、ビーチを愛するように :3
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Lukyanova was born in 1985 in Tiraspol, Moldova, home to many who long for the former Soviet republic to rejoin Russia. As a child, Lukyanova was enamored of dolls and mysticism. At age 13, she dyed her hair platinum. Then, at 16, she moved to Odessa, Ukraine.
“Whatever ideas of beauty and identity she had had before,” GQ’s Michael Idov writes, “Odessa would warp further.”
Lukyanova, who accelerated her transformation in 2010 according to her Facebook profile, is far from alone. For some impoverished women in Odessa, Ukrainian feminist Anna Hutsol says, much rides on attracting a rich Westerner. The Web sites of businesses known as “marriage agencies” promise Western men traditional wives.
“It is considered that a Russian woman can become a perfect wife,” one such site says. “When a husband comes home in the evening he finds his house clean, the food prepared for him and a beautiful loving woman playing with children. Isn’t it a dream?”
The women appear fragile, docile. They look exactly like Lukyanova.
“It has everything to do with the desperate desire to get married,” Hutsol told GQ. “A woman here is brought up for two things, marriage and motherhood. Valeria is the ultimate demonstration of what a Ukrainian woman is willing to do to herself. I bet she is exactly what men dream about.”
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Я люблю это платье !!!
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The radical appearance Lukyanova has adopted is matched by her extremist ideology. ”Everyone wants a slim figure,” she told GQ. “Everyone gets breasts done. Everyone fixes up their face if it’s not ideal, you know? Everyone strives for the golden mean. It’s global now.”
To Lukyanova, the arch nemesis of beauty is “race-mixing.”
“Ethnicities are mixing now, so there’s degeneration, and it didn’t used to be like that,” she said. ”Remember how many beautiful women there were in the 1950s and 1960s, without any surgery? And now, thanks to degeneration, we have this. I love the Nordic image myself. I have white skin; I am a Nordic type.”
She’s gotten loads of attention recently — both good and bad — which appears to be the whole point. The stranger her antics, the closer she mimics Barbie, the more celebrity she obtains.
Earlier this year, for example, she told reporters she had started a diet called “breatharianism,” adherents of which claim they can survive purely on light and air.
Lukyanova also calls herself a “teacher at the School of Out-of-Body Travel,” according to an interview she gave V Magazine. ”It’s an international school in which our instructors show students how to leave their physical body and travel in their spiritual body, where you can visit any place on the planet and in the universe. I know that this is the future of mankind and that it has huge potential. Hidden reserves will be tapped soon.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/04/09/another-side-of-ukraine-the-woman-known-as-the-human-barbie-doll/?tid=hp_mm (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/04/09/another-side-of-ukraine-the-woman-known-as-the-human-barbie-doll/?tid=hp_mm)
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"This Is Not a Barbie Doll. This Is an Actual Human Being."
Not so long ago, images of a young girl washed over the Internet. She was impossibly blonde and impossibly shaped, and surely it was all a masterly work of Photoshop. Right? Michael Idov travels to meet with Eastern Bloc Barbie herself and discovers that her world is far more bizarre and twisted than anything in the photos
GQ
By Michael Idov April 2014
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Per Barbie's instructions, I enter Kamasutra, a brightly lit Ukrainian version of an Indian restaurant. Imagine a blind date, with all the attendant "Does she look like her picture?" jitters, multiplied by the queasy fear that she does look like her picture. If you saw the pictures I saw, you would understand. You would know that meeting Valeria Lukyanova is the closest you will come to an alien encounter.
Her improbable looks—the Margaret Keane peepers, the head quizzically cocked like a sunflower too heavy for its stem, the plasticky skin and wasp waist—reached the West when her self-shot home videos began drawing gawkers to YouTube. The Western media were quick to dub her the "Human Barbie," but Valeria was hardly the first Homo sapiens to willingly make herself look like a doll—she wasn't even the first to earn the moniker: Some tabloid-damaged Brit laid claim to it a few years back. Still, where others had dabbled, she went for broke. However odd her own view of perfection, she appeared to have achieved it.
Valeria wasn't in on the Barbie branding. She preferred to call herself Amatue, a name she claimed had appeared to her in a dream. Most of the Amatue videos were intended to be some sort of transcendental self-help lectures. I'm not sure. Like everyone, I was staring too hard at her image on-screen to actually listen. Was she real—in the sense of existing in the three-dimensional world—or a Photoshop experiment run amok?
Well, Valeria exists, all right. She is seated in the back of the restaurant in her classic pose, preternaturally upright, head cocked. By her side sits sidekick Olga "Dominika" Oleynik, one of Lukyanova's several doll-like apostles. I walk through the restaurant, which is vaguely porny, like everything else in Odessa, and Barbie gets closer and realer with every step. Her brand-new hair extensions, the color of Chardonnay, hang straight down, reaching her nonexistent hips. Her mouth is frozen in a vacant half-smile; the teeth are small and almost translucent. She's holding a handbag shaped like a lantern. A one-eyed smiling-skull pin perches on her sky blue top, pushed to the side by the veritable shelf of silicone around which her whole body seems arranged. In the flesh—the little of it that she hasn't whittled away with what she says is exercise and diet—Valeria looks almost exactly like Barbie. There might be some Loretta Lux-style postproduction to her photos, sure, but it's not crucial. This is live. This is happening.
"Hello," she says in Russian, remaining perfectly still. Her mouth, like in a cheap cartoon, is the only part of her that moves. The eyes, the staring eyes, are the scariest. Part of what I'm seeing is an optical effect brought about by makeup (there is essentially an eye drawn around each eye), but even after I make the mental correction for it, Valeria's eyes remain chillingly large. The Internet rumor mill claims she has had her eyelids trimmed to achieve this look, which seems unlikely and sounds nightmarish. Evolution has taught us to think of big eyes as beautiful—it's a so-called neotenous feature, implying youth—but tweak that delicate scale just a little and you've got a wraith, or an insect. A living Barbie is automatically an Uncanny Valley Girl. Her beauty, though I hesitate to use the term, is pitched at the exact precipice where the male gaze curdles in on itself. Her features are the features we men playfully ascribe to ideal women; it's how we draw them in manga and comics and video games. Except we don't expect them to comply with this oppressive fantasy so fully. As a result, she almost throws our idea of a supervixen back in our face.
For a while, I just look, which would normally be rude. Here, though, the act of looking feels like an experiment conducted on me. Am I supposed to be attracted, to be repulsed, or to ponder the sexism of that dichotomy?
Compared with Valeria, Olga is just a human in a lot of makeup, no more or less augmented than any Miami Beach body, wearing some sort of purple Power Ranger outfit (self-designed, she later explains). I instantly understand why Valeria insists on having her around. She seems to be there for scale, to subtly underscore Valeria's ethereality.
We order food, in a manner of speaking. Kamasutra being an Indian restaurant, there are the usual three chutneys on the table—mint, tamarind, and chile. Valeria gets a carrot juice, then proceeds to upend all three chutneys into it, swirl the result with her straw, and drink. This gag-inducing mix, she explains, is her dinner; she is on an all-liquid diet these days. I don't quite know where to go from there, so I ask about her nails, which feature a complicated pointillist design of pink, lavender, and turquoise. "This is a fractal pattern from the twenty-first dimension," she explains matter-of-factly. "It took the longest time for the nail artist to get it right. It came to me in a dream."
"Just like your name, Amatue," I add.
"Yes."
When seated across the table from a living Barbie and stuck for topics, by all means go for collegiate [nonsense]. "But Amatue seems to be all about the Eastern philosophy of reincarnation," I say. "And the beauty that you embody is very Western. American, even."
Valeria grows pensive, which in her case means rolling her eyes slightly upward without changing anything else about her face. "I wouldn't say so. Everyone wants a slim figure. Everyone gets breasts done. Everyone fixes up their face if it's not ideal, you know? Everyone strives for the golden mean. It's global now."
"But that's a relatively new thing," I reply. "The ideal of beauty used to be different."
"That's because of the race-mixing."
If I had a glass of multi-chutney carrot-juice mix before me, I'd do a bright orange spit take.
"For example, a Russian marries an Armenian," Valeria elaborates helpfully. "They have a kid, a cute girl, but she has her dad's nose. She goes and files it down a little, and it's all good. Ethnicities are mixing now, so there's degeneration, and it didn't used to be like that. Remember how many beautiful women there were in the 1950s and 1960s, without any surgery? And now, thanks to degeneration, we have this. I love the Nordic image myself. I have white skin; I am a Nordic type—perhaps a little Eastern Baltic, but closer to Nordic."
I feel like checking my watch. We've gone from nails to eugenics in about two minutes flat.
I realize that just like everyone reading about Human Barbie, I had had a simple narrative prepared in my head: A small-town girl grows up obsessed with dolls, etc. Instead, I get a racist space alien.
Valeria innocently daubs her face with powder. "I have combination skin," she explains. "I get shiny within twenty minutes indoors." In another minute, the last of her dinner goes up the plastic straw.
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The future Barbie was born nowhere near Malibu. Valeria hails from Tiraspol, a gloomy city in Europe's poorest country, Moldova. Valeria remembers both her Siberian-born grandfather and her father as very strict and began to rebel at the usual age of 13. Stage one involved dyeing her hair, which is naturally a low-key shade of brown. Valeria went for the goth look first—about the farthest you could get from Barbie. She wore all-black clothes to accentuate her very white skin. Kids at school began to tease her. Look, a witch! At 15, traumatized by the name-calling, she doubled down: bracelets with sharp two-inch spikes, artificial fangs. She was dismissed from a school choir for standing bolt upright when the singers were instructed to sway; in different circumstances, this budding nonconformism could have brought her straight into [ladyparts, sissy]Riot.
Instead, she began modeling, small-time stuff, and learned to apply makeup and hair dye in increasingly theatrical ways. Valeria was less interested in attracting men than in repelling them: "A dude would try to talk to me on the street and I'd be like—" she switches to a raspy basso—" 'Oh, honey, aren't I glad I had that operation.' " Another time, a guy tried grabbing her by the hand and she semi-accidentally cut him with her bracelet spike.
At age 16, Valeria moved to Odessa, the famous Black Sea port in the south of Ukraine. Whatever ideas of beauty and identity she had had before, Odessa would warp further. The city fizzes with sex, but not in the fun way of, say, Barcelona or even Moscow. Sex is an industry here, and sometimes, amid the scuffed nineteenth-century splendor of its seaside boulevards, it feels like the only industry left. Hundreds of "marriage agencies," devoted to finding Western husbands for girls from all over Ukraine, operate here. Their websites, in halting English, promise the customer the kind of femininity the West has supposedly lost: fragile, pliable, submissive. Fully posable. Odessa girls—often beautiful, often model beautiful—don't just dress to impress. They dress to attract the right kind of attention, pre-rebuff the local losers, and thwart ruthless competition all at once. "It has everything to do with the desperate desire to get married," explains Ukrainian feminist Anna Hutsol, the founding member of the radical group Femen. "A woman here is brought up for two things, marriage and motherhood. Valeria is the ultimate demonstration of what a Ukrainian woman is willing to do to herself. I bet she is exactly what men dream about."
Online, in Facebook pictures and on the many Ukrainian sites and message boards devoted to hating on Valeria, you can watch that dream evolve. Arranged by year, the photos tell the story of a transformation all the more thrilling because you know the ending. Here she is on some guy's lap, different-looking nose, flatter chest—but the glassy doll stare and the tilted head are there, in beta, being tested out. It's like a superhero-origin story. And then, the spider-bite moment: going blonde.
Within a month of dyeing her hair platinum, she caught the eye of Dmitry, the son of one of her father's closest friends. Dmitry was a rarity: a wealthy local. A construction mogul, he had erected some of Odessa's largest hotels. After the two got together, Valeria's metamorphosis picked up pace. The breast implants, the only surgery she will cop to, appeared in the photos soon after. The Barbification was complete.
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Lukyanova, after going blonde; The evolution: testing out her vacant gaze; swimming with newly added flotation.
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Valeria informs me that we're going to a movie theater in a nearby mall. Walking the dark Odessa downtown with the Human Barbie flips on all my protective and fearful circuits at once. Everyone looks. Leather-jacketed youths stare heavily, meaningfully. Kids stare, which is somehow worse. Women stare, too. But here's the thing—other women's looks are largely approving. "Your waist is so amaaazing," coos the plain brunette ticket taker. Valeria's waist is basically a sock of skin around her spinal cord.
She said we were going to see "five-dimensional movies" that play in a kind of indoor roller-coaster imitator. Seats list and rumble in time with the action, and whenever possible a water mist spritzes you from below the screen. Valeria and Olga take a long time thoughtfully browsing through the movies, most of which they have seen, and pick three. We bump and shake our way through a heavy-metal-scored dinosaur attack, a supernatural haunted house, and a sci-fi flight sequence that includes a detour into a giant worm's stomach (water-spritz time). Afterward, Valeria takes a shine to a particular wall of the theater lobby—it goes well with her outfit—so Olga, the Beta Barbie, photographs her against it. The ticket taker watches them from her booth, transfixed.
We walk through the mall, maneuvering around clusters of children out with their parents. I begin to wonder whether a nuclear family—the ostensible endgame of the Odessa bride—is in the cards for Valeria and Olga. I carefully broach the subject.
"Oh God, no!" both women exclaim in unison. "It's unacceptable to me," says Valeria. "The very idea of having children brings out this deep revulsion in me."
"It's so boring, I'd rather die," chimes in Olga.
The topic has clearly shaken something loose in Valeria. In her view, expressed in a staccato rant, parenting is the pinnacle of selfishness. "Most people have children to fulfill their own ambitions, not to give anything," she says. "They don't think about what they can give this child, what they can teach her. They just try to shape her according to some weird script—whatever they couldn't do in life, like becoming a writer or a doctor. Or some woman who's almost 30 and thinks no one needs her, she says, 'Oh, I'll have a kid. He will love me and become my reason to live.' And then this kid becomes a soccer ball she and her boyfriend will kick back and forth.
"I'd rather die from torture," she concludes, "because the worst thing in the world is to have a family lifestyle."
You know, I can't help saying, that last part sounds almost feminist.
"I'm against feminism," Valeria says proudly. "But what would you keep the children for? So they can get you a glass of water when you're on your deathbed?"
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Snake charmers: Valeria (left) displays impressive serpent-handling skills with one of her acolytes, Olga “Dominika” Oleynik.
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It's Valentine's day in Odessa, and half the city walks around with flowers and red balloons. Strip clubs and marriage agencies are hawking discounts. A steak house called SteakHouse, a prime foreigner pickup spot, fills with the standard Ukrainian combos of beautiful women and old men.
Valeria says she is too busy to meet me today. On her Valentine's Day schedule: a salon called Angel of a Genius, to freshen up those fractal nail patterns from the twenty-first dimension, which will take about three hours, then the gym for a couple of hours of hydrotherapy (i.e., a bath), then the airport. Tonight she is guesting on a Turkish talk show in Istanbul. Dmitry is coming too, on his own dime.
Using the salon's bizarre name, I decide to find it and ambush Barbie there. I walk into what turns out to be an ordinary white-walled space and find Valeria seated between a morose fiftysomething lady and a chestnut-haired teen, both getting traditional French nails in our own three dimensions. Valeria is only about 60 percent Barbie today; it even takes me a second to pick her out among the clientele. She is dressed in a gray cashmere sweater and a pair of snug jeans, her makeup pale and minimal. Her eyes seem smaller. A pink-faced Ukrainian master is seated opposite her, deftly working a nail file. Valeria's frail hand atop hers looks like E.T. high-fiving Hulk Hogan.
If she is surprised or unhappy to see me, she doesn't let on. I ask her about the Turkish TV show: Is this part of a larger plan for international expansion? "I tend to cut off anything I don't need," Valeria says. "The next step is to cut off Ukraine entirely, because all I get here is [poop]. Why waste myself on this?"
She doesn't see herself in Western Europe, either, but maybe the United States "or Mexico." (She and Olga are "obsessed" with the pyramids there.) Earlier in the year, the duo visited the States to gauge the level of showbiz interest; the visit itself was reported by everyone from V Magazine to Gawker, and Valeria enjoyed a nice feud with America's own "Human Ken," Justin Jedlica, but none of it generated any Hollywood offers. For now, Valeria says, she will get the Amatue brand out by conducting New Age workshops in Moscow. The first one had long been announced on her website, then moved, then canceled. She's also working on a New Age opera, because why not. Whatever works.
And the amazing part is, it works, her thing. It does. In a place that expects a woman to prepare for marriage and motherhood "from the moment she is given her first baby doll as an infant," as Hutsol has put it, Valeria has gotten a degree of power, a degree of control, and a major say in her own destiny. It could be that the world and I have misjudged the Human Barbie in a fundamental way. Her steady drift from reality and into the twenty-first dimension is not about submissiveness, fame, or snagging a husband. It could be about finding a way out, however random, bizarre, and costly the route appears from the outside. It could be about gaining some measure of freedom.
Valeria's pointy talons have meanwhile been stripped into fuzzy half-transparency; I can see the outline of the real nail, shorter and darker, under the acrylic. She pulls her cashmere sweater's sleeve farther up, baring an elbow. It is dry and flaky, a flaw that, for some reason, imbues me with joy. This is the first and last moment of our brief acquaintance when she looks genuinely beautiful. Then she smiles the studied Barbie smile, and it's gone.
http://www.gq.com/women/photos/201404/valeria-lukyanova-human-barbie-doll?currentPage=2&printable=true (http://www.gq.com/women/photos/201404/valeria-lukyanova-human-barbie-doll?currentPage=2&printable=true)
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I wonder how many models the author has dealt with; it seems to me that what he describes is not such strange behavior for any star/aspiring star committed to a certain public persona -that is itself strange- witness Sasha Baron Cohen refusing to drop whatever bizarre character he's playing ATM in interviews... Honestly, the self-absortion/being difficult is par for the course with stars/divas/etc...
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I think I'll move this out of the science forum, where it has no place anyway, and see if that confuses the lurkers...
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Valeria Lukyanova Amatue MakeUp メイクアップ 化妝 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHnPeCliIR4#)
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Valeria Lukyanova Amatue MakeUp - gothic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpaqMEqgnac#)
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A few of those photos remind me of Mylochka's illustrations of Ruth Valley (the huge eyes and long hair). But overall, this is utterly freaky, and no amount of outward tweaking could ever make a racist mind beautiful.
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No doubt, no doubt - but I'm interested in the lurker phenomenon (four, IPs seemingly connected to Facebook somehow, were looking at once one time yesterday), the spectrum of reactions people have to her, and the thing we nerds do where we are so irritated by people liking things we don't - as we've discussed somewhat related to (fake) Star Trek fandom.
Why does it bother me that you like Seven of Nine, who appears she could be Ms. Lukyanova's healthier-looking cousin? Why does it bother you that I think she was the second-most blatant piece of pandering in all of fake ST, and horribly, incompetently, written, to boot? How does either POV harm the holder of the other?
Where's the harm in Valeria Lukyanova creating herself as an overtly artificial uncanny valley version of beauty? Why do these things bother us so much?
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This one, in particular, is so Mylochka that it just told Mom on me...
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Why does it bother me that you like Seven of Nine, who appears she could be Ms. Lukyanova's healthier-looking cousin? Why does it bother you that I think she was the second-most blatant piece of pandering in all of fake ST, and horribly, incompetently, written, to boot? How does either POV harm the holder of the other?
Where's the harm in Valeria Lukyanova creating herself as an overtly artificial uncanny valley version of beauty? Why do these things bother us so much?
Unlike this model, Jeri Ryan is an excellent actress, she has a personality, and yeah, she's skinny and has been called "Borg Barbie"... but outside of the most robotic Borg portrayals, Seven of Nine is an interesting character, and Jeri Ryan is a real person.
The model just seems like a really sad, low self-esteem, pathetic little racist with zero personality.
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I don't entirely disagree with any of that - but it avoids the real question...
There's something deep within us that bypasses rationality to instinctively reject otherness, I think. Why do you suppose?
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The real question of identifying the lurkers? I have no ideas there.
Rejecting "otherness" is a survival mechanism that we can thank evolution for, at least in part. Nowadays it's social evolution that we need to overcome that. Carl Sagan used to talk about the reptilian part of our brain that's still there - that we haven't discarded yet - that's the source of so much of the negativity - anger, hate, jealousy, etc.
Even if we got our own Surak to persuade us to the ways of logic, we still would have that reptilian part of our brain to contend with (and as we've seen with Star Trek, logic doesn't stop a person from being a complete racist).
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See my second-line edit.
But the lurker thing, too, sure.
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See my edit, too. ;)
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I think you've hit it, exactly - evolutionary competition with Neanderthals, etc., has hard-wired something really nasty into our brains.
Funny; if you read up on the cosmic new-age stuff Valeria/Amatue is into, it's all universal love and light. Those unfortunate remarks about race-mixing have to be a remnant left from a pre-enlightenment youth, as it seems to be not reconciled/in accord with the rest.
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Some of that new-age stuff is just ridiculous. You should see some of the vegan/omnivore fights that happen on Care2 (a misnamed site if ever there was). A couple of days ago somebody said they were working on cutting out eating anything that was once alive. I think the term is "breatharian" or some such nonsense.
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She's totally gotten into just that, as it happens.
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It's all these dolls I live with...
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Y'know, they're everywhere...
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I like braids.
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This is the woman who wants to sue GQ for calling her a racist, posing with a confederate flag.
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She must have a rich boy friend or spouse. ;)
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She totally has a rich husband.
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Still jealous? ;cute
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She's fascinating because she's strange, but I don't think I'd enjoy being involved with someone who takes SO many selfies...
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mirror mirror - Valeria Lukyanova - Real Life Human Barbie 2014 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzfSOUTFVAw#ws)
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She does have a certain Barbie-ish quality in being fun to see dressed up - she does astronaut a lot, but never president...
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And the revulsion reactions from people are interesting, too. She seems to evoke a profound uncanny valley response.
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And she thinks she's from outer space.
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Many believe her.
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Valeria Lukyanova - tutorial barbie doll make up メイクアップ 化妝 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB98C1vNV9c#ws)
That's her singing.
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Valeria being eaten by a snake - I bet she fits.
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She's feelin' all spiritual this week, apparently:
How often do we all forget technique "a Thanksgiving of the universe", but this is very important.
I basically recalled dad) you need to thank, as often as possible, for all that you have to ...
Some will say that they have little, they want more, so that they will not thank the universe, because they're not happy.
But it is fundamentally not a valid opinion. When we are not happy with, and proceed from the position of critics of the universe, that is, from a negative, then the Universe, like a mirror, reflects a reaction to the worsening situation, that people understood that what was before that, still good .... And even worse, to give the opportunity to evaluate the person what he appreciated .... more And now actually worse, but if people will complain, rather than thank the universe for the experience, the Universe still at times will worsen the situation. And will do so until the person does not come to its senses, and starts to come out positive, namely, begins to appreciate what it has, find joy and pleasure even in small things...
Sometimes we don't see the beauty of nature, not hear birds singing, not happy good health, well-being of ... Not to enjoy a delicious meal, and even warm and soft bed. We do all the slot machine, often. We accept small and pleasant moments for granted, without noticing them. But starting to notice the smallest, and from there a little positive, we otzerkalivaem ourselves through the universe, and it will automatically send us more and more, more and more. The main focus on pleasant, and thank the universe for these moments.
Therefore, a very good Thanksgiving technique. It allows us to increase all good things in his life, and the universe really helps us in what we produce.
The good feelings that we broadcast to the world, it gives us a good one.
And for the poor, of course bad.
Everything is so simple! Why do we so often make the slot machine and lose consciousness. Let yourself go with the flow, while we ourselves should take in their hands the paddle and steer its humble vessel in the direction we need to?
Do you know your destination? .... more
Well this is probably a topic for another post .....
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Sounds pretty much like a black&white
world universe view
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Flying saucer religion.
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Previously, I would have said that she was pretty, she was pursuing a vision, etc.
At this point I can't tell her from computer animation, and my "this doll gives me the creeps" reactions are kicking in, as if I'm seeing a Twilight Zone episode where somebody is trading places with a mannequin/ventriloquist's dummy/doll. In this episode, becoming slowly transformed and entombed in a doll's body. ;eek
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Pic where she's lightly made-up are definitely less off-putting. It's less the freakishly small waist and general skinniness than the Barbie makeup, I think.
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There's a custom faction idea in there somewhere...
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I mean, the occasional pic you see -where she's not in Barbie drag/heavy makeup w/ the super-vacant expression on her face, but instead looking like she experiences human emotions- she isn't all that bad.
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Now I wonder how much the creepy uncanny valley thing she evokes in people is on purpose - I've read that she used to troll Ukrainian boards as a witch, and I tend to believe it, given some older pics I've seen. -And that would be consistent with like, trolling the whole world with presenting herself as this fragile-looking delicate thing --- with something off and wrong and creepy about it.
If so, you'd have to admit that she's got a very successful Uno-esque goth pink thing going...
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On the other hand, maybe she's got pretty extreme body dysmorphic disorder, like people tend to assume. But assuming you can tell between that and publicity-desperate model committed to an extreme look when you've never met the woman seems fallacious to me.
Still, human emotions w/ lighter makeup = not disturbing - but where's the fun in freaking people out with those photos?
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I'm still trying to figure it all out, besides. Shock artist or sick lady? (Both?) What is the deal with people's revulsion reaction to a skinny woman in too much makeup?
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And note - the woman has actual (proportionate, not enhanced-looking) buttocks, her hipbones do not protrude alarmingly, and her cheeks are not hollow when she's that thin and pushing 30. She obviously doesn't eat enough to keep one of my legs alive, but we're not talking anorexia-level self starvation, I daresay; she's just too healthy-looking. And her look is consistent enough that I have to rule out photoshopping. Nobody's that good at shooping stuff that she could post several pictures a day for many years on end and never screw it up or be inconsistent.
She doesn't even pretend that her chest isn't store-bought, and she's definitely had a (pretty good) nose job since her teen beauty pageant days, but she looks enough like her mother and sister that I think the waist is just a skinny model working at being skinny; she had a more believable waist when she first became famous in Russia, but it was always pretty thin. [shrugs]
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Her mother, I believe - and almost a smile.
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Rusty, I stumbled over a way to look through her older Facebook shots that doesn't crash my machine so far - and I'm hoping to turn up something new where here body looks extreme but her face and expression doesn't, to gauge your reaction. You may conclude that I'm having a dull evening, to bother...
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Where does this register on the otherness revulsion scale?
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Heavier makeup than I'm looking for, but not weird Barbie eyes, and that there's an actual smile.
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This just looks like a model...
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Interesting quote...
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This here's actually a more authentic Barbie look than she usually sports. Barbie has never, as far as I recall, had a blank expression on her face - the original had a haughty pout, evolving into a big-eyed pleasant smile by the early 70s, a lot like this.
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But I don't think Barbie ever actually had that much to do with what she means to be performing - ethereal, if plastic, perfection with a profound distancing effect. People take Barbie from that, and she rolls with it, but not exactly the point of what she's doing. That has more to do with the flying saucer people and her other spiritual beliefs, eastern European standards of beauty, and yes, her personal issues. -Also, trolling.
I'm in awe of the virtuosity of the trolling, if I'm right about this. I enjoy watching an accomplished artist at work, whatever the medium...
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Where does this register on the otherness revulsion scale?
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Heavier makeup than I'm looking for, but not weird Barbie eyes, and that there's an actual smile.
That bikini top is hideodious , and she looks like jailbait. Beyond the make-up, which isn't that unusual, more or less normal.
Generally speaking- Her nose looks unnatural to me, but it looks like her mother's. I suppose that could be genes or a family plastic surgeon. Don't know. Perhaps there's a fetal alcohol syndrome vibe here with their faces. The bikini picture ( presumably younger) doesn't seem to have the verticle cleft between the nose and lip. Also, her hands seem over-sized.
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Her original nose looks almost exactly like her mother's, but the difference mostly shows in profile.
I take it jailbait and large hands indicates a less than perfect score on repulsion? Yeah, the visual cues in that shot, taken in isolation, do tend to signal youth - her head looks big, indicating shortness, and factoring in the skinny arms and legs, she looks like a 15 year-old who's just gone through changes. It is not that unusual for a young girl to get big in the chest before she builds up adult muscle mass. ISTR that she's actually a pretty normal height, so she must just have a big head/hands.
Agreed about the top.
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Well, I'm presuming the skinny blonde teenager/aspiring model in too much make-up/ passed off as an adult thing in that picture.
Nobody likes it any better than children's beauty pageants, but they buy the magazines with them on the cover anyway.
I guess it's logical- the more face-paint and silicone you add to the body, the more it's going to look like a doll. It's the crossing of the barrier between human and doll that makes me anxious.
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I'm pretty sure that shot is recent - as in, before she started seriously hitting the gym about two years ago, but she just didn't look like that as a teen beauty queen.
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It suddenly occurs to me to wonder if I should be digging up pictures of Jayne Mansfield to post for compare/contrast purposes. The first thing I ever saw her in was a western where she HAD to be wearing a tight girdle - her waist was circle-your-hands small, on a parody-of-Marylyn-Monroe buxom body, and the ultimate effect was similar to what Valeria has in her more attractive moments. Just didn't look real.
No one ever accused her of anorexia, and she definitely wasn't trolling, but there's some decided intersection of viewer reaction.
Both women, in their presentation and the reactions their extreme appearances elicited and the societal pressures surrounding them and informing their careers, have a lot to say, on some meta-level, about women's role in the world and people's perceptions of beauty and those fuzzy boundaries of otherness and when artifice goes too far - and interesting stuff like that.
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The one in the middle is her little sister - all original parts, I think.
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Note the flying saucer people outfit.
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Rusty - the new muscles; yeah or nay?
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I prefer ladies on the fit side w/ a bit of muscle - though I can see where in her case, you might find the extra definition more starved-looking...
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Here's one I believe was from soon after she won "Miss Diamond Crown of the World" in 2007, when she would have been about 22.
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I think that's her original nose, though she (passionately) denies buying anything but her bosoms at the plastic store... I ought to dig up some shots of her at the pageant, because her appearance has definitely altered since.
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Trouble is, she never posts context or a date with pics, she might post something seven years old the same day as a selfie she just snapped, and articles about her more than two years old tend to be in Russian. Here's an old shot you see constantly with attacks that she's super-fake (OF COURSE she's fake; much of the reason I find her interesting is her quest to create herself, physically).
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I believe this is indeed her, BTW.
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Here's video from the pageant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPH3FpzguWk&feature=player_detailpage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPH3FpzguWk&feature=player_detailpage)
You can see differences; her waist is small but not astonishingly so, and still the original nose. Like all the older pictures, I notice that she always had a haughty facial expression that I don't find becoming.
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Rusty - the new muscles; yeah or nay?
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I prefer ladies on the fit side w/ a bit of muscle - though I can see where in her case, you might find the extra definition more starved-looking...
It doesn't set off the freak-o-meter the way the other pictures did with it's plastic-looking spray tan. This looks more anorexic/unfertile than inhuman.
I found this video following the one you showed me-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaevrlcH_BY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaevrlcH_BY)
It documents various photoshops of her, including modeling, paparazzi, and fanart. Most of it seems subtle to me, but maybe it's exactly what you're searching for.
A celebrity that photoshops fan art of themselves..... seems ungrateful, and unbalanced.
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I dunno - if there was fan art of me, I'd probably be shooping it...
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I dunno - if there was fan art of me, I'd probably be shooping it...
Now I'm thinking I'd like to see a Mylochka portrait of Buncle as an Original Star Trek character... Just don't make the classic Kirk mistake and take off your shirt. :P
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I've got a Jesus/Comic Book Guy going - I can't see that working in the Star Fleet uniform.
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I guess not.
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With a human expression and body language - THAT'S not something she lets slip a lot...
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I think it might be old - that could be her real nose...
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She looks like an Earthling!
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Looks Earth human here, too.
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Well, her waist shows enough to be a little freaky, but I doubt you'd much notice if you were seeing her for the first time... That may well be the same blouse as the last shot.
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Not Of This World-
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Jayne Mansfield in The Sheriff of Fractured Jaw, the first thing I noticed her in as a kid.
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What she was doing and what I think Valeria intends aren't that alike - Mansfield just wanted to be a big star, and got stuck into a Marilyn Monroe-parody career path, but wanted to be appealing and liked, while Lukanova seems to be trying to shock her way to fame. Mansfield was notorious for having deliberately-engineered wardrobe malfunctions for the publicity.
But there are definite commonalities beyond the obvious not-looking-real thing. Notwithstanding that Mansfield's clown makeup and extreme physicality were far more to the mainstream tastes of her time, they both overall give off a stank of trying-too-hard desperation for fame. It certainly didn't end well for Mansfield, and Lukynova is not likely to still be famous in 10 years - women with that kind of career are finished as soon as they age much.
In my native culture, we have a term "showing your butt in public" (behaving inappropriately and in an undignified way)
- leaving aside the considerable appropriateness in these cases of applying it literally, looking like you're trying too hard to be famous is a form of butt-showing. It's tough to put a finger on the line between a woman pretty for a living using what's she's got to get ahead and looking cheap and desperate, but both tend to cross it.
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That waist mostly ain't girdle, and both DO play with extremes of physicality and inherently interrogate our perceptions of standards of beauty...
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Embed is working again - I think it was something YouTube was up to and nobody here did anything.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKHZkKpKei4&feature=player_detailpage#)
I understand Mansfield was a decent singer, so I don't know why they had Connie Francis dub her songs in the movie, unless it was related to her getting pregnant during the movie and maybe one of the things she was unavailable for was looping in post production - it's not so distracting in this number, but the two love songs with her costar were so obviously dubbed that it really ruined the scenes far beyond the value of Francis' probably far superior vocals.
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And this brings up Lonnie Anderson, who played Mansfield in a pretty good TV movie and was a good enough likeness that while I was googling images, I wondered several times momentarily if I wasn't actually looking at Anderson playing her.
...I 'spose this is an excuse to post pictures of Lonnie Anderson later...
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That was well-expressed. I agree, but wouldn't have said it so well.
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I'm a -whatchacallit- deep thinker, and I've been thinking about this for a long time.
I'm trying to understand the strange reaction I, and definitely others, have to Ms. Lukynova - I will come as no shock when I admit that I often like looking at her - but I do feel the repulsion, too. My tastes in women strongly runs again fake/whorey-looking -I tend to associate the two- so when I see one who pulls off the clown makeup bleached-blonde look and manages to look good to me that way anyway, I'm intrigued on an intellectual level. I have the same reaction to Heather Tesh, formerly of the Weather Channel. (Now I've brought in a justification to go look at and post pictures of Heather Tesh, who definitely evokes Barbie comparisons without the edge to it.)
And the whole uncanny valley thing that I perceive Valaria plays with deliberately as a sort of meta performance art, triply-so; it's fascinating the reaction we have to overly-realistic dolls and overly unreal-looking people. It offends something deep in us that doesn't like having perceptions of reality challenged.
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She's actually a very odd person, with a strange draw.
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Sorta the point.
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Have you ever tried sungazing as food?
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No, and I wonder what she was trying to pull when she claimed that.
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My brother actually tried it and said he did feel full, however in WI we don't get much sunlight. He claims to have gone 48 days on just water. I tried it for 2 days and then overslept, which is my excuse for eating breakfast that day :)
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;lol ;b;
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Human facial expression, check. Non-freaky makeup, check (though the eye makeup is poor). Looking curvy but not freakishly so/starved, check.
I'd say this is one of her better shots. I believe that's her real nose, too.
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This one is win on the same grounds at the last, except new nose, better eye makeup, and no ugly black Synyrd pseudo cowbow hat.
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I think her hair looks good here. Cute pic.
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Mostly interesting for it could be any youngish normal-looking blonde taking a selfie.
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Clown makeup & weird pseudo-bindi, but note the look of actually having human emotions on her face...
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That's 'Beta Barbie'/sidekick Olga beside her in truly hideous clown makeup - normally, she serves to make Valaria look more ethereal; in this shot, she makes Val look beautiful and restrained and normal. Olga's normally a lot better-looking than this, in her fake-but-less-fake way...
Uno? See the bat necklace?
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No idea what she was going for with the eye makeup. Is that sunglasses instead?
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No idea what she was going for with the eye makeup. Is that sunglasses instead?
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She could keep quite a lot of skimpy outfits in that hand luggage.
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I bet she could model the HECK outta some girly chainmail...
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Sometimes simple is best. ;nod
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Have I ever posted this one for Uno, presumably from her goth days?
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She's trying to be like Valka...
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#valerialukyanova (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/valerialukyanova?source=feed_text&story_id=1635934240023547)
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...Even to the jeweled diadem...
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Ugh. Must be nice to have all that money to get attention.
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Well, it's been quiet on the boards for about five days in a row, for some reason - and Valeria, bless her strange heart, is good for business, for some reason.
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-Shooped, for some reason. The previous, similar, shot doesn't appear to be. She looks sorta Jiila like this, don't she, Geo?
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...Upon further examination of the previous shot, I take it back - her skintone has been rosied up a bit -it got in her hair- possibly some highlights added, if her shooper is good enough. Mylochka is masterful at that. I kinda suck...
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She is [blasphemy] gross-ugly.
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Language, man.
Fascinating, the revulsion reactions she provokes...
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You're censoring me for that? That's worse than CFC.
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Fascinating, the revulsion reactions she provokes..
She turned herself into a freak so she could take selfies. Cosplay is one thing
this is another.
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I look at it as a sort of performance art - she looked like a normal thin blonde when she won that national beauty pageant about ten years ago, and she's taken on shaping herself to be/look the way she wants to, something we all do to a lesser extent. The results are interesting, largely for the passionate reactions she provokes.
She's not very different from a lady bodybuilder in that, even before she began seriously working out.
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I don't think she realizes how much more appealing she comes off with the more normal looks.
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-I actually believe that that feeds into the uncanny valley effect she provokes so strongly - her base appearance is so incredibly mundane -with her waist covered and little makeup, she's not even that remarkably skinny-looking by US standards- and modifying that to be exotic w/ the underlying off-the-shelf thin blonde looks still in the mix causes a cognitive dissonance.
I just can't work out how much of it is purposely intended to provoke, and how much is just flying saucer worship aesthetics...
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BYTW - she started a Facebook page a few weeks ago that she seems to actually run herself.
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(I like the braid.)
-And I figured what the heck, and posted on there today to suggest that since she clearly likes to play dressup pose for pictures, she could make a mighty fine Lara Croft. We'll see is anything comes of it...
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She is [blasphemy] gross-ugly.
I feel really sorry for people who write that, because it means, that they are very unhappy, and that is why they are so evil.
- See more at: http://www.toofab.com/2015/09/10/human-barbie-valeria-lukyanova-djing-exclusive/#sthash.AZ4C2F7J.dpuf (http://www.toofab.com/2015/09/10/human-barbie-valeria-lukyanova-djing-exclusive/#sthash.AZ4C2F7J.dpuf)
;lol
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She wants to be an Amazon Warrior. Have you offered to fit her for fashionable chain-mail? :D
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I really ought to make it first. And the overseas postage for ten-or-so pounds of steel sorta makes that a non-starter...
I bet she could model the HECK outta some girly chainmail...
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Mind you, if I was looking to set up in business making and selling chainmail, I would totally make something to my best guess of a fit and offer it to her gratis for the publicity and hot pics she'd subsequently, of course, post - same as high-dollar dress designers loaning/giving dresses to celebrities for the Oscars. She'd go for it in a second, I bet, and I'd be able to charge REAL high for far more sets than I could ever make.
That extreme figure of hers was just MADE for cosplay - closer to a comicbook woman's figure than almost any model out there already doing it. She would be an ideal model for this.
But can't type while I "knit", and I stopped watching TV years ago, and making the stuff takes forever and is tedious beyond words. Not real interested in making a job of it, like Uno and the Halloween only a lot less invested in the first place.
Here's her current Instagram avatar:
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The eye makeup could use toning way down, but it's entirely mundane excess. Again, when she sports a conventional look, she's actually pretty and doesn't trigger the uncanny valley effect. -Half of it's just that she's weird and does herself up weird, not the unnatural-looking waist.
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Okay, this amuses me highly on an ironic level. She has "Selfie Fridays" on her FB page -which is funny enough on its own- to get a look at her fans or something, and I needed to take a picture of a mail shirt I don't entirely remember making related to the chainmail-making project about to start, so --- what the heck. I took one with my head left in.
Now, I'm having an outbreak of rosacea or something this summer, and I'm not in love with my own face to begin with, so putting it out there (fools' names and fools' faces/always seen in public places) with a nasty splotch on it on it was right out.
So here's the punchline - I just posted a shooped selfie for her.
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...She just 'liked' it... ;lol
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A stranger with the suspicious handle of Ruslan Ivanov messaged me a hater video overnight, for some reason.
REAL VALERIYA LUKYANOVA !! Ukrainian Barbie exposed !!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFQTsYHgC2Q#)
A lot of that isn't new information to me, and the conclusions don't necessarily follow. Mostly of interest for a better look at her husband.
At what point is having gone through phases and being on a major kick to try to be what you want to be all that worthy of derision? I don't think anyone ever tried to claim she wasn't odd.
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Okay, gather 'round my friends, while BU relates a bit of webs comedy he really just lived through.
Got a 'friend' request from a total stranger on Facebook about an hour1/2 ago. Green1 is the only person I ever reached out to that way (because trying to lure him back, and wanted to keep track of when he was on the book posting); everyone else on my friend list came to me, including sisko, the Texas redneck teenage girl who seemed to only be looking to raise money for a car, and a recent Indonesian who has too darn many 'friends'. (You have to x out a lot of profiles taking up space atop your personal page and be aggressive about blocking friends of 'friend's when you don't like seeing their gross tattoos -or opinions or whatever- on your timeline. It's an American I actually knew online pre-facebook I have to do this most with, and not Green.) Foreign-sounding name, but policy is say yes to everyone who asks because you never know, and never lose the future option of unfriending if needed.
So dude messages all friendly and starts chatting me up, which is a first for stranger 'friend's. I see he's just liked Valeria's page, which I assume is how he found me, though I guess it could be the other way around, but why I post about it here, as Val-adjacent.
I smell a rat, but no harm in answering a few questions and chatting. It's all good. Then this:
dear I know ur very nice Lady ..anyways do u have any boy friend..??.. Hahaha :) :) :) :)
[I guess he missed when I earlier said white guy wearing chainmail in the Friday Selfie thread to his asking to see a picture, (which should have blown his game right there, had I not been distracted multitasking)...]
Oh. The avatar - that's Taylor Swift painted green. I'm a man, and straight. I just thought the avatar was funny.
I'm a US American from the southeast. You?
[Several minutes pause...]
Okay... just mis under standing...haha
It's cool.
That's what I get for wearing a pretty celebrity for a portrait.
I'm from India ..okay now I understand... Well nice to meet u jimmy
Likewise. :D
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[radio silence since]
;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol
Serves me right for poking my face in in international strangeville looking like Orion Taylor Swift...
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Okay, gather 'round my friends, while BU relates a bit of webs comedy he really just lived through.
Got a 'friend' request from a total stranger on Facebook about an hour1/2 ago. Green1 is the only person I ever reached out to that way (because trying to lure him back, and wanted to keep track of when he was on the book posting); everyone else on my friend list came to me, including sisko, the Texas redneck teenage girl who seemed to only be looking to raise money for a car, and a recent Indonesian who has too darn many 'friends'. (You have to x out a lot of profiles taking up space atop your personal page and be aggressive about blocking friends of 'friend's when you don't like seeing their gross tattoos -or opinions or whatever- on your timeline. It's an American I actually knew online pre-facebook I have to do this most with, and not Green.) Foreign-sounding name, but policy is say yes to everyone who asks because you never know, and never lose the future option of unfriending if needed.
So dude messages all friendly and starts chatting me up, which is a first for stranger 'friend's. I see he's just liked Valeria's page, which I assume is how he found me, though I guess it could be the other way around, but why I post about it here, as Val-adjacent.
I smell a rat, but no harm in answering a few questions and chatting. It's all good. Then this:
dear I know ur very nice Lady ..anyways do u have any boy friend..??.. Hahaha :) :) :) :)
[I guess he missed when I earlier said white guy wearing chainmail in the Friday Selfie thread to his asking to see a picture, (which should have blown his game right there, had I not been distracted multitasking)...]
Oh. The avatar - that's Taylor Swift painted green. I'm a man, and straight. I just thought the avatar was funny.
I'm a US American from the southeast. You?
[Several minutes pause...]
Okay... just mis under standing...haha
It's cool.
That's what I get for wearing a pretty celebrity for a portrait.
I'm from India ..okay now I understand... Well nice to meet u jimmy
Likewise. :D
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[radio silence since]
;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol
Serves me right for poking my face in in international strangeville looking like Orion Taylor Swift...
I have a smile on my face, yet on the inside I am having the feeling of ???. I hope this story reminds people that posing as famous actors might draw unwanted attention towards yourself.
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Not posing. Made a thing for the heck of it -Vidsek's idea- liked it. Wore it. Never expected anyone to think a person going by "Jimmy" was a woman.
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I did the attached. She 'liked' it.
:-[
Repeat a word of this, and I'll deny it.
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Just because...
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Anybody seen Prophesy and Dogma? Little of each, here...
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There's probably a custom faction idea somewhere in there...
The Avenging Angels - aggressive religious fanatics with a (creepy) gene-engineered twist and a bit of Flash Gordon's Hawkmen cache'. Hmm?
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There were some standout pics I'd never seen of her in the gallery with the interview I posted recently.
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That cosmic picture of her is kinda cool.
I was just about to say why don't you do yourself Flash Gordon style....
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"Who wants to live forever?" [laughs] "DIIIIIVE!"
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"Who wants to live forever?" [laughs] "DIIIIIVE!"
;lol :danc: :danc:
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"Who wants to live forever?" [laughs] "DIIIIIVE!"
;lol :danc: :danc:
Nobody's as Brian Blessed as Brian Blessed, but I could pass as Rand Blessed for sure. ;)
-Val can be Dale Arden Jr, and I'll show her the bear.
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I like the real eyes.
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I think that's the real nose, too. It is really hard to tell, because as strange as many of the faces she puts on are, she's VERY skilled/talented with makeup. Excellent color-sense, well-applied, and when she doesn't want to look made up, she can manage to wear quite a lot and look sorta kinda natural and fool a lot of innerwebs people. If I'd never seen profiles, I'd still be sticking up for her that there's no nosejob, just careful makeup.
I am not talking any sort of crap when I assert that the woman is an actual artist working in the medium of her own appearance. People feel something strongly when they look at pictures of her, which holds up a mirror to them as much as any given look she's put on saying things about her. That's art.
I enjoy watching an artist at work - it's hardly the first time I've said so.
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I am not talking any sort of crap when I assert that the woman is an actual artist working in the medium of her own appearance. People feel something strongly when they look at pictures of her, which holds up a mirror to them as much as any given look she's put on saying things about her. That's art.
I can accept that.
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Unicorn worship?
Why else is it bumped? Yeah, she has a modeling career and gimmick. And, some poses to transition between glamor and whatever. But, pure and simple this is icon worship. Bumpers, Yall arent having a Gi Joe man to Barbie doll fetish? I mean, I understand for our age group. But really... Barbies are too big and out there...and unobtainable. Barbie, like GI Joe are marketing gimmicks. GI Joe to make it where if you had no hope but talent, hey, go military! Barbie is look cool at all times and be everything. Barbies are much larger. Even He Man figures from the day are half that size. Why?
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
Prince Vultan "Dive!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5HfDIwNI8w#)
When we put on an AC2 stage production of Flash Gordon, I haven't the foggiest about who plays the other roles, but I got Vultan covered. Seriously, I do. I will blow the rest of you off the stage.
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Hey, was Dale not hotter than hot in that little white dress for a few chapters early in the first serial? Correct answer: yes indeed; hotter 'n HELL.
And what was with Vultan showing her the space bear? He didn't make any threats, ask for anything, or lay any conditions on sending it back out (avec slap on the butt). It looked like he was just drunk outta his flippin' skull and just plain wanted to show her the bear.
I see the entire first serial, as posted in the Flash Gordon thread, has been taken down. Commence search for replacement...
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For Vultan showing her the bear, 15:30 - 17:00. It's beautifully random.
Flash Gordon 1936 Chapter 5 / 12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASj6j4jFzX0#)
Now to go repost the lot...
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Forgot to post another Barbie pic...
This is another of the sort her fanz will comment on as if she's not got her face on - when she's just wearing less makeup...
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Hey! Cute normal girl!
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Hey! Cute normal girl!
Jogger Barbie. When does she ever appear as "normal" girl? What definition is applied in this case to "normal"?
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...That last pic posted doesn't look like anything but a fairly pretty blonde girl. Not even that skinny. Jogging or something with makeup on, yes, but that's nit-picking. Isn't that normal enough?...
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...That last pic posted doesn't look like anything but a fairly pretty blonde girl. Not even that skinny. Jogging or something with makeup on, yes, but that's nit-picking. Isn't that normal enough?...
I hope she wears waterproof makeup while jogging or else she might come home looking less than spectacular. [Insert picture of a woman with smeared makeup here]
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She must - since she started working out to build muscle, she posts a lot of pictures and videos taken at the gym, and her face is always on.
Question, Dio: does she freak out a southern California man as much as most people? You should be more used to fake, depending on how close to LA...
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She must - since she started working out to build muscle, she posts a lot of pictures and videos taken at the gym, and her face is always on.
Question, Dio: does she freak out a southern California man as much as most people? You should be more used to fake, depending on how close to LA...
I live in a working to lower middle class neighborhood. The individuals with the best attire tend to congregate in the more expensive portions of L.A. that include West Hollywood, Santa Monica, and essentially the western side of Los Angeles. In Beverly Hills they even have people that sweep the major sidewalks throughout the day. An individual will rarely see a piece of trash on the ground in that neighborhood. In other words, I tend to see women that lack the ability to manage themselves well or dress in a very provocative manner. I obviously see some women that fall in between, and look decent, but they are not common.
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Phooey, man. All the restaurants and stores are still full of under-employed actors working a day job anywhere in the whole valley.
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Phooey, man. All the restaurants and stores are still full of under-employed actors working a day job anywhere in the whole valley.
Many of the decent actors travel to other locations due to the high cost of shooting in our region. A popular state recently for shooting films and TV series has been Georgia. I will not even start on our strict regulatory laws, "fees," and taxes that have come with this legislation on the enviroment.
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Fish don't notice the water is wet - maybe you don't notice all the fake-looking people in town, being so used to it, for all that I hear Angelinos freely own that.
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You must learn to understand something about very large cities like L.A. Like people tend to congregate around each other. This means the fake people tend to crowd around each other, the latin american populations form another community, the east asians have a section, the african americans have another, the caucasians either flee or meld with a group, the Indians (as in from India) form another, and the Central Asians form a different community. In other words, you tend to see a mosaic of different groups that live near each other but rarely interact beyond business or accidental contact. As an example, I frequently see groups of Farsi speaking individuals in our area. I also hear many individuals that speak either an east asian language or Spanish in our neighborhood.
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You talk, though, like you don't see plastic blondes most every time you walk into a store or eat out where there's waiters. Hard to believe, even given the credible human flocking you describe.
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You talk, though, like you don't see plastic blondes most every time you walk into a store or eat out where there's waiters. Hard to believe, even given the credible human flocking you describe.
The majority of blond women that are not naturally this color you can see because the portion of a hair follicle near the scalp often display the true color. Plastic surgery often requires a signficant sum of money from the individual that undergoes these operations.
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She just posted a video of herself climbing a rope in the gym - sure enough, she has her face on...
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She just posted a video of herself climbing a rope in the gym - sure enough, she has her face on...
She has transformed into Ninja or Stealth Barbie.
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She said "Do you think that I'm weak? I'm not!!!"
All her facebook videos are really short, as if taken with still cameras, and formats I can't embed here.
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From Doll House to Deep House: We Spoke to the Human Barbie About Her Forthcoming DJ Tour
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By Gigen Mammoser September 23, 2015 /12:00 PM /
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Model, philosopher, and internet sensation Valeria Lukyanova—often referred to as the human barbie—is apparently planning to take the music world by storm. According to a recent announcement on her website, she is also a professional DJ, and will soon be embarking on a global "Space Barbie Tour," with planned stops in Europe, USA, China, Japan, Australia, and Latin America.
The press release states that alongside her collaborator, Ukrainian DJ Sender, Lukyanova will be blasting a mix of "futuristic deep house and space disco." With Sender's help, she has been practicing her DJ skills and working on a debut EP, although she has yet to release any original tunes—or announce any official dates or venues for the tour.
Lukyanova became a viral sensation around 2012, when images of her doll-like appearance quickly made her the most contentious beauty icon of recent memory. Her aesthetic polarized debates on body image, health, and identity. While some celebrated her cartoonishly perfect body, others mocked it as shockingly grotesque.
Lukyanova previously starred in VICE's 2013 mini-documentary Real Life Ukrainian Barbie, where she stated, "I use my appearance to promote my spiritual ideas."
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As stated in her press release, the tour will also serve as a platform for her "spiritual mission," combining elements of meditation and dancing into something way more far-out than your typical evening out at the club. "Valeria will be using special words from ancient languages, which will result in a meditation right on the dancefloor," states the press release. "During her performance the Human Barbie will show special signs with her hands (also known as mudras) demonstrating a deeper immersion into the atmosphere."
THUMP contacted Lukyanova through email via her management to get a better understanding of what to expect from this cosmic, transcendental performance.
[This interview has been edited for length and clarity.]
THUMP: What do you hope to achieve through your DJ mission?
Valeria Lukyanova: I would like to reach the hearts of people through mystic sounds and their application in modern music. Everything that I do with sounds can help people find themselves and their essence: heal, see what has not been seen, hear what has not been heard, and open hearts to meet the unknown.
How did you begin your collaboration with DJ Sender?
DJ Sender is a very special person! Eugene just like me, practices meditation and yoga. Before, I never even considered being a DJ. It began when I met Elena Bobkina, who worked as producer for ELLO TV, one of the biggest music channels on YouTube. Elena introduced me to Nadia Stognevich, the manager of Kazaky, a Ukranian electro group. Nadia eventually got DJ Sender involved. By pleasant coincidence, we are all practicing spiritual development.
Sender - The Crystals (Official Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nseNOncrKLk&feature=player_embedded#)
What can people expect from the tour?
I'd like to introduce people to another side of my life and, perhaps, someone will be interested in this even more than my spectacular and colorful alien appearance.
What will people experience when they attend your DJ shows?
For most people, it will be a flash of insight, joy, or euphoria, but for others it may be something sad. They will see new horizons and feel an impulse to start something new.
How should one dress in order to best experience the "musical journey" you offer?
It should be something unusual that will be remembered for a long time. We must create an atmosphere and a reality around us. Take the first step in the creation of your own micro-universe and show off your identity and personal style. The more unusual people dress up, the better. Creativity is the basis of the entire universe!
What is the most beautiful aspect of DJing?
Disclosure of the hidden potential inside of me and the auditorium. Bringing people together, general vibrations of enlightenment, joy, and harmony.
Can you tell us more about the ancient languages you will use to facilitate meditation at your shows?
There are languages that are no longer spoken, but combinations of sounds and vibrations have certain energetic messages. These messages can plunge one into happiness or sadness. They help people to buck up, feel more natural, or find themselves and develop their personality.
Which mudra do you find to be most powerful to facilitate meditation?
You never know what message you will feel from the audience or what the audience will need. We can only speculate. I'll prepare something unique for each concert, but still leave room to improvise. Of course, we all need healing in different ways, so I think a comprehensive healing mudra is the best option for everyone.
What does music sound like in deep space?
Music of the spheres. It is harmonious music that consists of different styles, speeds, and vibrations. It creates a very fundamental, calm, and even tone. This music includes joy and sadness, laughter and tears, loud and quiet, screams and whispers, and flickering fractals—multivariate singing of mandalas that never stops.
Will people who attend the Space Barbie Tour ever be the same again?
They will never be the same again, even if they really wanted to. The energy that descends during the set will change them from who they were before. It's a very powerful and creative energy transformer.
Valeria Lukyanova is on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/valeriyalukyanova) // Twitter (https://twitter.com/lukyanovame) // Instagram (https://instagram.com/lukyanova.me)
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She looks fairly normal except for the gaudy couch and extensive make-up.
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Leave out the pseudo-bindi -she's new age- and it's pretty well-done and normal extensive makeup...
The couch says it was probably taken in Ukraine where she lives - I believe they strongly partake there of the Russian aesthetic that goes in for lots of gilding - a wonder there's no dark reds or busy scrollwork in evidence.
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Leave out the pseudo-bindi -she's new age- and it's pretty well-done and normal extensive makeup...
The couch says it was probably taken in Ukraine where she lives - I believe they strongly partake there of the Russian aesthetic that goes in for lots of gilding - a wonder there's no dark reds or busy scrollwork in evidence.
I would not mind the couch except that the location of the photo makes it contrast with the background to the point that it draws the eye away from the subject of this photograph.
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Huh. I barely noticed she was sitting on something.
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The effect becomes pronounced because the sofa remains well-lite and the background has very minimal lighting. The light also causes the colors of the sofa to become better defined and to contrast against the other objects in this photograph.
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Four lurkers at once for some reason. Just as well give 'em something new...
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From Doll House to Deep House: We Spoke to the Human Barbie About Her Forthcoming DJ Tour
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By Gigen Mammoser September 23, 2015 /12:00 PM /
Will people who attend the Space Barbie Tour ever be the same again?
They will never be the same again, even if they really wanted to. The energy that descends during the set will change them from who they were before. It's a very powerful and creative energy transformer.
Well, as long as she's affiliated with the Transformers, rather than the Decepticons, I guess it's all Okay.
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Some have been saying all along she was a Decpticon.
I dunno; I think she's a skinny model into some New Age stuff, is all. Talks about love on her Facebook all the time.
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I'm still convinced that she's an artist, as you said.
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As I've mentioned before, she's a pretty good singer, too, if you don't mind the cosmic New Age style of music, like Enya on LSD.
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The above photo makes her appear dead in the sense that she has become a plastic doll with no facial expression. The sofa this time appears less gaudy. I think this benefits the overall presentation of the photograph.
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Oh, that's not all that blank by her standards.
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A pity the obvious jokes are so vulgar...
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Where are her clothes? Where has the word "modesty" gone?
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She went in to put on something else, but everything in her closet was also tiny.
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Why is she leaning against a plastic, green mold of a lizard with that evil smirk on her face? ??? What diabolical plans does she have in store for this poor object? :o
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The view without her butt and her thong in the photograph remains breathtaking.
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She's in Mexico doing DJ gigs lately.
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She's not been posting on FB much lately - with this, she commented "I think a lot, but I don't say much".
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Beautiful legs. Too bad most of the photos focus on the made-up and modified head and upper torso.
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Same outfit from the front - and the effect's just not the same.
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Beautiful legs. Too bad most of the photos focus on the made-up and modified head and upper torso.
That might just be me - I don't repost everything...
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I did a cosmic/astral shoop of the shot on the last page-
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-and this:
Omg!! Thank you! I love it!
:-[ I'm not a fanboy...
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That's cool. It looks nice. You made her happy.
That's just fine.
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:-[ I am a fanboy. :-[
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:-[ I am a fanboy. :-[
;wince ewww . . . ??? How can people enjoy a potentially licentious woman? Where does the bleh emoticon appear on the forum? ;wince
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Licentious? I sorta doubt even her husband's getting much of that. Just an impression...
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Licentious? I sorta doubt even her husband's getting much of that. Just an impression...
How do we know that her relationship does not possess unorthodox aspects given her propensity to espouse different personal beliefs?
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We don't, of course - I just get a read off her that she's one of those people who doesn't much have sex. 1.) It would muss her hair and makeup. 2.) It's so --- animal. She wants to be a perfectly plastic flying saucer person.
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We don't, of course - I just get a read off her that she's one of those people who doesn't much have sex. 1.) It would muss her hair and makeup. 2.) It's so --- animal. She wants to be a perfectly plastic flying saucer person.
Yes. I see your point about her personal beliefs. I think she wants aliens to abduct her and fawn over her without ruining her perfect body. ;b;
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Yeah. As Rusty and I have discussed, she's an artist working in the medium of her own appearance. Saying she's vain could be accurate, but it's a little more complex than just that, maybe.
Sexytime might get in the way of being seen, and she definitely doesn't do it in the streets.
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And consider that she's kinda, more-or-less, a Buddhist - abstinence is pretty consistent with the whole putting aside desire stuff...
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She's alleged to have landed a movie roll...
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I'm sure I'll be skipping that one.
I do wish her well with it.
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Yeah; sounds straight-to-video at best.
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I'm talking about my personal creepy/freaky index about blurring the lines between people and dolls/mannequins, etc.
As far as the movie goes, I hope that she, as an artist, finds a broader audience through it..
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She's supposed to play an actual doll-sized doll sent on a killing spree by an alien...
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She's supposed to play an actual doll-sized doll sent on a killing spree by an alien...
I think she can play that.
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Too bad, though - you know she'd rather play the alien.
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According to IMDB, it's a real movie in post-production. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5176832/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5176832/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1)
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I think we know who plans to buy a ticket for the movie. ;cute
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Naw - not my cup of tea, either.
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I mean, if you want to accuse me of being a fanboy - I did this yesterday...
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Is that a Star Trek race?
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I was thinking elf.
There's a better one like that, BTW - this photo was really hard to work with; the more lit parts were overexposed, and I had to guess where part of the top ended...
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I was thinking elf.
There's a better one like that, BTW - this photo was really hard to work with; the more lit parts were overexposed, and I had to guess where part of the top ended...
What did you do? Why did you birth such an abomination? :o
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It made me think elf, but it also reminded me of some of Mylochka's work, and I really don't recall the Star Trek races beyond humans, Romulans, Klingons, and Vulcans. Perhaps something else will percolate...
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I dunno, Dio - sometimes I enjoy shooping things. There's an art to it.
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...And I'm an artist...
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*Sings* Those that see her face draw back in awe / for The Man of Mystery that creates such pieces of art *End Singing*
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Enjoy, then.
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A study in green. I love that one.
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:D Stay tuned...
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The eyes in these pictures remind me disturbingly of ;cha;.
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They're not a BIT pink...
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They're not a BIT pink...
Correct. The eyes, however, are a bright and unnatural color that contrasts with the skin of the individual.
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But she's not evil...
...Arguably...
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But she's not evil...
...Arguably...
The world may never know about the thoughts that course through the mind of an artist. The thoughts that create something might cause other people to close their eyes in holy dread.
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Now you're talking about Uno.
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Why do you assume that Unorthodox remains the only artist in the world with such disturbing thoughts?
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I don't - but he created the others.
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I think you give him more credit than he deserves.
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No - he earned it posting a lot.
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If I got payed for posting a lot of stuff, than I could earn many dollars. I realize, alas, life does not work like that.
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You get fake money, just like everyone else. It's a lot like life, that way.
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I hope to become a wealthy man in the virtual world.
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;nod
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I just ain't right in the haid...
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No reactions?
Bakrama looks pretty bad -he's got the wrong eyes/brows for the job, and I don't like how his skin tone ended up- but the last of her worked out pretty well.
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I laughed.
But seeing as how the guy finally came out with an admirable statement, it seems like a poor choice of picture.
Every time I see Hillary in her gold outfit, I think of Star Trek, so I guess I don't have room to complain.
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I'm not elfing her.
You know I felt I had to narrow his right ear a little, as it naturally sticks out so much that, with the points, it would look like I made them extra ridiculous on purpose?
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Yes, his ears are large IRL.
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They. are. RIDICULOUSLY. large. when you do something to them to make them stand out...
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Speaking of ridiculous...
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She's in Mexico this week, on a DJ gig.
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And just gave me an art project for the day - this is begging for an elfing.
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I elfed the heck outta her...
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I find her more and more creepy every time I come back to this thread. I'm not criticizing your alterations, BUncle - I just look at her eyes and shudder, because I get the impression that there's nothing conscious or sentient behind them.
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There's an element of trolling to what she does - a Lady Gaga-in-a-meat-dress thing. She seems like she'd rather be loved, but will take any strong reaction she can provoke.
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...She's promoting that The Doll movie today on the Facebook - or at least a page about her is; it's gotten confusing about what's official in the last two weeks...
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/human-barbie-comes-life-trailer-7950223 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/human-barbie-comes-life-trailer-7950223)
Human Barbie comes to life in trailer for brutal slasher movie - the creepiest thing you'll see today
The Doll movie sees Ukrainian model Valeria Lukyanova aka Human Barbie star as a knife wielding serial killer
The Daily Mirror
By Danny Walker Updated 22:33, 11 May 2016
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsKuKjmrhNI#)
Barbie has finally come to life in the trailer for a Hollywood slasher movie .
Valeria Lukyanova aka 30-year-old Human Barbie - the Ukrainian model who has made it her life’s ambition to mimic the famous American toy - is heading to a theatre near you.
Starring in The Doll this is the first serious role of Valeria as the film will be presented at the Cannes Film Festival.
The slasher movie sees a possessed doll (Valeria) ruin the lives of two friends and the trailer shows just how brutal, creepy and seriously weird the film looks.
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The Doll coming to a screen near you
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Why aren't they running?
The synopsis reads: Eddie (Anthony Del Negrois) and his friend Chris (Christopher Lenk) call out for an escort after Eddie’s girlfriend (Isabella Racco) breaks up with him and moves out of their house. Little do they know that while Natasha is a breathtaking beauty, she's really a possessed doll created by a mad doctor (Don Scribner) in an unholy laboratory and built with the urge to kill and dominate the minds of others to kill for her.
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What is going on in The Doll?
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Yes, time to run!
Of the film, director, writer and producer, Susannah O’Brien said: "I loved filming with Valeria she was a natural she really is a true doll.
"She was a pleasure to work with took great direction worked the long hours and was a natural.
"There hasn't been a movie like this since Child's Play. To take a real life looking doll which people are naturally scared of dolls, and make Valeria who looks like a real life doll the killer, in a horror movie was a no brainer for me to write for Valeria. My psychology background helped me make this script and movie more intense.”
The role seems perfect for Valeria.
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*Gulps*
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Erm, OK?
Dubbed the Odessa Barbie she has spent years crafting her body and looks into a living replica of the doll.
But new snaps from the making of her debut movie would leave Barbie's makers Mattel horrified.
As well as her posing with the knife, she is shown with a shovel for grave digging and a voodoo doll.
Valeria plays a life-sized doll assassin controlled by an invading alien in the science fiction shocker.
She wrote: "A few black and white photos for you my dears.
"I've been missing you, soon we will be able to stay in touch all the time. Today is the last day filming! Yay!!"
(http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7315641.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/PAY-Valeria-Lukyanova.jpg)
Still scary?
She revealed that special contact lenses to give a spookier look were driving her mad.
She said: "Filming is amazing. Even though it is very difficult. My poor eyes, I thought I'd go blind after wearing these contact lenses all the time."
(http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7315644.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/PAY-Valeria-Lukyanova.jpg)
Striking a pose
But her out-of-this-world new look has gone down well with fans.
One social media user on the local Internet forum 'Stat' said: "You have an amazing body. Keep on working out, and I wish all human girls had the same body as you do."
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Convergent creepiness, dolls and blood.
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I don't think it's exactly what she'd have preferred - movie star attention and money is great if you want those things and she surely does; but it's hardly playing a prefect representative of the flying saucer people come to Earth on a mission to save us all teaching spiritual advancement.
However, she'd have loved this in her mid-teens during what I understand was a goth troll phase - and she still doesn't avoid shocking, au contraire...
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I don't think it's exactly what she'd have preferred - movie star attention and money is great if you want those things and she surely does; but it's hardly playing a prefect representative of the flying saucer people come to Earth on a mission to save us all teaching spiritual advancement.
However, she'd have loved this in her mid-teens during what I understand was a goth troll phase - and she still doesn't avoid shocking, au contraire...
Well, I think that sums up my sense of her rather nicely. Not that I scrutinized this because blood.
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"Fat Albert don't like to be scared." - Fat Albert's an easy imitation, by the way.
I did watch the trailer, despite being like you and Fat Albert - no gore, one gross image quick, not actually a very good trailer...
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I did manage to watch it, no sound, though.
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I could understand very little of what was said...
...I actually think that movie I described as her druthers could be a good great SF movie -starring her and her tiny waist and thick Slavic accent and weirdness and all likely making a convincing humanoid alien - with a sufficiently-smart script (not too bogged down in pushing her ideological agenda) and a good director...
I would seriously audition her for the hot space babe in something deep enough where making the alien alien mattered...
I won't be surprised if she's good in this slasher flick, (for all that I'd be surprised to learn it wasn't a direct to video low-budget crap-fest, Cannes screening notwithstanding. The premise calls for unearthly in her part...
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...I actually think that movie I described as her druthers could be a good great SF movie -starring her and her tiny waist and thick Slavic accent and weirdness and all likely making a convincing humanoid alien - with a sufficiently-smart script (not too bogged down in pushing her ideological agenda) and a good director...
For instance, a The Day the Earth Stood Still remake - she plays Michael Remey, and emphasize They Bring Wisdom and Peace...
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...I actually think that movie I described as her druthers could be a good great SF movie -starring her and her tiny waist and thick Slavic accent and weirdness and all likely making a convincing humanoid alien - with a sufficiently-smart script (not too bogged down in pushing her ideological agenda) and a good director...
For instance, a The Day the Earth Stood Still remake - she plays Michael Remey, and emphasize They Bring Wisdom and Peace...
That sounds ideal, except I see that they remade it in 2008.
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Musta sucked. The original was a real classic and there's plenty to work with there to make something even better. I would have heard of it if it'd been any good... Probably car chases and swearing and Klaatu's naked behind, and poorly-done, 'cause car chases sell tickets if they're any good, ditto for the star's butt...
-JEsus. It had Keanu Reeves in it.
YUP. Ignore all the lose and phail and do another remake...
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Dude! What gives? Why so harsh? Like he totally rocked out that Excellent Shakespeare Adventure, for sure!
"Well, I came down on the side of pretending to be somebody else in some other situation is acting, and pretending to be yourself in that same imaginary situation is simply called "pretending"."
- Rusty Edge, circa 2016
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That is a very large cat!
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Yep. Name of Behemoth, she claims. Far from the first pic she's posted of that fuzzy panther. She's allegedly 5'8" for size reference.
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Ask her how much it weighs.
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Okydoke - she usually doesn't reply to anything after the first three hours or so of a post -and it's late in Ukraine- but I'll try...
Done. "How much does Begemoth weigh? That's a big cat..."
You'll note, by the way, that she's got a human emotion on her face in the pic, and definitely better-looking that way...
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I don't see any emotion there. This is one seriously creepy woman. Why doesn't she ever smile?
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I think part of it's Eastern European model style - she used to do haughty, haughty, haughty, now gone deliberately low-affect.
My RL experience of Moldovans and Russians and other eastern euros is that they don't smile a lot and favor blank or sulky as default expressions. Very funny people if you get dry sarcasm, but you only hear a lot of that if they like/trust you... -I eventually figured out that a Moldovan chess crony's insults were actually a sign he liked me...
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...She 'like'd the question about what the cat weighs by the next day, but didn't answer. Not a good sign that it was even read, though she's supposed to be able to get by in English...
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There's been puzzling strangeness going on for months where the FB page she'd been using that seemed legit her sort of weird went quiet and at the same time the Valeria Mexico fan page changed names to Valeria Lukyanova Internaionale and got active in the same style and someone purporting to be her actually answered my question about what was going on with something about pages not under her control -confusing for me, not knowing who/what to believe or if she actually posts for herself anywhere- and the first page suddenly got real active a week or two ago posting click-bait stuff that at first rarely had anything to do with her and her career and her spiritual beliefs -seems not-all-all-legit- and got more Valeria-focused after a few days --- this was on that page yesterday and it's confusing, but this is something I think she'd like if a fan showed it to her...
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This was on the click-bait page this morning - whomever's posting, it's from her visit to Indonesia last year; a shot in that bikini next to that pool w/ tropical trees in the background was the first thing I did an astral space shoop of...
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If she did not espouse a number of exotic beliefs, then I suppose she would make a great poster woman for a number of political causes.
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Maybe I've become inoculated, but that one strikes me as pretty rather than creepy.
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No, it's definitely creepy.
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It's a matter of taste...
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That one is creepy!
Like a mannequin with real legs.
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Stumbled across this one as I was looking for something else.
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That's her mom in the middle, and her beta-Barbie Olga on the right...
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That's her mom in the middle, and her beta-Barbie Olga on the right...
I recognized her Mom, but Olga, is that her sister? You had a picture in this thread before, but she's probably older and had more surgery or something.
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Just a friend/minion. She has at least one sister, of whom I've posted pics before. Teenager w/ brown hair.
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Here's a 47 part click-bait about her:
http://www.kiwireport.com/untold-story-real-life-barbie/?utm_campaign=Real%20Barbie%20NoaR%20-%20Desktop%20USA%20OB&utm_source=OutBrain&utm_medium=Worldation&utm_content=0005bb9ce9b3aff6f2313e8ea8bcc72686&utm_term=The+untold+story+of+the+real-life+Barbie (http://www.kiwireport.com/untold-story-real-life-barbie/?utm_campaign=Real%20Barbie%20NoaR%20-%20Desktop%20USA%20OB&utm_source=OutBrain&utm_medium=Worldation&utm_content=0005bb9ce9b3aff6f2313e8ea8bcc72686&utm_term=The+untold+story+of+the+real-life+Barbie)
http://dtlon6z3v1kfl.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/20203042/valeria-lukyanova-without-makeup-barbie-doll-16.jpg (http://dtlon6z3v1kfl.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/20203042/valeria-lukyanova-without-makeup-barbie-doll-16.jpg)
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They are sick people! I saw a TV programme with this Barbie girl. She is absolutely sure she is attractive ???
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(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20799988_1990971751186459_3730963358939763694_n.jpg?oh=f500b42681eff80fc31aa02cc9c08451&oe=5A30F37E)
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She swore off quasi-skin pics a few years ago, alas - even swimsuit, which is a major part of why this thread had gotten no love for so long.
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WOW! That one is rather wasp-waisted. Reminds me of a woman that body shaped with corsets.
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Here, she appears to play Beyond Earth IRL...
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Regular Supremacy Affinity Disciple ::)
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She was at some point in the States, and you didn't... approach... her? ;wait
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Human Barbie Valeria Lukyanova on "The Doll", Music Career, Acting, DJing INTERVIEW
@Buster's Uncle, did you have seen this movie?
The Doll (original title) 1h 21min | Fantasy, Horror, Sci-Fi | 8 December 2017 (USA) (http://"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5176832/")
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She was at no point in America - just New York, California, Mexico.
I've HEARD of it, Pro - she promoted it heavily when it came out, of course.
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Her friend - Dominica
(https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-zen_doc/52716/pub_5f9a64b72603b20d513abb3d_5f9a6ad72676b17513df5da8/scale_2400)
And comparison before and after plastic
(https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-zen_doc/3769340/pub_5f9a64b72603b20d513abb3d_5f9a6c6d0e34a96ab38b7ef4/scale_1200)
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Old news. That's mostly just makeup and weight loss. She denies having anything done to her but her chest, though she also claims to never shoop her pics, which is, IMO, a lie. She's surely had her nose chiseled down.
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Let's see what's next in the Val folder...
Ah. She shooped in improved belly muscles. Also, something w/ her face.
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(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/222075/slide_222075_3536432_free.jpg)
I kinda miss the old eyes. Not because I was into them, but because that's how I remember her.
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Large iris contacts and makeup tricks.
She seems to be out of her space phase since she hooked up w/ the masons...
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She seems to be out of her space phase since she hooked up w/ the masons...
I had a mason once in a traveling group.
I can hear her pouting to share something already:
Crowd: ;unh
"Dear fellow masons, allow me to share this wisdom with you..." ;harmony
Crowd: ;health
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This old Valery classic...
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A different skinny blonde, but I give Miss Patricia Helfer…
(https://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=7893)
(https://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=7894)
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Let's see what the Valeria folder has for us next...
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For a being that wants to live on sunlight and air alone, she's suspiciously often in shade. ;lol
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With that complexion, she'd burst into flames.
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Topless...
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Not a fan of boob jobs, but I love that hair/nails/thong color combination. And what's that yellow green spot on her tummy?
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I believe that's a pendant.
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Plausible.
Beautiful location, too. I think I'd have acquired a tail and done a mermaid shoot while I was there.
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Beautiful. Thanks.
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Good news, then...
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...Because there's more.
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Part of it is that blue is my favorite color. Part of it is that I miss the ocean and the sun and weather warm enough for that. She and her husband are great at what they do.
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One more, then. ;nod
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I don't hate the muscles.
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This girl makes me so sad.
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This is a common sort of reaction to Valeria. Pray elucidate.
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Jayne Mansfield in The Sheriff of Fractured Jaw, the first thing I noticed her in as a kid.
(http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/Gerald_Lovell/vlcsnap-2012-08-21-20h49m15s190-1.jpg)
What she was doing and what I think Valeria intends aren't that alike - Mansfield just wanted to be a big star, and got stuck into a Marilyn Monroe-parody career path, but wanted to be appealing and liked, while Lukanova seems to be trying to shock her way to fame. Mansfield was notorious for having deliberately-engineered wardrobe malfunctions for the publicity.
But there are definite commonalities beyond the obvious not-looking-real thing. Notwithstanding that Mansfield's clown makeup and extreme physicality were far more to the mainstream tastes of her time, they both overall give off a stank of trying-too-hard desperation for fame. It certainly didn't end well for Mansfield, and Lukynova is not likely to still be famous in 10 years - women with that kind of career are finished as soon as they age much.
In my native culture, we have a term "showing your butt in public" (behaving inappropriately and in an undignified way)
- leaving aside the considerable appropriateness in these cases of applying it literally, looking like you're trying too hard to be famous is a form of butt-showing. It's tough to put a finger on the line between a woman pretty for a living using what's she's got to get ahead and looking cheap and desperate, but both tend to cross it.
(http://www.doctormacro.com/Images/Mansfield,%20Jayne/Annex/Annex%20-%20Mansfield,%20Jayne%20(Sheriff%20of%20Fractured%20Jaw,%20The)_01.jpg)
That waist mostly ain't girdle, and both DO play with extremes of physicality and inherently interrogate our perceptions of standards of beauty...
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Nice commentary/comparison, Buncle.
In Lukynova's case, I get a Dorothy Stratton/ Linda Lovelace vibe sometimes - as in a controlling boyfriend/spouse pursing his vision of a sex object and fortune at the same time.
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Yeah, I dunno.
There's plenty of women in the world who are pretty for a living - most lady newsreaders, for example. Many, if not most, women do what they can with what they got to get along. How hard, exactly, is trying TOO hard?
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I've been thinking that the ladies asking the questions lately are on the beautiful side. Ashley Parker and Alexi McCammond come to mind. Those are just the ones I can name. They seem to limit themselves to hair, makeup, and a smile. I guess that's appropriate for talking heads.
I consider Val a model, so her body counts, too. Not just her face. I don't think that she's "showing more butt" than the others in her profession.
I guess I think that I draw the "trying TOO hard" line at body modification, drugs, and inducing vomiting/diarrhea whether you're an actor, athlete, or model. I'm not talking about training with weights. I'm talking about changing your weight to the point of harming your health. Maybe it's time to let somebody else ride the horse or wear the dress or take the part. I had a cousin who wanted to play Division I college football. He walked on the team as a student. The trouble was that all of the muscle he had to add to do that gave him blood pressure problems. Bad idea.
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-She claimed to try to live off just sunlight.
However, I'd point out that for all she's slightly built - she's just not starved; she has buttocks. Fairly shapely ones.
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My. God. Becky. Look at her butt.
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I'm not wild about the rainbow hair...
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One could wonder if she had anything but 'swimming attire' in her luggage.
I mean, the last couple photos seems to have been taken from the same location.
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Who knows? She dresses up and poses wherever she goes.
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Rainbow hair keeps my nieces making money. I like it.
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It makes quite the parade, doesn't it? :P
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I guess so.
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Great muscle tone. I'm sure it has more to do with hard and consistent training than sunlight.
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Great muscle tone. I'm sure it has more to do with hard and consistent training than sunlight.
I don't think that last shot's shooped, either.
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I don't know if that's a dress or some kind of a leotard, but I'm liking it.
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Leotard - there's exercise gear around her.
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Do tell, are all those pics stored on your hard drive? :P
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So, in short, you're goin' for full ;harmony harmonysoldier
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Not bad w/ rainbow hair...
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Very nice hair.
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She often shoops in enhancement of the washboard abs, I think, and I do know something about shooping photos. -Maybe not in this case.
Something going on around her chest though, like she even bothers to lie about the RL enhancement there. ...And a bad job hiding something on her leg...
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See this and the babe thread are full of little xs from external image links gone bad - I just decided when I saw an interesting pic, I'd save it.
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I think this one is kinda old. That could be her real nose.
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My reaction was "Wow!"
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She clearly doesn't eat a LOT, but that isn't the bottom of an unhealthy, starving woman.
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And, at least in the days those pics were taken, she couldn't afford a professsional photographist. ;lol
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Oh, I doubt she posts most ever stuff taken by professionals - those pics belong to whomever she was modeling for.
Interesting question, there; do all the selfies and taken-by-minion-Olga pics count more as monumental self-involvement - or is it legitimate she's a model, among other things, and her look is her main asset?
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And, at least in the days those pics were taken, she couldn't afford a professsional photographist. ;lol
Also? Her husband is super-rich. She was a national beauty pageant winner in her teens, and I doubt she's had to pay a lot of photographers in her time -more like the other way around- or lacked the wherewithal much.
Happy Birthday.
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Yeah, soapy indeed. ;wait
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I really like this one. Probably the pose. Love the looking-over-my shoulder-to -catch -you -looking -at-my- butt pose. I often ask myself Is it the person? the pose? the outfit? the circumstances? the lighting?
Well, it's also the bath (circumstances). I normally like bath and shower pics.
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(https://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3982.0;attach=22048;image)
This one. You've caused me to look with more attention, and it is well-posed.
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I think I like the faux-Asian eye make-up better than the spalien /Barbie look, too.
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Overwatch?
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I like the contrast of the occasional not-tarted-up shot...
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I've seen a claim that as a teenager, she trolled Ukrainian boards as a witch. Not entirely un-credible...
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That last one is creepy to me in a child's face on a Barbie body kind of way.
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Looks like an advertisement for a movie called "wombraider". :P
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I get the impression she doesn't do sex - porn is hard to imagine.
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I believe this is from the horror movie she starred in, The Doll.
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Quite a number of pics from at least the first couple pages are gone. Did you change upload provider or something?
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Linkrot of offsite image links. The Babe thread is like that, too. -A big reason I started saving pics.
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She's taken a lot of hot shots in that green bikini...
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And the blue ribbons don't hurt either... ;lol
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"It's not the bikini," as an old beach movie put it, "It's the stuffing."
-How to stuff a Wild Bikini
-I didn't make that up.
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I elfed this upthread...
Poor shooping on her belly.
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But... that's the same background! ;wait
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I wonder if the flowers are fake too... :-*
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She's like, 5'9 - but weighs about 42k.
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I was talking about the size of the 2 pics prior to my previous post. :P
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No refund. ;nod
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I dunno why the ones I saved around that time are so small - but here.
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Obvious shoop is obvious. She looks hot, though, all orange in fake night...
Looks to be from that Vaal planet on real Star Trek.
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I think you have the planet's name wrong. Should be Vaaleria. ;llap
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Butt... that's the same outfit as 3 photo's ago! ;rimshot
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We're getting near the bottom of the folder. No refunds.
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We're getting near the bottom of the folder. No refunds.
Butt... that's not fair!
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so, honestly BU.
Is there a lot of filter/shopping going on with the freakishly proportioned face(s? different people or supposedly same?) or is that body modification?
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She claims to have had no work done except her bosoms - but she's almost certainly had her nose filed down, too. I think the rest is more-or-less real, avec considerable makeup, at which she shows some skill. Her waist is pretty consistent; maybe the dieting is all there is to it.
The signs of shooping I notice are all since she took up serious exercise, obviously to bring out the muscle tone; nothing of the sort in the older skinny pics.
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Sure. She think she da Queen.
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She claims to have had no work done except her bosoms - but she's almost certainly had her nose filed down, too. I think the rest is more-or-less real, avec considerable makeup, at which she shows some skill. Her waist is pretty consistent; maybe the dieting is all there is to it.
The signs of shooping I notice are all since she took up serious exercise, obviously to bring out the muscle tone; nothing of the sort in the older skinny pics.
I'm more talking about a seeming inconsistence in the jaw line and cheek bones. It could be a mixture of makeup and bad camerawork, or just shopping things.
I'd like to see the skull....
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I'd like to see the skull....
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Dunno - mostly selfies and impromptu amature shots, she IS good at makeup, you often don't know the vintage of the pic - and her face HAS changed since she was a teen, make of that what you will.
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Don't get me wrong, if not shopped, the ribcage is fubar as well, but that's a fairly well studied phenomenon you can google how corsets utterly alter ribcage shape to where I can explain it easily.
But the face here, if not shopped, either has some cool abnormal structure, or there's been enough plastic surgery done to change it drastically, which I know is a thing gaining popularity right now, especially with a wave of Asian women/girls trying to become more anime shaped (which this would be a similar procedure), but I haven't really seen a lot of medical evidence to suggest whether that's all done via tissue, or if we're actually getting into bone alterations, and the latter possibility fascinates me.
I've been kinda studying the whole sculpting a face on top of a skull for reasons, and I'm telling you stuff isn't lining up in these pics.
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Weeelll - she's got her haters, and the research/evidence has been made readily available...
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But she's either shopping, makeupping, or camera tricking away all highlights on her face. I'd guess at some combination of the three with possible surgery in the mix. The lower set of pictures, you can see fairly well defined cheek bone structure on the left which is absent in all the other pics, and a bit with the chin as well. This probably accounts for the carefully neutral mouth positioning on the vast majority of the pics as well as you don't want to make the job of hiding that harder.
I don't understand the desire to hide cheek bones, but recognize it as a thing, more curious the mechanics of it.
Me, I'm a fan of bones...
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I wonder. She's angling her chin down in both the right, later, shots. Could the difference in apparent jawline -plus makeup- be as simple as that?
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That last pic you post is a great example of the invisible cheek bones. Take the right side of her face. Either my color blindness is going overdrive or she appears to have a 2 dimensional/monotone face from just below her eye to her lower jaw. A little shadow to frame the jaw at the edges, but it's not normal to have no highlight/shading around the eyes and cheek. I'm sure makeup CAN produce that effect to a degree. I know lighting and exposure on the actual shot can as well. I also know filters and shop can. Just kinda curious the mix that's producing the effect.
(https://st2.depositphotos.com/9168860/46803/v/1600/depositphotos_468032526-stock-illustration-female-facial-muscles-detailed-face.jpg)
No nasalabial sulcus to the sides of the nose. No mentolabial sulcus under the mouth to form the chin. The entire zygomatic process looking wrong.
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Right. And you can see where she means to do that, the last pic being at a transitory stage between her neotenic phase and the bodybuilding.
Like, I don't think she's actually going for a Barbie doll look --- but flying saucer people sort of plastic perfection isn't that different. And she does seem to intend to provoke an unsettling uncanny valley effect reaction...
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Oh, yeah, whatever she's doing is intentionally hiding all that, I'm just not sure the ratio of photography tricks, shopping, makeup, and body modification.
And willing to lay odds on corset/similar for ribcage alterations. Though I'm aware of surgical answers to that as well.
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Hmmm. She didn't have a freaky small waist as a teen beauty queen...
It's not waist at that point, it's an entire torso being freaky small. That body mod starts well up into the ribcage.
(https://www.rcseng.ac.uk/library-and-publications/library/blog/effects-of-the-corset/-/media/fec0c16dab6141a7a37d5073423fc8a9.ashx?h=300&w=455)
But....like I said, I'm aware of modern 'alternatives'.
https://www.artisanofbeauty.com/rib-removal-surgery/
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Hmm. Here's a shot she posted today - looks to be shooped around the jawline, at least. Probably the cheeks.
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Its even the wrong galaxy!
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Maybe she's from Galaxy X to begin with.
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The XXX-files? ;lol
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She doesn't seem interested in sex.
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Its more the irony of connecting it with the X-files.
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If we have to believe YOU, she believes she is a saucer person.
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Rather unfortunate as they push it too hard. Photo would look better with the flashes toned down.
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She usually has hair hiding the corners of her jaw, or an angle where it doesn't matter. I wonder how conscious she is/was of going for a slightly neotenic thing.
Now today's shot, obviously post-bodyshaping, looks more like her authentic teen face, w/o the sulky.
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Jumping to the head of the line for Uno, a recent profile w/ freaky contacts.
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Jumping to the head of the line for Uno, a recent profile w/ freaky contacts.
Ah, you had a Plan! ;lol
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Her?
Or The Prisoner?
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Yesss, her...
I know nothing of The Prisoner, Jon!
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Kid today - no sense of history. Goggle it; starred Patrick McGoohan.
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Kid today - no sense of history. Goggle it; starred Patrick McGoohan.
Ah, got it now. He also was a 'number six'.
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This, I understand, is posing for an avatar shot for a game or some internet life simulator thing like that.
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Posted on FB eight hours ago:
I love creativity in all forms.
I also have a creative approach to my appearance. My face is a canvas, and my look and makeup always definitely convey my mood and condition.
That's the way all people have. But they don't think about it. Their life goes as it goes.
But from the outer appearance of a person you can immediately tell what he is inside. Creative or not, living happily and brightly, or boring. It is immediately clear how a person treats himself, what tastes he has, whether he is aesthetics or not.
I started to meet people who are straightforward and have a creative Avatar. During my mother's youth, in the movies, and before, you often meet such people, but nowadays you don't. And I'm not only talking about the appearance, but also about the inner filling, which is always obvious to the living people, the Players. Since we feel each other right away. This is felt by energy, then visual receptors are turned on.
I love nature, human beauty and animals. I like ANY beauty when it is bright and inspiring. What about you? #esoteric #beauty #slavyanka #magic #magic #immortality #awareness #creativity #image #style #elfie
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This is something to do with promoting a Magic Flying Saucer Girl balm of some sort. -It's usually something like that when she's holding up something small.
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I don't think she's selling gourds here...
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Is that... a union flag there in the background? :P
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I believe it's a US flag bent in the wind at the moment of the photo - but she travels a LOT, so who can say?
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Looking as how the cars are parked, probably a French cathedral.
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She travels a lot.
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Mmm... or else a wellness center in Schwarzwald?
The shape of the tower in the background reminds me more of German architecture.
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Wellness center sounds more her speed - and the church looks to be across the road...
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Big smile.
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Sloppy sloppy sloppy! Advertizing without making a profit out of it yourself! ;lol
("The Roosevelt Hotel" on the plaque downstairs)
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Big hair.
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You're in a wild phase, BUncle? Those pics you're posting lately mostly involve wavey hair... :P
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Nah - I just post in the order I saved them.
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What the heck is that symbol on the laptop?
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Masonic Lodge. She's in with the masons a few years ago, and that's her necklace, too.
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She should be careful upthere. An eagle might mistake her for a snack.
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I'm really liking this picture. All of those gold tones make her eyes stand out more than the make-up ever did.
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You should offer your helmet. :P
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Damn. Not enough background visible to make an educated guess at the location.
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Southern California, most likely - but possibly Mexico or somewhere like Thailand.
-This one's on a beach that could be anywhere. That little sweater's doing a lot of work.
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Southern California, most likely - but possibly Mexico or somewhere like Thailand.
I had Thailand in mind as well.
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Again; little sweater, much work.
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So its a left-driving country...
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I do believe that shot is flipped - what she's holding up says "SAMADHI" backwards in English.
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I like the little gray sweater, but that beach she's on is a bit dire.
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Maybe a Black Sea beach eh?
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I suspect so - she used to live in Odessa.
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Ah, lavender. Just been replanted in the flower bed on the front of our building.
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There's an alien in each of her. ;leia
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How weird, someone else in the picture? ;lol
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Her husband and/or the jet's owner? She takes a lot of pics on that plane...
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Now that I look closer, the others person's reflection in the rable is blurred.
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The table could use a paint job. ;lol
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Why. In. God's. Name. are you looking at the table?
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Haven't you noticed yet? :P
Just a little game I'm playin' with you.
Your interest is obvious, I instead care to commentt on the background/surroundings of the pics.
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Finally. After a long flight she has reached Vogue! ;hippy
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Blade Runner?
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It's one of my favorite movies.
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Nice table.
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We'll be seeing a lot of this white dress.
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Nice table.
Should've been a globe of her world... :P
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It doesn't look like Mars, does it?
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Even less so like Venus.
Why did I just say that? :-[
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Crete?
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Switzerland?
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I couldn't say about Crete, but her "Switzerland" is a drive-on-the-right country w/ signage in English...
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German/Eastern European castle or grand house?
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No tellin' with her. Can you make out what it says over the fireplace?
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I can't spot any lettering/text in the picture.
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Most likely, that's a Masonic Lodge space somewhere - note her necklace.
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I recall that this is from a tour of one of those freeze-your-head-type cryogenics facilities...
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For Uno, I'll note that most of this year's pics feature a grown woman makeup style - I wonder how the visible cheekbones, etc., inform speculation about the underlying structure of her face, and so on...
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I recall that this is from a tour of one of those freeze-your-head-type cryogenics facilities...
*shiver me timbers*...
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For Uno, I'll note that most of this year's pics feature a grown woman makeup style - I wonder how the visible cheekbones, etc., inform speculation about the underlying structure of her face, and so on...
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I believe that Rt. 66 behind her, east of Amboy, California - Mohave Desert, for sure.
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Now, is that an UFO flashing by at the top left edge of the pic, or simply a light pole. :P
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I'm afraid the light poles along there do look like that.
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Darn, again no ET's... :-\
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I forget. What year was she born?
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1985, according to Wikipedia.
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This may well still be Rt. 66...
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No tellin' where this is...
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'kay... ;cute
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Who cares where this was taken?
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I'm thinking Russia in summer, though.
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The wallpaper / paintjob does indicate that.
Btw, that was a bad attempt of her to disguise the bra. :-*
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Mexico City, I'd guess.
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No self-image in the background thus? ;cute
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I'm sure that had something to do with its appeal as a backdrop...
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Puerto Rico? ;cute
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Probably Florida.
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Odessa beach again?
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She claims to go through spells of Mexico. I note the hill in the background and suspect it couldn't be Miami...
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I really like her hair and make-up on that last one.
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...I suspect she bleaches her hair to the point of damaging it a little --- but she certainly does some nice things with it. And I do prefer the adult human face she's been painting on lately...
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Indi...onesia?
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Mex-ico?
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Mex-ico?
Can Professor Mylochka confirm that statue's headdress is typical for the Aztec or Maya's?
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I 'spect I know more about that - and no, that's a Buddha headdress --- but the long ears would be familiar to a Mexican.
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Who needs some lashes? :P
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Rum and sodomy?
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No lashes for you, only a lashing. ::)
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Mexico!
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She claims to live there now.
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She claims to live there now.
Says where?
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On Facebook - last time, just a few days ago.
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LA? :P
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Probably - is the Hollwood sign authentic?
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Probably - is the Hollwood sign authentic?
Well, there's a transmission tower kinda in the right spot on the right of the sign.
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New York?
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[shrugs]
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Just for you, honey! ;lol
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Just for you.
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She not be a librarian. ;)
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Maybe.
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Somewhere in the southwestern States?
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Probably - I'd've guessed Italy if not for the Yield sign in English...
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Probably - I'd've guessed Italy if not for the Yield sign in English...
Italy? No way. On a stretch (and without the sign) Spain was a possibility.
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That's strange. You haven't changed your avatar to a pic of you with helmet on?
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I don't remember a helmet avatar.
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First war, then domination?
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She got the whole white world in her hands.
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UUUU.SSSSSS.AAAAA.
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We got ourselves a patriot here...
UUUUU.SSSSSSS.AAAAAA.!!!
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I don't get it.
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I don't get it.
Those two pics seems to be taken on an excursion raft somewhere in the States.
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Probably. The lifejacket over her head in the very first shot says "ASHLEY", only the pic's been flipped. Surely the name of the tour boat.
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Talking about upholstered employee outfits. :P
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She's living proof that pizza-deficiency causes unhappiness.
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She's living proof that pizza-deficiency causes unhappiness.
;lol ;b;
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She went Masonic on this one. :P
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Bloody hell. I had no idea those temples were so massive.
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I think one or two in Mexico City are actually larger than the Great Pyramid, if not as tall...
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She's eased up on the No Skin policy recently...
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She posted this to complain that it didn't mention she lives in Mexico now.
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She really can smile! She doesn't have to wear skimpy clothes or unique makeup to be pretty. I hope you have a happy New Year, Val.
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For a second I thought it was the Santa Ana Cathedral at Las Palmas de Gran Canaria.
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I do like her in the plaid thing.
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Is that a marten?
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(https://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3982.0;attach=23277;image)
Is that a marten?
Looks like maybe a lesser panda to me.
Make up your own joke.
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It's a coati or coati mundi.
Think of it as a Latin American racoon. They like grapes.
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Who doesn't?
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Eggs, too as I recall.
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Again, so do I.
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Gosh, Geo; I think this is in Mexico...
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Really? Would've sworn it was Guatemala. :P
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I'd have sworn she's got junk in the trunk.
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I think she still eats air often.
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She seems really glad to see that monkey...
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Ah, the tight plaid thing again...
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Munich?
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Sri Lanka?
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Kuala Lampur?
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Not if the roof of the shed on the background is something to go with.
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Tierra Del Fuego?
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;platform
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Timm-buk-tuuuu?
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Detroit?
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Hea-ven?
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New Joisy?
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Noo. Brunswick?
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The not-Mona Lisa?
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She frequently seems to consciously go for an angel thing - see two and three posts back...
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Marine-camouflage?
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I suppose so.
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Ye-low bikini on the Lake Bai-kal beach?
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;notes; Yellow Submarine, Yellow Submarine,... ;notes;
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DIIIIIVE!
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She posted some old ones a few months back - some point about the efficacy of her spiritual self-improvement seminars. This one isn't all that old, but maybe as much as ten years...
I also like to post the older stuff for Uno's study of her facial anatomy...
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Shoop note in case of Uno: Whomever shoops her pics didn't work this over hard, I think, but the parts of her in shadow are a little too clear, her lighting highlights don't match the brightness of the background, and she doesn't blend in, quite. IMO, taken right there, but central figure lighting contrast improved, which makes the details slightly suspect. -She also could have been completely in the shadow of a huge beach umbrella or something, and I'm wrong, -or that's what made some contrast fiddling really needed to let her and the beach/ocean look pretty at the same time.
Whomever shoops her is very good, btw. Photos are très hard to hide the seams of the work.
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Of course she is almost certainly the shooper. I keep saying she has real talent.
-This happens to show more facial anatomy than usual, Uno.
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She posted pics yesterday with her embracing the creepy-looking husband, and made it quite clear that they are compatible and she loves him - closing with reminding us he ain't gettin' none from her. We'll get to her current European tour in due time.
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She's like, 37 or 38 now, and wearing it very well. That ain't all the surgeon and eating air keeping her up so good; she actually must do actual healthy things a lot.
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Wikipedia indicates that it'll be 38 on the 11th of November...
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Oh god, the crowbars are a-comin' soon! ;lol
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Crowbars? -Wrinkles?
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Crowbars? -Wrinkles?
Yup. But around the eyes then, not the face (or other parts of the body).
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Safe to assume, yes.
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Crowsfeet is the term you were meaning to use. It was on the tip of my brain all along, not quite surfacing...
-Another oldy below, w/ her figure still on factory settings, but above average-looking for that.
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The swimsuit is one she used a lot immediately after winning --- Miss Diamond Crown of the World, I think it was- and the modeling opportunities that came with it. I.E., original body, nose chest...
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My Buncle powahz say she's on a golf course somewhere they have those...
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Dental emergency interrupted lunch, so I'm late w/ today's pic of a certain fine-looking Moldavian...
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And today I just got distracted, so LESS late...
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Well - still a fine-looking woman from all the other times I said so or hinted.
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That's the weirdest hex map of a civ game I've evar seen. :P
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Don't front that you don't want to play a game or two on that map.
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This particular sort of outfit, summer casual shorts and short shirt, is not my favorite on her -her legs look a little too thin like that- but hard to go wrong with a small waist and some abdominal definition showing...
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Looks like just underwear, but hard to say.
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I think she's definitely on a beach here, Geo.
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Where you think? Aurora V? Eos II? Dawn VII? Another?
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Best guess is a Crimean beach several years ago - either a prettier one, or at least on a brighter day than some bleak-looking beach shots we have previously guessed were on the Black Sea...
But Mexico, for all I can tell - she went through a blue/exotic-color hair period a while back, and I'm not sure if she'd moved yet then...
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Small waist, abdominal definition showing = not bad.
Geo, I discern at this was taken in a hotel room in a country not dirt-floor poor...
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-Not because there's a floor in the shot, but because in a very poor country the hotels tend to go from VERY cheap to over-the-top lavish w/ little in between. Am I wrong? This one could be a Motel 6 in the US, looks small and unadorned, but basically clean.
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Clean motels in teh USA? ;tonguecheek
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Oh. Maybe. It could happen.
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Really, you're not going to see the door that close to the bed in the US, and floors tend to always be carpeted...
Why not wood floor -as it looks in the pic, or tile/linoleum- for ease of cleaning, I do not know.
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Really, you're not going to see the door that close to the bed in the US, and floors tend to always be carpeted...
Isn't that a bathroom door? The wall it is attached to looks quite thin...
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You're doubtless correct, but still sign of a quite small room, by US hotel standards.
-Stupid of us, IMO. A room is way mostly just a place to sleep, for the main use, travelling overnight breaks.
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Small waist, etc., = hawt.
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Testing something...
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Cute enough in the black wig...
Geo, this is definitely indoors, somewhere in a country, planet Earth.
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Roughly 6-10 years ago, and obviously a modeled shot...
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It's a beach, Geo. Beside an ocean, or other body of water five miles or more across.
(https://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3982.0;attach=23688)
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You sure the background ain't photoshopped?
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Not sure, but the person who shoops her stuff ain't THAT good...
That lighting matches, at least.
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That's almost a smile.
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Yeah - I'm seeing smiles and near-to more often these days.
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There's people in the background!
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It's been known to happen...
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There's no one but her - which I don't think is an entirely unfair slam...
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;banjo Mirror mirror on the wall... ;notes;
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:P
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Spacesuit on an airplane.
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Beautiful.
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That counts as a smile!
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Agreed.
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Look! A turtle!! :P
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It seems happy there.
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Mex-ico?
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Is that a whale's tail-splash in the background? ;cute
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Doubt it.
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People in the background!
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They aren't real.
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LOOK! The sun shines down from the heavens when she smiles. Or that other galaxy, I forget the particulars of her earlier pronouncements.
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Kinda hard to see. Are those wooden chairs in the background now part of the wall painting, or not? The shadows let me believe they do...
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I doubt it.
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A stepped pool!
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A husband who isn't getting any.
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A stepped husband!
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Could be.
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Fake straw roof!
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The straw may be real straw. ;nod
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And for the heck of it, Jayne Mansfield again.
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bathroom ta(i)l(e)s!
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Sometimes, with the right kind of picture, I have to think of the following quote:
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Where's the library? ;cute
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Belgium.
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Cyrilic documents! From Outer Space!
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Mmmaybe.
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Is that... Another sun in the background?
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Yes. It rises in the East, and sets in Val's ceiling.
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She claims to be in Brussels this weekend.
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Bruxelles_Manneken_Pis_cropped.jpg/250px-Bruxelles_Manneken_Pis_cropped.jpg)
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Dunno. That looks Italian.
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Safi is a Moroccon city, or a Malteser village.
Could just be a pic of last year, the guy on the groundfloor in the background is wearing a mask.
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I was talking about the baby.
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I was talking about the baby.
;lol
I sucgest you look up the lanmarks of Brussels.
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Eww no.
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I believe we're up to her last tour of Europe, in which case this is probably Portugal...
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Only three nudes in the pic? :P
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You're assuming - I only see two.
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GEOmetry and BUlance demands there be three statues underneath the tabletop. ;wait
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But the hidden one isn't in the pic.
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Lies! You can see the tip of its feet in this new picture! ;lalala
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Ya think?
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Ya think?
To say it with Alanis Morissette's words: 'and yeah, I DO think.'
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She's not American.
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She's not American.
Neither are you?
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I totally am.
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But... in the past you always talked as if Mylochka lived in America, indicating you do not! ;cute
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'Merica, Burke County, NC! :P
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In BOLD, so you're proud to be 'Merican!
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...I'm bold about it...
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Back to pictures? A madame Tussauds museum? ;cute
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Matise museum, maybe.
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Someone likes to stand in the middle of things..
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I'd noticed she put her foot on the center, yes. Some mystic design - a masonic headquarters?
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A typical cathedral, yes. :P
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Indoor Masonic Garden?
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Dunno.
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NOT the bed of Louis XIV.
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Portugal, maybe, though this may not be...
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Yeah; there's palm trees in the next beach shot.
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No circles in the sand?
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You tell me.
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Nope, only footprints.
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I been told.
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Dunno - she posted it, no idea who made it.
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Oh, there's (at least) three totems/pillars in the background, not just two.
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Def. Portugal...
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I still think she looks best in wavy hair and/or a smile.
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That's what time it is.
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Such a simple maze in the background.
Btw, why is that lightpole to the right of the pic crooked?
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Superman was drunk.
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But... She's your superwoman?!
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She's some nut - an oddly hot one, but a nut.
She thinks she's superwoman.
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She seems pretty fond of the new clock purse.
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Does it actually work as a clock, I wonder?
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Possibly. The time seems to change, although it's usually around 5:30- 6:00. But that could be "the golden hour" with the best natural lighting wherever/whenever she happens to be. I'll upgrade that to Probably.
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Space friend?
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Space friend?
What happens when a space gal and space babe meet?
Selfie!
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Something spacy, that's for sure.
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Spain, maybe?
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Looking at the houses, it looks more a Alpine/Balkan setting.
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Probably Germany, then.
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Mmm... the Baltic Sea...
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Still Germany?
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Space lab?
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Carpenter. ;nod
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Tattoo parlor. ;nod
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No - really, now that I've said it.
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I haven't decided if that's a purse with a working clock, or a time machine, but the dial is usually different.
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I haven't decided if that's a purse with a working clock, or a time machine, but the dial is usually different.
It's a Mood'o'meter! ;nod
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Definitely a bad mood. ;nod
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I do like that dress.
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A South-European shopping street. :)
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Looks a little like Milan, but maybe too clean, and I don't recall her touring Italy this trip. Maybe Spain.
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Church.
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A Block House. Propably Germany then.
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Maybe not from the trip...
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I love the way Val's hair matches her pants in the church picture.
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A palm tree in the (far right) background?
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Could be.
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Isn't that Portuguese?
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A dyke?
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A dyke?
;no
A breakwater ;nod
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A Turkish surprise.
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Sophia is her name! ;cute
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Latvia?
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Can't tell. I don't see a Russian Army Group in the background.
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That's mostly a pun.
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Specially made for a pin-up. ;cute
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Yes.
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Mediterranean beach (from the look of the waterline).
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Sorry; I'm a little behind on these...
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Good to be back.
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An old one, I think.
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Def old.
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Looks like a lib where one or the other variant of Cyrillic script is displayed.
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I wonder where? None of the pics at the time was labeled as anywhere further east than Germany.
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Arabian Mermaid?
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Skinny white chick in a bikini. ;nod
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Is that... Cthulhu on the wall behind the skinny white
skeleteon chick?
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I'm going with yes.
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The clock purse is back.
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Is that... Pseudolithic art on the balcony wall beyond the window?
If so, I'd go for a Black Sea view for the background view.
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I guess Val didn't get the part in the movie.
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Which movie?
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Barbie
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Ah.
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Instead of a Grey, a Green on her... erm... chest.
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AH! You looked.
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NOT Canary Islands. I don't see a Dragon Tree.
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This, ISTR, is in Turkey - so probably that.
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The difference between the two long-time weds is striking. ;lol
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Weds?
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Weds?
I thought you said they're married? The wedded ones?
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Different flavors of creepy.
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That there's one them, whatchacallit, skinny white chicks in a bikini.
Probably in Turkey.
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Something to do with the skin care products she flacks, no doubt.
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Say hi to the photographer.
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Hi, Dimitry!
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No tellin' where with a German flag in the background.
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I believe that's the Reichstag, in Berlin.
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Is that why there's backwards German on the building behind her?
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Space Germany friend?
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More like "pink friend".
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She's a communist? How can you tell from one pic?
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Too neath to be in France.
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Still Germany, I reckon.
"Neath"?
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Still Germany, I reckon.
"Neath"?
wrong expression.
"Too tidy" would be better.
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Ah, much love for the French, I see...
-This one looks like back in Turkey; she doesn't always say where, I rarely recall, and it's not like she's careful to post in order...
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Ah, much love for the French, I see...
Know thy history... :stickpoke:
-This one looks like back in Turkey; she doesn't always say where, I rarely recall, and it's not like she's careful to post in order...
Cthulhu! ;cthulu
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...Or Senethro...
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Senethro.
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Com-munism?
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La femme Nikita.
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En Frasaise?
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C'est toute en rouge eh?
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Peut être, peut être.
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Central or Eastern-European city?
Looks like a cross between a French and an Italian city.
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Looks maybe Austrian to me - but probably still Germany.
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I'm guessing Turkish cave...
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I'm guessing Terran cave. :P
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Why are you trying to lick me?
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I'm innocent to all charges!
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That's a dubious claim.
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That's a dubious claim.
You should have posted a picture of Dubai with that! :stickpoke:
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I am ashamed.
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I don't like mustard, but I like it on her.
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Oh, Portugal again?
You should come get some mustard here. Its color is more between tan and yellow here.
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-But still tastes like mustard, I bet.
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-But still tastes like mustard, I bet.
Why, of course! ;relish
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Yuck.
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Probably chillin' w/ Senethro in Turkey again.
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I admire the ginger wig.
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I doubt it's a wig...
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Meanwhile, back at the meth lab...
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Its for space cake.
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-Which doubles as space makeup!
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Either a one-way street or the photo was taken in the UK.
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She flips her pics a lot...
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She flips her pics a lot...
There's another explanation, the balcony/wall edge blocks the view of the opposite lane.
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Could be, but she does flip them a lot.
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Dali museum in Portugal, IIRC.
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A plot hatched!
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^Still the Dali museum, I think, and the attached - so still Portugal.
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Hello, Dali.
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Gosh - it's like she flipped this shot...
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Of course she did. Its Amsterdam(ned).
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If you say so...
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Not Holland this time, I'm thinking.
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Well, she certainly doesn't seem to stand somewhere in Cadzand. ;lol
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Appearantly still in the Netherlands.
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-And flipped.
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Maybe not the Netherlands here.
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Could be the garden of a B&B (in the Netherlands).
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I'm committed to reading this entire topic from page one-- because it starts off so funny with the whole bump-in-traffic dilemma. Then, I jump a decade in the future thinking... "what could possibly keep this thread going for 10 years!?!" To find that AC2 has a miniature cult following with a decade history ;lol
I just want to say-- i think the only appropriate ending for this topic would be BUncle posting a photo of meeting barbie irl.
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Oh lord - I didn't realize we passed 10 years last month.
Could be the garden of a B&B (in the Netherlands).
She's not dressed for Holland in January, I don't think.
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What makes you think the picture was taken in January?
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That's roughly when she was touring Europe.
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That's roughly when she was touring Europe.
We had a relatively warm winter season this year.
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Val also looks younger when she smiles. She looks happy, and I hope she is.
I am reminded of a pair of wool pants I had circa 1970.
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Definitely in a southern country.
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Oh?
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Oh?
The titles on the books seem to be Spanish or Portugese.
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Is this AI GPT something or other? I'm not sure what to make of AI body imagery trends.
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She's real.
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