Alpha Centauri 2

Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri & Alien Crossfire => Modding => Topic started by: Kilkakon on March 25, 2014, 01:36:23 AM

Title: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on March 25, 2014, 01:36:23 AM

Hello there everyone. Been a while for some! Just thought I would let you know how I have been going and what's been going on in my head the last few days, as well as some history of my dealings with the AC community, before going into some decisions that I've made. When I first entered the AC community, I asked for some balance suggestions for my at the time offline naked Pokemon mod. Vyeh helped me out a bit and then got me to turn it into a public total conversion, promising me that people would play it and it'd be enjoyable for all. Production took forever but eventually I put out a beta that was pretty much universally ignored. Cut a bit later, something happened and vyeh disappeared. BU then took me up and brought me over to WPC with much the same promise as vyeh, and then we both moved here to AC2. So yeah, I joined the AC community because I wanted to find people who'd enjoy my mod. This didn't work. I've certainly gathered respect for my attention to detail, general modding prowess and just the years of work I put into the thing, but yeah, never really got players (yes, I'll admit a few people gave it a go for half a game but we never saw them again). Basically, I needed an AC fan who liked my game, but there was nobody really available, and that's why I've drifted away from the forums of late. I don't think BU has forgiven me for my deleting my Skype account either as I haven't heard anything from him for months other than him copy/pasting links of people needing into a PM. It's nothing personal man. :D I actually ended up setting up another one about a week ago anyway.

Personally, this week, I have been coming to the decision of taking the majority of my naked content offline. I want to protect it from the deviants out there who'd want to tear it all apart, and it's just something I feel God's asking me to do anyway. It's just safer for everybody that way. I'm not changing (I still wuvs my charmanders <3), I'm just changing my image. Might make a little Astro Boy/Megaman dude as my avatar.

Long story short, the two factors above have placed LE firmly in the crosshairs. Normally I wouldn't even consider axing a project I've spent so long working on but at the end of the day it's not like anybody plays the thing. So what I am currently thinking is the best way to go is removing the project from the internet, and releasing the various non-pokemon art assets that I have created as resources for other modders to use. There's a good 17 cities that I've made, most of them being things that AC's never had before, so I'm sure that many would enjoy using the cities as bases in AC. There's also the HUD and other elements I've done, removing scanlines from a lot of the images and so on. So pretty much any context that isn't a pokemon with a willy on would be available for people to download and use in their own work.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 25, 2014, 01:39:10 AM

Kil - it was more lethargic depression than any annoyance with you....

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on March 25, 2014, 01:44:25 AM

Okay. :) Well no offence was taken in any event.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 25, 2014, 01:51:16 AM

I'm having a bad day, a really bad day, so I don't have the energy to say "human versions" again.  I would lose it when you demurred.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2014, 12:51:31 AM

Note the change in my postbit, BTW...  :P

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on March 27, 2014, 12:55:09 AM

Haha what do I owe you?

As far as LE stuff goes, I assume the general popup scanline-less pcxs, interface HUD and cities would be the main things of interest for people.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2014, 12:57:14 AM

That was fast. 

Tech pages.

It's a fine mod, and people would play it if you'd change seven leaderheads.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on March 27, 2014, 01:02:50 AM

*facepalms* Shows how much everybody knew about it. There's 15 leaders, not 7. And the game itself had plenty more pokemon in it too you know. Still, can't really be bothered trying to find 14 pictures of naked kids to put up there. Honestly everybody's refusal to even try it makes me disinterested in touching the thing again. I regret posting on CFC in the first place. Was a worthwhile experience though, I suppose, learning that the internet is generally hostile.

And right. I thought those had fallen into irrelevance due to the wiki, but right.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on March 27, 2014, 01:20:04 AM

Really, the only things that would see play here in my opinion would be scrapping the mod and making them as custom factions instead. :) Jarl likes Betrayed, for example.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2014, 01:23:27 AM

Siigh.  When can I expect those tech pages, before you abandon me?

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on March 27, 2014, 01:29:13 AM

Nothing personal man. You're always welcome to keep in touch! The AC folks at large just didn't have the spare players to keep a pokemon spin-off going it seems.

I'm currently working on an April Fools mod, which should be done in a few days. After that, making a new persona to replace the totodile for public work. I don't have anything else urgent after those two.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2014, 01:35:25 AM

I'm taking it personally.  It feels like you're taking a whiz on all the time I've spent trying to help.

Don't mind me - I'll be off in the corner alone posting science articles and trying not to be bitter. :P

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on March 27, 2014, 01:43:39 AM

Yeah don't be bitter hey. I could get all worked up on how I've been used for content for 3 years without getting what I wanted back out of the deal: players enjoying my game--but no point doing that really. :) And rather than just fade into obscurity like I have been doing the last few months I thought it'd be better to actually provide some content for others to use.

I'll stay subbed to the mod forum though so my knowledge won't be disappearing. I won't be actively working on AC but hey I don't mind helping out.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2014, 01:47:10 AM

Nobody loves me.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2014, 03:03:49 AM

Quote from: Kilkakon on March 27, 2014, 01:43:39 AM

I'll stay subbed to the mod forum though so my knowledge won't be disappearing. I won't be actively working on AC but hey I don't mind helping out.

;b; to that.



It's just -- A few hours before you started this thread, I went onto the back porch and found Diego dead. ;realdog

... ...

... ...

...I'd known it was coming, but I'd hoped not so soon.  There's this bleak, black feeling to that, y'know?  Suddenly this little personality I adored was just spoiled meat; gone - nullified.  That's tough to take.  It'd be ever so nice if life didn't keep making me feel like everyone I care about is going to leave me.

Do me a favor, and have a look at the smilies thread in Rec Commons.  I've posted a bunch of tutorials lately, and it's something I can imagine you really getting into.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: JarlWolf on March 27, 2014, 03:29:11 AM

BUncle, if you need to talk, I have ears and eyes willing to observe and listen... and you saying nobody loves you is [nonsense] and you know it. I love you BUncle, you are my tovarishi and comrade and you've helped me a fair deal not just technically but giving me a little motivation to live and do stuff. I was near dying from sickness this past year and you know what gave me a little bit of spark, something to look forward to socially? This forum and the people in it. I'm old, most of my friends have already departed and im growing ever more distant from my family. I feel like giving back to people, and if anything giving back to you, the damned pillar of this forum. Don't sell yourself short... a beloved dog may die, day may pass, but I'll be damned before I see a good friend think he has no support. You might be a pillar, but no pillar stands without a pedestal, and your pedestal is the people who care about you. I'm one of them dammit, and don't you forget that... I care for your well being.



On the note of your Lost Eden mod Kilkakon, maybe you've just been aiming it at the wrong audience- sort of firing a proposal per say, comparison sake of an Oktoberfest festival to Muslims or Mormons. Not saying that there hasn't been interest here, its just a matter of where your advertising the thing:

Have you considered showing this to Pokemon related forums, pitching the idea to a younger crowd perhaps? Not only would you get people genuinely interested in the genre your mod uses, you also get youngsters interested in AC2. And from that we could potentially support you by educating any newcomers and supporting with other issues...

I know you might be embittered right now... but its a thought...

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2014, 03:34:37 AM

Salute, tove.  :salute: [moist eyes]  I don't know what I'd do without you.

This speaks to something I love about our community - we support each other.  Kil, I was square with you and told you I was using you for content.  On some level, all personal interaction is selfish, if you want to look at it that way.  -But on another, it's an unchristian way to see people just being good to each other.  I really am your friend, as you know.  I'm good at promoting, and I really thought I could sell LE. [shrugs]

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: JarlWolf on March 27, 2014, 03:39:46 AM

Slava BUncle, Slava tovarishi!

Edit:


And we can still help you Kilkakon. I think its just a matter of targeting the right audience, the right pedestal of support- We can help build your pillar, your pantheon but you need to find the correct fanbase. I don't know your genre too well, but you might know some places to start. Veer away from civ fanatics or such, who might not be as welcoming to such a genre. Focus instead on the actual genre itself, is my honest advice.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2014, 03:47:04 AM

He can't get poke'fans interested in SMACX, either.  He's tried.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: JarlWolf on March 27, 2014, 03:57:01 AM

Well; whatever your course of action Kilkakon... I advise you this- don't completely destroy all your work and remove it forever. The audience for it right now may not exist or be full, but down the road there could potentially be people trying to find something specific like this. They might re-discover this game and then see your unique mod, and try something new... there is a saying that many great artist's works only become famous after their death/lifetime.... and while im not saying you won't see your work being cherished within your lifetime, maybe it needs time. I'm an optimist, and I think you shouldn't outright eradicate it. Maybe provide a reformed alternative version, maybe tweak it, I don't know- but destroying it fully, and the original is wasteful of your efforts and may be barring future fans from ever experiencing your mod....

All I ask is you to think that over before you go further with whatever action. Your mod may be a bit odd and not in the tastes of conventional strategy gamer, but it has lots of great mechanics and work put in it, and even if people don't take onto it like wildfire en masse in its pure form, perhaps they can derive some use out of it- even of the intensive made artwork you've laboured over...

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on March 27, 2014, 04:30:02 AM

Yeah BU, you have friends here. :) You built yourself a fun little community, enjoy it! Plus Jesus loves you too.

Rest assured nothing is happening immeditately. I could have just pulled the page from my site and nobody would have noticed, but I'm here talking about it before I do anything.

The primary motivation driving this is not so much the mod being unplayed and unpopular, I can accept failed projects as I have made plenty, it's more that I want to pull my fandom of naked cuties offline. I've got a lot of flak from furries and hentai groups from being a Christian and not being on their forums promoting things, and not having my work being dirtier. The internet is a fun place to hang out, but yeah, with porn around every single corner I just don't think it's an appropriate place for my characters.

I did consider replacing the characters I care about in LE with new ones (specifically, myself, Rakash and maybe one or two others) for a release, but then I realised that just nobody plays the thing, and so the time spent wouldn't be really worth it. But I wouldn't want the work to go to waste, hence the suggestion of releasing the non-unit and non-leaderhead content as resources here in the Downloads area. That's been my train of thought.

Thanks for the support though guys. It's definitely a pleasant community.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2014, 04:36:57 AM

Quote from: Kilkakon on March 27, 2014, 04:30:02 AM

Yeah BU, you have friends here. :) You built yourself a fun little community, enjoy it! Plus Jesus loves you too.

And I love him right back.

Consider this: AC2 is my TCM, and it hurts my feeling right back that one of the people I most rely on doesn't really want to play it.  Ironic, huh?

Quote from: Kilkakon on March 27, 2014, 04:30:02 AM

I did consider replacing the characters I care about in LE with new ones (specifically, myself, Rakash and maybe one or two others) for a release, but then I realised that just nobody plays the thing, and so the time spent wouldn't be really worth it.

Do you really not see the flaw in the logic here?

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 30, 2014, 04:33:27 AM

Quote from: Kilkakon on March 27, 2014, 01:02:50 AM

And right. I thought those had fallen into irrelevance due to the wiki, but right.

The Official Pages have a lot of obsolete information anyway, but that isn't the point  - the point is that they're the Official Firaxis pages, and we want to complete the rescue/recreation.  Wiki entries aren't going to, hopefully, get us a link at the bottom of the Wikipedia SMACX article.  That's pretty much the most visible service we could possibly do all those SMACers out in the cold who've never found the online community...  It needs doing a year-and-a-half ago.

Please?

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on May 03, 2014, 01:06:47 PM

What do you guys think? Ready for submitting to downloads area?

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 03, 2014, 02:52:48 PM

;b;

Hey, did you know that the LE GotM was something like the second scenario I ever playtested?  I posted the first, Eye of the Beholder last night, and was reminded.

Folks, if you're curious about Kil's work, go find Stranger in a Strange World in Command Nexus and give it a world.  It's fairly short, and it's a taste of his work - and it's good.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 03, 2014, 03:29:06 PM

Here's a link to the scenario at librarian difficulty: http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=29 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=29)

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: ete on May 03, 2014, 09:25:27 PM

Sad, but understandable. Sucks when a project you've really invested in does not go as far as you want it to. I encourage you keep at least the SFW versions up and public indefinitely, even if you pull the uncensored versions. That way people can pick it up and play if they come across it and you shouldn't have to deal with creepy stuff. I hope you at least enjoyed building the mod and learning about how to balance AC factions/the limits of modability, it is a very cool project. If you end up feeling like SMAXifying the factions some day I'd welcome it into the faction pack.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 03, 2014, 09:28:20 PM

Realm of Light, SMACified but poke'weenied version (it was a story plot point), is included with the scenario...

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: ete on May 03, 2014, 09:38:43 PM

That's one, but iirc most of the others were not available in a SMAX form?

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 03, 2014, 09:43:56 PM

Yes.  It's the middle of the night where Kil is, but he'll likely be on to talk about it in roughly four hours.  I've been nagging him for a long time to do a human faction version of LE, but he says that's too far from what inspired him creatively.  I bet he'd be very willing to at least do PG versions compatible with non-LE SMACX, though.  He's a great guy.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: ete on May 03, 2014, 10:36:11 PM

It's less of a request, I get that he's probably had more than enough of LE for now, just saying it'd be a cool thing to have if and when he feels in the mood for the project.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 03, 2014, 10:41:21 PM

Make it a request. ;nod

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: ete on May 03, 2014, 11:45:30 PM

He's made it pretty clear he's not keen to pour more effort into it, and I can respect that. I've been there with projects. Pushing it would be both not a nice thing to do and probably counterproductive to his motivation. Maybe he'll feel like coming back to it, and that'd be cool because more factions to add into the mix is always good, but I feel much better leaving it as a "this would be cool if you feel like it but no pressure" thing.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 04, 2014, 12:01:34 AM

It's an organizer thing, I guess - I want to be loved, and I think I mostly succeed at being good to people, but taking no for an answer very easily is not how to get things done.  But I certainly don't want juggling so many eggs to get in the way of decency.  Life's a difficult balance, I increasingly find as I accrete wisdom through experience.

So Kil - whaddaya think?  I believe you indicated some interest in unmodded-ready versions before...

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Ford_Prefect on May 04, 2014, 12:47:34 AM

Wait... he has a version that doesn't have genitals? 
Also... we have been talking about his mod here and his website... without links to either.  ::)   

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 04, 2014, 01:24:54 AM

He has a version cropped for decency.  Out of frame, they still have no pants.  Links in the other LE thread, if he hasn't removed everything from his website yet - he'd be thrilled if someone gave it a try.  PLEASE.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on May 04, 2014, 02:00:00 AM

From the very beginning there's been censored versions available from my site, yeah. Most characters got loin cloths or the pictures were zoomed in to normal SMAC style (head and shoulders).

I appreciate Ete's respect on not trying to push me into things. :)

Personally I am currently suffering from trying to squeeze too much into my life at the moment. Between recording, art, tabletop modelling and C&C I don't really have much spare time. Dad says I should stop half of what I am doing to help with my stress problems.

If the mood strikes me in the next coming months I would like to finish Tomorrow at the very least. Meora's got a classic faction there--winning combination really. Naked dragon, SMAX, actually fun to play.

Really, I am just trying to avoid people doing the wrong thing with my dudes. I did weigh up replacing them with new pokemon characters and re-releasing but it's a dead on arrival mod, so yeah. XD

First thing I did today, this post. I wonder how much sense it makes.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 05, 2014, 04:47:30 AM

Kil, we should catch up - you have my Skype, I don't have your new one and you know I'll listen.  I'm interested to learn what's up wit' you.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on May 07, 2014, 01:34:36 PM

I've submitted it to the downloads area now. :)

I do have one pokemon faction I'd like to make for normal SMAX. Shame is that the original guy who edited the leader pic I like really avoids me like the plague and he said I am not allowed to distribute the pic, haha.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on October 14, 2014, 04:55:18 AM

I wonder if any of my bases ended up being used, haha. They got 48 downloads at least.

Shame the Meora AAR got derailed, haha, would have been interesting to see a victory from THAT. :P

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: JarlWolf on October 15, 2014, 01:41:32 AM

They probably are. I still have files of your originals, at least some of them- including the beast/pokemon picture things as well;

I really like some of the bases though, and ideology wise some of them are very interesting as well.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on October 15, 2014, 02:00:10 AM

Heh thanks man :) While it didn't turn out like I had hoped it was fun to work on the thing.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 02:08:33 AM

Quote from: Kilkakon on October 14, 2014, 04:55:18 AM

Shame the Meora AAR got derailed, haha, would have been interesting to see a victory from THAT. :P

What would it take to rerail it?  Sure would like to see more of that sucker.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on October 15, 2014, 02:51:43 AM

The Meora one was one that Green started at the end of the AI comp stomp thing he was doing. :)

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 03:01:53 AM

What about the AAR you were doing?  I'd love to see more of that game...

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on October 15, 2014, 03:03:58 AM

Ah right. Well unsure. As you know I kinda want my persona to not be online much...

I could be persuaded to finish Tomorrow off though and post it.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 03:27:07 AM

Well, you know you're safe and respected, here.  Nobody's trolling you while I'm in charge.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on October 15, 2014, 03:40:53 AM

Yeah I know. I'm just being aware of my decisions ^_^ I haven't drawn myself or commissioned myself in pictures for ages, for example.

I should ask if I can use the leaderpic I used for The Defiant.

Primarily it's just a time thing. My short story I have been working on gets like a single paragraph every week or two haha.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 03:46:14 AM

Any chance of that going up in Planet Tales?

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on October 15, 2014, 03:54:33 AM

Well it is completely unrelated to SMAX in every way XD It's just a boy and his three charmanders going to the market.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 04:16:16 AM

We certainly prefer SMACX stuff, but we're not exlusionary...

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on October 15, 2014, 04:19:35 AM

I suppose you want me to update my art thread too... been a year or so haha so there's a few new pics.

I'll try to remember to finish Acolytes and Tomorrow whenever I get my break.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 04:23:00 AM

:D

You are wanted and cherished here.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on October 15, 2014, 04:26:38 AM

Haha well thanks. I'll think about what's post worthy. Probably my C&C progress and art.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 04:41:21 AM

...And your tech mini-pages making skillz are especially cherished...

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on October 15, 2014, 05:14:16 AM

I see what you did there :P

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 05:16:39 AM

:P

I'm relentless, I am.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on October 15, 2014, 05:26:38 AM

I'll do it whenever my holiday starts. I want it to be this week coming but looks like it might be the next...


For the record, who wants to have versions of these for SMAX? (other than BU)

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 02:07:32 PM

You mean your factions, yes?

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on October 15, 2014, 02:09:38 PM

Ja. I remember making a thread about it but I can't find it.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Geo on October 15, 2014, 07:14:58 PM

Quote from: BUncle on October 15, 2014, 03:27:07 AM

Nobody's

 ;morganercise

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 07:31:21 PM

?

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Geo on October 15, 2014, 07:44:01 PM

 :D

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 07:46:38 PM

 :'(

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Green1 on October 15, 2014, 08:07:11 PM

What the modders probably need to do is start doing reading on basic Civ 5 modding techniques such as custom leader design to start. I have a feeling BE will be set up very similar to Civ 5.

I would leave all of the mods/TCMs for the cult classics up and occasionally maintain them. But, to truly reach a wider audience, start migrating to a game with a wider audience. This does not mean abandoning. This means expanding your repertoire.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on October 16, 2014, 02:21:11 AM

Funnily enough I was given a copy of Civ 5 when I bought XCOM2012, still never played it.

I'm not really planning to revive the project major scale. Just was wondering if people wanted them remade for AARs or whatever.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Green1 on October 16, 2014, 05:46:43 AM

Quote from: Kilkakon on October 16, 2014, 02:21:11 AM

Funnily enough I was given a copy of Civ 5 when I bought XCOM2012, still never played it.

I'm not really planning to revive the project major scale. Just was wondering if people wanted them remade for AARs or whatever.

The vanilla civ 5 is not very good in my opinion. But, Brave New World made it pretty good.

If they wish to include Pokeman on any scale, we know where to look :D But, I think the market here likes low fantasy sci fi. They are not as Hienlieinesque in taste it seems as creatures like the Antimind have a place. But, I am not sure they would want Orks running around with plasma rifles riding dragons. Ditto for 'toons. It is their taste.

Do not feel bad, though. I always wanted to do a TCM of something that was anything goes. Where you would have bad assed Giants with lightsabres, vehicles, aircraft, and wizards launching fireballs. Better, a great creator engine where you could add anything you want. Kind of like a cross between Gamma World and Dungeons and Dragons and GURPS Future meets 4x. But even if I had the skills and time, I could hear the screams and heads shaking. Knowing me, I would probably add My Little Ponies just to make people mad.

At least you HAVE a TCM, which is more than most wannabe folks that scream for things can do. And, the mod was an epic troll AND playable! I love it when folks get panties in a wad.

But do not get stuck in the past. Always make NEW things. Make the next mod totally different from what is done before! daVinci did not sit around with the Mona Lisa for 5 years. No, he made many other works.

Title: Re: The Fate of Lost Eden
Post by: Kilkakon on October 16, 2014, 05:51:29 AM

Heh yeah well I basically make the same sort of stuff as this was, just for myself now really. It's just not accepted online.

Am looking forward to my C&C release as well of course. :)