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Title: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 27, 2013, 01:17:38 AM
To start off:

About Doctor Who - if the Beebe would hire a good writer, good video editor and good sound mixer, there's a mint to be made going through all the intact stories of the old show and editing them down to the length the story wanted to be, sans the pointless/boring running around that didn't advance the plot and served only to pad that sucker out to 4-6 episodes when 2 would have done. 

It's something I've noticed time and again, even when watching the good ones with the 4th Doctor and Romanna - over half is always boring filler.  (Mylochka and I watched Castrovalva last night, which was deadly bad for the first half it took to even get to the eponymous locality, then suddenly became not-terrible once TristanDoctor hit town.) I'm not advocating something like Star Trek Remastered with fixing the special effects to so-so results.  You'd still be stuck with the old scripts, old performances, much of the old sets, and all the costumes.  But good stories and bad alike could all benefit from tighter pacing and getting to the good parts a lot faster.

The BBC could make a mint selling DVDs of the old show to the same fans all over again, and have something much more likely to appeal to new fans and curious fans of the current version.  This is something even you or I could do crudely on the computer with something like Windows Movie Maker, provided only the will, the patience, and some good story-telling skills - and I wish some fans would, in hopes of the right people at the beebe seeing it on YouTube and getting inspired.

I'd really like to see a Good Parts version of Castrovalva, you see...


Valka, I'm enthusiastically Romanna II too.

Mary Tamm had a Mrs. Peale thing going that had promise if they'd gone for it, but it never got played up with the Doctor taking the Steed role.  She wore the living heck out of the fabulous costumes, and had that model's perfect beauty.  Good job, and nothing not to like.  ;b;

But Lala Ward - still very good-looking, and made a flawed real girl attractiveness really work for her.  Wore the costumes -maybe not as well, but still-  very well, and they came up with cuter outfits for her, too.  Perky and funny and oh, so very likeable.  Much more chemistry with Baker.  Looked like she was having a good time, and seemed more committed to the role.  I want to marry a young Lala Ward for a week with an option for more if it works out. ;b; ;b; ;b; ;b;


I love the revival so far.


Zoid, I expect you to speak up...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on August 28, 2013, 12:07:41 AM
4th Doctor this, 4th Doctor that.

(BTW, you know the 4th Doctor and Ramona 2 got married in real life? That is until Atheist legend Richard Dawkins got her because she was set up by Douglas Adams of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy fame.. Imagine the conversations there...lol.)

Let's talk about the REAL Doctor.... The 7th. manipulative, scheming and a kick butt companion.

Oh yeah.. that companion blows stuff up and hits Daleks with baseball bats... and survives!
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 12:12:03 AM
Hmmm.  He was the Doctor when you were about 20, I think, not the traditional 12.  Was he your first, perchance?

Everybody knows about the marriage...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on August 28, 2013, 12:17:43 AM
The first one was the 4th.

I lost interest around the time celery crochet man and boy wonder took over.

Then when rainbow vomit coat came to be, I totally lost it until the episodes or so.

Then awesome Doctor came with lezzie psycho chick with explosives. If it just had better effects. But, most of the stories were really deep. But, the Sylvester McCoy stories did not seem to prod like Tom Bakker stories.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 12:24:23 AM
Interesting. 

"lezzie"?  Dude.

Zoid loves gay rainbow doctor, so that ought to be good for a post.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on August 28, 2013, 12:34:58 AM
Interesting. 

"lezzie"?  Dude.

Yes.... Ace was going to have a lezzie tendencies from Survival on...

I mean... just look at her...


Oh, and it's documented...

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    [They] should have just had cheetah eyes and a very faint pigmentation round of cheetah spots, and big canine teeth. And in fact, I think the actors that were cast, from what I was told, were doing all this wonderful expressive facial work, and then these 'Puss In Boots' things were dropped on them – and so then you can't see what they're doing under there. Particularly Karra and Ace, there were whole amazing scenes between them and for me, that was supposed to be my lesbian subtext – and you can't see it!
    —Rona Munro, 2007 interview

Although it was later written in that Gritz took her virginity when she was 16.

There is also the later fiction where she slept with anything and anybody in addition to continuing to blow stuff up in comics and novels. But... the canon of those is questionable.

But, whats not to like about a lezzie chick carrying rocket launchers and grenades. Although Doctor Who just really takes advantage of her and plays some pretty mean head games.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 12:37:28 AM
I was questioning the propriety/sensitivity of the terminology is all...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on August 28, 2013, 12:53:59 AM
Yeah...that wouldn't fly some places. 

Anyway, I watched some of the 4th doctor, but haven't really watched much of anything else.  Tried an episode of the rehash, but didn't grab me.  Don't know what age I was when I caught it either, as the local PBS stations are a little weird.  Might have been the only thing on during one of my strange schedule stretches. 
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 12:56:26 AM
Which doctor in the revival?  Soccer thug, anorexic guy, or the young chin?  It makes a difference, maybe.

I'm not sure it flies here - personal opinion.  We're pretty wall to wall lefties.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: JarlWolf on August 28, 2013, 12:57:32 AM
To be honest I've never watched Doctor Who, any of them. I heard of it way back when but I just never got into it/bothered to try it.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 01:07:51 AM
Its - it was always a children's show, really.  The revival isn't, but it still helps if you found the Doctor young.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: JarlWolf on August 28, 2013, 01:11:18 AM
My knowledge of Dr.Who is next to none as well. I know barely anything about it. All I know is there was something about a time traveling phone booth, but that's it, and I have a feeling that is horribly inaccurate even.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on August 28, 2013, 02:13:28 AM
I want to see John Hurt (Alien chestburster surprise doctor) in the 50th. He is going to be an evil cross between soccer leather jacket hooligan doctor and one shot Edwardian dress movie doctor.

With the exception of some times with 11 or 7, we really have not had a dark doctor in a while.

My knowledge of Dr.Who is next to none as well. I know barely anything about it. All I know is there was something about a time traveling phone booth, but that's it, and I have a feeling that is horribly inaccurate even.

Some of the new ones are actually pretty good. The new series does not prod the way the old ones do.

This last series with anorexic young Bill Nye doctor were well written for the most part. I also enjoyed the season finale. The whole lead up over a season and a half to Clara's mystery was a good show.

My only deal is, this is the Doctors upcoming 12 regeneration. Somewhere between his 12th and 13th he becomes the Valeyard which will be awesome.

Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 02:17:05 AM
I'm not certain it would be awesome at all.




Which Romanna, BTW? All must choose.



When Adric was killed off?  A friend of mine threw an "Adric go to Hell" party for viewing the PBS showing of that episode.  Much beer was consumed, and there was strip poker.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: JarlWolf on August 28, 2013, 02:25:13 AM
  Much beer was consumed, and there was strip poker.

Did one thing lead to another and end up in some kinky SMAC/X talk?  ;lol
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on August 28, 2013, 02:27:01 AM
Well, you DO know the Valeyard is coming. After this next guy takes over... and regenerates.

I love that DW is all about continuity.

The truth about the Valeyard - Doctor Who - The Trial of a Timelord - BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2INBe_qZFo#)

(One of the few series from Rainbow puke coat Doctor and Shrill voice companion that is actually pretty cool)

Yeah, Adric was the Wesley Crusher of Doctor Who.

Both Ramonas were good. But the second was cuter.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 02:29:04 AM
[nods]

  Much beer was consumed, and there was strip poker.

Did one thing lead to another and end up in some kinky SMAC/X talk?  ;lol
This was in 1982/83...



I neither consumed nor played.  I am a prude.  But that's a true story - I wish Barbara had lost instead of Bruce...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on August 28, 2013, 02:46:53 AM
Which doctor in the revival?  Soccer thug, anorexic guy, or the young chin?  It makes a difference, maybe.

I'm not sure it flies here - personal opinion.  We're pretty wall to wall lefties.
Didn't realize there'd been more than one. 

Google says it was the 10th doctor. 
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 03:01:33 AM
Anorexic guy.  Rather a soap-operaish actor, but with charm.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on August 28, 2013, 03:30:34 AM
Messed up thing is we have to wait till November. I think the 50th Anniversary episode is going to be really good.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Zoid on August 28, 2013, 06:14:10 AM
Interesting. 

"lezzie"?  Dude.

Zoid loves gay rainbow doctor, so that ought to be good for a post.

Well, I don't LOVE him... I just don't hate him like everyone else seems to do... ;)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 06:17:23 AM
I'd swear you said he was your second favorite.  Are you going to force to  browse at the Pond again?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Zoid on August 28, 2013, 06:20:22 AM
He might have been, I say a lot of stuff sometimes...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 06:23:52 AM
Different regeneration?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Zoid on August 28, 2013, 06:41:51 AM
If you ask me now I would say Ecclestone...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 06:45:34 AM
Is your second favorite? 

I better go to bed; my brain is melting.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Zoid on August 28, 2013, 07:11:11 AM
:D
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on August 28, 2013, 05:25:31 PM
I've been a Dr. Who since the Tom Baker days. 

One thing I really appreciate about the series is the way that the makers of "Nu Who" did not throw out the baby with the bath water when re-starting the series. There did not seem to be any of the poisonous "All that was previously done in this series was dog crap. Screw the fans! Let our cgi genius scorch away all memory of the past!" that seems to pervade most recent "ret-cons."  "Nu Who" preserves and honors the best of the past, in my opinion, while still forging forward with their own vision of the series... which is really what we want from a new version of an old favorite, isn't it?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 01, 2013, 07:09:02 AM
I just noticed this thread...

BUncle, back in the '80s somebody told me I resemble Lalla Ward; in fact, he called me "Romana" that year (we were in college). This was the guy who got me into Doctor Who. We met in front of the snake cage in one of the main hallways (2 boa constrictors named Albert and Walter served as both pets of the biology department and a conversation piece for passersby), started to talk, and discovered that I was into Star Trek and he was into Doctor Who. The Tom Baker stories were running on PBS at the time, so I agreed to give the series a try.

Trust me, "Pirate Planet" is not a good first-time exposure to the Fourth Doctor! I nearly turned it off, but a promise is a promise... and "Stones of Blood" turned out to be terrific (and is still one of my favorite Who stories of all time!). So I got hooked.

Quote from: Green1
I lost interest around the time celery crochet man and boy wonder took over.
You mean cricket, and not crochet I trust...? As for the "boy wonder" - which one? The Fifth Doctor had two male companions (Adric and Turlough). Both were very smart, socially inept, and very annoying. Both found some sort of redemption in the end (Adric by trying to save Earth from the Cybermen and Turlough by helping to save his kinfolk and straightening out his troubles with his home planet).

Quote from: JarlWolf
My knowledge of Dr.Who is next to none as well. I know barely anything about it. All I know is there was something about a time traveling phone booth, but that's it, and I have a feeling that is horribly inaccurate even.
No, you're completely accurate. The TARDIS is shaped like a phone booth, and it travels in time. However, you can't actually use it to make a phone call.

Do I detect disdain for Christopher Eccleston? One of the SEXIEST Doctors? (none of them are sexier than Tom Baker, of course!)

Sheesh, you should read some of the fanfic - yikes!
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 01, 2013, 07:36:09 AM
I'm pretty sure he shouldn't. ;)  Eccleston does rock the universe pretty hard, mind, but I saw him humping in one of the Elizabeth movies and wish I hadn't.  He was also butt-nekkid that time he played John Lennon...

"Stones of Blood" -that is hilarious, because it makes Mylochka vomit blood.

He was definitely taking about Adric, and I didn't make up that party.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on September 01, 2013, 07:40:47 AM
Skip the fourth. Go with the seventh. You will be fine. Tom Bakker is over rated.

I got through re-watching The Happiness Patrol. Amazing how I have read the main villain of that story was supposed to be an analogue to Margarete Thatcher! It also has some of the best speeches by McCoy.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 01, 2013, 07:44:02 AM
Wow Green, you are putting on one of your most awesome displays of charm evah in this thread. :P
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on September 01, 2013, 07:45:45 AM
Wow Green, you are putting on one of your most awesome displays of charm evah in this thread. :P

Can not help it. The seventh doctor makes me an irrational fan boy. More so than Trek or Wars.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 01, 2013, 07:46:40 AM
Bittervet :D
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on September 01, 2013, 07:52:42 AM
Bittervet :D

Yes! I am STILL bitter.

Mad because they only gave awesome doctor limited time in that backdoor pilot in the 90s to lame 8th doctor. It would have been re-upped if they did not kill off awesome doctor.

Well, at least they have John Hurt coming up in the 50th. A cross between mcCoy ( not McGann) and Eccestone would be awesome.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 01, 2013, 08:03:18 AM
I'm pretty sure he shouldn't. ;)  Eccleston does rock the universe pretty hard, mind, but I saw him humping in one of the Elizabeth movies and wish I hadn't.  He was also butt-nekkid that time he played John Lennon...
I thought he was delightfully evil in Elizabeth (from a purely eye-candy pov; there is no way that Norfolk could ever not be evil, no matter who plays him).


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"Stones of Blood" -that is hilarious, because it makes Mylochka vomit blood.
Amelia Rumford is one of my favorite guest characters!

Gonna go over to the Lolpics thread and post some of my Whovian ones...  :D
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on September 01, 2013, 08:12:20 PM
I watched "Reign of Terror" this week.  It's a first Doctor adventure during... wait for it.. the Reign of Terror after the French Revolution.  It's one of the ones where they filled in missing episodes with animated versions.  It's not a perfect solution.. but I've enjoyed the two semi-animated series I've seen.  I really love Patrick Troughton's Doctor and would love to see more of those get the animation fix.

After watching some of the very old Dr. Who episodes this summer, I wish they'd go back to doing some purely "Let's go visit a historical event and not run into space monsters" episodes occasionally.  Sometimes the series tries so hard to out-do itself on the CGI-ed monsters that it gets a little repetitive...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2013, 06:50:35 PM
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A Cosmic 'Tardis': What the Universe Has In Common with 'Doctor Who'
SPACE.com
by Elizabeth Howell, SPACE.com Contributor  19 hours ago


(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/.Nw6OTBT9rJvnlf7QKCxGQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTMyMztweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01NzU-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/News/SPACE.com/A_Cosmic_%27Tardis%27_What_the-83c511666aa3177eeb415f1445f81f4f)
A TARDIS from the TV show "Doctor Who"


     
Look out, dark energy: A TARDIS may be the real reason the universe is accelerating.

Regions in space-time that are bigger on the inside than the outside — just like the sci-fi character Doctor Who's TARDIS (Time and Relative Dimension in Space) time machine — could help explain the universe's quickening expansion.

These theoretical bubbles are named "Tardis regions." They're not a perfect explanation of how the expansion occurs, but they are a first step in making a model that is closer to reality, its proponents said. [Gallery: Dark Matter Throughout the Universe]

"The idea was to get this proof of principle, that this is possible that you can do it," Syksy Rasanen, a lecturer in theoretical physics at the University of Helsinki, told SPACE.com. "We're not claiming the inside of the hole is realistic, but it's the first model where we have an exact solution where structures that are distributed randomly in space have a significant effect on the expansion rate."



Tapping the accelerator

The universe is not only expanding, but its growth is accelerating. That startling realization occurred in 1998 after two research groups measured cosmic distances using Type Ia supernovas, which all have similar absolute brightnesses. A Type Ia appears fainter the farther away it is from Earth.

Instead of gravity slowing things down as expected, the universe was growing at a faster rate. A popular explanation offered today is a mysterious force called dark energy, which is believed to make up nearly three-quarters of the universe. No one knows what substances are in dark energy, but the leading theory proposes it is a property of space itself.

Dark energy is not the only explanation out there, however. Perhaps gravity does not behave as scientists expect it to. At great distances, maybe gravity speeds up expansion instead of slowing it down, or perhaps the acceleration is due to how certain types of structures form.

Rasanen's team is looking at that third possibility. Their model assumed that small perturbations in the structure of the universe at the age of 10 million years (an arbitrary starting age for the model, he said) could alter the universe's growth in a few billion years. The aim was to better understand how the universe evolved if, as the model assumed, the structures have a large effect.

"In this model, at early times, the holes expand [at the same rate] as the background, but as the universe becomes older and older, the hole expansion becomes more and more," Rasanen said. "The expansion rate is bigger than what you expect."



Cosmological Swiss cheese

Rasanen's team built on a cosmological model first proposed by Albert Einstein and Willem de Sitter. In simple terms, it portrays the universe as mostly homogeneous, but peppered with regions that are different than the background — almost like Swiss cheese.

Most variations of the model have the regions and the background grow at the same rate, but Rasanen's team put in variables to make those inhomogeneities grow independently. (One limitation of the model is the regions do not interact with each other or the background, something the researchers plan to address in the future.)

"With the holes in the Swiss cheese, we have built them so they are specially curved such that they get the expansion rate that we want," Rasanen said. "Though the Tardis regions we used are not realistic, the property that regions can have larger volume than expected based on their surface area is a general feature of gravity."

"This is an expression of the fact that according to general relativity, the geometry of space is not Euclidean," he added, referring to the type of geometry taught in a typical high school class. "Different regions of space are curved differently: Some have smaller volume than in the Euclidean case, others are larger. In the case of our model, we only have regions that are larger. When you take a realistic model, it is not clear whether the regions that are smaller balance out the regions that are larger."

One demonstration of space-time curvature occurs with gravitational lensing, a phenomenon that happens when a huge mass (such as a group of galaxies) bends the light of stars or galaxies behind the mass from Earth's vantage point.

The research has been submitted to the Journal of Cosmology and Astroparticle Physics and was detailed online on the preprint website Arxiv.
http://news.yahoo.com/cosmic-tardis-universe-common-doctor-223921484.html (http://news.yahoo.com/cosmic-tardis-universe-common-doctor-223921484.html)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 21, 2013, 06:23:04 PM
Doctor Who turns 50: Watch the BBC's commemoration
This minute-long clip features appearances by all 11 actors who have played the legendary sci-fi character
By Scott Meslow | 10:05am ET


'Doctor Who: 50 Years' Trailer - The Day of the Doctor - Doctor Who 50th Anniversary - BBC One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loGm3vT8EAQ#)



Doctor Who fans have been waiting for months to see Doctor Who star Matt Smith make his penultimate appearance as the character in next month's "The Day of the Doctor." But while the upcoming episode will feature no less than three confirmed actors playing Doctor Who in his various incarnations, fans can get a glimpse of all 11 actors who have played the Doctor in this minute-long teaser designed to promote the show's highly anticipated 50th anniversary episode.

As the clip indicates, the episode is designed to pay tribute to the character's extended history. "The Day of the Doctor" will feature current Doctor Who stars Matt Smith and Jenna-Louise Coleman and their predecessors, David Tennant and Billie Piper. John Hurt will also appear as another "forgotten" Doctor — a role that was briefly teased in "The Name of the Doctor" earlier this year. Persistent rumors suggest that one or more of the show's older Doctors might also make an appearance.

While "The Day of the Doctor" is the main attraction, it's not the only thing the network has in store for Doctor Who fans. The BBC has announced a wide range of programs designed to commemorate the Timelord on his 50th birthday, from a drama about the creation of the series (An Adventure in Space and Time) to a screening of a restored version of An Unearthly Child, the first-ever episode of the series. Diehard fans can even buy tickets to see "The Day of the Doctor" live in movie theaters for a special 3D screening on November 23.


http://theweek.com/article/index/251415/doctor-who-turns-50-watch-the-bbcs-commemoration (http://theweek.com/article/index/251415/doctor-who-turns-50-watch-the-bbcs-commemoration)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 14, 2013, 05:30:41 PM
The Night of the Doctor: A Mini Episode - Doctor Who: The Day of the Doctor Prequel - BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo#ws)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 25, 2013, 06:03:03 PM
You must watch this very funny vid...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01m3kfy (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01m3kfy)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on November 25, 2013, 06:39:50 PM
Quel domage!   ;lol
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on November 25, 2013, 07:57:48 PM
The Five(ish) Doctors is wonderful! I loved the part where the "Daleks" are asked if they understand how important this whole thing is, and the "Dalek" nods its eyepiece!
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Rusty Edge on November 26, 2013, 04:41:37 AM
I started watching Dr III, saw all of IV, some of V. 
While it 's true that I was losing interest, because V just didn't seem that serious about saving the world...
There were multi-year periods in my life when I thought I had better things to do than watch television intentionally. That was probably one of them.

I never got back into it afterwards, although I saw episodes now and then.

I much preferred IV and his sidekicks.


I am glad to see a science fiction series about time travel last so long.

Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 26, 2013, 05:26:35 AM
I can't get past Rory being a 2,000 year-old Auton...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on November 26, 2013, 08:53:45 PM
Not only that, but he somehow fathered a child... people have tried to explain to me how all that was retconned away because the TARDIS exploded and reset Amy and Rory's lives (her parents survive and he becomes alive and human again). That whole season with those two is just an unwatchable mess, as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 26, 2013, 10:04:59 PM
It simply does not stand to reason that, alt. timeline or what, he got back his human body but kept the memory.

I don't understand how he became an Auton in the first place, either.  Doesn't stand too much thinking about, any of it.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 06, 2013, 08:46:46 PM
This is amusing.  A fan got his wife to watch Who from the beginning and wrote up her reactions.  Have a look.

http://wifeinspace.com/2011/01/introduction/ (http://wifeinspace.com/2011/01/introduction/)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 08, 2013, 03:24:03 AM
This is amusing.  A fan got his wife to watch Who from the beginning and wrote up her reactions.  Have a look.

http://wifeinspace.com/2011/01/introduction/ (http://wifeinspace.com/2011/01/introduction/)
...For what it's worth, THIS is what I've been doing for two days, and they're only up to Carnival of Monsters.  It's that engaging.

Mylochka is still in the Hartnell years, 'cause she's on Daily Motion watching some stories for the first time to better enjoy the Wife's viewing.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 21, 2013, 11:22:00 PM
Strax Field Reports (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aqV6dL2DIc#ws)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 26, 2013, 04:50:18 PM
Strax Field Report: A Sontaran's View of Christmas - Doctor Who: The Time of the Doctor - BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ro5TIVozHo#ws)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on December 27, 2013, 07:26:25 AM
Well, that was an incomprehensible mess.  :-\
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 27, 2013, 07:51:25 PM
You're talking about the Christmas special?  Did you expect it to make sense after the last few years?

-Haven't seen it yet, mind...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 27, 2013, 08:36:01 PM
The search engine at Daily Motion isn't very good.  This The Time of the Doctor 1 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x18w8uw) turned up on page two of the results.

Viewing in progress, Good Lord willing and the internet connection keeps working.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 27, 2013, 10:31:00 PM
The Time of the Doctor 2 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x18waq5)

Wow.  It is difficult to BELIEVE something could make so little sense.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on December 28, 2013, 04:25:37 AM
It's like you have to have seen half of Tennant and every damn one of Smith's stories 5 times over and taken a university course in them to begin to make sense of this nonsense.

I've seen The Day of the Doctor a couple more times and that one gets easier to understand. I've decided to refer to John Hurt as Doctor 8.5, since I refuse to join in the We Have To Renumber The Doctors nonsense.

What especially bugs me about this Christmas show is that Clara has been running around in the previous Doctors' lives all these years. Excuse me, but she was NOT literally hanging around with Adric in the Master's trap in Castrovalva! What a slap in the face to the previous Doctors and their Companions to say that no, they didn't save themselves, it was Clara who did it.  ::)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 29, 2013, 04:12:19 AM
I think, in the end, that isn't the real problem, though.  -But surely the cause of the real problem.  It's pretty clear that the script began as a list of bits that just had to be in there, and then a plot fleshed out to connect those bits.  And the result was sloppy mess.  The basic story structure needed to make all the elements work just wasn't there.  These people have shown that they can do better, but this time I was bored and annoyed 20 minutes in.  And there's just no excuse for all the dialogue I couldn't make out no matter how many times I played it over.

A sloppy mess.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on December 29, 2013, 11:24:12 AM
Funny that. Both of you seem to hate the way the Doctor series went, and still you watch. Just sayin'. :P
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on December 29, 2013, 11:35:33 AM
I can't speak for BUncle, but for myself, I keep hoping it gets better. That hope was dashed throughout Matt Smith's tenure.

You need to realize that I'm a dedicated Classic Who fan. My favorite Doctor is Tom Baker, followed by Peter Davison. I loved Paul McGann as the Eighth Doctor, even though the movie plot was utter nonsense. It's a shame he never got any regular TV episodes. He was fantastic in that all-too-short webisode.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 29, 2013, 05:13:25 PM
Geo, you're making entirely too much out of some grousing about a particular episode that sucked.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 29, 2013, 11:02:07 PM
-Anyway, there's nothing actually wrong with watching something for the joy of rubbishing it as you go; it harms no one and picks no pockets.  It's how Mylochka and I were able to derive enjoyment from all those bad episodes of Xena.


And now, a bit of Craig Ferguson madness:
Craig Ferguson - The lost "Dr. Who" cold open. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9P4SxtphJ4#)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 29, 2013, 11:13:10 PM
ALSO-

See if you can spot the huge continuity error starting at 1:03:
The day the Doctor dies! - Doctor Who - The Impossible Astronaut - Series 6 - BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Z-8FKN_lw#ws)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on December 30, 2013, 07:42:51 AM
That Craig Ferguson video was hilarious! I never heard of anyone actually putting words to that music before.  ;lol
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on December 31, 2013, 04:18:03 AM
I thought this http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/12/the-captain-kirk-problem-how-em-doctor-who-em-betrayed-matt-smith/282690/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/12/the-captain-kirk-problem-how-em-doctor-who-em-betrayed-matt-smith/282690/) was a good summing up of the badness that was...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 01, 2014, 09:08:22 PM
Doctor Puppet - A Timelord Christmas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srV7gasgzF8#ws)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 18, 2014, 12:43:08 AM
I only saw this for the first time late last fall.  Many people have to watch it over and over, in amazement that something could be so bad.  -And so 80s. 

Enjoy the terrible, terrible 80sness.

K-9 and Company, Opening Titles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu7OiJpnlUs#)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on April 18, 2014, 12:48:53 AM
That was back in the days before the BBC realized that adults watch Doctor Who.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 18, 2014, 12:57:10 AM
That was before they realized that it was wrong of them to make people die of laughter, from the looks of it.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on April 18, 2014, 01:08:13 AM
The show itself wasn't extremely horrible. Kinda stupid, sure - especially the kid playing Sarah's nephew. And K-9 singing Christmas carols... well, he put more emotion into it than most canned music nowadays.

This one didn't last long, though.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 18, 2014, 01:11:45 AM
I'm just gobsmacked at the sheer badness of the title sequence.  It's SO awful that I've decided I love it.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on April 18, 2014, 03:15:03 AM
wait...that's a K9 spinoff show? 

I'll still put K9 up against muffit any day
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on April 18, 2014, 03:17:13 AM
Oh,

so in one of my bouts of insomnia the last week or so, I got the pleasure of seeing a who special with 3 doctors and some sorta conundrum about destroying some world or some nonsense. 

Anywho, they instead FROZE the whole place in time, right before it was wiped out.  Somehow, this solved their conundrum and made them all feel happy joyful with themselves while I was sitting there...how is that any better? 
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 18, 2014, 03:30:33 AM
Omega and the universe of antimatter?


K9 is, indeed, teh awesome.  E-Space, on the other hand, is of the devil - you go in with K9 and Rommanna; you leave with Adric.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on April 18, 2014, 03:37:03 AM
Omega and the universe of antimatter?


Google tells me it was the 50th anniversary special 'day of the doctor'. 

Didn't help the only one I cared for was the old dude. 
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on April 18, 2014, 03:38:37 AM
Oh,

so in one of my bouts of insomnia the last week or so, I got the pleasure of seeing a who special with 3 doctors and some sorta conundrum about destroying some world or some nonsense. 

Anywho, they instead FROZE the whole place in time, right before it was wiped out.  Somehow, this solved their conundrum and made them all feel happy joyful with themselves while I was sitting there...how is that any better?
It's better because the Doctors got out alive!


Omega and the universe of antimatter?

K9 is, indeed, teh awesome.  E-Space, on the other hand, is of the devil - you go in with K9 and Rommanna; you leave with Adric.
It was a departure that made sense, both storywise and character-wise. Romana didn't want to go back to Gallifrey, so she took the first "out" she had, which was to travel with the Tharils. And K-9 was basically fried anyway, although he could survive behind the mirrors. It would have been too cruel and sad to let him die, or leave him behind on his own. The Tharils wouldn't have given a damn about him.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 18, 2014, 03:45:11 AM
It's better because Gallifrey got out alive (albeit frozen) - maybe.


Romana>Adric.
K9>Adric.
Romana + K9 - Adric = E-Space of the DEVIL.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on April 18, 2014, 06:17:30 AM
Say what you want about Adric, but if it hadn't been for him, the dinosaurs wouldn't have been wiped out on schedule (as in the freighter wouldn't have crashed into the Yucatan at the proper time) and neither of us would be here talking about it!  :P
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 18, 2014, 02:30:36 PM
I didn't ask for his help - but I'm grateful to the Cybermen twice over.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on April 18, 2014, 05:11:43 PM
My point is that if Adric hadn't been there, the freighter would have crashed in the wrong century. Humans - and mammals themselves - wouldn't have evolved past tiny little rodents.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 18, 2014, 05:14:35 PM
Still rootin' for the Cybermen.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 31, 2014, 03:35:48 PM
Doctor Who Parody by The Hillywood Show® (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WBqHdI5Bdw#ws)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on June 01, 2014, 03:23:11 AM
Next wave of nuWho (series 8) will be out in August.

I will say this next doctor looks pretty sharp with that jacket and doc martins. I hope the acting and writing remains sharp.

teaser:
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Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 01, 2014, 03:32:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/embed/QYN6ruU672Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYN6ruU672Y#ws)

I had had to do something clever to get your link to embed.

I have an open mind - Capaldi looks okay for the part, and there's a lot to be said for going more different than Tennant to Smith, which he definitely seems to be.  Also, Clara won me over pretty quick and thoroughly, and it would have gotten out if she was leaving very soon...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 01, 2014, 03:37:55 AM
Doctor Who Filming Series 8 - The Doctor and Clara - *SPOILERS* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Co9XRMBRj4#ws)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on June 01, 2014, 05:41:29 AM
I see she checked out his ears.  :D
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 01, 2014, 05:55:30 AM
I was checking out her legs.  Isn't she just adorable in that short skirt with the tights to keep it clean (and color-coordinate)?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 14, 2014, 08:39:53 PM
The official full length TV launch trailer - Doctor Who Series 8 2014 - BBC One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TivqZTq5u6Y#ws)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on July 14, 2014, 11:26:52 PM
It gets less and less Whovian as they keep going.  :-\ I mostly enjoyed the Tennant years but otherwise, for me real Doctor Who ended with Paul McGann.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2014, 02:41:07 AM
McGann?  Really?

Funny - I'd never really heard anything good about that movie until about the time I finally saw it for myself.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on July 15, 2014, 04:17:50 AM
I should clarify: The movie was crap. But McGann was magnificent. He absolutely nailed the Doctor's character in that movie, and again in the 50th anniversary webisode.

The world was robbed when he wasn't given a series of his own as the Eighth Doctor.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2014, 04:19:11 AM
I do not really disagree with any of that.
Title: Why Peter Capaldi has a bigger challenge than any Doctor Who in history
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 23, 2014, 09:20:47 PM
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Why Peter Capaldi has a bigger challenge than any Doctor Who in history
There are more than a few hurdles ahead for the 12th Doctor
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No pressure.  (Facebook.com/Doctor Who)



In just a month, 56-year-old Peter Capaldi will make his formal debut as the 12th actor to play one of Britain's most revered television heroes: Doctor Who.

On paper, Capaldi seems like an unusually safe choice to play the titular role in the long-running series. He's a well-respected actor, best known for playing the potty-mouthed political advisor Malcolm Tucker in the comedy The Thick of It. He is the only Doctor Who star so far to win an Oscar (in 1996, for writing and directing the best short film). He is also a recognizable face from — among many things — Local Hero, The Musketeers, World War Z (as a character listed as the "W.H.O. Doctor"), and Doctor Who, on which he played a different role in 2008. (Showrunner Steven Moffat promises that the Doctor's resemblance to this guy will be explained on the show.)

Doctor Who invites such feverish speculation because its very nature is unpredictable. Apart from certain traits (eccentricity, genius, heroism), the Doctor completely changes his personality each time he "regenerates" into a different actor. Naturally, the rumors have started. Is the new Doctor actually evil? (Probably not.) Is he the Doctor's nemesis, the Master, in disguise? (Again, probably not. The fans have vivid imaginations.) Will there be a crossover with Sherlock, Moffat's other Big Show?

But for all the speculation, one thing seems clear: Capaldi, for all his talent, has a tough job ahead of him. Of all the actors who have played the Doctor over the past 50 years, the only one with a comparably daunting task was Patrick Troughton, the second Doctor, who took over from the original, William Hartnell, in 1966. At the time, the idea of changing the hero into someone with no resemblance and a different personality seemed crazy — and while the concept is now central to Doctor Who's very premise, Capaldi's takeover may not be a smooth one:


1. The expectations are sky-high

Capaldi replaces Matt Smith, some 25 years his junior, who came on the show as a little-known young actor best known in Britain for the ensemble drama series Party Animals. The fans, while still mourning the departure of his predecessor David Tennant, accepted him with an open mind. Capaldi has such a great reputation, however, that everyone already presumes greatness. Anything less will disappoint.


2. His sex appeal is questionable

When Doctor Who began in 1963, it was a kids' series — and though it's commonly described as having lasted 50 years, it was actually axed in 1989. When it was revived in 2005 as a prime-time series, the Doctor had a new trait: sex appeal. The new Doctor was played by the surly (but sexy) Christopher Eccleston, who would be replaced by the handsome Tennant, followed by the adorably goofy Smith. All the while, the series' U.S. popularity has grown — Smith was the first Doctor to make the covers of both TV Guide and Entertainment Weekly — making him a tough act for Capaldi, who's decades older, to follow.

Smith proved that the Doctor is now a sex symbol, and the show's new, younger fans expect that to continue. Smith's Doctor had plenty of sexual tension with his travelling companions, and Capaldi has inherited Clara Oswald, played by 28-year-old Jenna Coleman. As he is twice her age, he might keep it to himself this time.


3. Changes are always controversial

However you look at it, Doctor Who is a long-running series (even if it hasn't gone for 50 years non-stop). The classic series, which lasted 26 years, is by far the longest-running science fiction show in television history. But even the revival has already gone on for nine years — longer than any Star Trek series. When a series lasts that long, it occasionally needs renewal. Moffat has already said that big changes are in store beyond the Doctor's new face. Whatever form these changes will take, it remains to be seen whether the fans and casual viewers will like them.


4. His fate is tied to Steven Moffat

And while we're on the subject: Moffat is controversial among passionate Doctor Who fans. He is perhaps the series' all-time most popular writer (readers of Doctor Who Magazine recently voted that he had written the two best stories of the past 50 years). But since becoming showrunner, he has won a lot of haters, unhappy with the direction the show has taken: deviations from the canon, unconvincing twists, a long record of troubling attitudes toward women. If they are angered by his coming changes, Capaldi might be caught in the crossfire.


5. The curse of Doctor Who looms large

Like Superman, the role of the Doctor seems cursed. The character is so revered that, once an actor takes it on, he will be forever known as "the Doctor." Eccleston only played the role for a single season, afraid of typecasting. Even Paul McGann, a popular and highly sought-after actor well before he did Doctor Who, has been branded for life as "the eighth Doctor" — despite his run being comprised of a series of audio plays and one telemovie!

Here, Capaldi has an advantage: he has already been typecast as The Thick of It's Malcolm Tucker. (Indeed, some fans have joked that he will be "the sweary Doctor.") Doctor Who, in which nobody ever swears, is actually a chance to shake off the shackles of his other iconic role. But even if he can shake off Malcolm Tucker, he might well be typecast all over again.

There are hopeful signs in modern actors who have found new work after Doctor Who. Not every Doctor Who star is so typecast with the role that they are forced into a life of Comic-Con appearances and fan book signings; Tennant's career has been going well since Doctor Who, and Smith is in demand since leaving the role. Like them, Capaldi might ride Doctor Who from fame to superstardom — but he has more than a few hurdles to face first.
http://theweek.com/article/index/265153/why-peter-capaldi-has-a-bigger-challenge-than-any-doctor-who-in-history (http://theweek.com/article/index/265153/why-peter-capaldi-has-a-bigger-challenge-than-any-doctor-who-in-history)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on July 23, 2014, 10:34:18 PM
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When it was revived in 2005 as a prime-time series, the Doctor had a new trait: sex appeal

Uh-uh.

Ask any female Tom Baker fan (and many of the male fans, as well) - Tom Baker was, and still is, adored by many.

And how many Doctors were married to their Companions in RL? (Tom Baker and Lalla Ward were married for a short time)
 
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 23, 2014, 10:45:35 PM
Eh, none of them ever did it for me...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: cykodennis on July 23, 2014, 11:26:14 PM
I don't think that i will be too hard for Capaldi.
The great disappointment has (IMO) already happen with the eleventh doctor.
I don't want to say that Matt Smith has done a bad job, surely not, but i think David Tennant was simply unreachable.

Capaldis lucky situation is, that he'll follow up Smith, not Tennant.
Title: Everything you wanted to know about Doctor Who, but were too embarrassed to ask
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 24, 2014, 05:16:53 PM
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Everything you ever wanted to know about Doctor Who, but were too embarrassed to ask
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Updated by Todd VanDerWerff on August 22, 2014, 1:30 p.m. ET @tvoti 


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See, now don't you want to know what this is? There's fire everywhere!  BBC America



A new season of Doctor Who — the eighth since the series' revival in 2005 — begins Saturday night on BBC America at 8:15 p.m. Eastern. The British sci-fi institution — which ran from 1963 to 1989 in in its initial incarnation — commands a legion of fans all over the world, who await Saturday's new episode with feverish anticipation.

There's good reason for this: this premiere features not just the debut of a new season but the debut of a new Doctor, played by Peter Capaldi, one of the best actors of his generation and a decidedly odd choice for the role. The Doctor has been played by men of Capaldi's age — 56 — before; he's never been played by a man whose best-known role was as foul-mouthed as Capaldi's role on British political sitcom The Thick of It.

You may be vaguely aware of Doctor Who, but you also might feel intimidated by just how much history there is to the show and feel like you'd have to watch 33 seasons of television to get caught up. To which we would say a.) don't and b.) you couldn't even if you wanted to.

To that end, consider this quick guide to the world of Who.


Who is Doctor Who?

He's the Doctor, that's who!


You're the worst

Right, but that's the joke. Get it? The character is known only as "the Doctor," and thus, the title of the show is a question: Doctor Who?! But nobody really has asked that question since, like, season one of the show, so you'd be forgiven for thinking this an elaborate, medical-themed riff on the "Who's on First" routine.


So who's the Doctor, then?

He's a time-traveling alien from the planet Gallifrey. He makes his way through all of space and time in a spaceship/time machine shaped like a British police box (think of a blue phone booth). This vehicle is called the TARDIS, which is short for Time and Relative Dimension in Space. It should be able to assume any form but somehow broke and got stuck on the police box. The TARDIS is larger on the inside than it appears to be on the outside, and it's the greatest vehicle known to man (or alien).

The Doctor and the TARDIS are the two constants of the program, even if the former has been played officially by 12 different actors. (He's also been played by other actors in other instances, but let's not wander too far into the weeds here.)

 
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The first 11 Doctors (BBC)


Hold up now, really?

When original Doctor William Hartnell was ailing toward the end of his run on the show, the series' producers hit upon something ingenious: since the Doctor was an alien, he could appear to "die," then stand right up as another actor. This was known as the Doctor's "regeneration." Hartnell was replaced by Patrick Troughton, and a terrific way to periodically refresh the program was discovered. (For more on Hartnell and the early days of Doctor Who, check out last year's excellent TV movie An Adventure in Space and Time.) Matt Smith regenerated into Peter Capaldi at the end of December's Christmas special.

 
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Peter Capaldi is the new Doctor. (BBC America)


What's the show like?

Generally, the Doctor and a human companion (at present, Jenna Coleman's Clara) fly around the universe, having sci-fi adventures. Different writers on the show like different things, some enjoying epic science fiction, with others liking to explore the show's roots as a children's educational program. (The Doctor was a time traveler so he could show kids earlier eras.) Current showrunner Moffat loves complicated puzzles, and his seasons have been filled with intricate structures that reveal themselves at the last possible moment. Then the Doctor points his sonic screwdriver at something.

Moffat loves the idea of the Doctor as the smartest, cleverest being who ever has lived, and his seasons of the show reflect that idea. The puzzles can be fun, but his seasons can occasionally feel like he's pushing the characters around on a giant board to achieve his various ends. Moffat's predecessor, Russell T. Davies, was fond of big, emotional gestures, and that meant he would conclude episodes or seasons with moments when, say, everybody resurrected the Doctor just by believing in him. Every writer makes his or her mark on the show and the character, which only adds to the series' popularity. The endless malleability is part of the appeal.


This show sounds kind of hokey

It's definitely the sort of show that can be hard to explain without making it sound silly. Doctor Who started as a series for kids, and it has kept at least one toe in that world ever since. What keeps the series from going too far over the top is that it always commits to what it's trying to do. It might be doing something unbelievably corny, but everybody involved really cares about the situations and characters on screen. It helps that the Doctor is such an institution that every actor who plays the role brings prior associations with the character to their portrayal.

But the show also isn't hokey, ultimately, because it carries with it the ultimate blank canvas. A Doctor Who story can, essentially, be about anything. The potential for the show's setting is limitless, which is what makes it so enduring.


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Matt Smith's Eleventh Doctor (center) and his companions face down the Daleks in an earlier episode. (BBC America)


What about the little salt shaker guys who say "EXTERMINATE!"?

You're talking about Daleks, a species of merciless killing machines and the Doctor's greatest foe, and if there's one reason to anticipate the new season, it's to see Peter Capaldi face off with Daleks.


Do people have allegiances to particular Doctors?

Hello and welcome to the Internet. Of course they do.

Probably the most beloved Doctor — and certainly the longest running — is Tom Baker, who played the Fourth Doctor and wore a fancy scarf. But nearly every Doctor has his adherents. Since the series was revived in 2005, all three actors who have regularly played the Doctor — Christopher Eccleston, David Tennant, and Matt Smith — have their fans. Since you're new to the fandom, we'll warn you to watch out for Tennant versus Smith fights. They can get nasty.


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Matt Smith (left) and David Tennant teamed up for the 50th anniversary special. (BBC America)


Has anybody other than a white guy played the Doctor?

No, and every new Doctor that's revealed to be a white dude prompts greater and greater irritation with this fact. That reached a fever pitch before Capaldi's tenure was announced last fall, and it didn't really go away, even when a much-loved actor like Capaldi was named to the role. Showrunner Steven Moffat didn't help matters, which speaks to some of his seasons' larger issues with roles for women.


So Moffat's seasons have come under fire?

Somewhat. Doctor Who always comes in for criticism, sometimes because of legitimate problems and sometimes because Doctor Who fans are intensely devoted to their program of choice. But the issues critics and fans have raised with Moffat's female characters are particularly troubling.

Moffat's a sterling storyteller, and his seasons have ingenious clockwork structures that the Doctor has to deduce. But this means that for the most part, his female characters (usually the companions, but also River Song, a love interest for the Doctor) are reduced from human beings who drive the story forward to plot devices the Doctor has to figure out.

Moffat writes superficially strong women, who have facility with a quip and are able to think their way out of sticky situations, but they also tend to be reduced to damsels in distress when it comes right down to it, and they react to hugely emotional situations — like, say, having their child taken from them — in largely unbelievable ways.

The question is whether this is specifically a problem with Moffat's writing for women or more a problem with his writing of characters who aren't the Doctor, and it would seem to skew more toward the latter. For one thing, Moffat has written interesting, believable female characters on other shows, like his much loved sitcom Coupling. For another, Moffat clearly just really loves the Doctor and seemingly would prefer to write only for him a lot of the time.


Okay, so... 33 seasons of television. How much of this do I actually have to watch?

Well, 97 episodes of the original series are lost to us, thanks to the BBC recording over them. We have audio tapes of them, which have been matched to production stills, but it's not the same, is it? So you can't watch all of Doctor Who. And you might not want to anyway.

This leaves you with three options.
Pick and choose episodes from the first 26 seasons, then dive into the new show: There are plenty of people out there who will offer you opinions on those first 26 seasons, and you can get a nice overview of every single Doctor before watching the new series. Several highlights from the earlier show are available on Netflix.
Just start with the new series: Yeah, there are seven seasons (and a weird mini-season of specials made with Tennant), but none of them is very long, and they go by quickly. Plus, the first episode tells you everything you need to know to enjoy the show. It's all on Netflix.
Start with the new episode on Saturday: Doctor Who has serialized elements, but rarely ones that are difficult to follow across seasons. Generally, a new Doctor taking over the role is a great time to hop on board, and Saturday's premiere is very welcoming to Who newbies.


Do you have some episodes I should watch before Saturday's premiere?

We're going to go with five from the new series. Episodes from the older series are generally best worked into after indulging in the more modern show.

"Father's Day": This terrific installment from Eccleston's first and only season reflects how well Davies handled the problems and sorrows of the companions.
"The Girl in the Fireplace": Moffat wrote this one-off during Davies's tenure, and it's a lovely, moving romance told in one hour, with time travel as the unifying element.
"Midnight": Another Davies episode features Tennant at his best and a great, involving conceit straight out of The Twilight Zone.
"Vincent and the Doctor": Smith's Eleventh Doctor runs into Vincent Van Gogh in a lovely tale of art, depression, and commerce.
"The Doctor's Wife": An ingenious episode written by acclaimed author Neil Gaiman reveals the true identity of the woman in the title.

 
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Jenna Coleman plays Clara. (BBC America)


Have you seen it?

The premiere? Yes.


How is it?

I'm not going to spoil you!


No, seriously!

It's pretty good! It occasionally seems petrified that the audience will stop watching because the Doctor is now older than any of his prior incarnations in the new series, and it works that idea into the subtext (and the text) as often as possible. To a degree, every first episode for every new Doctor is about defining who that new Doctor will be and acknowledging that, yes, things are different for everybody, and this premiere is certainly guilty of that. It also falls prey to Moffat's frequent mythologizing of the show's past.

But once the episode finally lets Capaldi get his feet under him and pairs him up with Coleman for some gloriously fun scenes, the episode hits the rails in vintage Who fashion. And fans will almost certainly enjoy the episode's final moments.


How's Capaldi? What kind of Doctor is he?

He is about what you'd expect a Peter Capaldi Doctor to be, and that's, predictably, awesome. But he's also game for anything, and that includes grand goofiness. It's easy to be hopeful about his tenure after watching the premiere.


Give me one more tidbit!

Okay, I'll give you two: there's a dinosaur, and the Doctor rides a horse in his pajamas.


Last one: has anyone ever tried to remake this in America?


Sort of. The Eighth Doctor was a one-off TV movie character whom Moffat resurrected for a short to celebrate the Doctor's 50th anniversary last year. Played by Paul McGann, he was British, sure, but he was meant to be the lead of a new series to air on Fox, rather than the BBC, and that TV movie (from 1996) was the pilot for that prospective series. Fortunately, nobody seemed too interested in a Doctor Who that would be an American co-production, so we didn't have to bear the indignity of this show being on Fox.


They would have canceled it anyway


Yeah, you're probably right.


The new season of Doctor Who debuts Saturday night on BBC America at 8:15 p.m. Eastern.
http://www.vox.com/2014/8/22/6055755/doctor-who-explained-who-is-doctor-who (http://www.vox.com/2014/8/22/6055755/doctor-who-explained-who-is-doctor-who)

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Must remember to check Daily Motion tomorrow...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on August 24, 2014, 07:02:55 PM
I signed up for a free one-month promotion of the Space Channel so I could watch this, and it was so interesting, I fell asleep. Literally.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 24, 2014, 09:16:47 PM
[WatchDW.com]_S08E01_Part_1 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x24ey9d)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 24, 2014, 11:15:05 PM
[WatchDW.com]_S08E01_Part_2 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x24eye2)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 25, 2014, 12:42:54 AM
...There was something very wrong with that episode.  There were a good many moments I loved, but between them, especially in the first 2/3, I kept pausing to play freecell...

Lame villain, and it took too long to get moving.  They shouldn't indulge themselves with double-length series premiers unless they have twice as much story to tell.  This could use a phantom edit.  Less Vastra, less Jenny, and more Strax - but not a lot more Strax...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 25, 2014, 12:43:47 AM
Doctor Who Extra - Deep Breath (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x24fxmt)
Title: Re: Everything you wanted to know about Doctor Who, but were too embarrassed to ask
Post by: t_ras on August 25, 2014, 07:22:09 AM
I love Doctor who! I liked Tennant the most (Though I only know the last three)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 25, 2014, 11:43:18 PM
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/ad3bd5f8cef4f1f39f6eae9b85c0d102/tumblr_morpkiIuv31riqo5so2_400.gif)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on August 26, 2014, 08:40:00 PM
Just watched the new episode (Thanks for the link, BU!).  Story wasn't all that stellar, but I had low expectations. The first story with a new doctor is never really about an interesting plot or villain.  The solution to whatever mystery that comes up is usually tied to the doctor finally remembering he knows stuff about things...

I found the dialogue to be very witty.  Particularly liked the Scottish jokes. And Clara... Well, I've always thought she was pretty cute, but when she turned up in that Victorian costume with her hair all in curls, she was so adorable that I passed out for a few seconds.  When I woke up, she and my boy Strax were having a conversation that was so precious I passed out again.  Don't know how impressed I am with the new doctor, but I now desperately want a Clara Barbie doll...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 26, 2014, 09:09:47 PM
Barbie's not perky enough, and her eyes are too small.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on August 28, 2014, 07:31:53 PM
Just saw a commercial with this older doctor and it was immediately more interesting than the recent boy band doctors, imo.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 31, 2014, 10:46:20 PM
Doctor Who Season 8 Episode 2 - Into the Dalek (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x24yr5z)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 01, 2014, 01:06:37 AM
Eh.

...But next week, Clara dresses up...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on September 01, 2014, 05:03:31 AM
Not bad for the obligatory Dalek episode of the season.

Is the Rahni taking up residence as this year's Big Bad?  If so -- Do the writers mean that as a promise or a threat?

Next week -- Maid Marion Clara!  :clap: :clap: Hooray!  Hooray!  I definitely need the "Clara in Costumes" Doll series...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 03, 2014, 09:14:26 PM
So, I've posting a LOT of Ebola stories lately, and wondering what they call the World Health Organization in the Doctor's world...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on September 04, 2014, 09:47:28 PM
..., and wondering what they call the World Health Organization in the Doctor's world...

"EXTERMINATE!!!"  ?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 04, 2014, 09:50:46 PM
Sid. ;nod
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 08, 2014, 12:24:06 AM
DW_S8E3_[WatchDW.com]_sd (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x25dlzm)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on September 08, 2014, 01:54:23 AM
A fun episode! Clara looked great in her costume (as anticipated). A refreshing change from those dreary horror episodes where all the guest stars die.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 08, 2014, 03:09:05 AM
It had a stronger start than the last two, but I couldn't really get into it, Clara dressed up notwithstanding.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 08, 2014, 07:09:02 AM
It was Doctor Who meets Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves/Men in Tights. All they needed was Patrick Stewart as King Richard.

Clara's dress was nice, though.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 12, 2014, 07:51:38 PM
RL Dr. WHO:

(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/w36eKORnxGcjGhrwKzRVkQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTI4NTtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz00NTA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_ZA/News/Reuters/2014-09-12T134517Z_1007970001_LYNXMPEA8B0R1_RTROPTP_2_OZATP-UK-HEALTH-EBOLA.JPG)
World Health Organization (WHO) Director-General Margaret Chan addresses the media on support to Ebola affected countries, at the WHO headquarters in Geneva September 12, 2014. REUTERS/Pierre Albouy

She's an MD.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 15, 2014, 12:29:22 AM
Tough to run down this week.

Doctor Who Season 8 Episode 4 - Listen (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x25wmmo)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 15, 2014, 01:50:26 AM
...That wasn't all that good...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 15, 2014, 02:09:30 AM
The first couple of minutes were kinda cool - this Doctor has a thing for blackboards.

But then along comes Clara, who is one half of the world's most inept dating couples and we find out that some day they will reproduce and have a great-grandson named Orson, who somehow ends up at the end of the Universe?

And the Doctor lived in a barn when he was a kid?

And Clara likes hiding under little boys' beds?

Give me a break.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 15, 2014, 02:10:55 AM
You may take a break.

Keep us posted on how it goes. ;)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on September 15, 2014, 02:41:44 AM
Yes, that was pretty outstandingly awkward date.

Who was that thing under the cover?

I would have liked it better if Clara was in a Victorian costume.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 15, 2014, 03:32:41 AM
Neither she nor Danny paid for their food and drinks, did they?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 15, 2014, 03:43:41 AM
She would probably look very cute in prison drag - he would look uncomfortable.  He does in everything.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 21, 2014, 07:13:28 PM
For the third week in a row, unable to find it in full-screen the next day.  Annoying.  I want a refund.

Doctor Who Season 8 Episode 5 Time Heist - 20 September 2014 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x26bppb)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 21, 2014, 09:57:16 PM
Eh.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 22, 2014, 02:59:20 AM
Once again, Clara would rather go on a bad date with Drippy Danny Pink than travel with the Doctor?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 22, 2014, 03:10:19 AM
I figured out who he reminds me of -- the new principal on the last season of Buffy.  Really strange/uncomfortable vibe he puts out.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on September 22, 2014, 03:49:24 AM
The super-fast talking makes the show a little exhausting for me to follow.  My brain is working too slow these days...  For example, entirely missed how the guest stars became not-dead...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 22, 2014, 04:20:49 AM
Something about teleporting to the getaway ship...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 28, 2014, 02:21:46 PM
The super-fast talking makes the show a little exhausting for me to follow.  My brain is working too slow these days...  For example, entirely missed how the guest stars became not-dead...
Whoever the next companion is, I hope they get somebody who can speak properly. I couldn't understand most of what Clara was saying. The rest of what she said wasn't anything I needed to worry about, because I fell asleep.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2014, 05:15:49 PM
I am so used to missing key bits of what's said in British productions -I think it's the sound quality and my poor hearing much more than the accents- that I hadn't bothered to complain.  It's pretty bad if I'm not the only one.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2014, 10:07:22 PM
 :danc: I do believe I found it in full screen this week! :danc:

S08E06 The Caretaker (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x26s56g)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 29, 2014, 12:43:47 AM
Did that play badly/jerky for everyone?

...If you'd described the plot of that episode to me, I wouldn't have been interested.  And it was the best episode of the season, for me - hard to say why, but it kept me interested far more than the previous episodes.  Danny said something that speaks, I think, to not just the Doctor's attitude towards him, but ours - we doubt he's good enough for Clara.  (-Also, he's boring.)

A teacher wouldn't be able to get away with the constant four-inch long skirts, BTW, by about a foot.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 29, 2014, 01:14:56 AM
Doctor Who "The Caretaker" Review: Who's Saving Who?
TV.com CBS
By Kaitlin Thomas  6 hours ago
(click to show/hide)
https://tv.yahoo.com/news/doctor-did-care-caretaker-140900091.html (https://tv.yahoo.com/news/doctor-did-care-caretaker-140900091.html)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 29, 2014, 01:46:58 AM
I am so used to missing key bits of what's said in British productions -I think it's the sound quality and my poor hearing much more than the accents- that I hadn't bothered to complain.  It's pretty bad if I'm not the only one.
London alone has a bazillion accents that do weird things with vowels, making some letters silent and pronouncing others, and then there are the glottals and more complex technical aspects of speech. If Clara (the actress) would just slow down, she'd be easier to understand, but apparently they're making a big deal of the area she's from. So that means the incomprehensible speech comes with it.

Clara has beat out Ace as my least-favorite companion. I wouldn't have believed that possible.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 29, 2014, 01:51:45 AM
She's not the only one I have trouble understanding, though; everybody talks fast during key dialogue this season.  It's the urgent moments, I guess.  I blame the director.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 29, 2014, 11:14:17 AM
Did that play badly/jerky for everyone?

...If you'd described the plot of that episode to me, I wouldn't have been interested.  And it was the best episode of the season, for me - hard to say why, but it kept me interested far more than the previous episodes.  Danny said something that speaks, I think, to not just the Doctor's attitude towards him, but ours - we doubt he's good enough for Clara.  (-Also, he's boring.)

A teacher wouldn't be able to get away with the constant four-inch long skirts, BTW, by about a foot.
It played okay.

She wasn't wearing a skirt (the black outfit). It was a fancy pair of shorts. But you're right about the length. Her clothes are totally inappropriate for a teacher.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on September 29, 2014, 08:40:51 PM
This episode did have a lot of good character moments, but the plot (like all the storylines we've seen so far this season) was very unambitious.  Are we ever going to see an interesting villain this time?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 06, 2014, 12:58:11 AM
S08E07 Kill the moon (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x279kzb)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 06, 2014, 02:01:03 AM
Well.

That was full of flaws, but it was still the first episode this season that I watched all the way through without taking a break.  Didn't make all the sense in the world, but a cracking yarn, nonetheless.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 06, 2014, 02:05:01 AM
Recap: 'Doctor Who' - Will we or won't we 'Kill the Moon'??
HitFix
By Donna Dickens  21 hours ago
(click to show/hide)
http://news.yahoo.com/recap-doctor-wont-kill-moon-021500207.html (http://news.yahoo.com/recap-doctor-wont-kill-moon-021500207.html)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on October 07, 2014, 03:29:31 PM
In my opinion, this episode played like a Jon Pertwee episode hastily rewritten to pass the Bechdel Test. 

There's been a lot of complaints that the current writing team doesn't write female characters very well.  I think they're ruining poor Clara in a misguided effort to address the criticism they've received.  She started out spunky but mysterious.  Now she's becoming harried and annoying.  In this one, she does make a decision all by herself that saves the Earth.  She makes the decision not based on logic and reason, but on emotion and impulse -- just like a good Victorian heroine would.  Then, rather than saying, "I got incredibly lucky and made an impulsive decision that saved the Earth! Go me!" she gets irrationally mad at the doctor for making her make a decision by herself -- just like a good Victorian heroine would.  She looks good in Victorian dress.  Maybe instead of ret-conning the moon to make it into a magical space dragon egg, they should just ret-con Clara into a new incarnation of Victoria from the Patrick Troughton era...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on October 11, 2014, 01:53:37 PM
"NASA's two and a half thousand miles... THAT way!" ;lol
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 11, 2014, 02:01:06 PM
Speaking of Clara and Victorian dress... amazing how she managed to arrange her hair in that fancy 'do, all by herself, in just a couple of minutes, isn't it?  ::)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 11, 2014, 04:16:26 PM
Impossible. ;nod ;nod
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on October 11, 2014, 04:18:43 PM
Mmm... must have looked too long in those impossible eyes to notice any mid-episode hair changes. :-[
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 12, 2014, 10:59:05 PM
And once more I fell asleep in the middle of an episode...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 13, 2014, 01:33:23 AM
Doctor Who 2005 Series 8 Episode 8 - Mummy on the Orient Express 720p HD (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27s2x3)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 13, 2014, 05:26:43 AM
Clara should dress up in something exotic and cute every episode, is all I'll say about that.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 13, 2014, 05:48:58 AM
Yep, it's like she stepped out of Season 4 of Downton Abbey.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 13, 2014, 03:48:04 PM
...She should be on Season 4 of Downton Abbey...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 13, 2014, 07:35:58 PM
Clara has a quality that harkens back to the Romannas - she dresses up very nicely, and the costume people are clearly having a very good time with that.  First companion of the revival for whom that's true, I think.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 13, 2014, 08:54:38 PM
...She should be on Season 4 of Downton Abbey...
It's already been filmed and shown. Season 5 is coming up next year. It'd be hilarious if she did get a part in it, considering that "Harriet Jones, Prime Minister" has been a regular on Downton Abbey from the start.

I will agree that Clara is dressed nicely (most of the time). But she's still near the bottom of my Companion List.

I read in an interview with Lalla Ward that she often picked out her own costumes, and since she had interesting ideas, the costume department went along.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 13, 2014, 09:12:43 PM
I saw a lot of the first season -when it was good- but completely failed to spot PM Harriet Jones.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 14, 2014, 01:41:37 AM
Matthew's mother.  :)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on October 14, 2014, 04:56:57 PM
This may have been Clara's prettiest outfit thus far. I loved the beadwork.

I wasn't as wild about the episode though.  This is yet another in a series of weakly developed antagonists from this season. An interesting premise, but at the point where the creature was starting to get really intriguing, the Dr. wrapped things up in five seconds - speeding through an explanation of its motivations and history like an auctioneer on crack.  The writers seem to think that we viewers are going to be so wrapped up in the strain in Clara and the Dr.'s relationship that we'll forget that they're bit by bit developing a secret uber- villain over the course of the season.  Unless they've got something really, really shocking up their sleeve, instead of being surprised, I think I might be too bored to care at all by then.

It's a shame, really.  I like this new Dr.  I like Clara.  I just don't have any strong feeling about them as a "couple."  This story arc seems to depend on my being invested in them in sort of a quasi-romantic pairing (even though they've supplied Clara with a perfectly adequate boyfriend on the side) to keep my interest while they laboriously build up their "Big Bad" for this season...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on October 14, 2014, 06:13:14 PM
There's even a music video for them...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=978013732212654 (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=978013732212654)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 14, 2014, 06:55:51 PM
What nuWho has missed is that the Doctor and his Companions are not supposed to be romantically linked. The closest Classic Who ever got to that was when Tom Baker and Lalla Ward were romantically linked in RL (married for a short time, actually) and it became obvious in some of their episodes (all that hand-holding in Paris in "City of Death"). And there's a great little scene in "State of Decay" in which the Doctor says to Romana: "Psst. You're wonderful."

As I said elsewhere, if I want to watch a soap opera in which the female lead lies to her boyfriend about spending time with another man, I'll watch General Hospital. There are four current storylines on that show where the female half of the relationship is blatantly lying to the male half of the relationship about another man.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 14, 2014, 07:19:39 PM
And Romanna was another Time Lord - River (gag) Song just as well have been.  I suspect Rose was a special case, too, after she'd absorbed the time vortex.

I suspect all others are not much more than pets.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 14, 2014, 07:33:02 PM
Well, K-9 was a pet.  :D
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 14, 2014, 07:38:10 PM
We look like Time Lords -and even have potential for a lot of the same powers, exposed to enough time energy- but I imagine we're rather like apes to them.

And who doesn't like monkeys?  They're adorable and funny.  But who does want to date a monkey?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 14, 2014, 07:42:30 PM
Considering our very short lifespans and different internal anatomy, we're really not that much like Gallifreyans.

As Susan matured, she probably had a lot of frustrations dealing with being left behind on Earth in a post-war zone. Imagine how the other humans would have treated her when they began to notice the years going by and she wasn't aging.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 14, 2014, 07:47:42 PM
Story idea.

-Susan, like the Master, was always a problem with the idea of all the Time Lords being wiped out.  Kill 'em all -whatever- but not Susan.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on October 15, 2014, 11:19:42 AM
But who does want to date a monkey?

Why don't you ask Fossey? :P
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 02:04:46 PM
Because somebody killed her, for one.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on October 15, 2014, 05:03:53 PM
Allow me to prescribe you a dose of spiritualism. :-*
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 05:29:23 PM
Eh.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 15, 2014, 05:44:00 PM
Allow me to prescribe you a dose of spiritualism. :-*
How about prescribing a time machine so we can go back and prevent her murder?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2014, 05:46:23 PM
Heckuva companion she'd make...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on October 15, 2014, 06:21:39 PM
Allow me to prescribe you a dose of spiritualism. :-*
How about prescribing a time machine so we can go back and prevent her murder?

It looks like your trust in the possibilities physics offers us are larger then mine. :dunno:
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 20, 2014, 03:30:04 AM
S08E09 Flatline HD (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x288dkr)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 20, 2014, 04:09:26 AM
Can someone please tell me I didn't hear Danny call Clara "[complaint or disagreeable woman]"?

Others have been asking elsewhere; the closed captioning confirms it, but I was really hoping it was wrong...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 26, 2014, 11:27:49 AM
So the way to put out a fire is to give it more oxygen... who knew?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 26, 2014, 03:24:10 PM
...I 'spose done right, you could get an explosion, which might blow it out...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 26, 2014, 09:58:36 PM
Have you seen the episode yet? It's like Doctor Who is in a competition for the Most Ridiculous, Childish, Scientifically-Illiterate TV Show.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 26, 2014, 10:04:49 PM
I'm still 13-some minutes into last week's episode.  Busy week, with the BE release - plus my aunt Pokey gave me the crud.

But it's always been scientifically illiterate...  The good ones with Tom Baker and one of the Romannas when we were kids?  Pretty dumb stuff. ;nod
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 27, 2014, 01:24:30 AM
Not this dumb.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 27, 2014, 02:35:40 AM
S08E10 In The Forest Of The Night (SD) (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x28mjh5)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mylochka on October 30, 2014, 12:46:33 AM
Yeah, science so bad that you just have to shrug and say,  "Because... magic, I guess."

Wonder if this whole season is just going to turn out to be the Doctor having a bad dream...?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on October 31, 2014, 05:52:30 PM
Oh, "Dallas"-style? :D
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 02, 2014, 11:14:24 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x296f6v_s08e11-dark-water-sd_travel#from=embed

Sorry 'bout embedding not currently being enabled.

I'm 2 3/4 episodes behind - need to put aside some time for watching...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on November 11, 2014, 09:48:49 AM
Gah.

That's about the most coherent comment I can make right now, having seen both this episode and the season finale.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 16, 2014, 12:24:53 AM
I'm a little disoriented after being cut off last week.  Is this the season finale?  I'd rather not google to find out, being a few weeks behind, for fear of getting more spoilered than I already am.  Time to get caught up, this weekend.

S08E12 Death in Heaven (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x29ocrj)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on November 16, 2014, 12:30:26 AM
Yes, thank goodness. There's only the Christmas show and then this season will be over (and hopefully Clara will be gone for good).

The Space Channel is showing the new season of Atlantis in place of Doctor Who. Since I never got into that show, I've gone back to my Netflix binge-watching - currently into Season 3 of Borgia.

BTW, BUncle, thank you for reposting these videos. It really helps those who either missed the episode completely or who missed parts of them. :)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 23, 2014, 01:43:51 AM
S08E09 Flatline HD (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x288dkr)
Eh - I've never cared for present-day adventures that don't even have UNIT and/or the Master in them.  Plus, Clara didn't dress up, the main virtue of the good episodes this series.

Can someone please tell me I didn't hear Danny call Clara "[complaint or disagreeable woman]"?

Others have been asking elsewhere; the closed captioning confirms it, but I was really hoping it was wrong...
He said "I've got our bench".  I don't hear too good, but that's the only thing I heard that sounded even close.  He was sitting on a bench in the park.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on November 23, 2014, 01:56:17 AM
Thanks.

It's insane, how much of this season has been unintelligible because the actors don't speak clearly.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 23, 2014, 02:48:45 AM
You can say that again.  I mean, welcome to my life - but I've definitely noticed that more in this series of Who than usual, even for English TV.

S08E10 In The Forest Of The Night (SD) (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x28mjh5)
No, pretty much nothing about that episode made sense.

And I don't like when stuff don't make sense.  How many million people live in London?  THEY all sure took it calmly and stayed home.  Quietly.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 23, 2014, 03:54:20 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x296f6v_s08e11-dark-water-sd_travel#from=embed (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x296f6v_s08e11-dark-water-sd_travel#from=embed)

Sorry 'bout embedding not currently being enabled.

I'm 2 3/4 episodes behind - need to put aside some time for watching...
Okay - that does it.  The Who revival does not have my permission to use the Master anymore.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on November 23, 2014, 04:01:01 AM
Disney should sue. I am never watching Mary Poppins ever again.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 23, 2014, 05:00:21 AM
S08E12 Death in Heaven (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x29ocrj)
If you're only going to break the toys, you can't have them.

-Also?  No more back-loading the season with suck.  That didn't work for Davies, either.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 28, 2014, 09:04:33 PM
The world exclusive preview of the Doctor Who Christmas Special. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsxEenCBRG0#ws)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on November 28, 2014, 10:54:09 PM
Well, that wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on November 29, 2014, 02:28:16 AM
um.  is the whole Santa thing a tradition?  someone mind posting links if so?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 29, 2014, 02:48:45 AM
I don't recall any Santa on Who before this.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on November 29, 2014, 02:51:01 AM
The "Doctor and Santa are Back" at the end is kinda misleading then? 
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 29, 2014, 02:52:43 AM
Santa appeared at the very end of the last episode of the season - or it was a joke; I dunno.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 26, 2014, 08:19:16 PM
S08E13 Last Christmas (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ddk5h)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on December 26, 2014, 08:24:06 PM
They've had other Santa references in the Christmas episodes (ie. Santas that were really Autons).

I won't spoil this one for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, but...

I didn't like 99.9% of it.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on December 26, 2014, 09:27:19 PM
I think I read something about the Doctors' sidekick signing on for another season?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on December 27, 2014, 01:17:44 AM
Yeah, dammit.  :mad:
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 27, 2014, 01:30:20 AM
The problem isn't Clara - it's bad writing...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: JeroenDStout on December 27, 2014, 02:46:07 PM
They've had other Santa references in the Christmas episodes (ie. Santas that were really Autons).

I won't spoil this one for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, but...

I didn't like 99.9% of it.

(SPOILERS)

The only part I liked was the dancing. That was the only part where I genuinely had no idea what was going on and felt anything could happen. Then everything became Moffat-y again.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 01, 2015, 08:54:23 PM
Meh.

It wasn't good, but I didn't hate it.  I don't get why innerwebs nerdz get so upset when a Dr Who episode doesn't make sense; they've never been reliable about that, and this one didn't make sense by design...

This series of Who was weak, to be sure.  Most everyone seems to agree that the new Doctor is working out but the episodes aren't very good.  That's bad, but not hopelessly bad, writing, I should think.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 10, 2015, 04:59:27 PM
Doctor Who Series 9 Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bB8fh4QUy-A#)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on July 11, 2015, 12:20:16 AM
I don't get why innerwebs nerdz get so upset when a Dr Who episode doesn't make sense; they've never been reliable about that, and this one didn't make sense by design...
I get upset because unless it's some kind of experimental writing that has another purpose to not making sense, a story has failed if it doesn't make sense.

The weirdest story I ever read was for my 2nd-year university French class - a "nouveau roman" called Le rendez-vous. The characters were changing ages, being young and old at the same time, there was some kind of weird noir mystery going on that I don't even remember what it was about... it's the most bizarre story I've ever read in any language, and if I wasn't such a stickler for recycling paper, I'd have torn that thing into little tiny pieces and thrown it out as soon as the course was over. It was that frustrating.

It was on par with some of the worst of the Matt Smith era, with its I-need-a-flowchart-to-figure-out-what's-going-on garbage.

 
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 11, 2015, 12:26:20 AM
But the acid test is whether you enjoyed it, confused or not...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on July 11, 2015, 12:38:29 AM
I didn't enjoy the French book, and didn't really like the Matt Smith era. The Capaldi era has had its ups and downs, mostly the latter. Actually, I didn't mind the character of Danny Pink as much as some people did.

I realize that this is not what most nuWho watchers think, but I'm really tired of actorswhotalktoofastormumble, and extraordinarily tired of stories that have dumbed-down the science to the point where we might as well be watching cartoons or fairy tales.

I've just started on my umpteenth re-read of Poul Anderson's Time Patrol series... now those are good time travel stories!
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 11, 2015, 12:45:00 AM
...It does seem like for all RTD's annoying writing tics, Moffat just isn't nearly as good a writer of adventure fiction.  If they get too afar of adventure in genre too often, that's a serious error, I think. 

Also?  Some of their big seasonal villains have really sucked hard.  Spare me the frequent dried-up sixtyish women, please.  I did notice, unhappily, what I think was Missy in that trailer...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 14, 2015, 03:17:41 PM
Doctor Who Series 9 Trailer #2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0csVdLbDMO4&feature=player_embedded#)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 09, 2015, 11:18:13 PM
I just had another look at the two season 9 trailers I've posted - and it reminds me the Who revival hasn't done well by the Master at ALL.  It's been ten years now, and you GOTS to step up your game if you can't do ANYTHING good with your hero's Moriarty  He should be as big on that show as the Daleks...

Makes me kind of glad they haven't troubled themselves to fish Romanna out of E Space -fingers crossed- which I would have done the second or third year, but then I would have come up with an appealing/cool Romanna or died trying, which is not the way to bet with the revival...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 09, 2015, 11:32:26 PM
For me, Romana will forever be Lalla Ward. This nuWho is clueless as to how to treat Classic characters.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 09, 2015, 11:53:12 PM
We're in complete agreement, save that I liked the first Romanna just fine, too, if not nearly as much.  They were very different, and clearly, it isn't Romanna if she isn't a quite good-looking clothes horse, scary-smart and super-cool, but having known two, I can -only as a concept, mind- imagine/probably embrace a third provided she meets those criterion. [shrugs] Lala Ward don't look like that no more; you kinda HAVE to make a new incarnation.

(Tamm was SUCH a missed opportunity - whether they were TRYING to do Steed and Peele, or not, they should have, and failed if that was ever the idea.  [It looked that way in her first episode, and I'm guessing Baker just wouldn't play ball.])

Quote
Experienced amateur!

Qualified new professional!

they are-
The Time Avengers!
(cue theme - Who-screech-intro Avengers)



-Meant to say in my last that Season nine is alleged to begin in ten days, so we'll have it posted here within two weeks from now, if we don't forget to look for it.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 10, 2015, 12:17:27 AM
Crap.  If we played the requisite instruments, I would totally have to make Mylochka animate it and make a video. 

The melded theme music is arranging itself in mah haid - Avengers backing beat, (languid buuuhduuh buum-buumBUUhDUUH BUUUUMbuuuumm-buuuum instead of Whos's staccato BUHduh bumbum. BUHduh bumbum. BUHduh bumbum. BUM-BUM!) with the Who melody played on the Avengers instruments at the Avengers warm romantic pace.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 10, 2015, 01:32:31 AM
Lala Ward don't look like that no more; you kinda HAVE to make a new incarnation.
I saw a recent(ish) clip of her on YouTube, sitting in the audience at one of Richard Dawkins' discussions that was recorded and posted. She's got much shorter hair now, but she was still blonde and still cute. I think she could easily reprise Romana II if she wanted.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 13, 2015, 02:35:03 AM
Doctor Who -New Series Prologue 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMI7K8KsTsA&feature=player_embedded#)

That there's one of the Sisterhood of Karn, I think, from Brain of Morbius and the ladies who turned the US movie Doctor into the 'secret' War Doctor...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2015, 05:06:18 PM
Jenna Coleman has confirmed that she's left Dr. Who.

One can only hope that the writers will not make similar mistakes with her successor, who I think will find her a hard act to follow.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 18, 2015, 06:38:50 PM
Yep, somebody at TrekBBS posted the happy news.  :)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2015, 06:48:09 PM
I do think the fault was not in Ms. Coleman, but the writing of the character...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 06:37:41 PM
I am astonished.

Doctor Who New Season Premiere Full Episode - The Magician's Apprentice - BBCAmerica  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXKbqtWnvFI#)

-Not because I've watched yet - this appears to be official, legal and everything...  Somebody asserted that it was only for the series premiere, alas...

(Word is, Missy.  ;goofy;  At least I have something passive to do for an hour - and then review.)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 07:06:44 PM
It's always tricky to say anything worthwhile without being intensely spoilery, but I pause at 10:11 in to say that all the setup stuff that has comprised it thus far has been very strong.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 07:34:28 PM
16:18

;goofy; ;goofy; ;goofy; ;goofy; ;goofy; ;goofy; ;goofy; ;goofy; ;goofy; ;goofy;
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 20, 2015, 07:39:47 PM
Wow. Payoff 40 years after one of the best scenes in Genesis of the Daleks - which is my favorite Doctor Who story ever.

Well done.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
Points for a Clara in the classroom scene that made sense, for once - until UNIT called... ;goofy;
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 07:53:12 PM
18:28

I am NOT a fan of the Mastress incarnation -hard to believe they managed to outdo the Tony Blair Master for crapping on the character- but she just called Clara something to her face that I've been saying for a long time about the Doctor's companions.  Like, the logic of it is right there that it's true.  The Doctor's a sort of old space cat lady w/ a taste for a certain breed, common enough, and a high turnover.

(-I do hereby christen her the Maggie Thatcher Master -like history, they forgot John Major....)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 08:38:13 PM
39:16

You have to wonder what exactly the Master had done at the beginning of the US movie to the Daleks, don't you?  It's the Master  - you have to figure he didn't just kill a few thousand; more like destroyed at least a whole planet full of them, minimum, maybe multiple Dalek solar systems.

He comes off like a loser, in the aggregate, every time you see him because the Doctor is there, but nobody else in the entirety of time and space should be able to lay a glove on him for long.  He always survives setbacks, he always escapes, he dies a lot but always, always always, gets better - and taking him on, even in an annoying reduced MTM incarnation, is a very, very, VERY stupid idea.  Even trying to team up with him is sorta like working for the Red Skull; you're probably gonna die.  Even if you take him with you, (S)HE's going to get better.

Lots of the Doctor's enemies who have lived to tell the tale STILL shouldn't want none of the Master in any context - he won't take his time talking and running around to destroy you; he'll just kill you.  Avoid at all costs.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 08:52:47 PM
When I went to make more coffee, I figured this rates popcorn; back to watching now...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on September 20, 2015, 09:16:01 PM
39:16

You have to wonder what exactly the Master had done at the beginning of the US movie to the Daleks, don't you?  It's the Master  - you have to figure he didn't just kill a few thousand; more like destroyed at least a whole planet full of them, minimum, maybe multiple Dalek solar systems.

He comes off like a loser, in the aggregate, every time you see him because the Doctor is there, but nobody else in the entirety of time and space should be able to lay a glove on him for long.  He always survives setbacks, he always escapes, he dies a lot but always, always always, gets better - and taking him on, even in an annoying reduced MTM incarnation, is a very, very, VERY stupid idea.  Even trying to team up with him is sorta like working for the Red Skull; you're probably gonna die.  Even if you take him with you, (S)HE's going to get better.

Lots of the Doctor's enemies who have lived to tell the tale STILL shouldn't want none of the Master in any context - he won't take his time talking and running around to destroy you; he'll just kill you.  Avoid at all costs.

True... But outside the Doctor, Missy (the Master) is the only known surviving Time Lord who will mess up your extermination fetish as a Dalek. And, not to be underestimated.

Plus, us old whovians may remember that this is not the first time the Master has come to the aid of the Doctor. He did reveal the Valeyard during the trial that #6 had. There is some, as Missy says, deep connection between the Master and the Doctor that has never been fully explored.

Speaking of valeyard (evil incarnation of the Doctor, remember this quote from the Master:

Quote
"There is some evil in all of us, Doctor – even you. The Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say you do not improve with age."

Capaldi may be 13th regen, but remember... one of those regens 10 did counted twice so this could technically be Valeyard time :D.

Hence the ending.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 09:24:40 PM
SHHHH!  Not quite there yet.

43:29
Well, I called some of that in my last.  She'll get better.  Hope it doesn't happen in the next episode, at least.  She shouldn't have been in this one - seriously.  It's the Dale the Whale rule.  The original Delgado Master should never have teamed with the Daleks in a throwaway adventure memorable mostly for him calling them stupid trashcans - it should have been this great, huge, thing, or not gone there at all.

The Who revival has definitely broken the Dale the Whale rule -wheeling out the Moriarty more than once a season dilutes and ruins him- left, right and center since 2005 with multiple enemies, though to be fair, the wonderful Delgado Master broke it as hard as it can be broken...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 20, 2015, 09:54:57 PM
Thing is, though, the Delgado version of the Master was over 40 years ago, and well before the Genesis of the Daleks scene that this current story stems from. I think you can excuse the Pertwee-era Master by saying that back then they were writing adventures, and had no idea that 40+ years later the show would still be on, and would have basically turned into Doctor Who: The Soap Opera.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 10:11:01 PM
Weelllll - 3's exile on Earth period was pretty fundamentally wrong-headed.  It was SO mundane, relatively for a string of Doctor adventures, especially in the aggregate.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 10:16:26 PM
44:40

Oh hell.  That guarantees that MTM gets better immediately the same way Clara does. ;goofy;
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 10:30:01 PM
Finished.

A whole letter grade deducted because Missy, but B+.  Good pacing, good popcorn, a good time.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 10:55:21 PM
I just had another look at the two season 9 trailers I've posted - and it reminds me the Who revival hasn't done well by the Master at ALL.  It's been ten years now, and you GOTS to step up your game if you can't do ANYTHING good with your hero's Moriarty  He should be as big on that show as the Daleks...

Makes me kind of glad they haven't troubled themselves to fish Romanna out of E Space -fingers crossed- which I would have done the second or third year, but then I would have come up with an appealing/cool Romanna or died trying, which is not the way to bet with the revival...
I've mentioned it before, but after the first season of the revival, I actually had a pretty good story pitch worked up for bringing back the Master -it was obvious to anyone that with all the other Time Lords dead, he'd get better.  He always gets better.  (At the End of The Universe, he'll be somewhere -separate from, and infinitely older than, the Derek Jaccobi chameleon-arched incarnation who fled there- doing something Dastardly and Horrific to try to reverse it when he dies like a [girldog] for the Last Time.)

There was a great deal more too it, but I had him trying to fish Romanna out of E-Space because, Romanna.  Gotta repopulate the race and all.  -Even if other Time Ladies were similarly rescue-able, who would you grab first?-  (The professional fanfic and audioplays are simply not canon, it's simply UNTHINKABLE that she died with the rest, and such a simple out with having her still in E-Space.)  It's a pity it's all lost in emails that Mylochka and I no longer have, 'cause I thought I threw in a bunch of neat stuff.

It is significant that I do not recall bothering with a handwave of how he survived the Time War.  It's The MASTER.  Same with this episode; that's what's left of The MASTER;  why even bother to explain?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 21, 2015, 12:29:33 AM
I went back to look at the series 9 Prologue video I posted recently, since it ought to make a lot more sense now, and discovered that it had been taken down.  Fear not; here it is, this time posted by the Beeb:

Exclusive scene - Doctor Who: Series 9 Prologue - BBC One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-fFyrxbSes#)

Interesting; it does indeed mean more now - not really much to it, though.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: vonbach on September 21, 2015, 01:08:58 AM
I'm not that big on the new Dr. Who. Fourth doctor for me.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 21, 2015, 01:16:05 AM
Me, too - and my mom and a lot of people with any taste at all.  But they're not making new ones of him anymore, and I've seen them all at least twice.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 21, 2015, 01:34:24 AM
Speaking of the Sisterhood, more than worth rewatching...

The Night of the Doctor: A Mini Episode - Doctor Who: The Day of the Doctor Prequel - BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo#)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on September 21, 2015, 09:12:13 AM
Especially in THIS situation, it deserves rewatching. the question is much to be reasked; IS THE DOCTOR a -goood- MAN?

But, maybe I read too much.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 21, 2015, 02:04:26 PM
I don't really think so.  They explicitly asked that question last year, and though he came up with answer, "I'm just a bloke with a box", it seems to still be in play.  Good point.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 25, 2015, 09:40:36 AM
That brief glimpse of a brown-haired John Hurt reminds me of how he looked in the movie Night Crossing, about a family that escapes from East Germany in a hot-air balloon.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Dio on September 25, 2015, 11:45:06 PM
That brief glimpse of a brown-haired John Hurt reminds me of how he looked in the movie Night Crossing, about a family that escapes from East Germany in a hot-air balloon.
I have never watched Dr. Who because it always appeared more as a British show.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 25, 2015, 11:50:05 PM
...I think I know what that means, but what's wrong with it being British, to you?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Dio on September 26, 2015, 12:02:14 AM
...I think I know what that means, but what's wrong with it being British, to you?
The accents occasionally irritate me for an unknown reason. I have nothing against people from the U.K.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 26, 2015, 12:09:33 AM
That's one of the things I had in mind, yes.  -Also, a certain amount of slang and references you'd never get even if the accents weren't a problem and the sound quality better - also the Beeb, and British movies, too, have tended to really noticeably lag behind contemporary American stuff for production quality, if not as inevitably dumbed-down, in the past.  I really notice the poor sound, being hard of hearing, and am glad to see them catching up in recent years.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 26, 2015, 12:18:52 AM
That brief glimpse of a brown-haired John Hurt reminds me of how he looked in the movie Night Crossing, about a family that escapes from East Germany in a hot-air balloon.
I have never watched Dr. Who because it always appeared more as a British show.
Maybe because it is a British show?


...I think I know what that means, but what's wrong with it being British, to you?
The accents occasionally irritate me for an unknown reason. I have nothing against people from the U.K.
There are certain accents that grate on my nerves, particularly the ones that sound like the speaker has a mouth full of pillow stuffing and is trying to talk through it; I can't be bothered to try to decipher that. And I also get annoyed with people who talk too fast.

But there are some UK accents that I could listen to all day. There's a phrase that "I could listen to (insert actor's name) read the phone book." That's how it is with certain UK actors, such as Patrick Stewart, Brian Blessed, Tom Baker, John Rhys-Davies, and so on. And David Tennant's natural accent is very pleasing (to my ears).
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 26, 2015, 12:34:06 AM
Yeah; those guys are all pretty pleasant to listen to.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 27, 2015, 04:24:33 PM
It doesn't look good, this morning, for finding the new episode.  It looks like they've cracked down at DailyMotion.

I'll check again later...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 02:48:51 AM
SUCCESS!  Took enough wading through bait-and-switch scam postings all over creation, and probably only a matter of time before someone who can read German takes this down, but here it is for now...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x37wsob_s09e02-die-vertraute-der-hexe_travel (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x37wsob_s09e02-die-vertraute-der-hexe_travel)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 03:49:30 AM
Interesting.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 03:57:37 AM
The Mastress didn't annoy me unbearably, and -eh- not as good as last week, but good.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 28, 2015, 05:35:27 AM
Well, the Doctor finally got the cup of tea he asked for 40 years ago!  ;lol

This was better than I expected, but what happened to the sonic screwdriver? I don't remember if Davros picked it up.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 01:43:11 PM
The Thals took it?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 28, 2015, 02:00:44 PM
In that case, wouldn't they have been able to mop the floor with the Kaleds long before Genesis of the Daleks? They would have had enough time to figure out at least some of how it works and boosted their technology accordingly.

But that didn't happen.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 02:10:51 PM
Hmm.  Advanced scanners and hand mines alongside biplanes and bows on the battlefield in the previous episode indicates that it probably wouldn't have mattered.  There's plenty of high tech still around they're not able to exploit.

Also?  Aren't the Thals really lame and hard to believe in not extinct?  They were brought back several times pre-Pertwee as some sort of threat to the Daleks, but isn't that pretty hard to believe once the Daleks got established and started conquering the universe?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on September 28, 2015, 02:19:38 PM
The Daleks takes place long after Genesis of the Daleks, on the Dalek timeline (although it's the reverse for the Doctor). In neither story are the Daleks able to manage stairs, and they need smooth floors.

So I don't have a problem believing that there could be small groups of Thals able to hide out and strike back.

Has nuWho even mentioned the Thals?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 02:23:04 PM
I don't believe they've been seen at all since Genesis, or mentioned.  I suspect they're indeed extinct in this Dalek timeline with Davros in it.

The Doctor said (in their second appearance?) that The Daleks took place a million years in the future, but I never bought it.  The Daleks are about as good at staying wiped out completely as the Master is at staying dead.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2015, 04:35:09 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x38ix8s_s09e03-unter-dem-see_travel (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x38ix8s_s09e03-unter-dem-see_travel)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2015, 05:21:00 AM
Well.

Somebody else watch that so we can talk about it.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 04, 2015, 10:32:00 AM
It's 2119, so I think they're going to have other problems in two or three decades (ie. the Daleks will show up...  :D ).


I don't get how the Doctor just pulled out that Orion's sword business.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2015, 12:40:07 PM
You know, I really don't like the "The Thing" episodes, where the Doctor steps into some isolated base or ship being stalked by the boogerman - but this flowed nicely for that sort of story.

It's like they used up all the awkward and lame last year.

-What's with the two-parters?  Is that a thing, now?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 04, 2015, 01:17:09 PM
Seems to be. After all, it helps the ratings to give the viewers a reason to come back next week, to see what happens next.

Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2015, 01:59:05 PM
I don't know if that's a good idea - but they definitely lost something characteristically and vitally Who in the revival with throwing out the cliffhangers.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 04, 2015, 02:22:51 PM
I still can't get the hang of nuWho, when it comes to story lengths. When I started watching the show back in the fall of 1982, it was one 25-minute episode per night. Later, PBS started showing the 90-minute full-length stories on Saturday night, so we had Doctor Who 6 nights/week. The TV-movie was like any TV movie... and then came nuWho with its single story here, two-parter there and it just doesn't feel right.

That said, so far this season isn't anywhere near as bad as last season (though I will still most sincerely be glad to see Clara leave).
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2015, 03:17:15 PM
Clara has yet to sport a cute outfit this season, and doubt she'll get one in part two of this...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2015, 08:55:47 PM
We've never discussed this, but at lunch, I was telling Mylochka I'd found and gotten the episode  up already last night, and when I said the Tardis materialized in an isolated base -- her upper lip twitched.  She hates those episodes, too.

-Weird how they so far seemed to use up all the boring last year.  I actually watch this one last night all the way through without stopping - it's been forever since they've been able to get me to do that.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on October 05, 2015, 07:44:21 PM
We've never discussed this, but at lunch, I was telling Mylochka I'd found and gotten the episode  up already last night, and when I said the Tardis materialized in an isolated base -- her upper lip twitched.  She hates those episodes, too.

-Weird how they so far seemed to use up all the boring last year.  I actually watch this one last night all the way through without stopping - it's been forever since they've been able to get me to do that.

In early Who, "Under Siege by Thing" episodes where cheap to make and fairly common. But, some of them were good. Like the 4th Doctor one with that big plant thing, the 4th Doctor one with the space colony and these hornet creatures eating folks who were in stasis, or the 7th doctor one in that haunted house.

Depends on how it's done.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 05, 2015, 07:56:20 PM
I just don't like that kind of story - it's only a matter of doing it so well I don't hate a particular one.  This is one of those --- so far.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: ColdWizard on October 05, 2015, 08:39:24 PM
I don't think I've ever watched any Dr. Who but am willing to entertain arguments as to why I should and where I should start.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 05, 2015, 08:47:35 PM
When you were 12, with the Tom Baker Doctor...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on October 05, 2015, 08:54:37 PM
Anywhere is good. I do not think there are any achievement unlocks for watching whole things through.

If going classic, avoid 6th Doctor episodes.

But, if you start with nuWho, anywhere is good. You could just start somewhere and most the episodes are pretty good.

Mrs. Green starts them with the episode "Blink". Should be on netflix or your friendly Svennsgard folks.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 05, 2015, 08:59:16 PM
-Keep in mind that the Weeping Angels are boring and lame and nothing they've been in was any good, and Mrs. Green is wrong and nothing but.  She is far from alone in this...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: ColdWizard on October 05, 2015, 09:00:41 PM
When you were 12, with the Tom Baker Doctor...
I was born during his doctorship. Doctorhood? (Doctorwho'd??)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on October 05, 2015, 09:09:47 PM
Tom Baker is pretty much considered "the best Doctor" of classic by many people. Some of those old stories do drag a bit, though.

From my experience for Classic:

1st Doctor: Very dated and A Lot of missing episodes.
2nd Doctor: MOST episodes missing, but very good acting for early TV shows.
3rd Doctor: Don't like it. Very dated 70s vibe.
4th Doctor: THE DOCTOR for many, but episodes drawn out.
5th Doctor: Mr. Celery lapel dude has some great moments, but Mary Sue companions get annoying.
6th Doctor: Has moments, but watching Peri is like listening to fingernails on a chalk board and #6 is a huge prick and horrible writing.
7th Doctor: Early episodes are too silly AND Peri issues. Later episodes were good but VERY LOW production values.

8th Doctor: All you have is a failed TV movie attempt. Maybe audio plays. A non-doctor.

Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 05, 2015, 09:15:14 PM
What I've seen of the first season of the show w/ Hartnell was astonishingly good, given the historical context, the budget and that it was a children's show...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 05, 2015, 09:18:46 PM
When you were 12, with the Tom Baker Doctor...
I was born during his doctorship. Doctorhood? (Doctorwho'd??)

His era. Whovians (Doctor Who fans) usually refer to the Fourth Doctor seasons as the "Tom Baker era" or the "Fourth Doctor era" (or fill in the other actors' names/numbers as applicable).

If you start with the Fourth Doctor, start from the beginning, with Robot. That's his regeneration story, when Tom Baker takes over from Jon Pertwee.

But it would be more fun, I'd think, to start with the First Doctor (William Hartnell) and work your way forward. It'd take awhile to get to the nuWho stuff (anything from 2005 onward), but the Classic era is best, anyway. ;)

Tom Baker is pretty much considered "the best Doctor" of classic by many people. Some of those old stories do drag a bit, though.

From my experience for Classic:

1st Doctor: Very dated and A Lot of missing episodes.
2nd Doctor: MOST episodes missing, but very good acting for early TV shows.
3rd Doctor: Don't like it. Very dated 70s vibe.
4th Doctor: THE DOCTOR for many, but episodes drawn out.
5th Doctor: Mr. Celery lapel dude has some great moments, but Mary Sue companions get annoying.
6th Doctor: Has moments, but watching Peri is like listening to fingernails on a chalk board and #6 is a huge prick and horrible writing.
7th Doctor: Early episodes are too silly AND Peri issues. Later episodes were good but VERY LOW production values.

8th Doctor: All you have is a failed TV movie attempt. Maybe audio plays. A non-doctor.

 :mad: Thou shalt NOT diss the Eighth Doctor! Paul McGann was perfect for the role, and damn well should have gotten his own TV era of stories.

BTW, what does Peri have to do with the Seventh Doctor? They were never together. You might mean Ace...?

What I've seen of the first season of the show w/ Hartnell was astonishingly good, given the historical context, the budget and that it was a children's show...

Some of his stories are considered among the best, even 52 years later. The historicals - The Aztecs and The Romans, in particular.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 05, 2015, 09:26:10 PM
I was shocked when I finally saw some of that stuff.  -Not so much that it was actually good as a perception of shockingly low levels of "screw it; no one will know the difference" at any level of the production.  Like, I'm aware that the Beebe has stupid-on-purpose shows, mostly sitcoms, going way back - but it looked like everyone on Who right there from the beginning, was trying to make quality TV...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on October 05, 2015, 09:33:46 PM
Valka, you are correct about Peri. It was not her but her evil twin in obnoxiousness, Mel!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y2Vqyo5c1M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y2Vqyo5c1M)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 05, 2015, 09:39:51 PM
@Green1: Yep, Mel is consistently one of the most hated companions. She was on the bottom of my list until Ace and Clara came along. But none of them are among those I find likable.

@BUncle: This is why I was so annoyed at the Fifth Doctor story where they said that the Mayan civilization was thousands of years old, from South America. Any elementary history text about Mexico/Central America would have told them that wasn't true.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: ColdWizard on October 05, 2015, 10:18:37 PM

@BUncle: This is why I was so annoyed at the Fifth Doctor story where they said that the Mayan civilization was thousands of years old, from South America. Any elementary history text about Mexico/Central America would have told them that wasn't true.

What? Sounds like a reason to not watch any of it. Though presumably that's not representative of the "quality" of the show overall...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 05, 2015, 10:40:21 PM
I should say that this wasn't typical. For some reason this mistake got past someone who should have caught it.

They weren't sloppy like that with the rest of it.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Green1 on October 06, 2015, 08:17:12 AM
@Valka: Ace was actually tolerable and interesting. Curse of the Fenric did her great justice. I would put her up in the top 10 companions. But, each his own.

@Coldwizard: Just go to netflix if you have it and pick a random nuWho episode. Doctors 9,10 and 11 are pretty good. Some would argue 11 is the best doctor.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 06, 2015, 01:32:26 PM
There were maybe 40-50% of the Ninth Doctor stories I liked (Eccleston). In general I liked the Tenth Doctor (Tennant). I couldn't stand the Eleventh Doctor (Smith). Any era that needs a flowchart to follow it, not to mention repeated utterances of "I lied" (which is just the producer's way of saying 'hey, I can retcon anything I want and just say it's true because the previous continuity was a lie') is not going to endear me to that era.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 11, 2015, 04:12:39 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x398e9z_s09e04-vor-der-flut_travel (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x398e9z_s09e04-vor-der-flut_travel)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 11, 2015, 05:03:37 PM
Hmm.

Didn't suck.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 18, 2015, 07:39:59 PM
dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3a16hs)
Doctor Who Season 9 Episode 5 - The Girl Who Died
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 18, 2015, 08:33:36 PM
...Kind of dumb, if you ask me...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 19, 2015, 06:05:12 AM
I was actually afraid I'd missed the 2nd part of that one from a week ago. This season is surprisingly not horrible.

I'll watch and comment on the latest one after tomorrow (election day here).
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: ColdWizard on October 20, 2015, 04:17:49 AM
I kind of like Doctor 9 but couldn't make it through the first two episodes. The Dalek episode was ok-ish.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 20, 2015, 04:23:55 AM
The ninth Doctor or the ninth season?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: ColdWizard on October 20, 2015, 05:39:37 AM
Ninth doctor.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 24, 2015, 04:01:57 PM
Okay, I've had time to watch it.

Finally, we get confirmation that "reverse the polarity of the neutron flow" is just the Whovian equivalent of technobabble.  :D


Actually, this episode wasn't too bad. I liked the closing montage, showing how time passes for her. I'm interested to see what she made of her immortality (probably something bad, but not out of malice).
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2015, 04:09:55 PM
I have a feeling that she's going to be one of those characters who pop up a lot until we're sick of her - probably by the third time.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 25, 2015, 02:19:10 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3aw11a_s09e06-die-frau-die-lebte_travel (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3aw11a_s09e06-die-frau-die-lebte_travel)
Doctor Who Series 9 Episode 6 The Woman Who Lived
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 25, 2015, 03:14:02 PM
Meh.

It would have helped if I could understand what people were saying.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on October 31, 2015, 02:56:11 PM
Yeah, it was a bit mumbly in places. Not too bad, but rather predictable.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 01, 2015, 03:45:46 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3bugae_s09e07-invasion-der-zygonen_travel (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3bugae_s09e07-invasion-der-zygonen_travel)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 01, 2015, 04:35:04 AM
 ;goofy;
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on November 01, 2015, 05:17:29 AM
So was that a shout-out to Harry Sullivan (the naval surgeon who developed the weapon against the Zygons)?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 01, 2015, 01:35:45 PM
I guess.  I find Harry, much like the Zygons, forgettable.
Title: Dr Who: The Zygon Inversion
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2015, 04:57:19 AM
The Zygon Inversion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3c6twi_s09e08-die-verwandlung-der-zygonen_travel)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2015, 02:34:32 PM
Sleep no More (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3d8hn4_s09e09-schlaflos-im-all_travel)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2015, 09:13:40 PM
That just wasn't very good, was it?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on November 16, 2015, 12:59:25 AM
I think the word you're looking for is "crap."

Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 16, 2015, 01:05:36 AM
I think I said I hate when Who does the The Thing-premise episodes -small group in a base or ship getting picked off one by one by the boogerman of the week- the last time they did it; a few episodes ago.

No idea what happened at the end, either.  Didn't see the Doctor and Clara leave.

And Clara hasn't dressed up a time all season.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on November 16, 2015, 02:11:27 AM
I missed the conclusion of the Zygon one. Was it worth watching at all?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 16, 2015, 02:24:48 AM
It helps a lot if you like the nerd girl -which I did more before this- and I didn't hate it as much as the one before.  Go in with low expectations and I suppose it's worth the time...

This season started strong, but is heading downhill fast, I say.  Not looking forward to the next appearance or two of the immortal girl, and I hear stupid River Song's to be in the Christmas special.  -Can't say that comes as a shock, but it is a disappointment...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 22, 2015, 12:45:09 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3e9ikg_s09e10-im-reich-des-raben_travel (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3e9ikg_s09e10-im-reich-des-raben_travel)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on November 22, 2015, 07:10:21 AM
Ick. I feel smothered in violins.

As companion deaths go, this was really stupid. But good riddance.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 23, 2015, 12:03:50 AM
That wasn't exactly a good episode, but I was able to sit all the way through it without breaks or playing any freecell.  The immortal girl hasn't become hopelessly tiresome yet.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 28, 2015, 02:06:11 AM
It's possibly worth noting that Clara didn't run - since they made a point that everyone runs, that could be significant.  Also?  The Mastress claimed that Clara was a project of hers...

Also, there could still be echoes of Clara still scattered all over time, and this happened in part one of a two-parter.  We'd hardly think she was really dead if we weren't looking for it.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on November 28, 2015, 02:30:59 AM
Well, evidently the actress is still around, playing some other version of Clara.

<LONG STRING OF CENSORED WORDS>, WILL YOU JUST GET RID OF HER ALREADY???!!!  :mad:
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 28, 2015, 03:13:54 AM
Dress 'er up first.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 29, 2015, 02:49:49 AM
Heaven Sent (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3f7iwp_s09e11-vom-himmel-gesandt_travel)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 29, 2015, 03:49:08 AM
Huh.

I think you'll hate it, Valka.  Maybe.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on November 29, 2015, 08:12:02 AM
Holy crap. It's a Doctor Who/Cube/Star Trek/Groundhog Day crossover.

Nifty set, though. I've always been fascinated by castle architecture.

And if the rooms keep renewing themselves, how come he was able to make any headway at all by punching that wall?

Bzzt! Continuity fail.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 06, 2015, 03:01:28 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3g7jyq_s09e12-in-die-holle-verbannt_travel (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3g7jyq_s09e12-in-die-holle-verbannt_travel) Hell Bent
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on December 06, 2015, 05:49:48 PM
cheat, CHEAT, CHEAT!!!!!!

Dammit, why can't she stay DEAD!!!  :mad:
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 06, 2015, 06:56:04 PM
More questions than answers, and ended up not making all the sense in the world, but a fun ride.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on December 06, 2015, 07:13:49 PM
Okay, I can see the fanfic value in a TARDIS shaped like a 1950s diner. Have it materialize around Arnold's, for example, and hey presto, you can have Fonzie as one of Clara's companions.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 06, 2015, 07:31:39 PM
He's much cooler than the Daleks...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Rusty Edge on December 06, 2015, 08:07:59 PM
cheat, CHEAT, CHEAT!!!!!!

Dammit, why can't she stay DEAD!!!  :mad:


Because somebody is always mucking about with time. History is always subject to change. How many times have the Daleks been vanquished?  The possibilities are limitless.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on December 06, 2015, 08:35:19 PM
That's different. These nuWho Companions never stay decently GONE, once they're supposedly no longer companions.

Hell, they don't even stay dead, once they die.

Did Adric reappear twice after his death? Yep - first as a vision perpetrated by the Master, who erred because he didn't know Adric was dead (and that his Badge for Mathematical Excellence had been destroyed), and second, during the Fifth Doctor's regeneration (because the Doctor felt guilty for not being able to save him).

Did Adric just waltz into the TARDIS as if nothing had happened, after he died?

No. He's dead, and stayed that way.

Clara has been annoying for YEARS, and she can't even stay dead right!

After the actress is done with her Queen Victoria thing, will she just pop back with a cheery, "Hello, Doctor, see - still no pulse or breathing, so I'm fine, let's have an adventure!"?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Rusty Edge on December 07, 2015, 04:57:16 AM
Maybe it's just as well that I'm not still watching.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mart on December 14, 2015, 02:28:52 AM
Everything we know so far about ‘Doctor Who’ Season 10 (http://www.cultbox.co.uk/features/guides/doctor-who-season-10-news-summary-2016)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Mart on December 21, 2015, 09:18:40 PM
So they say, 97 !!! episodes are missing between years 1967 and 1978.
If only Data Angels were here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_missing_episodes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_missing_episodes)

Interesting, that "Doctor Who is unusual, however, in that each of its 97 missing episodes survives in audio form, recorded off-air by fans at home"
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on December 21, 2015, 11:39:29 PM
There's a Doctor Who marathon on the 24th (on the Space Channel). I'm not gonna bother.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on December 26, 2015, 06:40:57 AM
Well. I've just seen the Christmas show, "The Husbands of River Song." It's a bit... frenetic, but not bad.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 27, 2015, 03:41:28 PM
Husbands of River Song (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3h914q_s09e13-die-ehemaenner-von-river-song_travel)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 27, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
Meh.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 10, 2016, 03:11:12 PM
Doctor who anime Full (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt3qZYUPi2Y#)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 23, 2016, 09:44:40 PM
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaLficIRInM#)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Valka on April 24, 2016, 12:24:24 AM
"Bill"?  ::)

That had better be short for 'Wilhelmina'.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 24, 2016, 12:26:12 AM
[shrugs]
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 12, 2016, 02:27:34 AM
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFcSe0VrbXc#)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: E_T on October 12, 2016, 04:01:40 AM
This is my favorite compilation video, great intro to The Doctor...

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wyF9s1_VvI#)

Jon Pertwee (his son plays Alfred on Gotham) was my First Doctor.

Who was ya'lls??
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 12, 2016, 04:12:16 AM
Tom Baker.  Early 80s reruns on PBS - I sorta thought the end of the theme music was the opening words to the Austin City Limits theme, and wonder if anyone will get the joke.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: E_T on October 12, 2016, 04:36:46 AM
The very first episode was towards the end of Inferno.  The Doctor escapes the parallel earth, and arrives back, unconscious.   Liz Shaw checked and commented that BOTH his Hearts were beating fine....  BOTH!!

Immediately hooked...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 12, 2016, 01:32:35 PM
More could have been done with Nazi Britain Earth...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 12, 2016, 10:56:12 PM
Pertwee and Baker. I was more of a Sarah Jane fan at first.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 12, 2016, 11:08:47 PM
Mylochka HATED Sarah Jane back in the day...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: E_T on October 13, 2016, 12:35:22 AM
I couldn't stand Mel (6th/7th Doctor), her screams go right through me...  Loved Ace

Have you heard any of the Big Finish Audios??  If you have seen "Night of the Doctor" (prequel to the Day of the Doctor episode) and taken note of whom The Doctor references when he is about to drink the drought?  They are the names of his Companions in the Big Finish 8th Doctor Series, so they are now "canon"...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 13, 2016, 12:38:43 AM
...Or at least some people with the same names.  Adaptions into other media can never leave the details of the original alone...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: E_T on October 13, 2016, 12:43:05 AM
Nope, I do not believe that those Companions were ever in anything else but Big Finish Productions...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: E_T on October 13, 2016, 01:07:10 AM
Charlie Pollard was a a very few Short Stories, not sure about the others...


From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_of_the_Doctor
Quote
ContinuityBefore regenerating, the Doctor mentions Charley Pollard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_Pollard), C'rizz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%27rizz), Lucie Miller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucie_Miller), Tamsin Drew (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamsin_Drew), and Molly O'Sullivan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_O%27Sullivan), his companions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Companion_%28Doctor_Who%29) in audio dramas produced by Big Finish Productions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Finish_Productions).[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_of_the_Doctor#cite_note-Den_of_geek-6) This marks the first time that the Big Finish audio series has been directly referenced in the television show.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_of_the_Doctor#cite_note-BBC_America-7) Karn and the Sisterhood also appeared in Eighth Doctor stories, but debuted in the television show in The Brain of Morbius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brain_of_Morbius), a 1976 Fourth Doctor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Doctor) story.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_of_the_Doctor#cite_note-BBC_America-7)
The name of the priestess in this story, Ohila, is a reference to Ohica, the name of the High Priestess of the Sisterhood in The Brain of Morbius, although no direct connection between the two characters is established.[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_of_the_Doctor#cite_note-8)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 02, 2017, 07:30:54 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x56d051 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x56d051)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 02, 2017, 09:20:45 PM
Well, that was okay.  I don't know what people expect, for all the grousing about this I've heard in the last week...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: E_T on January 05, 2017, 03:33:17 PM
What grousing?

How did you like the trailer for the upcoming tenth Series?  I can't wait...  But then, I've been a Fan since I had seen my first Doctor, Jon Pertwee...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 05, 2017, 03:45:56 PM
Oh, on the John Byrne forum, they all think it was stupid.

-Like they didn't know they were watching Doctor Who.


No strong opinion about the trailers I've seen.  Clips don't give me much sense of whether the new companion is going to win me over.  There's something in my heart that wants to snark at the boldness of doing a dalek story - but the revival has tended to be at its strongest dealing with the classic villains who weren't the Master...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: E_T on January 05, 2017, 03:54:52 PM
I recently heard that this might be Peter's Last Season...

I would like to see the Actor whom played Newt Scalamander on the Fantastic Beast Film to be his replacement...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 05, 2017, 04:05:36 PM
I'm not familiar with that film.  Is it that Dr-Who-only-with-wizards movie starring Eddie Redmayne that came out a few months ago?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: E_T on January 06, 2017, 02:41:34 AM
There were a few times in that movie where Eddie's performance struck me as being Doctor Quality...  I was able to easily visualize him as The Doctor

And it's not something that I think about while watching a Movie, but it was just something that was very strong and out of the blue...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 06, 2017, 04:32:39 AM
I thought it SHOUTED Dr. Who in the commercials...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 15, 2017, 09:16:35 PM
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYhIqjuxVKE&feature=youtu.be#)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 23, 2017, 08:24:37 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5iolml_s10e01-der-pilot_travel (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5iolml_s10e01-der-pilot_travel)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 23, 2017, 09:33:37 PM
...That was --- okay...

On to the latest episode...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 23, 2017, 09:33:46 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5jfvzd_s10e02-bitte-lacheln_travel (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5jfvzd_s10e02-bitte-lacheln_travel)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 23, 2017, 10:21:22 PM
Siiigh.

Looks so far like the new season is going to be nothing but half-hearted horror.  I hate it when new Who does horror too often, not least because it only does it half-hearted.  The weeping angels suck.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on April 24, 2017, 01:29:17 PM
Siiigh.

Looks so far like the new season is going to be nothing but half-hearted horror.

Oooo, when/where? 
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 24, 2017, 02:56:18 PM
Starting with Reply #354 above. ;nod
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 01, 2017, 01:34:19 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5kbsw8 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5kbsw8)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on May 01, 2017, 05:10:12 AM
What are those suits supposed to be? 
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 01, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Regency-era diving suits.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 07, 2017, 08:12:58 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5l9isw (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5l9isw)https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5l9isw (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5l9isw)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 07, 2017, 09:27:45 PM
Groan.

Halfway through the episode, it's un-scary attempted horror again.  -And I'm not warming to the new companion, so far...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on May 08, 2017, 10:11:06 PM
Haven't watched them yet, but some of us like funny attempted humor. 

It's how [poop] like this makes the airwaves.  At least I hope there's no one that sees it as anything but comedy...
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1_u_SNExa8#)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 14, 2017, 08:28:02 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5m81wx (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5m81wx)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 14, 2017, 09:08:27 PM
Ugh.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on May 16, 2017, 11:46:54 PM
SPACE ZOMBIES!!!
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on May 16, 2017, 11:47:32 PM
I really want a muppets zombies in spaaaaaace now. 
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 17, 2017, 01:34:25 AM
SPACE ZOMBIES!!!
Lame space zombies.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on May 17, 2017, 06:04:18 PM
Lame space zombies.

I've yet to meet any other kind...depending on how we classify the horror trek movie.  I mean, the borg are pretty much space zombies, aren't they?  And the movie version weren't half bad at it. 
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 17, 2017, 06:13:06 PM
First Contact?  -One of the less-lame uses of the Borg, yes.

Have you actually watched any of these new Who episodes, then?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on May 17, 2017, 07:04:41 PM
Not yet.  Though I will be.  Talia and I are binging some shows on Netflix recently.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 17, 2017, 07:36:33 PM
I look forward to you having had a look - you seem to have missed my point about lame, un-scary, attempted horror...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on May 17, 2017, 08:38:03 PM
I haven't seen much else lately. Non-lame horror is a needle in a haystack.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on May 17, 2017, 08:38:50 PM
But these are looking more like outer limits than doctor who.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 21, 2017, 03:06:29 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5n5ogf (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5n5ogf)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 21, 2017, 04:09:07 PM
[shrugs]  The boogerman DID turn up in the third act, but this wasn't about that...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on May 21, 2017, 06:08:07 PM
LOOKATME!!!
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 21, 2017, 06:59:14 PM
How?

You have no avatar.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 21, 2017, 07:57:51 PM
[shrugs]  The boogerman DID turn up in the third act, but this wasn't about that...
...In fact, if he's not who I think, they should never have used that character design in this story - but if it is who I think (or deliberately related), good job on that detail.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on May 21, 2017, 08:17:03 PM
THAT'S BECAUSE WE AREN'T REAL! SIMULATIONS IN AN ALIEN COMPUTER!
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 21, 2017, 09:25:57 PM
You are...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 28, 2017, 04:18:01 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5o4waf (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5o4waf)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 28, 2017, 05:16:35 PM
Not even meh.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Neeley on June 01, 2017, 03:01:45 PM
I can't wait for a new doctor. peter Capaldi has been a big disapointment. Worst doctor ever?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 01, 2017, 03:27:54 PM
Oh, I think the problem isn't Capaldi - it's that he's been in a lot of badly-written episodes.  Capaldi's performance brings a little edge, true to the style of the revival, and a lot of traditionalness of a dotty older man, a la' Tom Baker...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on June 02, 2017, 01:44:17 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5o4waf (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5o4waf)


"Content refused

This video is removed due to a copyright
complaint of BBC"
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 02, 2017, 01:53:23 PM
A guy who uses German titles to avoid the searches hadn't posted Sunday.  Here.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5obljq (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5obljq)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 05, 2017, 10:51:55 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5p0x72 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5p0x72)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 06, 2017, 02:18:17 AM
I have to complain - given that it's public knowledge that John Sims, the Tony Blair Master, is coming back this season, and that it's the Mastress in the vault as shown in part one of this story  --- it is simply WRONG and STUPID to feature corpse-faced aliens in hooded robes and have there be no connection whatsoever to the corpse-faced incarnation of the Master, not even a red herring.  :mad:
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 11, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pz44d (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pz44d)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 11, 2017, 03:54:53 PM
That sucked less than the rest of the season...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on June 11, 2017, 05:19:22 PM
Didn't quite like the Monks.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 11, 2017, 06:49:48 PM
I mean, I could easily see the Master later turning out to be behind them - mocking the Doctor during the showdown later for overlooking such and obvious clue.  I would forgive them then...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on June 11, 2017, 07:36:44 PM
Dunno (Dr.) Who the Master is, so...
This is the first Dr. Who season I started to watch from the beginning, and its only so because you made it easy.

Edit: oh, so "Missy" is the Master?
(Dr.) Who knows, maybe Missy in her earlier incarnation didn't defeat them, but annexed them.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 11, 2017, 09:17:05 PM
The Master is the Doctor's Moriarty, his evil opposite.  Here's his incarnations prior to the revival.

(http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/masters-classic.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on June 12, 2017, 05:21:03 AM
The Master is the Doctor's Moriarty, his evil opposite.  Here's his incarnations prior to the revival.

(http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/masters-classic.jpg)


Where can I find #2....
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 12, 2017, 12:32:37 PM
The Deadly Assassin.  Tom Baker, 1975, Gallifrey, Leela, several episodes in, I believe.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 18, 2017, 07:10:16 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5r0tbo (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5r0tbo)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 18, 2017, 08:12:46 PM
Boring - but at least no attempted horror, despite having a monster...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 26, 2017, 02:49:38 AM
I predict in advance that this will suck, even by comparison to a season I've mostly trashed.  I've not liked either of the Master in the revival...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5rv272 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5rv272)
Let's look and see, shall we?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 26, 2017, 04:33:51 AM
16:15
I will be dipped.  I've enjoyed this, one third of the way in...

22:01
Yo; a scene has FINALLY succeeded modestly as horror.  -A first this season.

...Why is Zathras from Babylon5 in this?....

Ah.  Relativistic time dilation - right.  The Great Machine fix, and Zathras fix Machine. ;nod'

---

I'll be John Browned - I'm calling 'good' on an episode of Who this season.  Good pacing, I didn't get bored and the jokes were funny.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 02, 2017, 03:16:30 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5sbaq4 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5sbaq4)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on July 02, 2017, 04:36:51 PM
I'm already three episodes behind?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 02, 2017, 05:40:25 PM
Yes - at least.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on July 02, 2017, 07:11:44 PM
Not anymore. :D
I don't think they got the time dilation thing right for Bill's abduction.
Down under they should've observed the Tardis' arrival and started upwards way before our blue crewman even noticed.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 02, 2017, 09:51:16 PM
Yeah - I don't believe in a ship able to take that kind of structural stress, or a black hole with that broad/fuzzy an event horizon.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 17, 2017, 01:56:19 PM
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-_bSdWEYK8#)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on July 20, 2017, 10:04:56 AM
Yeah - I don't believe in a ship able to take that kind of structural stress, or a black hole with that broad/fuzzy an event horizon.

Just to get UnO interested: by definition a black hole is not a hole, but a mass... Thus "black mass" would be a better nomer for such an object. ;)
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on July 23, 2017, 12:41:15 PM
Oh, that was this series' finale.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 23, 2017, 12:42:15 PM
Yeah.  'Fraid so.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on July 23, 2017, 12:44:06 PM
Guess next season you might criticast doctoress then. :D
Wonder if we'll get an android companion then.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Beowulf on August 01, 2017, 07:37:14 AM
This TV is cool but so time eating  ??? I "quit" it.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: E_T on August 02, 2017, 05:18:54 AM
But these are looking more like outer limits than doctor who.

Old outer limits or newer?  The one with the crashlanded medication transport ship and the space spiders still gives me the willies...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: E_T on August 02, 2017, 05:21:43 AM
Yeah - I don't believe in a ship able to take that kind of structural stress, or a black hole with that broad/fuzzy an event horizon.

Read Neutron Star by Larry Niven...
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 02, 2017, 12:33:29 PM
When I was nine the first time.

It was an order of magnitude smaller, and he still had to invent a magic hull.
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Unorthodox on August 02, 2017, 05:38:18 PM
But these are looking more like outer limits than doctor who.

Old outer limits or newer?  The one with the crashlanded medication transport ship and the space spiders still gives me the willies...

90s-2000s run. 
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on August 03, 2017, 10:47:49 AM
Yeah - I don't believe in a ship able to take that kind of structural stress, or a black hole with that broad/fuzzy an event horizon.

Read Neutron Star by Larry Niven...

That wasn't a black hole. :P
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Geo on August 03, 2017, 10:50:06 AM
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-_bSdWEYK8#)


Just wondering, but is this New Doctor intro still taking place in that ship trying to get away from the black hole?
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: E_T on November 24, 2019, 10:33:58 PM
Oh YEAH!!!
Title: Re: Dr Who
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 29, 2025, 04:02:28 AM
I saw a pic of Leela somewhere

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXRbWFWUoy8Z8iMdbYr3XNg1FiAGTNGHy9LA&s)  (https://www.shutterstock.com/editorial/image-editorial/M7T7M9z7M5D1M03dNTIz/louise-jameson-new-companion-leela-set-dr-440nw-60906aq.jpg)(https://www.scifinow.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Louise_Jameson.jpg)

-and was reminded that, though many a woman who looked hot in 1975 no longer meets contemporary standards --- this one certainly holds up.  None of these pics from a really quick search does her hotness justice.
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