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Offline EmpathCrawler

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #615 on: September 17, 2020, 05:41:26 PM »
Got a feature request idea while poking around the morale function: Any chance you can expose these turn thresholds for native lifecycle increases in thinker.ini?

https://github.com/b-casey/OpenSMACX/blob/master/src/veh.cpp#L113

It would be really cool to be able to tweak those since they don't seem to scale to difficulty or anything.

Offline MisterPachanga

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #616 on: October 31, 2020, 12:52:15 AM »
I am using the thinker mod v2.0 with PRACX v1.11 and can't automate the base governors.
Once a building is completed, they want to keep building the same thing.

What am I doing wrong?

Offline Induktio

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #617 on: October 31, 2020, 11:52:58 AM »
Alrighty, I decided to get back with this development. There's a couple of things that could be added in or fixed from the previous release.

> I think there is a bug with free formers. Progenitors and Planet Cult don't get them.

This is probably caused by the fact they spawn a couple of turns late. Free units only get assigned on turn 1 in this implementation.

> Got a feature request idea while poking around the morale function: Any chance you can expose these turn thresholds for native lifecycle increases in thinker.ini?

> my group noticed that transports and isles of the deep have a very high chance of fishing alien artifacts out of sea pods. Irritating little bug.

Do you know if anything has been implemented about these on WTP?

I'm also considering if there's any bugfixes to import from WTP mod. I probably won't import any large game mechanics changes as usual to keep the scope of this project smaller. But smaller bugfix style improvements are certainly welcome. What would be the most important ones here?

> I am using the thinker mod v2.0 with PRACX v1.11 and can't automate the base governors.

Don't remember any bug reports about these. Are there any differences to the vanilla binary here?

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #618 on: October 31, 2020, 12:44:56 PM »
Alrighty, I decided to get back with this development. There's a couple of things that could be added in or fixed from the previous release.

> I think there is a bug with free formers. Progenitors and Planet Cult don't get them.

This is probably caused by the fact they spawn a couple of turns late. Free units only get assigned on turn 1 in this implementation.

If interested I've hooked this on setup_faction function instead of relying on turn count. This solved it for later appearing factions.

> Got a feature request idea while poking around the morale function: Any chance you can expose these turn thresholds for native lifecycle increases in thinker.ini?

> my group noticed that transports and isles of the deep have a very high chance of fishing alien artifacts out of sea pods. Irritating little bug.

Do you know if anything has been implemented about these on WTP?


Nope.


Offline MisterPachanga

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #619 on: November 02, 2020, 07:18:53 AM »


> I am using the thinker mod v2.0 with PRACX v1.11 and can't automate the base governors.

Don't remember any bug reports about these. Are there any differences to the vanilla binary here?

I am playing with the GOG Planetary Pack.
No changes to any file. Only when I am playing with the terranx_mod is when I see this behavior. The base governor works fine on unmodded SMAC and SMACX.

Sure I am doing something wrong, I just don't know what it is

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #620 on: November 02, 2020, 02:34:27 PM »
Can anyone build up a reproducible test case with the save?
Induktio is back in business (as he mentioned on Riot) so he may look into it.

Offline Induktio

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #621 on: November 03, 2020, 08:07:02 PM »
Well, obviously I'm reading this thread too.

> No changes to any file. Only when I am playing with the terranx_mod is when I see this behavior. The base governor works fine on unmodded SMAC and SMACX.

It could be possible it's related to some fix in Scient's patch. Generally Thinker should just skip player-owned bases and not affect their behaviour. You could just try using build queues as a workaround in the meantime.

Offline Marty651

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #622 on: November 05, 2020, 02:08:34 PM »
It could be possible it's related to some fix in Scient's patch. Generally Thinker should just skip player-owned bases and not affect their behaviour. You could just try using build queues as a workaround in the meantime.
Hi Induktio,
I can confirm this issue. You mean a reason could be a fix you added to Scient's patch? Because this doesn't happen with Scient V2.1.

Offline Induktio

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #623 on: November 05, 2020, 10:31:35 PM »
This mod just imports Scient's patch with no modifications.

Based on some testing it appears one of Thinker's functions interferes with governors on player-owned bases. Looks like this one is pretty simple to fix unless I missed something. Almost nobody seems to use governors since this wasn't reported before.

Offline Induktio

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #624 on: November 08, 2020, 08:04:50 PM »
Good news, v2.1 is now available from project website.

One of the most long awaited features is some kind of balance in combat between different reactors. I implemented a new patch called ignore_reactor_power for this purpose. It's still considered experimental but I encourage players to enable it. Many other minor fixes were also included in this release. Here's the rest of the changelog:

(click to show/hide)

Offline Induktio

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #625 on: November 09, 2020, 04:55:18 PM »
Due to an apparent oversight, it looks like revised_tech_cost is not working in v2.1. It just defaults to the vanilla cost mechanics. This will be fixed in the next release. Other than that, haven't seen any big issues with the latest version though.

Offline EmpathCrawler

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #626 on: November 18, 2020, 01:02:19 PM »
Hell yeah, going to have to play again.

Offline Marty651

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #627 on: November 18, 2020, 02:19:03 PM »
Hell yeah, going to have to play again.
Definitely! Especially since Induktio released V2.2 three days ago!

Offline Induktio

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #628 on: November 20, 2020, 10:21:20 PM »
Hell yeah, going to have to play again.

Sure, tell us how the game went also. ;)

And another note... there were some features (like diplomacy changes) that I considered for this update, but those ultimately didn't make the final cut. I'm not sure if those would make a sufficient impact to be necessary for inclusion in the game.

Offline EmpathCrawler

Re: SMACX Thinker Mod
« Reply #629 on: November 21, 2020, 06:03:27 PM »
Speaking of diplomacy changes: I wonder if, and I haven't though this out at all, it would help the AIs if non-aquatic factions that lost all of their land bases would become heavily inclined to submit to their enemies. It would be much better for the victorious AI to not have to follow up a decisive victory on land with sea base whack a mole that can last a century. They could instead benefit from the commerce income and get to move on to their next enemy.


I'm actually not even sure if AIs sign submission pacts with each other.

 

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