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Alfapiomega:
Hello everyone!

I checked but there seems to be nothings (almost nothing) about the total conversion mod Planetfall for Civilisation 4. I doubt other SMAC lovers wouldn't try it (despite me not trying it) so I was wondering if you could share your impressions :) The Planetfall forums seems to be full of cheerful people but it's always hard to guess how many of them are 14 years old and how many actually played SMAC (no dissing intended) :) just looking for some truthful review!

Buster's Uncle:
I made the Empath button for that, and I like Maniac.  I've seen a lot of screenshots, and the graphics appear to be lovingly-done, but AC still looks strange on that engine.

That's really all I know about Planetfall.

Green1:
I played a bit of it and own Civ 4. The graphics are, indeed, gorgeous.

However, due to the limitations of the Civ 4 engine, much of the things that make Alpha Centauri unique could not make it in. For one, you can not terraform changing the terrain. No unit workshop was possible. There where also a lot of "additions" that I personally thought were non-canonical that SMAniAC and his team put in. The game also slows down on later turns to a crawl if you have an older computer. The total rework of the tech tree also turned some folks off along with making some things religions and actual corporations using Civ 4 :BtS's system for that.

That said, I do think any redo of AC could benifit from Civ 4's handling of some things. I love the way Civ 4 handles aircraft, for instance, over the way AC does. Instead of unit workshop, SMAniAC and crew used Civ 4's promotion system. It works well enough. Much better AI due to using Civ 4's more modern AI.

I have often said, if you could just take Planetfall's graphics and Civ 4's AI and plug it into SMAX, folks would go nuts.

Alfapiomega:

--- Quote from: Green1 on November 03, 2012, 08:43:02 PM ---I played a bit of it and own Civ 4. The graphics are, indeed, gorgeous.

However, due to the limitations of the Civ 4 engine, much of the things that make Alpha Centauri unique could not make it in. For one, you can not terraform changing the terrain. No unit workshop was possible. There where also a lot of "additions" that I personally thought were non-canonical that SMAniAC and his team put in. The game also slows down on later turns to a crawl if you have an older computer. The total rework of the tech tree also turned some folks off along with making some things religions and actual corporations using Civ 4 :BtS's system for that.

That said, I do think any redo of AC could benifit from Civ 4's handling of some things. I love the way Civ 4 handles aircraft, for instance, over the way AC does. Instead of unit workshop, SMAniAC and crew used Civ 4's promotion system. It works well enough. Much better AI due to using Civ 4's more modern AI.

I have often said, if you could just take Planetfall's graphics and Civ 4's AI and plug it into SMAX, folks would go nuts.

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I might give it a try later on on account of what you said. Regarding the actual SMAC2 I am still hopeful. The game is indeed a masterpiece and if I ever get rich enough I would do it.
BTW that brings up a thing I had in mind for a long time - why is there no actual fundraising for SMAC2? I mean like a kickstarter. If people asked the original producers that could get a massive support. I know I would pledge 100USD in a blink.

Buster's Uncle:
[shrugs]  We'll never know until someone tries...  It ought to at least make for an effective and persuasive publicity stunt if it takes off at all.  Go for it.

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