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Title: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on June 14, 2018, 03:14:58 AM

It's not right to keep cluttering the cooking thread and I don't want to sully my random one. 

So, I'm officially about where I was 4 years ago. 

Because the pants fit again.

I'm tempering any celebratory shenanigans however, as you really can't tell.  I don't really LOOK any different. 

I've more or less got the corn syrup habit kicked.  Other corn products/ingredients are more difficult to cut out just because of their ubiquity. 

The Simply _____________ products have really eased the soda problem.  Simply strawberry lemonade, or simply mixed berry, etc.  I was genuinely surprised how many of the orange and fruit juices had corn syrup.   A little juice glass curbs the soda crave most the time. 

Next on my list will be cutting down on sugar, however.  (not fructose, just sugar sugar)  with most the substitutes and allergy problem, we'll see how it goes.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Lorizael on June 14, 2018, 03:49:15 AM

I'm at just over 200 lbs, which is about 10 lbs less than my heaviest. I need to lose probably 20 lbs. Easiest way would be to cut down on mountain dew. I also need to lay off the snacks/candy and the muffin+juice for breakfast.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 14, 2018, 06:31:35 PM

Corn starch and corn sweeteners are rather ubiquitous. But, if you can eliminate an allergen, it's usually worth it.

I find that managing sweets was a lot like when I had to manage salt. After about six weeks of determined effort to avoid it, my taste re-calibrated so that I prefer it without any added.  Also, cinnamon curbs a sugar craving.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on June 14, 2018, 08:06:33 PM

Yeah I’ve hit that point with corn syrup.  It just doesn’t taste right.

My biggest problem is the water at work sucks and I can’t conveniently pack some from home any more.  Meanwhile hydrating is key to the gall bladder issues. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 19, 2018, 06:14:41 AM

Quantitative- My last weigh-in was steady to a couple of tenths of a pound. Maybe I'm retaining water as the temperature increases again. Bought pants today. 4" less on the waistline than the last pair I remember buying ( and they were built to stretch, expecting further growth).

 
Qualitative- 1) I was trying to catch a cat under the bed. I could feel the end of my breast bone. I can't remember the last time that happened. 2) Also, I forgot to bring my CPAP machine. My wife insists I didn't snore. I slept through the night without waking up. I am, or was, the loudest snorer I have ever heard in my life. Two nights so far. 3) I can wear my belt buckle on the front of my pants without it digging in to my belly when I sit.


That's all well and good. Since I am fishing and I promised myself some exceptions to the rules I have been following with such rigor, I am also compensating with some extra physical activity/exercise. So while things are different, I hope to at least hold steady for the duration of the trip.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on June 19, 2018, 04:42:55 PM

Have fun!!

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: ColdWizard on July 06, 2018, 06:27:17 PM

I lost 10 pounds from not sleeping and coughing up phlegm. A silver lining situation, but an opportunity to build off of.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on July 06, 2018, 10:49:04 PM

Ironically, I kinda dropped *just* below 75 kilo's by switching from cookies/biscuits to ice cream. ;lol

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 06, 2018, 11:01:42 PM

Quote from: ColdWizard on July 06, 2018, 06:27:17 PM

I lost 10 pounds from not sleeping and coughing up phlegm. A silver lining situation, but an opportunity to build off of.

That's a great attitude. I reccommend that you rehydrate with unsweetened liquids.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: ColdWizard on July 07, 2018, 02:26:51 AM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on July 06, 2018, 11:01:42 PM

That's a great attitude. I reccommend that you rehydrate with unsweetened liquids.

I've been having some trouble with my usual large water containers and have resorted to pouring them into smaller cups, which I somehow find easier to drink. Still not as hydrated as I would like to be. Might have to get some watermelon or something.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 07, 2018, 09:48:11 PM

Tomorrow will complete 4 months on my diet. I've lost about 49.5 pounds so far, I expect 50 at tomorrow's weigh-in. I've been adding exercise, but I haven't re-attempted sit-ups yet, maybe it's time to try again. I'm trying to stretch before walking a mile and 3/4ths every day.

I've started doing a few push-ups, adding one more each day. I guess my back and what-not is better. If it reaches a point where I can't do them all, I'll simply split it into two sessions. I may reach a point where I need to stop because of my joints. We'll see. I was at one push-up per year of age each day, back about the time I was married, but it overtaxed my elbow, so I quit. Whenever I go to the basement, I've also been doing some exercises with a boat anchor in each hand. They're not big, 17lbs-ish each. I'm surprised how often I make the trip- our freezers are down there, and so is the clothes line, for pants, mostly. Yesterday it was for a kitchen appliance. We have a number there which only get used a couple of times/year, if that.

The weight might be coming off faster than I expected overall, but I don't see any signs of wrinkled skin yet. I've been using a belt with a sort of bumper jack mechanism because it tightens in increments of about a quarter inch. Well, I reached the last notch in the track yesterday, so I removed the buckle/latch and cut about 5 inches from that end of the belt before re-attaching it. That's a great feeling.

So it's going well for my body. On another front, not so much.. I've been trying to find ways for my wife and I to eat the same meals, but she doesn't like any of the substitutions I've tried so far to make our meals diet-compliant. If it's not the taste, it's the texture. While I eat most vegetables and greens if they are fresh and not too mature, my wife only likes the high calorie ones I'm not supposed to eat cooked- potatoes, corn, carrots, beets, pumpkin, and peas. So I'm making two meals, and she was never much for left-overs. I always ate those. I guess I'll just have to learn to cook like a chef, plate by plate, but simultaneously.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Spacy on July 09, 2018, 10:22:25 PM

My addiction has come back with a ferocity this summer.

30 odd years ago, I was in the Peace Corps living in Ecuador.  Couldn't drink the water without boiling it first - and that tasted terribly funny, was expensive & time consuming (natural gas tanks to run the stove).  I started drinking Coke, Fanta & Sprite.  Within 6 months I was up to drinking 3-4 liters of soda per day.  I also was very high metabolism, and I weighted between 145-150 lbs the entire time.

Get back to USA, get a few years older, keep the same drinking habits even with water I could drink... next thing I know I am 27, have a crap ton of cavities, and non of the pants fit.... by the time I was 27.5, I went from 150 lbs to 220 lbs.  By the time I was 28, I was passing 300 lbs.  Tried cold turkey - was great at home, but as I was single and I am not a drinker (1 beer per month), and all my friend we bar hopping, I always ended up drinking cokes.  But, I did so kinda smart, just at those time.  Occasionally as a desert for myself (and very much used as a desert / special treat).  Went to a Dr., got on a diet and exercise plan.... but after eating frigging rabbit food for years and watching all the junk I ate, and exercised as much as I could (pins in knees), I had my weight settle in a 280-290, depending upon season. 

About 12 years ago now, I felt my metabolism change, again.  I dropped in 3 months from 285 to about 190.  I was scarred of cancer and all sorts of other crap.  This was right at the height of the housing crash - 2007 - when my stress went though the roof and I went through unemployment and damn near lost the house that I purchased 1 year earlier.  Found a new, good Dr., did a ton of blood work, and basically he came back with start eating a lot more protein.  As cheeseburger is my favorite ever, wasn't hard to do.  3 months later I was back up to 280, which is still too much, but better than where I was going.

I have been working to find a balance between cheeseburger and rabbit food ever since.  Then, about 2 years ago I think I found the right balance that worked for me.  I was down to about 225, steadily loosing but not loosing muscle mass, doing it healthy, little here, little there - then something hit me around x-mas.  About the time I got into the new house (and all sorts of other, minor medical things that are small individually, but add up quick), and was getting hell at work due to Mgmt having its head stuck up its backside and being clueless about the day to day realities we faced in the building; which disrupted all the habits I had carefully made for myself.  It dawned on me that I was no longer treating a coke as a special treat, but was using it to quench thirst... which it doesn't really do b/c of all the sugar.  In May, I realized I was going through a 12 pack of cans in a day.  1 large drink on the way into work for the caffeine to get going.  Another refill at lunch to eat the crap available.  Another on the way home from work.  Did the math - that was equivalent to 10 cans right there.  1 actual can with dinner while I cooked, and another while I ate and did whatever in the evening.  Rinse & repeat. 

So, back to the grind - getting myself back in order.  First key is always just being aware of it. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 10, 2018, 02:31:52 AM

Quote from: Spacy on July 09, 2018, 10:22:25 PM

So, back to the grind - getting myself back in order.  First key is always just being aware of it.

Isn't it though? That's true of all kinds of things- speech, breathing, balance, body odor, being a jerk...

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 16, 2018, 05:33:32 AM

"Tomorrow will complete 4 months on my diet. I've lost about 49.5 pounds so far, I expect 50 at tomorrow's weigh-in. I've been adding exercise, but I haven't re-attempted sit-ups yet, maybe it's time to try again. I'm trying to stretch before walking a mile and 3/4ths every day.

I've started doing a few push-ups, adding one more each day. I guess my back and what-not is better. If it reaches a point where I can't do them all, I'll simply split it into two sessions. I may reach a point where I need to stop because of my joints. We'll see. I was at one push-up per year of age each day, back about the time I was married, but it overtaxed my elbow, so I quit. Whenever I go to the basement, I've also been doing some exercises with a boat anchor in each hand. They're not big, 17lbs-ish each. I'm surprised how often I make the trip- our freezers are down there, and so is the clothes line, for pants, mostly."

Since I wrote this it got interesting. I crossed the fifty pounds lost barrier, as expected. Then I went out to eat Hibachi to celebrate. Broke the rules with a fru-fru drink.  I don't think that's a big deal considering it's the first time I broke the alcohol rules. I stuck to the rules about which foods I ate, but the problem was the salt. I absorbed water and gained a few pounds. Also, I had some beef broth last week, again a salt problem. Today I am back at a new low of 228.4 lbs.

There was another issue, lower back pain and stiffness, some of the worst continuous back pain of my life without an injury. Apparently the push-ups and weights were too much too soon, but at least my arm joints weren't the limiting factor. I had to stop the arm exercises, apply biofreeze a couple times a day, schedule a massage  and use the Aleve Direct Therapy TENS device frequently. I'm still walking, but only one mile half of the days, it's pretty hot and humid for my dog.

I'm planning to get back to normal walking distances this week, and try a little yard work again. If that goes okay, I'll start the arm exercises again from scratch the following week.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on July 16, 2018, 03:09:08 PM

I don’t have numbers. 

I’ve kinda plateaued a bit judging from pants and some struggling on the soda front. 

But I just cut my pants.  This puts me in a dilemma.  I’d hoped to make it to Black Friday as usual before buying new ones.

So. Pats wearing at start of diet are hilariously oversized now.  Nearly clown levels. Would need suspenders. Present pants are simply 2 sizes smaller same cut. They fit great right out of the wash but get loose by end of day.  Cut, not going to work anymore. My only other pair that “fits” is a size even smaller and different cut.  I can squeeze in out of the wash but they are tight but not crushing by days end. 

The goal was to be in that smaller size by thanksgiving.  Now I don’t know whether to suffer with the tight pants hoping to have them fit later or buy another of these hoping they won’t. 

Knees are noticing the weight loss. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on July 16, 2018, 04:42:25 PM

If you buy a set that fits Now, even if you do reduce to the smaller size in the anticipated time frame later, it does not mean that there might not be some slight gains at a later date (not a much as to put you back into the "clown" sizes again) that might need this middle size again for a while.  Something to consider...

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: ColdWizard on July 23, 2018, 10:24:15 PM

Dropped 8 more pounds. Not eating healthier, just avoiding the binges and the keeping the treats smaller.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 24, 2018, 12:08:00 AM

Quote from: ColdWizard on July 23, 2018, 10:24:15 PM

Dropped 8 more pounds. Not eating healthier, just avoiding the binges and the keeping the treats smaller.

Good job! It adds up. Or I guess I should say subtracts.

Me, I'm down to 227lbs. I'm increasing the daily walk to 2&1/2 miles when the sun isn't too oppressive.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: ColdWizard on July 24, 2018, 04:18:53 PM

Thanks. I need to add more exercise but I'll concentrate on getting the eating to be more habitual first.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 29, 2018, 08:25:31 PM

It's been a good week for me. 223.9 lbs. Losing another 3 pounds would break the BMI obesity barrier. I think that's my new goal for my birthday next month. Still no wrinkles/loose skin.

What's more exciting is that while my wife is still ridiculing some of my food and the dietary rules/theory that I follow ( teasing, really), we're finding common ground. Japanese sweet potatoes. Popped sorghum. We both like them. She researched it and determined that it was best made in an air popper, that there was special sorghum for popping, and ordered some. While ordering me some Quest meal replacement bars for me she discovered some high protein chips ( 20 g ) they  made from whey powder, which she likes. She normally has protein challenges.

 There were other examples this week of her cooperating with my program. I'm not sure why. Maybe she thought I'd try to make her follow it, or that I would give up, or that the diet would stall out or fail after 6 or 8 weeks as most do. Or maybe it's simply that we finally found food we both like that follows the program. It feels great to be working like a team again, rather than my diet is an inconvenience to her. Did I mention it's been a good week?

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Spacy on August 01, 2018, 03:22:04 PM

Good week is a good thing.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on August 01, 2018, 10:40:37 PM

Someone outside my household commented on the weight loss today.  So, I guess it's more noticeable than I think. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 01, 2018, 11:26:04 PM

That's one of those human oddities. There normally seems to be a lag in self-image, whether gaining or losing weight, or even getting a hairstyle change. We think of ourselves as we have been. Well, maybe it's not that odd. Maybe the brain simply has a memory cache.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 11, 2018, 01:28:19 AM

My wife has been bragging about me and my weight loss to her friends. That is pretty nice, it's been many years since I can remember her bragging about me for anything other than my cooking & food processing.  We celebrated my birthday last night since I'll be helping my parents on the actual date rather than being home with her. I had the only dessert I can remember since I started the diet. I'm still losing a little, but I was stuck for a while. A lot of my clothes are going from the laundry to a box rather than back in the dresser and closet because they are too big. I wanted to put off buying new ones for a while, but the time is approaching. Yesterday I noticed that a pair of pants I bought in June could be pulled on while zipped and buttoned, and then pinch off and fold over an inch of excess waist band.

Since the re-boot on the push-ups I haven't had the back trouble. I'm only doing three a day, but it's way easier now. My trunk must be stronger. The anchor/weight lifting is more likely to be a back issue. I can feel the pull. Maybe I'll have to buty some real ones.

My books say that this is the hardest time of the year to lose weight, because our biology knows that it's late summer and time to put on the pounds in preparation for winter, not take them off. Oh well, If I don't break the obesity barrier by my actual birthday, I'll try for Labor Day.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on August 11, 2018, 02:36:01 AM

As you will be helping your parents at the time, I figure that you won't be online then, either, so...

:birthday:

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 12, 2018, 04:56:05 AM

Thanks! Probably online less.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on August 12, 2018, 08:00:16 AM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on August 11, 2018, 01:28:19 AM

My books say that this is the hardest time of the year to lose weight, because our biology knows that it's late summer and time to put on the pounds in preparation for winter, not take them off.

You don't have to tell me! Gained a couple the last few weeks. It was too hot outdoors to do anything remotely excersising though.

And happy birthday. How young do you feel? :)

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2018, 10:16:36 PM

About a week on a multivitamin now, and feeling a lot better.  The radical changes in diet had been playing havoc on energy levels and mood all year, I think. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 18, 2018, 04:19:47 AM

Quote from: Geo on August 12, 2018, 08:00:16 AM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on August 11, 2018, 01:28:19 AM

My books say that this is the hardest time of the year to lose weight, because our biology knows that it's late summer and time to put on the pounds in preparation for winter, not take them off.

You don't have to tell me! Gained a couple the last few weeks. It was too hot outdoors to do anything remotely excersising though.

And happy birthday. How young do you feel? :)

     Thanks! I'll be 59 in a few days. It seems I've been turning back the clock this year. I have been free of the spinal pain, and other joints are much better.  I feel about 50 again.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Spacy on August 23, 2018, 11:14:23 PM

Very cool

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on August 24, 2018, 04:07:11 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on August 18, 2018, 04:19:47 AM

Thanks! I'll be 59 in a few days. It seems I've been turning back the clock this year. I have been free of the spinal pain, and other joints are much better.  I feel about 50 again.

Okay, close but no cigar!
(I'm still on the 7x7 page)

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 30, 2018, 04:05:29 PM

223.0 on my last weigh in. So nearly stagnant, didn't make my goal. On the other hand, it is a new low, and there have been dietary and exercise exceptions due to travel, hanging out in the skilled nursing facility, and celebrating my birthday. So it still a win. It te // battery failure, next day// On a hunch I weighed in again this morning because I noticed that I was a little smaller while trying to get comfortable in bed. 220.5. BMI 29.9! I am no longer obese, merely overweight. I only care about the Body Mass Index because that's how my doctor judges me. My new goal is 200 by year's end. That's more than a pound per week, so it's a little ambitious, but it should be a better season for weight loss, and it's a lot easier for me to be active now.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on August 30, 2018, 07:28:02 PM

Taking a page from [Sleezebag], it would seem...  ;)

Good to here, is good to have progress even when your in a position to not expect it...

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: ColdWizard on August 30, 2018, 11:37:50 PM

Dropped only 1.7 pounds in the last 5 weeks. Still a downward trend despite several setbacks.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 31, 2018, 01:31:04 AM

If it were easy, everybody would do it. Well, maybe they do... BUT the important thing is that you haven't given up!

Quote from: ColdWizard on August 30, 2018, 11:37:50 PM

Dropped only 1.7 pounds in the last 5 weeks. Still a downward trend despite several setbacks.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: ColdWizard on August 31, 2018, 02:28:34 AM

Working in some gym time would be useful to counteract the shouldn't-have-eaten-that times. Perhaps even as a deterrent to the behavior, since my preferred uncrowded late night gym time conflicts with my current asleep before midnight sleep pattern.

I just need to keep focusing on it's a process and there's no cheat code.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 24, 2018, 01:04:05 AM

I've gained about 5 pounds. Some of that might be fluid, but I've definitely gained.   I'm away from home and doing more driving than exercising. But, if I'm celebrating the successes, I might as well admit the mistakes. I think the real issue here is that I'm still consuming a lot of food. Sure, I'm still eating healthier, but every pound I lose reduces my calorie requirements. I haven't been shrinking my consumption with the size of my body. I could be cutting the size of my protein servings or nut snacks now, as examples. I could have a meatless day. I could simply skip some meals when I'm not hungry. I could go to bed earlier to convince my body that it's winter, and time to use calories as needed rather than store them.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on September 24, 2018, 07:06:49 PM

I similarly hit a road bump.  Almost entirely related to a soda binge brought on by some stressers.  To be perfectly blunt, those stressers are likely to get worse before better. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 03, 2018, 02:58:04 AM

Home again, and back on my "official" scale. A new low of 219.0 lbs. So essentially, my net loss for September was a mere 1.5 pounds, less than the roughly 2 and a half pounds/ week I've been doing in the course of the diet. BUT, I am back on track, and I'm excited. I  had a blood draw for lab work today, my physical follows in a week. I'll be able to walk more here at home, and I have more food options. According to the theory behind my diet, which is based upon convincing the body that it is time to use fat, rather than store it, it should be increasingly easier to do this in the fall and winter, and most difficult in late summer. So, I'm excited.


I hope to be able to drop the statin I'm taking on a trial basis, and I have another appointment soon to find out if I still need the CPAP machine. More importantly, I feel different every time I move. Free is the word that comes to mind. That's all for now.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on October 03, 2018, 03:40:54 AM

Fantastic

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 08, 2018, 05:16:55 PM

Well, last week was a wedding, with a series of events that mostly involved food. Mostly not diet food and drink, either.  So I tried to follow the "Do the best you can with what you've got" diet rule. Not a lot of time to go walking. I'm at 216.4 right now. Hopefully I'll official break the BMI obesity barrier with a fully clothed weigh-in tomorrow. My overall cholesterol is down about 10 points, and my triglycerides are down from 110 to 51. Blood pressure was 122/66 when I donated blood last week. Not sure about that number, but I'll get another reading tomorrow with my physical. 


On the qualitative side of things, I think I lost my side belly, so I wouldn't call it a spare tire anymore, just a gut. Also, I had to find a suit to wear for the wedding. Most of the ones in my closet were too big. One was too small. The one I  wore was the one I wore to my own wedding almost 15 years ago. The difference being that it was a little snug with all of the buttons fastened ( So I left an extra one undone) and I didn't need a belt or suspenders to keep my pants up. That means a couple things- 1) the pants are tighter than when I bought them, 2) I apparently have a waist again if my hips can hold up my pants.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on October 08, 2018, 07:16:41 PM

Sounds good. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 09, 2018, 03:50:25 PM

Blood pressure was 112/68 today. I think that is accurate.  My doctor was impressed with all of my test numbers and my weight loss, even if I wasn't. Not enough to ,say, ditch the statin medication, but impressed all of the same. Sugar is no longer a health issue for me.


The exception is the prostate test. My numbers are rising rapidly to meet the age curve, and since my grandfather had surgery around age 65, I'm getting a urology appointment.


Aging is one giant game of wack-a- mole.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 14, 2018, 07:56:21 PM

The doctor's visit weigh-in was done with shoes on this time ( for sanitary purposes, I was told), so no official breaking of the obesity barrier.


Today I was 215.3, a new low.  It was a weird week. I caught the family cold, suspended my exercise program, forced a lot of fluids including salty broths and sweet teas. Gained weight, but it seems to have been water because it left as I recovered from the cold and got back to routine.


I'm thinking about curtailing dairy in my diet. According to this diet theory, dairy helps a body grow fast. Fine when you're a kid or an aspiring teen athelete, when your'e a  middle aged guy with a gut or prostate or tumor, not so much. More on that later if and when I do. On the other hand, taking off excess weight is supposed to help with prostate issues, so that should be working in my favor.


This week I should be doing my own grocery shopping, rather than have my wife do it, who isn't on a diet and hasn't read up on it. Last week my wife went shopping after taking her mom to the doctor. It's not that the stuff she picked up was wrong, but she managed to fill the refrigerator and sort of precluded me from supplemental shopping. That's one thing about this diet, stuff tends to be fresh or refrigerated. Not so much in the way of pantry stores, although the meat/seafood can be canned or frozen.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 16, 2018, 04:41:34 AM

Today I saw the physician's assistant regarding my CPAP machine. In short I no longer need it, thanks to my weight loss. It's only needs to operate at the lower end of it's air pressure/volume range, and the episodes are 60% below the sleep apnea threshold. In other words, I'm considered normal, and it may have been this way most of my life. My wife says I no longer snore, even without it, and that she has trouble telling if the CPAP is on because it's much quieter now. I realized while filling out the forms that I rarely fall asleep unintentionally during the day any more, regardless of circumstances. I also awake refreshed now.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Lorizael on October 17, 2018, 08:24:09 PM

Quote from: Lorizael on June 14, 2018, 03:49:15 AM

I'm at just over 200 lbs, which is about 10 lbs less than my heaviest. I need to lose probably 20 lbs. Easiest way would be to cut down on mountain dew. I also need to lay off the snacks/candy and the muffin+juice for breakfast.

Oh well I guess now I need to lose about 30 lbs.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 17, 2018, 09:45:36 PM

Quote from: Lorizael on October 17, 2018, 08:24:09 PM

Quote from: Lorizael on June 14, 2018, 03:49:15 AM

I'm at just over 200 lbs, which is about 10 lbs less than my heaviest. I need to lose probably 20 lbs. Easiest way would be to cut down on mountain dew. I also need to lay off the snacks/candy and the muffin+juice for breakfast.

Oh well I guess now I need to lose about 30 lbs.

I once had a boss who used to say "The best time to do something is now." That's not my point. According to the theory of my diet ( the original book is heavily footnoted ), the best time to diet is in the shortening day lengths. Whether winter is a cold season or a dry season, the result is food scarcity, so it's the easiest time to convince your body to draw upon fat stores, rather than add to them in preparation for winter. But, as it happens, the best time to diet is now, rather than wait for a New Year's resolution after the days are already lengthening and your body thinks that the end of winter is in sight.


Good Luck!

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 19, 2018, 01:15:07 AM

Now that I think about it, I still need to lose 35.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 21, 2018, 09:46:24 PM

Up about half a pound. I'm pretty sure that I'm over-salted again, based on my inner ear. I'll have to drink more fluids and flush it out. I'm also pretty sure I'm still losing fat, even though the weather was unfit for walking for a few days.

On the qualitative side I went through a drawer of mostly belts and suspenders. The suspenders are adjustable. Several of my belts are web, or else have holes the whole length, so they'll always fit. Four were too long to fit without adding holes, and if I did they'd look kind of silly, or they had a more complicated system, and were out of adjustment. Only two of my belts are still too small for me to wear.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Lorizael on October 22, 2018, 02:31:40 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on October 21, 2018, 09:46:24 PM

I'm pretty sure that I'm over-salted again, based on my inner ear.

A friend of mine who's a chef says you can never over-salt.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 22, 2018, 07:30:17 PM

Quote from: Lorizael on October 22, 2018, 02:31:40 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on October 21, 2018, 09:46:24 PM

I'm pretty sure that I'm over-salted again, based on my inner ear.

A friend of mine who's a chef says you can never over-salt.

My wife is a salt fiend. She carries the stuff in her purse so that she will always have enough. My blood tests are in the slight salt deficiency range. That's where my nerves function most normally. I usually cook without salt, and never add it to my plate.  We dine out frequently. There's much to be said in favor of salt. It's a seasoning, a preservative, a thickener, a chemical ingredient in the baking process, and it's inexpensive. For those reasons you can hardly find a processed food without it. My wife and I have a running joke. We'll say that the chef must be a smoker. That means that he couldn't taste the extra salt.


I've read stuff that says low sodium for heart health is BS. That is as may be, but my inner ear nerve/fluid issues respond to sodium/potassium balance. My taste for salt has become fairly acute, but I can't judge salt content in potatoes and pasta for example. Fortunately, they aren't on the diet.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on October 23, 2018, 07:12:37 AM

Quote from: Lorizael on October 22, 2018, 02:31:40 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on October 21, 2018, 09:46:24 PM

I'm pretty sure that I'm over-salted again, based on my inner ear.

A friend of mine who's a chef says you can never over-salt.

I beg to differ...

edited to add the quote as I messed Rusty's follow-on post

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on October 23, 2018, 11:28:46 AM

Quote from: E_T on October 23, 2018, 07:12:37 AM

I beg to differ...

Seconded...

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on October 23, 2018, 04:13:16 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on October 22, 2018, 07:30:17 PM

Quote from: Lorizael on October 22, 2018, 02:31:40 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on October 21, 2018, 09:46:24 PM

I'm pretty sure that I'm over-salted again, based on my inner ear.

A friend of mine who's a chef says you can never over-salt.

My wife is a salt fiend. She carries the stuff in her purse so that she will always have enough. My blood tests are in the slight salt deficiency range. That's where my nerves function most normally. I usually cook without salt, and never add it to my plate.  We dine out frequently. There's much to be said in favor of salt. It's a seasoning, a preservative, a thickener, a chemical ingredient in the baking process, and it's inexpensive. For those reasons you can hardly find a processed food without it. My wife and I have a running joke. We'll say that the chef must be a smoker. That means that he couldn't taste the extra salt.


I've read stuff that says low sodium for heart health is BS. That is as may be, but my inner ear nerve/fluid issues respond to sodium/potassium balance. My taste for salt has become fairly acute, but I can't judge salt content in potatoes and pasta for example. Fortunately, they aren't on the diet.

I have always been a firm believer that cooking with small amounts of salt (as compared to no salt at all) does not really present a danger for the low/no salt people and adds additional flavor to the item (instead of being bland).  Comparatively, if it was cooked with no salt, you need to add a much larger quantity to your portion to make up for it (much more than would have been used in the entire dish from the start).

Thing is to find the right balance of low amounts at time of cooking so that it satisfies the need (for yourself), keeps your balance down (from not having too much) and hopefully has your wife using less when she does add to it.
Also, isn't Sea Salt supposed to be good for some of the balance issues?

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 23, 2018, 06:19:23 PM

Quote from: E_T on October 23, 2018, 04:13:16 PM

Thing is to find the right balance of low amounts at time of cooking so that it satisfies the need (for yourself), keeps your balance down (from not having too much) and hopefully has your wife using less when she does add to it.
Also, isn't Sea Salt supposed to be good for some of the balance issues?

Sea salt normally has more minerals, and Magnesium is a critical element for the nerves so there's probably a benefit. I take a Magnesium supplement. In my case, part of the reason I became over-salted this time is that I found some seaweed labeled at 40mg. of sodium. Great! I like the taste of seaweed, it's a nice way to change up the greens, and seaweed has a lot of omega3 fats, which fight inflammation in the joints, etc. Too good to be true! The Mrs. found some comments on line. People suspect that this particular seaweed had 40mg of ADDED SALT, or maybe it was a typo of 400.

After forcing my self to drink all day yesterday and getting up countless times to pee last night, I'm finally flushed out.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on October 24, 2018, 07:24:04 PM

Maybe you can rinse the Seaweed before cooking it (to help flush the extra salt)??

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 25, 2018, 12:39:34 AM

Quote from: E_T on October 24, 2018, 07:24:04 PM

Maybe you can rinse the Seaweed before cooking it (to help flush the extra salt)??

It's dried and I just eat it like kale chips, but soaking it may be the "solution" ;-)

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on October 25, 2018, 02:43:11 AM

Ah, that explains the extra salt... Chips...

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on October 25, 2018, 10:01:29 AM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on October 23, 2018, 06:19:23 PM

After forcing my self to drink all day yesterday and getting up countless times to pee last night, I'm finally flushed out.

A gallon a day... ?  ;)

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 26, 2018, 01:58:04 AM

Quote from: Geo on October 25, 2018, 10:01:29 AM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on October 23, 2018, 06:19:23 PM

After forcing my self to drink all day yesterday and getting up countless times to pee last night, I'm finally flushed out.

A gallon a day... ?  ;)

No thanks. I was about 1/2 to 3/4ths of that.


Speaking of salt, I took another bundle of seaweed and soaked it in purified water, then draied it before I ate it. A lot like boiled spinach, only slimier. I was not enthused. Even worse, I think I feel the salt effects coming on, even though it didn't taste like it.  I guess I won't be buying any more seaweed.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on October 27, 2018, 09:55:06 AM

What did you expect? It is a seafood.

Seaweeds are definitely not my forte. The only time I tolerate them is with a mussel dish. Part of the 'sauce' so to speak.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 27, 2018, 05:48:10 PM

I did enjoy fresh seaweed before I had health issues. I thought it was worth another try to get more variety and nutrition in my greens. Optimism over skepticism.  Oh well.


I thought I was too pessimistic for that. Maybe my wife has had an influence on me.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on November 15, 2018, 07:19:24 PM

Maybe this will be my worst month. A net gain wouldn't surprise me.

I was 215 when I left for vacation in Florida for almost 2 weeks. The purpose of the trip was Disney's food and wine festival. The diet was suspended. I wasn't cooking at all, so I was getting too much salt, and the temps were about 60 degrees warmer on average.  I wasn't just drinking wine, I had a lot of fruity rum drinks, too, because they are better in Florida. While I did a lot of walking, it wasn't for the exercise, and I suspended exercising for the duration of the vacation, too.

Then again, six months of life style change has changed my habits. I found that I wanted salads, that I don't care for candy unless it's dark chocolate, that I didn't want anything sweet to drink unless it contained alcohol or was frozen. Or both, such as a Bailey's milkshake. 

I'll weigh in again on Sunday. I expect it to be well above 215, and we have Thanksgiving coming up. I intend to eat salad without dressing, turkey, gravy, and a some mashed potatoes. I'll have some sparkling wine with everybody, and take along some water. Usually I fill up on multiple servings of turkey/gravy/stuffing, and one of everything else.


On the quantitative side my blood pressure was 110/60 at the doctor's this week. I'm delighted with that, and I feel so much better.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on November 16, 2018, 07:06:21 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on November 15, 2018, 07:19:24 PM

Or both, such as a Bailey's milkshake. 

Never thought of that! Must try it for ;sci!

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on November 19, 2018, 12:42:08 AM

219.0

I was stuck on 223 lbs. for a while. My body seems to like that point. I feel like I'm losing weight again, so I think I'll pass 215 again soon, even if I don't do it this month, I think I'll be close. It's nice to be in control of the kitchen again, so I can regulate what I eat down to the salt.


I'm eassing back into the exercise.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on November 25, 2018, 06:01:03 PM

Thanksgiving wasn't exactly a low salt meal. There wasn't any salad. Besides what I planned to eat, I had Brussels sprouts, cranberry sauce, pumpkin pie and ice cream. The Romaine lettuce scare really cramped my style, too. I like Romaine. Caesar salad ( sans croutons) with chicken or shrimp or salmon or anchovies is about the only diet food I can be sure of in a restaurant. At home I like to stack two pieces of it and use it as a taco shell or sandwich bread substitute. Of course it's good for other salads alone or as mixed greens. I think they were justified to pull it from the shelves though. Not only were there cases in several states including mine, but I was just telling my wife not to buy it from our favorite grocery store any more. The Romaine there was packaged, but there was what appeared to be at least 3 pieces of soil and/or snail crap on each and every leaf all the way through each head in the package.


So, 218.0 lbs. today. I'm pleased with that. I haven't been walking or doing calisthenics since I got home, with few exceptions, but I have been busy doing stuff like closet cleaning, gutter cleaning, outdoor decorating, etc. When I restore my routine I expect to be back on track.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on December 02, 2018, 05:48:01 PM

217.8- little change, but it's consistent over a couple weigh-ins. I'll take it.


Now for the disclaimers- Exercise has been non-existent. Crappy weather for walking and the shingles shot had me feeling like I'd been kicked by a cow, so I didn't use that arm more than necessary. The Romaine ban didn't just remove it from the shelves, it got rid of mixes that contained some, curtailed restaurant salads, and had people buying the other stuff. Fortunately for me, I eat most types, including dandelion, collards, purslane, etc. But that doesn't mean it's in season. Also, I limit certain greens to once a week, because they encourage kidney stone formation. So, I wasn't following the spirit of the program, which features salads and sautéed greens.

Today's a new week in my last month of this year. Looking forward to it.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on December 09, 2018, 07:24:08 PM

Low 215s again, for the first time since late October. Still haven't resumed exercise. Well, the best time to do something is now.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on December 19, 2018, 06:14:45 PM

Only exercised once or twice, until I woke up with back pain. I suspect it's related to stacks of packages being handled in the process of Christmas prep and home smartification projects. Exercise program suspended.

I did do a one day fast thing to get my body back on track. It worked. I could tell I was liquidating fat by the excessive urination. I had to take in my belt a notch, which is about an inch and 1/4. Less chest fat, too. Now I'm in the 212s.

I'm reading a book about brain health and Alzheimer's prevention. Surprisingly, some researches nickname it "type 3 diabetes, " and the diet to fight it looks a lot like the one I'm on. I'll discus it in the book thread when I finish.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on December 28, 2018, 01:32:41 PM

Been a while since I posted anything. 

So, in October, I broke my left distal metatarsal. 

Not one to let such a small thing as a broken foot get me down, I powered through Halloween.  Going back to work after Halloween, my foot wouldn't fit in my boots, and I developed ankle, knee, and hip issues from my limping. 

Que depression, and thus soda issues. 

Despite all this, I did a 5k at Thanksgiving as I was feeling better-ish, which was a mistake, it probably set me back some, but was good to get moving at the same time.   

My foot is mostly back, I fit in my boots again, so have proper ankle support, and thus my ankle is getting better, and along with it the knee and hip. 

Though there's lots of muscle soreness now, and I can cramp the hell up if I sit for a long period and have to limp/stretch everything out, I can walk normally again, finally. 

On the clothes front, I've been wearing the clown pants, but purchased new of the 2 sizes down at black friday.  Just put them on for the first time.  Happy to report, despite struggles, I haven't lost any ground.  2 sizes smaller still fits great, but might get loose by end of the day.  Time to get back on the soda fast ans sugar reduction now the holidays have passed. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on December 28, 2018, 03:12:39 PM

good for you!!

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on December 30, 2018, 07:23:49 PM

Congrats Uno!

*****
Lingering in the low 2teens. I'm more concerned about a cold transitioning into sinus infection than losing weight, but I did take in my belt another notch. It looks like my belly is getting smaller, but body image is one of those things that tends to lag. Sort of like getting used to your appearance in the mirror after a haircut. My memory of my appearance conflicts with the new reality. I'm not sure what I really look like.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 06, 2019, 07:02:54 PM

212.6

It feels like I'm losing weight again. It looks to me like I have less belly. I need to go shopping for greens vegetables, etc. My cold has transitioned into sinus infection. We'll see if it clears up, or transitions into a chest cold. Meanwhile, I plan to resume being active. 

 I have discontinued the statin drug. I never liked the way it made me feel. Reading about it, seems it's really a drug for people who have already had one heart attack that's been over-prescribed to many. Some cholesterol is necessary for normal brain function, hormone synthesis and immunity. Statins increase the risk of Parkinson's, type 2 diabetes and consequently Alzheimer's. Doesn't seem like a good risk-benefit to me. Heart attacks aren't a thing in my family, but diabetes and Alzheimer's are.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Misanthrope on January 07, 2019, 07:36:12 PM

Quote from: Lorizael on October 22, 2018, 02:31:40 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on October 21, 2018, 09:46:24 PM

I'm pretty sure that I'm over-salted again...

A friend of mine who's a chef says you can never over-salt.

Salt can be useful, but like all things, it needs to be used with moderation. Your chef friend is probably intimately familiar with the culinary axiom, "No fat, no flavor," but that can also be a problem for balanced diets.

...speaking of....
DEF gonna have to throw in with this.  Having just finished another monthly health-check call re: weight, I'm not catastrophic, but could be a lot better.

Currently: ~220Lb
Goal: 175Lb

Current focus: Make exercise more regular and more strenuous, swapping hi-fat foods for fruit & veggies... also, I need to be more of a jerk about NOT quietly cleaning up after everyone else out of compulsion.

Biggest challenge: Everyone else at home.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 20, 2019, 07:01:21 PM

211.6 Today.

I've been as low as 211.1, but I seem locked in the 211-213 range. My wife has been giving me a hard time about the tail on my belt being too long, so I took a couple inches off of it. Today I am wearing a favorite shirt, which is size L. It doesn't fit well, but it isn't snug or in danger of ripping, either. I decided to try it on because I know that self-image lags. ( example - you get a severe haircut and get startled when you see yourself in the mirror.)  I still see myself as fat, although the fat is only on my back and belly now. For that matter, my belly is starting to recover it's shape. I have been exercising and shoveling snow.


On the other hand, with winter here, I have  hunger for calories. We'll see how this plays out.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on January 20, 2019, 08:14:00 PM

I always loose a few pounds in winter due to water loss (my wrist get's smaller as a sign) partly from lower humidity.  But once it warms back up (later spring) and the overall humidity goes back up, I gain it back (wrist gets thicker - prompting me to have to use a watchband with a velcro strap).

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 27, 2019, 02:01:13 AM

Status- SAME. Still stuck in the 211-213.something range. With the breakout of the polar vortex, and temps venturing in and out of the negative double digits, I find myself craving calories. Not always eating them, but indulging now and then with more servings and so forth.


So, I know that the answer is to start re-reading the diet books and to resume journaling. That way I'll be keeping track, and what's the saying? "That which is measured improves, and that which is measured and reported improves faster"? Those two steps will make me conscious of what I am doing. Just reading the introduction has caused things to pop into my head that I've been neglecting.


Doing what I've been doing for the last 11 months, and hearing all of the Keto discussions these days, I am struck by the similarities between diets and religions. Like a religion, to get the benefits from the diet, you need to have faith and commitment to it. Otherwise, you'll drop out when you're making sacrifices for apparently nothing. Like a religion, your self-imposed limitations can make you less fun, and the urge to share your good news with others, particularly those you care about can make you tedious. Or for that matter, argumentative when it comes to discussing competing methods. The difference is whether the heresy jeopardizes a life or an afterlife.  Unless and until somebody is ready to make a lifestyle and philosophical change, it's a waste of everybody's time talking about the details.


My current answer to the polite question is that I eat mostly greens, seafood, and cruciferous vegetables. Next to no grains, sweets and fruits.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 03, 2019, 04:28:47 AM

I am on track again, I've consistently been in the low 210.s. So I feel confident in declaring today's 210.1, which makes me overweight with a Body Mass Index of 28.5. I've been feeling great, out working in the snow more than working out. Things I'd forgotten as I re-read the first book-

* By now I should have reduced my protein portions by about half. If I'm 70 pounds lighter, I need 700 fewer calories a day.

* I thought I could only eat green bananas, which are sort of acidic, but the answer is I can only eat bananas with green tips.

* Milk ( and other dairy ) really does "help a body grow," which is fine if you're a youngster or an athlete. If you are trying to reduce, or if you have an enlarged prostate, or a tumor... not so much.

* Suggested fish oil is 2K-6K mg daily. I was at 2, so I added another pill.

*Sleeping more results in less hunger and less eating.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on February 03, 2019, 07:43:03 AM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on February 03, 2019, 04:28:47 AM

*Sleeping more results in less hunger and less eating.

* An older person needs less sleep

Bummer. ;)

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 04, 2019, 01:28:49 AM

Quote from: Geo on February 03, 2019, 07:43:03 AM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on February 03, 2019, 04:28:47 AM

*Sleeping more results in less hunger and less eating.

* An older person needs less sleep

Bummer. ;)

Yeah. Easier said than done. Even when I make the effort, something comes up that requires my help.
On the other hand, sleeping is easier than going to the gym. ( According to the 2nd book, going to the gym doesn't result in weight loss, because it makes you hungrier. There are definite benefits for the cardiovascular system, so it can still extend your life. )

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Mart on February 04, 2019, 08:45:29 AM

Two things come to my mind.

When exercising more, I noticed, I am tired (but get enough oxygen), that often fall asleep easily, even if feeling some hunger and being without supper. Then in the morning, I eat regular breakfast, so this way avoiding additional calories.

Our diet in our present society, when food is manufactured in a way: "faster, more, faster, more, and so on" that it lacks micro- and macro- nutrients. For some time I try to get enough minerals by using sea salt, they say, you can find if the salt has some additional ones, when it tastes good. A pure, close to chemically pure, sodium chloride tastes bad. there is also other food having various minerals but little calories. The thing is, that without these elements/nutrients we feel hunger despite getting large amounts of food and thus calories.
Anyway, this is something, that was already discussed here, I think?

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 10, 2019, 02:54:23 AM

Quote from: Mart on February 04, 2019, 08:45:29 AM

Two things come to my mind.

When exercising more, I noticed, I am tired (but get enough oxygen), that often fall asleep easily, even if feeling some hunger and being without supper. Then in the morning, I eat regular breakfast, so this way avoiding additional calories.

Our diet in our present society, when food is manufactured in a way: "faster, more, faster, more, and so on" that it lacks micro- and macro- nutrients. For some time I try to get enough minerals by using sea salt, they say, you can find if the salt has some additional ones, when it tastes good. A pure, close to chemically pure, sodium chloride tastes bad. there is also other food having various minerals but little calories. The thing is, that without these elements/nutrients we feel hunger despite getting large amounts of food and thus calories.
Anyway, this is something, that was already discussed here, I think?

 Just re-read the entire thread. We discussed salt and sea salt. Your point that our processed foods lack micro nutrients is an important one. I think you are right, it prompts the body to ask for more food in an effort to compensate with volume.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 10, 2019, 06:33:29 PM

208.4 lbs. / 28.3 BMI YAY!


Further notes from re-reading the books-

Shellfish and egg yolks reduce total cholesterol.

Acid blockers hinder protein absorption. EUREKA! I used to eat more protein than anyone I knew. Growing up on a farm, I was used to a constant supply of the stuff. Married and living in the city, I was still eating as much as I wanted. My annual blood tests, and then my semi-annual tests as I developed metabolic syndrome and pre-diabetes and required closer monitoring always said protein deficient, no matter how hard I tried to eat more.  When I stopped eating grains and grain products, I no longer needed acid controllers or blockers. I wasn't protein deficient on my last blood test for the first time in several years. My dental check-ups are cavity free since I started the diet, too, presumably from cutting out the grains and sugars.

I should try spiralizing root vegetables, not squashes, as a noodle substitute.


FROM page 1 of DIET EVOLUTION

[Is this more like you? You weigh more than you did in high school. Perhaps a lot more. You pop one or more daily pills for high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, acid reflux, depression, and/or arthritis. You may be sending your dermatoligist's kids through college by having benign "skin tags" burned off your neck and armpits. While you're there, you may get treated for adult acne. If you're a woman, your hair may be thinning. Perhaps you've had some colon polyps or breast lumps removed. Am I hitting a little too close to home? If so, what if I suggested that even if you do not already  have diabetes, hypertension, heart and vascular disease, cancer, or another life-threatening disease, you've got a lot in common with people who do? ]


Well, I'm off of the acid controller and statin. Finally, after 11 months of this diet, one of my skin tags dried up and fell off. I'd been looking forward to them being re-absorbed or falling off since I read the book. Well, I guess that means the book paid for itself.  It's been a great week.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on February 10, 2019, 09:02:50 PM

Skin tags? First time I heard of that.
After checking it online, its no surprise I didn't knew what it is.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 18, 2019, 06:45:16 PM

208.0, even with suspending the rules for Valentine's Day.   I think I'm going to stop journaling again, now that I'm re-focused.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 24, 2019, 08:30:59 PM

206.4
Feeling great, consuming more extra virgin olive oil and MCT oil ( medium chain triglyceride, a sort of refined coconut oil. ) Less dairy.
Interestingly, my dog had her annual check-up, and hasn't gained any weight. That's probably a first.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Spacy on March 17, 2019, 06:34:13 PM

My diabetes has come back full force.  Time to get picky on what I eat again.  Chances are, this time it is less what I am eating, and more just my body getting older and not able to process crap the way it used to. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on March 18, 2019, 07:03:15 PM

I have recently been plagued with Sciatica on my right leg.  Walking is a chore now...

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on March 28, 2019, 05:03:07 PM

When I've checked, I'm still in the 206-208 range. I'm now walking 1&1/2 miles a day. Also doing yardwork for my Mom. I'm urinating more than I'm drinking, I look like I have less of a gut in the mirror, and my pants are getting looser. Those are all signs that I'm taking off fat, and the actual weight loss normally follows.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Lorizael on March 28, 2019, 05:19:40 PM

I've been trying to diet for about a month now, after just barely creeping into BMI "obese" territory. Got an app on my phone to track calories. Down about 6 lbs to 205 so far. Want to lose maybe 30 lbs in total. Should also start exercising.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on March 29, 2019, 02:26:32 AM

Quote from: Lorizael on March 28, 2019, 05:19:40 PM

I've been trying to diet for about a month now, after just barely creeping into BMI "obese" territory. Got an app on my phone to track calories. Down about 6 lbs to 205 so far. Want to lose maybe 30 lbs in total. Should also start exercising.

If you're losing a pound a week, you're doing well!

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on April 01, 2019, 08:18:28 PM

Well, I'm home and needed to take my belt in another notch.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on April 01, 2019, 11:16:22 PM

I just bought two new pairs of pants today.  One for Work and other for Rest of the time.  Both at a size 40 waste.  Now to see how long I can keep them in the rotation and not gain weight...  Down to ~215lbs ATM

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on April 02, 2019, 12:52:04 AM

Quote from: E_T on April 01, 2019, 11:16:22 PM

I just bought two new pairs of pants today.  One for Work and other for Rest of the time.  Both at a size 40 waste.  Now to see how long I can keep them in the rotation and not gain weight...  Down to ~215lbs ATM

Congratulations!

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on April 06, 2019, 03:24:43 PM

203.5
My wife says I need pants that fit. I'm noticing tone in my belly.

As for exercise, I'm walking a mile with the dog. Tomorrow, I'll increase the distance now that she's acclimated. I'm doing 10 pushups twice/ day. That's all on the exercise front. That said, the cool part is that I have energy for projects, so I'm not as sedentary as I used to be. Speaking of which....I'm off to do more stuff.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on April 09, 2019, 02:05:52 AM

Multiple internal gut problems.  Possibly gall bladder getting worse, but could be other things.  We've got doctors visits lined up.  I have a fairly decent risk of not surviving if they have to take the gall bladder as general anesthesia and I don't mix too well. 

I've been completely sans soda for several weeks now, down from 1 a day.  Well, not entirely true, I allow myself one a week now.  Far cry from the every meal it was. 

My knee is a constant struggle of pain still.  My ankle and foot feel better, though, and for the last couple weeks I've been taking the stairs instead of the elevator, and parking a half mile from work when it's not weathering.  The base is rather conducive to walking.  I'm averaging 300 stairs a day (only counting up).  I haven't noticed my knee getting WORSE from this activity so I'm not going to let it slow me down. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on April 09, 2019, 02:50:43 AM

Well, I hope they can figure things out quickly, and that it's safely treatable whatever it is. Good Luck!

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on April 15, 2019, 02:40:39 AM

I seem to be hanging in the 204-206 range. Had some trouble with a loose ring. My wife doesn't like me "too skinny."  I'm starting to think I'll be happy at 200lbs., and adjust my eating to maintain that weight when I reach it. I feel great!

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on April 16, 2019, 03:37:41 PM

So, the doctor visit was yesterday.  The paperwork didn't tell me to fast, so I've got to go back in Saturday for my lab work, but he doesn't expect to find anything.  Still makes it more wait and see. 

I guess a side effect of the crap they gave me when I hit the ER last year was to utterly nuke all the bacteria in my guts, so some amount of time to get back to normal is expected, so he's not concerned with my symptoms there. 

The good news is my blood pressure is surprisingly good for someone of my age/weight.  (it was just a tiny bit high on the top number, but considering my temperment in hospitals he's not even worried about that)
I'm down 10 lbs since the ER visit, which is simultaneously better than I had feared and nowhere near as good as I hoped. 
The knee is most likely arthritis and I'm going to have to learn to deal with it.  He wants me to drug it up for a week to see if it helps, which I haven't had a painkiller since the ER visit.  I'm going to wait till after the labs. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on May 03, 2019, 03:39:45 AM

As expected, nothing was found in my blood work.  I'm fine, who knows what's wrong with my gut...

So, when I started having a new symptom, I was able to riddle out my problem for the last 10 months or so. 

I'm allergic to the new toothpaste we switched to around the same time.  And gut issues are one manifestation.  When my mouth started feeling funky after brushing my teeth, I had a hunch, and switched back to the old toothpaste. 

A week on the old toothpaste, and both the mouth and gut issues are gone. 

So...that's a thing I didn't even think was possible... 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 03, 2019, 06:07:23 AM

Quote from: Unorthodox on May 03, 2019, 03:39:45 AM

As expected, nothing was found in my blood work.  I'm fine, who knows what's wrong with my gut...

So, when I started having a new symptom, I was able to riddle out my problem for the last 10 months or so. 

I'm allergic to the new toothpaste we switched to around the same time.  And gut issues are one manifestation.  When my mouth started feeling funky after brushing my teeth, I had a hunch, and switched back to the old toothpaste. 

A week on the old toothpaste, and both the mouth and gut issues are gone. 

So...that's a thing I didn't even think was possible...

Yeah, according to Dr. Gundry, that's a thing. Anti-bacterials in toothpastes are bad for the friendly bugs in your mouth and in your gut. Get rid of them, and the bad bugs expand. I think tri-chlorosan or something like that was a particular problem. He suggests making toothpaste from coconut oil, baking soda, and mint extract. It's worked well for me, but I'm not consuming sugars and grains any more.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 03, 2019, 02:45:32 PM

We have fewer genes than corn plants. We have outsourced a lot of biochemistry to our gut bugs. Consider it proof of evolution or proof that God made man from soil. Anyway, what happens in the mouth affects digestion "downstream" and which gut bugs thrive. I saw this article from Cornell today.
https://phys.org/news/2019-05-reveals-link-starch-digestion-gene.html?fbclid=IwAR2jxp2xLA0rXbPby4gkTXq4Z-8RuJwlMMEUIh4BXl0IQMA1tUFvgM9ODSc

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on May 03, 2019, 08:47:56 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on May 03, 2019, 02:45:32 PM

Consider it proof of evolution or proof that God made man from soil.

It must be the planet's best biochemist. :P

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on May 10, 2019, 05:09:56 AM

One of the possible (contributing) causes for large (no pun intended) groups of obese people in the US is from the types and levels of bacteria in the gut.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 19, 2019, 08:09:25 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on April 06, 2019, 03:24:43 PM

203.5
My wife says I need pants that fit. I'm noticing tone in my belly.

As for exercise, I'm walking a mile with the dog. Tomorrow, I'll increase the distance now that she's acclimated. I'm doing 10 pushups twice/ day. That's all on the exercise front. That said, the cool part is that I have energy for projects, so I'm not as sedentary as I used to be. Speaking of which....I'm off to do more stuff.

This post from April 6th describes my status  pretty well. 203.8 today, looking more toned, limiting my walks now that I'm home again on account of the dog and the thunderstorms we're having ( rather than my condition and energy levels ), and getting stuff done. 

 I finally ordered my infrared sauna this week. I'm not really expecting weight loss from it, although it might help. More likely it will help shed some of the metals/toxins released from my blubber cells with all of the weight loss, but I see that as more of step that could be accomplished in a spa or health club, rather than an ongoing process, and not really justification that so many manufacturers use as a selling point.  I am expecting some pain relief and longevity benefits. Heat has always helped my pain. http://vitalhealthsaunas.com/premier-one-full-spectrum/ (http://vitalhealthsaunas.com/premier-one-full-spectrum/)  Essentially, we're value shoppers. Simple hemlock works because it's durable under dry heat and it's going in the basement, which is primarily a storage area. This model conforms to European electromagnetic radiation standards, and doesn't have the toxic outgassing common to Chinese built woods, varnishes, glues, etc.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 27, 2019, 02:39:24 AM

I'm thinking that I'd like to drop my weight to the next notch, which I'm guessing will be in the 198-199 area, and let it there.
I'll see if I can manage it before I go fishing.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on May 28, 2019, 12:23:06 AM

I'm hovering around 218.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on May 28, 2019, 04:26:36 AM

Got me a working scale.  I'm down another 5 lbs since the doctors' visit, though will probably go back up a bit after a real stressful week. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Trench Dog on May 28, 2019, 11:23:14 AM

I'm actually in a position where I should gain a bit of weight, healthily mind. Always been lean and I know its not merely an age thing, in my mid twenties at this point and no matter how much I may eat it can be difficult for me to gain weight and keep it. It's made bulking up for strength related reasons hard.

Any tips you folks got? I know the whole "eat more than daily caloric intake" and all that but my metabolism just seems super high.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on May 28, 2019, 06:18:48 PM

Lot of good stuff in the early pages of this thread, check them out...

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 28, 2019, 09:38:18 PM

Quote from: Trench Dog on May 28, 2019, 11:23:14 AM

I'm actually in a position where I should gain a bit of weight, healthily mind. Always been lean and I know its not merely an age thing, in my mid twenties at this point and no matter how much I may eat it can be difficult for me to gain weight and keep it. It's made bulking up for strength related reasons hard.

Any tips you folks got? I know the whole "eat more than daily caloric intake" and all that but my metabolism just seems super high.

Welcome to Recreation Commons. Well, maybe some questions first. Do you have health insurance and do you get an annual check-up with bloodwork? I ask because sometimes there can be thyroid issues, or early stages of diabetes, or an auto-immune /irritable bowel syndrome that cause people to lose weight. Or various yeast/parasites.

Of course the easiest and funnest way to gain weight is the gladiator's method- have beer with your meals.

I might add that dairy consumption is probably the answer you're looking for. It's designed to make a calf grow big and fast... hormones, protein, fat and sugar all combined.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Trench Dog on May 28, 2019, 10:20:54 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on May 28, 2019, 09:38:18 PM

Welcome to Recreation Commons. Well, maybe some questions first. Do you have health insurance and do you get an annual check-up with bloodwork? I ask because sometimes there can be thyroid issues, or early stages of diabetes, or an auto-immune /irritable bowel syndrome that cause people to lose weight. Or various yeast/parasites.

Of course the easiest and funnest way to gain weight is the gladiator's method- have beer with your meals.

I might add that dairy consumption is probably the answer you're looking for. It's designed to make a calf grow big and fast... hormones, protein, fat and sugar all combined.

Thanks for the welcome!

I live in Canada so basic healthcare is covered.

I do not have any other health insurance than that though.

I do drink plenty of milk, I stopped drinking alcohol a while back because too much killed my guts but I can probably start drinking beer, just avoid the heavy stuff.

I do not have regular bloodwork done but my last checkups said I was healthy, and that was about last winter.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 28, 2019, 11:19:39 PM

Well, cheese works, too.
I'm not going to criticize Canadian healthcare.
If you had gut issues before, maybe you could try probiotics ( beneficial bacteria) and pre-biotics ( types of fiber that feed them ) to re-establish a balance. It's possible that you lost some strains of beneficial bacteria due to a round of anti-biotics or acid controllers or something, and aren't able to digest and absorb well enough to gain weight.

Fruit signals the body to fatten up for the winter, so you could try that.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Trench Dog on June 01, 2019, 01:20:24 AM

Will look into that; I definitely do need to eat more fruits and cheese in general. Fruits especially.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on June 01, 2019, 07:12:48 PM

I know this was a problem in the 30's and 40's and led to the development of "enriched" foods (especially flour) here in the states.  A lack of amino acids, Iron, B12, and certain other elements in the wartime diet were considered the cause.  Actually quite similar to ingredients in the various bulking products currently peddled at fitness stores. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 06, 2019, 06:07:37 PM

I got some genetic testing results yesterday. Apparently I'm about 3 or 4 pounds below average for somebody of my height, age, and genetic composition. That may explain why my body is inclined to hold this weight.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on June 06, 2019, 07:36:00 PM

So, there are fat genes (or thin)?  The next Fat loss Fad to rake the people's money, Gene Therapy to loose weight...

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 06, 2019, 09:19:05 PM

Quote from: E_T on June 06, 2019, 07:36:00 PM

So, there are fat genes (or thin)?  The next Fat loss Fad to rake the people's money, Gene Therapy to loose weight...

Don't know. There's a lot of South German in the gene mix, so maybe it's fat genes. Then again, maybe it's the spaetzle and beer they favor that makes otherwise average people fat.

All Europeans are genetically inclined towards type 2 diabetes vs. bloodlines from other continents. So maybe it's an insulin resistance gene?

There' a lot to process.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on June 07, 2019, 03:58:21 AM

Officially down 10 pounds since getting the scale.  I'm within 5 pounds of the last time I had regular scale access, back in 2008. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 07, 2019, 04:56:28 AM

Quote from: Unorthodox on June 07, 2019, 03:58:21 AM

Officially down 10 pounds since getting the scale.  I'm within 5 pounds of the last time I had regular scale access, back in 2008.

Congratulations! I know it feels great to turn the clock back 10 years.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on June 07, 2019, 08:15:54 AM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on June 06, 2019, 09:19:05 PM

All Europeans are genetically inclined towards type 2 diabetes vs. bloodlines from other continents. So maybe it's an insulin resistance gene?

Meaning most Americans as well. :p

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 07, 2019, 02:07:12 PM

Quote from: Geo on June 07, 2019, 08:15:54 AM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on June 06, 2019, 09:19:05 PM

All Europeans are genetically inclined towards type 2 diabetes vs. bloodlines from other continents. So maybe it's an insulin resistance gene?

Meaning most Americans as well. :p

Yeah. Probably more so  since we eat more fast food.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 15, 2019, 03:06:02 AM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on May 27, 2019, 02:39:24 AM

I'm thinking that I'd like to drop my weight to the next notch, which I'm guessing will be in the 198-199 area, and let it there.
I'll see if I can manage it before I go fishing.

I've been spiraling to the bottom of my 203-208 weight range, but I doubt if I've broken through the barrier yet. On the other hand, I'm definitely losing lower back fat, and I'm wearing 34 pants now. I wore 32s in high school. I'm happy about that! I'm going fishing now, it's that time of year.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 02, 2019, 04:59:19 PM

Back from vacation on Saturday where I was eating with a lot of exceptions, and sitting around a lot. Weighed in today. 203.0
I'm happy. Back to buying and cooking my own food, routine, and breaking the 200 lb. barrier soon.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 02, 2019, 07:00:00 PM

That last time I saw 203 was right after the diabeetus was diagnosed - I guess it was the high blood sugar killed my appetite for six months prior.

And dangest thing, I'd been lifting weights before it got bad enough to cause a little numbness in my hands, and put a stop to THAT - but I looked GREAT.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 03, 2019, 02:50:16 AM

-But incidentally, while I've been arting for the last month and change, I've lost much interest in snacking.  Momma's had ice cream in the freezer for three weeks in a row, and I ain't had any but about every other day.  I don't weigh myself -that way lies madness, if you ask me- but I imagine I'm losing slightly.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on July 17, 2019, 01:57:36 PM

I've been hovering between 213-218 for a while now.  I'm at least trying to keep things as balanced as possible.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 18, 2019, 05:59:49 PM

Haven't broken the 200lb. barrier, but I'm staying in the 200-202 range.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 29, 2019, 01:41:36 AM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on July 18, 2019, 05:59:49 PM

Haven't broken the 200lb. barrier, but I'm staying in the 200-202 range.

Okay. It's more like the 200-203 range, but that's even with dietary exceptions this week, and I'm at the bottom of the range today. I haven't been exercising as much, because my dog gets more sun and heat than she needs in the first mile. So I take her home, but I don't often resume the walk without her. I'm noticing that my stomach looks toned when I stand, although there is some overlap when I sit. I'm guessing it's more a matter of my skin hasn't shrunk to fit, rather than flab.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2019, 03:09:17 PM

While the scale itself hasn't changed much, and I gained weight on vacation (expected), my dedication to the stairs ended up paying off. 

Was able to get down to a particular beach on vacation, the trail to which was listed as being steep, difficult and 'not for the weak'.  Essentially about a mile descent followed by 3-4 floors of stairs followed by a rock scramble at the bottom.  But, it was the best place for viewing the tide pools, and I was determined I was getting down there.  (Down is infinitely harder more painful for me than up on my knee)  It took me a minute to navigate the rock scramble down, but I managed with little difficulty.  And back up just needed a couple breaks as I'm rather used to the climbs at work. 

Followed that up the next day by going on the longest hike I've been on since I was about 20.  More than twice the distance we did in Bryce canyon.  Unfortunately, it was also an out and back, which the climb UP went quite well.  The return trip back I had to take my time and tripped on some of the overgrown roots on the trail at one point.  My knee wasn't too happy with me after that, but was back to workable after a day's rest driving into Seattle. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 06, 2019, 12:47:00 AM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on May 27, 2019, 02:39:24 AM

I'm thinking that I'd like to drop my weight to the next notch, which I'm guessing will be in the 198-199 area, and let it there.
I'll see if I can manage it before I go fishing.

I think I finally managed it, frequently weighing in at 199 point something. I intend to see if I can transform some of that to muscle, but I figure this is the end point for me in terms of weight. This is where I remind everybody who is trying to lose weight that late summer is the hardest time of the year for it. As the days shorten your body plans to store fat for the approaching winter because whether winter is a cold season or a dry one, it's normally a season of food scarcity. So, don't give up hope. Count it a success if you hold steady.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 13, 2019, 06:22:47 PM

Time for an update. Today's weight is 202.9.
 I just returned from my Mom's, so it hasn't exactly been normal for 3 weeks. My dog tore her ACL and required surgery this summer, so she's not allowed to walk much, and it tortures her when I go for a walk without her, so I've done it rarely. There was plenty of yard work to be done for my Mom, hedges, shrubs, weeding, removing a dead tree, some digging, moving furniture and appliances, packing and unpacking, etc. I managed to injure my shoulder somehow , so I'm trying not to aggravate it with exercise. Also I make diet exceptions when I travel ( although I'm still pretty strict at home. I figure if you make exceptions at home where I have control over what I buy, cook, and eat, I'm not really following the diet.). I make travel diet exceptions partly to enjoy dining opportunities, partly to make meals more family friendly, and partly because of limited options on the road.

There was a funeral when I returned here. So, I think 202.9 is good, especially since I am still losing excess salt. I had a physical yesterday. The doctor frequently used the word "great," and now I'm off all prescriptions, and on once a year checkups instead of twice.

I intend to return to 200lbs. before my next trip.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Lorizael on October 13, 2019, 07:04:31 PM

When I dieted during the spring, I got down to 203 from 211. And then... I stopped. Gained it all back and a couple more pounds.

An old filling of mine recently broke due to extended decay, with the upshot being that I need a root canal. I need better dental hygiene, which starts with more regular brushing and flossing but should also include cutting out sugar. So for the last week, I've cut down to a single Mountain Dew a day at lunch and water for every other meal. This will be good for my teeth, but also my weight, and probably my health more generally because of all the caffeine and toxic sludge I won't be imbibing.

I lost about a pound this week. If I can completely quit Dew, that'd be great, but for the time being I'm gonna see if I can keep to this reduced intake.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Elok on October 13, 2019, 09:15:19 PM

Develop a taste for coffee or tea?  Heck, they make caffeinated water now.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Lorizael on October 13, 2019, 09:55:07 PM

My poorly functioning nose means I can't appreciate complex flavors, so beverages like coffee are basically just bitter. But really I should find a way to do without caffeine.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Elok on October 13, 2019, 10:17:40 PM

I don't need to diet--am probably underweight--but I try to periodically dial it back on the caffeine.  Currently at two cups of tea per day.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on October 16, 2019, 04:12:03 PM

I am at 208 at this time.  Lowest I have been in a while, as I was hovering about 10 pounds more for some time.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: ColdWizard on October 16, 2019, 05:02:29 PM

I quit caffeine about 18 months ago, primarily for the sake of my teeth (I don't appreciate hot beverages so it was soda), as I also find root canals unentertaining. I'd periodically quit before and so withdrawal was the usual bother, even with cutting back gradually. Tiredness was less of an issue than I expected. Except for lately, but that's probably because I picked up some of the weight I dropped last year and am not sleeping as well for it. I should go to the gym.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: ColdWizard on January 09, 2020, 08:26:54 PM

I am down three pounds from March 2019.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Lorizael on January 10, 2020, 03:22:23 AM

Great!

Quote from: Lorizael on October 13, 2019, 07:04:31 PM

So for the last week, I've cut down to a single Mountain Dew a day at lunch and water for every other meal.

Huh, looks like I've been able to keep this up for 3 months.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 22, 2020, 09:53:20 PM

Quote from: Lorizael on January 10, 2020, 03:22:23 AM

Great!

Quote from: Lorizael on October 13, 2019, 07:04:31 PM

So for the last week, I've cut down to a single Mountain Dew a day at lunch and water for every other meal.

Huh, looks like I've been able to keep this up for 3 months.

Keep up the good work!

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 22, 2020, 09:59:33 PM

Returned home from my travels( diet suspended)  Monday. 213 point something pounds today. I'm interested in seeing how quickly I can get back to 200 + or - 1%.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 01, 2020, 06:33:35 PM

211.8

It won't be too quickly at current activity levels. I'm not doing much beyond laundry and reading. No fresh snow to handle. It is above freezing in the afternoons, so I suppose I should be walking again. But "That which is measured improves, and that which is measured and reported improves faster." I'll return to 200.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on February 01, 2020, 07:10:51 PM

I've lost the weight I put on between Halloween and Christmas, so that's something.   

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 02, 2020, 03:02:03 AM

Quote from: Unorthodox on February 01, 2020, 07:10:51 PM

I've lost the weight I put on between Halloween and Christmas, so that's something.

It really is.

Do you think you flipped the switch from "Store fat for the winter" to "Winter is here, time to draw on my energy reserves" ?

I hope it wasn't because of too many gall bladder attacks.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on February 02, 2020, 03:40:22 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on February 02, 2020, 03:02:03 AM

Quote from: Unorthodox on February 01, 2020, 07:10:51 PM

I've lost the weight I put on between Halloween and Christmas, so that's something.

It really is.

Do you think you flipped the switch from "Store fat for the winter" to "Winter is here, time to draw on my energy reserves" ?

I hope it wasn't because of too many gall bladder attacks.

No, I think holidays plus stress related soda binge over the holidays made me gain weight.  I always gain a bit over Halloween as I am generally too busy to do dinners, so we eat out a bunch.  Then the holiday schedule is rough on most people.  But the work problems meant I was eating out at lunch specifically to avoid work as much as possible. 

Solid month of back on my eating schedule got me back in order. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 23, 2020, 07:28:15 PM

I seem to be locked into the 210-212 range.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: ColdWizard on February 28, 2020, 05:35:01 PM

While not able to maintain the two pounds a week weight loss I hit in January, I'm fairly certain I've maintained an average calorie deficit for February. Interesting that my health motivations are very strong when I'm sick with colds/flu and vanish when symptoms do.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Lorizael on February 28, 2020, 08:41:36 PM

Quote from: Lorizael on January 10, 2020, 03:22:23 AM

Great!

Quote from: Lorizael on October 13, 2019, 07:04:31 PM

So for the last week, I've cut down to a single Mountain Dew a day at lunch and water for every other meal.

Huh, looks like I've been able to keep this up for 3 months.

Just from no longer doing the Dew (as often), I'm down to ~201 as of last week.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 28, 2020, 08:44:51 PM

Congrats, Lori!

As part of the dentist's orders, I've curtailed my caffeine consumption most days to one cup of green tea.
Not happy, but I'll live.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on April 27, 2020, 03:41:31 PM

Well, I'm down 10 lbs since the stay at home orders. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 08, 2020, 03:38:41 AM

I have finally broken out of the 211-212  range- but on the high side. It looks like I need to break out the journal and get serious.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on May 09, 2020, 02:26:57 AM

Yeah!!

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 18, 2020, 06:21:31 AM

I managed to turn things around and go from 215.6 , to 211.2  for yesterday and today. Now I'll see if I can take off another 10.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on May 23, 2020, 03:23:08 AM

Well, I'm down 25 lbs since my last annual checkup and my blood pressure was actually normal rather than borderline.

The bad news is they're likely going to need to take my gallbladder. 

Oh, and my doctor left so I gotta find a new one.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on May 23, 2020, 08:32:50 AM

Quote from: Unorthodox on May 23, 2020, 03:23:08 AM

Well, I'm down 25 lbs since my last annual checkup and my blood pressure was actually normal rather than borderline.

The bad news is they're likely going to need to take my gallbladder. 

Oh, and my doctor left so I gotta find a new one.

Gallbladders are overrated anyway. Get a spleen! ;)

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Elok on May 24, 2020, 03:21:34 PM

No gallbladder?  Yikes.  I'm sorry.  Will you be able to compensate with enzyme supplements or something?

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on May 24, 2020, 07:06:53 PM

Dang, UnO, I'll be pulling for you...

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 24, 2020, 10:21:12 PM

My wife was a lot happier after having her gallbladder removed.
Good luck!

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Spacy on June 13, 2020, 03:44:43 PM

Up almost 15 lbs after stay at home for the past 100 odd days....

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 01, 2020, 01:26:31 AM

I returned home from the fishing trip with some extra weight, but it appears to have been mostly salt  & water.  I was 210.something yesterday.

So, I did make an effort not to suspend the rules while on vacation this time, but it was hard to control the salt. I didn't have time to walk the second week, but now that I'm home I'm managing. Let's see if I can get back to 200lbs. by Labor Day.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 09, 2020, 03:38:25 AM

I've been 206 point something the last couple of days.  So, the progress is real.  I had a beer and 3/4ths of a pizza to celebrate.
Tomorrow, back to the straight and narrow.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: E_T on July 09, 2020, 03:46:30 AM

Pizza, Pizza!!!

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on July 09, 2020, 01:58:29 PM

Quote from: E_T on July 09, 2020, 03:46:30 AM

Pizza, Pizza!!!

Hear, beer!!!
(Pizza goes with wine, you culinary ***tards :mad: )


I've got to put myself into the obesity club too now. 86-87 kilo's. :(

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 12, 2020, 05:29:59 PM

Well, I would agree that wine goes with pizza. I don't think there's another food that screams for red wine as much as pizza, not even a steak. According to the brewers in my city, the carbonation  is more effective at cleansing the palate from the cheese coating than the alcohol.   So, I imagine a Belgian barley wine would pair well with pizza, too.

But the real reason I drank a beer is because I was grilling the pizza. It's customary to drink a beer as you grill here. I had a pinot noir with my pizza, but I didn't mention that because my diet allows for 6 oz/ day of a dark or high altitude wine such as pinot noir or malbec. Geo, since you've trekked much of the world, which European regions do you think have the highest altitude wines?

205.5 today.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on July 13, 2020, 12:32:38 AM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on July 12, 2020, 05:29:59 PM

Geo, since you've trekked much of the world, which European regions do you think have the highest altitude wines?

I've not have done much trekking in Europe compared to the rest of the world. Kinda saving that for when I become less mobile.
But in Europe, I liked German Mosel and French Corsican wines best sofar.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on July 22, 2020, 10:57:54 PM

Down another 5 since surgery, (which I'd gained 5 the week following surgery, so down 10 from that). 

I haven't been this weight since 2009.  Working from home is really helping, I think. 

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 26, 2020, 06:41:36 PM

204.1  I'm keeping active. The trick is to not overeat to replace the calories.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on July 27, 2020, 09:43:16 AM

I was down a kilo... and after last night's pizza that's only half a kilo now. :P

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 07, 2020, 08:42:39 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on July 01, 2020, 01:26:31 AM

Let's see if I can get back to 200lbs. by Labor Day.

204.7 More active, more hungry. I'm surprised I didn't go north of 206.

Summer is the hardest time to lose weight because your body is planning to store fat for the winter. Whether winter is a cold season or a dry one, it's a time of scarcity. But now that days are growing shorter and cooler, it should be easier to get my body to draw on stored energy.  We'll see.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on September 07, 2020, 10:40:58 PM

Hovering between 83-84 these days... kilo's, that is!  :-*

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Unorthodox on November 11, 2020, 11:32:12 PM

Well, I can't tell when looking in the mirror, but I've lost enough weight the lifecast of my head is too big now and useless for making mask bases...

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 12, 2020, 12:29:18 AM

You ought to be noticing something about the fit of your britches, too...

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Geo on November 12, 2020, 02:13:24 PM

I dipped below 81 yesterday morning... and celebrated with fast food in the evening!

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on November 12, 2020, 10:06:49 PM

Good for you guys!

I did a lot of stress eating over the course of the election and count. I'm about 211 lbs. again.

Title: Re: Diet crap talk
Post by: Rusty Edge on November 22, 2020, 06:53:17 AM

206.9  New doctor ( old one left suddenly without explanation ) thought my annual physical was great, O2 96%, BP 110/66, pulse 62. HDL 68, Triglycerides 66.

I'm trying to get back on my diet program, but Thanksgiving will be an exception.