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Title: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 23, 2014, 01:16:41 AM
Last year, I set up a YouTube channel and put one video on it just to see if I could do game playing and commentary. Did not touch it after that much.

Lately I have had an urge to start pumping videos. I have a registered copy of FRAPS, which is a video recorder. I also can fake knowing my way around Windows Live Moviemaker, though I realize it is not the best tool.

I have decided to begin with Age of Wonders 3 patch 1.10. After recording one full game already, I decided to not upload that because I had the difficulty setting a bit too low for my current ability and I did not feel after listening to myself that I explained things in the detail I wanted to. I also thought the video ran too long.  As soon as I get off my forum kick today, I am going to fire up FRAPS and record again. Preferably upload this weekend.

question is...

I am missing something. When I did AARs, I used to MS paint over the battlefield so I could better illustrate strategy. I am not sure how to do that in video. Sure, I could stop video, screen shot, open up paint and insert painted screen shot  as a frame in video but that is A LOT of editing. This would also mean recording video and audio separately.  Any programs you know of that has an overlay that lets you draw over active screens? Football game coverage in the US does this, so I am sure there is a way to draw over video. If it is too expensive, I will cope.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 23, 2014, 05:15:29 AM
First video is a wrap. Will begin uploading tomorrow. Watched it, seems pretty okay. A few umms and ahhs, but I think I did okay.

((18 GB!!!! in AVI format wtf???))
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 23, 2014, 05:19:43 AM
Jesus.  All the computers in 10 Radio Shacks when I was a kid put together couldn't run that - or even hold it.

We are living in the future.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 23, 2014, 05:31:11 AM
Jesus.  All the computers in 10 Radio Shacks when I was a kid put together couldn't run that - or even hold it.

We are living in the future.

.avi is a very uncompressed format. I may wish to convert to .wmv. Got to be careful about artifacts in the video if you do that. Still, converting to .wmv will be around 6 to 10 GB. And, that is only 45 mins of video.

For video makers, even a large hard drive can be used up VERY quickly.

We are in the future. Now if the internet could speed up to match what must be uploaded and downloaded.....
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 23, 2014, 01:46:07 PM
Did not do much editing at all. At some point I should probably put a title screen on these things. Windows Moviemaker can do that, but it looks... well Windows Moviemakerish if that can be a word. I need to do this in baby steps. Some of the more advanced stuff you see in Youtube videos have a bit of a learning cliff. At least for a nublet. Maybe for a next project.

Now, I see some folks put their own title screens for each that looks sharp. I suppose it is as easy as drawing these graphics on a program like Gimp or MS Paint and just dragging them in front of the video. Some get snazzy and put custom audio in the intros, too. However, I have a personal time frame goal that I wanted to churn this out by, and I am past that. It is time to publish. Plus, I have limited artistic ability.

I am using Windows Moviemaker as a kind of poor man's format converter. FRAPS, the software I used to record puts out in .avi. Avi format is high quality, but eats up hard drive like a fat dude in an ice cream parlor. As much as folks malign MS Windows and anything associated with it, .wmv (Window's native video format) is much more lightweight. Sad thing is YouTube will further convert it into a .flv format. This can cause artifacting.  Flv is a flash player and is very lightweight. I have searched for ways just to convert straight to flash inexpensively. Unfortunately, the good editing software is expensive. The shareware and free versions of stuff is either loaded with bloatware or only converts and is not an editor, at least for .flv formats. Even with Windows Movie Maker, it is taking 15 to 30 minutes to convert 18 GB of .avi video! This is with a low end newer quad core laptop. Maybe not an ideal editing rig, but it is what I have.

Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 23, 2014, 02:02:27 PM
Mylochka is very into this YouTube video thing, and has even taught it as part of graduate-level classes.  I'll try to get her to look in and talk to you.  She may or may not know how to do on the cheap...
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 23, 2014, 02:07:46 PM
That is awesome, but I think I am doing it about as cheaply as I can. The most annoying is converting and uploading. Editing is a whole different beast.

There is a dude named quill that does these LPs that have like 20+episodes. Each episode is around an hour. To make that more impressive, he may have 4 of these games going on at once. His computers probably are compressing video 24/7. Not to mention probably several TB hardrives. You would need that storage capacity...

Still converting..
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Geo on May 23, 2014, 03:14:48 PM
Mylochka is very into this YouTube video thing, and has even taught it as part of graduate-level classes.  I'll try to get her to look in and talk to you.  She may or may not know how to do on the cheap...

Is she thinking of making her own Valjiir video? ;)
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 23, 2014, 03:19:19 PM
Several, five years ago.  Cher makes them, too.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Geo on May 23, 2014, 03:23:26 PM
I assume they're a collection of poser still's?
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 23, 2014, 03:36:22 PM
Mylochka is very into this YouTube video thing, and has even taught it as part of graduate-level classes.  I'll try to get her to look in and talk to you.  She may or may not know how to do on the cheap...

Is she thinking of making her own Valjiir video? ;)

I had to Google Valjiir.... seems interesting. I will have to see some of her video work when I get a chance. If is  as good as her art,  I am sure it is way out of my league and very polished and good.

Anyways, they seem to have changed things around a bit under Windows 8.1. Windows Moviemaker now converts by default to mp4. That is GOOD news. The file is 1.4 GB. That means it will not take till time for me to retire to upload to YouTube.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 23, 2014, 03:46:05 PM
Mylochka sez MovieMaker is powerful and good...

I assume they're a collection of poser still's?
Mostly, yes, set to music and all the standard things.  At least they do it well. 

Poser IS an animation program, though nobody much uses it for that...
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 23, 2014, 04:16:05 PM
Mylochka sez MovieMaker is powerful and good...

Delving a bit further, I am seeing that. I need a tutorial. They changed a bunch of things with the Win 8 release. Not that I knew my way around the previous versions, either. I may need to watch several hours of tutorials to get more competent and a bit braver.

I will attempt to upload shortly.

Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Geo on May 23, 2014, 04:24:38 PM
Poser IS an animation program, though nobody much uses it for that...

Too difficult to animate posers?
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 23, 2014, 04:44:04 PM
The animation kinda sucks.  You've noticed how all the men tend to look rubbery and gay in stills?  The animation is a little that way, too.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Geo on May 23, 2014, 05:06:45 PM
Ah, a woman's best friend thus. ;)
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 23, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
Yes.  Ladies are definitely more likely to be into it.  Most of the men do ships and architecture, not people so much.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 25, 2014, 02:35:53 AM
Well, Geo and BU, their artwork seems pretty cool but it is not my thing. I still love it when folks get to have fun creating stuff.

Anyways, I am newbish compared to those guys. Hopefully me ranting on my learning pains will help others and I may learn a thing or two.

Speaking of learning pains, unlike what I was considering before, I have made the decision NOT to monetize. After assessing my current skills, I think it is kind of tacky to do that when I need a lot of polish. It is easy to hear all these stories and watch really good people, but you have no idea much how much skill they have.

I also decided that I am really not concerned about view numbers, per se. Instead I am concerned with learning through repetition. That said, second part of the Age of Wonders game will be up tomorrow. It should go a little easier.

THINGS I MUST WORK ON.

STYLE

1. I am not sure if my Southern Mississippi/ New Orleans accent hurts or helps. I do know in may places in the USA at least, some folks view it as ignorant. Others capitalize on it. I am not sure altering my speech is necessary but I must at least speak faster than most southerners.

2. Ums and Ahhs must go. I slurred over once when I almost tripped over my words at first, but at least I did not have that.

3. Towards the end of part 1, I was struggling as to what to say. I think I mentioned I wanted to end it shortly, twice and I also was so worried about stuttering that I did not read the quest text and thought I won a city but did not. I should never be wanting to end it but always be excited, even if drained.

CONTENT

1. Game has been out, and I missed release. Google search will send me views at around 10 - 5 per day unless I push this, which I am not too willing to do yet. Why so low? AoW3 is a niche game plus, I am a newb. The WoW video has 1k views. I expect about 100 at end of month as I complete playlist. But because it is far post release, audience will want more tactical talk and less mechanic talk.

2. Must work on thumbnails and channel art. This will be where I need help.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 25, 2014, 02:53:33 AM
You're right about um's and ahhs.  My opinion on the accent is useless, me being a North Carolinian.  I noticed an accent, but didn't think much about it, and didn't react as non-southerners would.  I happen to think their bigotry is their problem, but you're absolutely correct that it's a pragmatic consideration you shold take into account - but I'd be impressed if you could extemporize at length in a neutral broadcaster non-accent.  That's infinitely harder to learn than it sounds, and if you can't already and/or hope to go into radio talent work, I doubt it's worth a second thought.  Concentrate on smoothness of your diction and technical excellence for a better return on your effort.  Be southern and it's no big deal, in other words.  -So don't read the comments, for your own mental health, please.  (There weren't any yet when I looked, but some drunk 13 year-old Yankee is going to -- you already know this.)

Mylochka could help you more w/ the delivery advice, but she's always AFK working when she feels good, and little internet is going to happen for her anytime soon.  I have given Cher a heads-up, and I hope she'll come chat you up about video making.

It was a good-looking vid, with a strong opening.  The umms and ahhs will tend to take care of themselves largely as you get used to talking while you record your play, I daresay.  You've nailed that the main thing you need to do is keep at it and learn by repetition as you go.  Good start. ;b;

I used to perform for a living, you'll recall, and practice makes perfect when a smart feller like you is doing it.  You just plain get better if you observe and think and keep doing.


I know some guys who can help you w/ art...
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 25, 2014, 03:07:49 AM
I hear you on the comment part.

The comments for Age of Wonders when I get them I am not worried about. The average bigoted 13 year old mouth breather can not appreciate a 4x of any kind. Add to that the 4x crowd has always been very cordial and intelligent. Even when they insult you, they use complete sentences and reasoning.

That old World of Warcraft PvP video where I was just messing around.... my goodness... One guy told me I should go kill myself because I keyboard turned. I erased that comment. But yeah... I could see how that could affect one's mental health no matter how thick skinned one is.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 25, 2014, 03:37:14 AM
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Aaron Diaz  @dresdencodak 

"What's it like to be popular on the internet?" Well, you get to share what you make with people. Also strangers tell you to kill yourself.


Retweeted by Timothy O'Neil
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Add to that the 4x crowd has always been very cordial and intelligent. Even when they insult you, they use complete sentences and reasoning.
AC2 has spoiled you...
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 25, 2014, 05:07:56 AM
I still maintain it is 4x. Even CFC is not that bad. At least I have never run into issues there.

I have even been posting on Triumph Studio's forum. You do have the occasional crossover from fantasy MMOs like WoW that whine and have introduced MMO terms into the AoW 4x community. But, for the most part everyone is civil.

I do not think it is just AC2.

Speaking of posting on Triumph.... Next week I FINALLY get a real internet since I have been kicking ass lately. No more cell phone hacks and tethers. I may try this... which I think is a sneaky way to market. I may try to AAR a random MP IP to IP game. Post may ignored because of the caste system of MP community at AoW3 ignores non beta testers. But, I want experience with that kind of editing as the next project. Audio will be separate from video and I will ighlight moves. An editing challenge. It also must be done fairly quickly. Since I have a post in tread with dev interest, a link would be appropriate if I have the goods. Even though it will not be a two sided deal.

Yeah.. this is going to be tough.

But that is the next challenge. Let's practice putting up content on a regular basis and making it seamless while increasing quality.

Here is the post. IntentionalTravels is a aspect of Green1.

Please, do not take this as me wishing to focus on AoW3. I do not want to be tied to one game, nor do I think it is good learning to be tied to one game.

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Narvek


Keymaster
 

I’d also like to watch something like this.. maybe even one person playing a match against someone else and a commentator commenting on the progress, speculating why he does what, etc. Would be especially awesome if that commentator could also switch views between player 1 and player 2.


May 23, 2014 at 14:55 #96672 Reply | Quote
 



Erwin


Member
 

If you need somebody to battle for a 1v1 let me know!


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BLOODYBATTLEBRAIN


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ok, Erwin, letting you know!


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IntentionalTravels


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I have been dabbling in YouTube vids as of late and I think I am getting the hang of it. I have been thinking about recording a random MP match.

My only deal is that I have not done an MP match yet because of a shaky internet connection. Come to think of it, I do not think I have done a proper MP match since a PBEM or two in another game on another site that I lost interest in because it was taking months and my life got busier.

I plan on solving the shaky internet by changing ISPs by next week. I may be sneaky and record a game at that time on a day off when I can dedicate time to it.

While I am willing to record just to get better at making videos and personal development, do you think there is room for a MP newbie to make mistakes? Or do you think they just want to watch very good almost “pro” MPers?
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 25, 2014, 05:44:21 AM
I just ended a few months swimming regularly in the ocean of urine that is 'poly OT, and I stand behind my remarks about not all the community being all that mature.  (It was an education swimming w/ the pee sharks.  I swam well, as it happened, and bit back, betimes, deeply. ;)  I contain multitudes.)

Focus on AoW3 if you need to.  I'm happy to have made Other Games for you when you needed it. ;nod
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 26, 2014, 05:23:49 AM
Just try check the ocean next time. If it is more yellow than blue....

On a side note, I believe I have figured out how you can record SMAX after putting two and two together and reading a lot. You have to have an external capture card.

Probably will need one if I turn out liking doing these. From reading, the way I do it uses way too much space with FRAPS.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 27, 2014, 09:27:04 AM
I am also having pains with FRAPs. I pressed the play hotkey and the FPS monitor indicated it was recording, but when I checked it had only recorded the last :38 seconds. When I say record, RECORD!!!!

Sad, because I think I am getting a lot better and seem not to be so nervous and self conscious around a mic in that video. I think I am getting to some good stuff.  Now I have to do something I never said I would do and reload.

I feel bad because I was starting to get absolutely stomped by the AI, though I was pushing back. Now I will have to re record with knowledge of my mistakes. It goes against my principles.

Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: DrazharLn on May 27, 2014, 09:45:23 AM
Some technical points: .avi, .mp4 and .wmv files are all video containers.

A container contains the audio and video for the film with each encoded separately. If you want to change your file size then you need to change the codec rather than the container.

The standard tool for converting film between formats and handling scaling, etc, is ffmpeg. It's a command line tool but there are probably graphical interfaces for it.

Re: delivery and film-making style
Veritasium has a great video on this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLIKgT-OSLQ)
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: DrazharLn on May 27, 2014, 09:56:33 AM
Forget to mention, h.264 is pretty much the state of the art video compression algorithm at the moment.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 27, 2014, 09:59:21 AM
Some technical points: .avi, .mp4 and .wmv files are all video containers.

A container contains the audio and video for the film with each encoded separately. If you want to change your file size then you need to change the codec rather than the container.

The standard tool for converting film between formats and handling scaling, etc, is ffmpeg. It's a command line tool but there are probably graphical interfaces for it.

Re: delivery and film-making style
Veritasium has a great video on this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLIKgT-OSLQ)

Man, that video was the most non-BS video ever on content. He cut straight to the chase.

Thank you.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 27, 2014, 10:03:34 AM
His main points being the worry.

I worry about the slowness of the uploads. I worry about technical issues. I worry about accents, etc, etc. I worry about being dead tired from a job and combined with those worries not do anything some days.

When really, I should just keep trucking.

Thanks.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: DrazharLn on May 27, 2014, 10:15:45 AM
You're very welcome.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: DrazharLn on May 27, 2014, 01:08:47 PM
Some feedback on the AoW3 video:

You pronounce "Cavalry" as "Calvary" and also "Halberdier" as "Halberder", which is unusual.

(They're usually pronounced something like cav-al-ree and hal-burr-dare. Try sticking
Code: [Select]
<phoneme alphabet="ipa" ph="ˌhæl bərˈdɪər"> </phoneme> into this (http://www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php) and having a listen. You can get IPA representations of pretty much any word from various online dictionaries.)

You don't seem to lead with something really interesting. You use the first few minutes to tell me stuff I already know (you're playing AoW3) and stuff I don't care about (patch version, map configuration). I don't watch a lot of Let's Plays, maybe that's par for the course, but I feel like the videos would be stronger if you had a better idea of what you wanted to say and worked out how to say it faster.

Shut up and sit down did an excellent and very humorous series of board game reviews (http://shutupshow.tumblr.com/episodes) that you might take some inspiration from in terms of pacing and what people might want to know.

(Or maybe the review format isn't what you're going for? I really don't know Let's plays.)
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 27, 2014, 01:18:51 PM
Jotting down a rough-but organized outline in advance to extemporize from might help...
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 27, 2014, 02:36:07 PM
Some feedback on the AoW3 video:

You pronounce "Cavalry" as "Calvary" and also "Halberdier" as "Halberder", which is unusual.

(They're usually pronounced something like cav-al-ree and hal-burr-dare. Try sticking
Code: [Select]
<phoneme alphabet="ipa" ph="ˌhæl bərˈdɪər"> </phoneme> into this (http://www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php) and having a listen. You can get IPA representations of pretty much any word from various online dictionaries.)

You don't seem to lead with something really interesting. You use the first few minutes to tell me stuff I already know (you're playing AoW3) and stuff I don't care about (patch version, map configuration). I don't watch a lot of Let's Plays, maybe that's par for the course, but I feel like the videos would be stronger if you had a better idea of what you wanted to say and worked out how to say it faster.

Shut up and sit down did an excellent and very humorous series of board game reviews (http://shutupshow.tumblr.com/episodes) that you might take some inspiration from in terms of pacing and what people might want to know.

(Or maybe the review format isn't what you're going for? I really don't know Let's plays.)


As far as map configuration, etc. , some do, some do not. Then again at this point after release, I should probably just say what setting I have briefly and jump right in. Most LP watchers do want to know version/mod (if used)/ settings and I have seen it on 80 percent of the ones I watch. I have seen other LPers use an annotation that lets people skip ahead to gameplay which is what I should do in the future.

Mispronunciations is peculiar and where the New Orleans/ Mississippi dialect comes in. I was VERY worried about that. A NOLA/ Jackson/ Biloxi accent is a city accent and not a Chalmation (lots of drawls and Jersey style 'yats - think Cajun/ River parishes) nor a country accent (many drawls, lots of 'ins) You are right, I do need to be mindful of it. We have a lot of weird pronunciations. It is natural to us, but weird to others. Hell, when I did a war game in Biloxi a few years back, I heard halberdier mentioned that way there, so I always assumed I was pronouncing it right :D. The Gulf South accent is also much slower speech than the rest of the US. Much slower than EU countries or the rest of the world. So, I must be mindful to speed up.

BU, I considered trying to measure what I would say first, but it is hard to pre plan dynamic content such as a sandbox 4x. Still, some catchy phrases may be cool.

I will work on all the feedback, thanks.

After this, I will probably hit up Doom2/ Brutal Doom/ Oblige level Maker. I think a random level FPS is just too cool and the fact you can do it at least with an ancient FPS is just too cool in an era of "green arrow, go here" linear SP FPS games.
Parts 2,3, and 4 will uploaded within the next day or so. 2 and 3 are on the hard drive. It will be a 1 episode thing. These 4x ones, folks watch like TV shows and they are long, long. I have seen some Civ 5 LPs last 24 episodes at 1 hr apiece!!!!

Thanks for the feedback.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 27, 2014, 02:49:04 PM
I'd observe that everyone in my (southern) experience pronounces Cavalry like the place Jesus was crucified, probably conflating that exact thing.  In other words, it's a correct pronunciation in the dialect you speak, Green, leaving aside pragmatic considerations of how the audience will react.


The point of the outline would be to organize your thoughts for a more organized and effective improvisation - jotting down zingers thought up in advance to work in at the right spots is a great idea.  Doesn't need to be formatted meticulously like the ones they made you do in high school - just a list in a rough order on one sheet you can glance at as you go...

Maybe a second for good lines to use, depending on how much space it takes up.  Keep it as flash-card simple as you can so it speeds you up not slows you down.  Have a pencil and mark off topics covered if you need to to make finding your place as you go easier/faster.  May take practice to make it work in a  smooth and truly effective way.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 27, 2014, 03:12:53 PM
I'd observe that everyone in my (southern) experience pronounces Cavalry like the place Jesus was crucified, probably conflating that exact thing.  In other words, it's a correct pronunciation in the dialect you speak, Green, leaving aside pragmatic considerations of how the audience will react.

Lol.... next thing you know I will say the word "Biloxi, MS". They will go after me for saying "Bil luxee" instead of "Bil loxee". You can always tell the outsiders by asking that question. Also, the word New Orleans is pronounced differently. The Chalmations say "N'awlins" but true New Orleanins say "Noorlins" like one word. Both southern, but notice the lack of "aw". Sadly, the Chalmation dialect is dying. When Chalmette was leveled by Katrina, many were spread around the US and folks made fun of the way they talked. When they returned to rebuild, many were very self conscious about the way they talked afterwards. It took a lot of the color out of region if you ask me.

BTW... how many folks can pronounce tchoupitoulas ? You are not from LA if you can not :D
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 27, 2014, 03:17:56 PM
New Orlins or N'orlins - it's their city, so theirs is absolutely the correct pronunciation...

I'm from Valdese - it's not a city in Alaska, and people as close as the next town over five minutes' drive away never ever accent the right syllable for some reason - it's VALdeez.  Irritates the heck outta me.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: DrazharLn on May 27, 2014, 04:11:54 PM
If your pronunciations are common to your dialect and not just a mistake, I'd say to keep them. Linguistic prescriptivists are the worst.
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Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 27, 2014, 07:01:34 PM
Hitler was the worst.

Now I've godwined an innocent thread.  I should make a bad BU smilie, shouldn't I?
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 28, 2014, 02:32:34 AM
If your pronunciations are common to your dialect and not just a mistake, I'd say to keep them. Linguistic prescriptivists are the worst.

lol... You had me going all over work today with a sheet of paper with the word "Cavalry" on it asking them to say the word. Everybody except the transplants from places like Chicago, Phoenix, and other places pronounced it as I did. Man, I did not realize how much my world has been saturated with such dialect that has rubbed off on me. I actually appreciate you pointing it out.

I watched the video you linked on presentation. It shows a lot of good tips, but an LP is not a review. A review should probably be no more than 15 to 30 minutes long (longer for certain games like MMOs or SP RPGs, shorter for FPS or action games) and is an evaluation of the game's merit. Now, while an LP CAN show flaws in a game and the LPer can trash it, this is not what most LPs are.

An LP is merely an evolution of a forum After Action Report. Think they are too long? I agree. I actually prefer to read forum AARs over videos because I can read and get the point much faster than watching. I also watch and keep tabs on a few LPers, but even I do not watch every single thing they do. Some of the LPs by the good ones that have been doing it forever are up to 20 one hour episodes for a 4x like Civ V!!!! But, someone like you is not the target audience for that. People that watch LPs watch them like soap operas. They search then if they see someone who explains the game the way they like and are halfway competent, they watch it like TV. They also wind and rewind a lot, particularly to see battles or tactics they believe the LPer messed up on or a trick they could use in their game. You can see this as spikes on Google Youtube Analytics.

Most professional LPers make the majority of money beating everyone to release of a game and putting up videos. Once there, they get carry over from viewers that stick with them. LPs never really go viral. For niche games and small audience, the average is about 100 to 500 views. A YouTube star may hit 5000 to 1000 with the perfect storm of a late closed non-NDA beta release and tons of subs, but that is like chasing a unicorn for most mere mortals. Someone like me will get 75 to 100 after 30 days. Since the target audience watches these like soap operas, you have to churn these things out. That is one of the reason the internet dropping I have been having lately is even more worrisome than dialect issues or even the occasional ums or ahhs. You HAVE to pump out according to every source I have read. Not saying I want to be a professional. But this is a cool experiment for me and I decided this forum would be cool to share my mad experiments with.

Long post, but hope that compares what I have seen with LPs that differ from other videos, though there is cross over.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: DrazharLn on May 28, 2014, 01:47:18 PM
I'm glad you seem to know what you want to do and I hope you have fun with it.

I wouldn't worry about me thinking your videos are too slow too much. I think almost all video is too slow (especially typical American TV shows, so much filler).
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 29, 2014, 01:43:12 AM
I'm glad you seem to know what you want to do and I hope you have fun with it.

I wouldn't worry about me thinking your videos are too slow too much. I think almost all video is too slow (especially typical American TV shows, so much filler).

"Knowing what I am doing" is a relative term. I read more stuff than is healthy online and can communicate (somewhat) this well in text. Spoken media, though is a new frontier for me.

I hear you on American shows and even US talk radio. 15 mins of fluff with some content that could have been written in 4 sentences and  15 minutes of folks trying to sell something may be profitable, but is not good entertainment nor a good way to get information.

BTW, the connection did stay up long enough for me to annotate a skip button in the first video to skip past set up. The cable company is coming next week, so I am thinking about spending a day at the public library and using their wifi probably Saturday. I am off Friday, but have twenty tons of running around and obligations to do and will be out of the house most of the day. Say what you want about Baton Rouge, but the folks at the library get stuff done. That connection is lightning fast. The main library when it reopens is also not only larger than the one in New Orleans, but is relaxing - more a coffee house than a library.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on May 29, 2014, 01:46:40 AM
Also, patch 1.14 is out. I want to finish this up so I can go to GoG and patch at some point. Not sure if I patch now it will break saved games.

Last time, I had to reinstall because the universal patcher did not work and I lost a lot of stuff. Can not have that happening.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on June 18, 2014, 02:56:47 AM
Future updates are put on hold while I work extra hours to move to a REALLY, REALLY nice bachelor pad in the Spanish Towne area in Baton Rouge near 3rd Street.

I found that the crack heads next door have been splicing my cable and stealing power. This along with a non caring landlord has forced my hand.

From there I will cut hours a bit and begin gaming a bit more along with bending Downtown chicks to my evil will (hopefully).
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Geo on June 18, 2014, 09:09:39 PM
I found that the crack heads next door have been splicing my cable and stealing power. This along with a non caring landlord has forced my hand.

Ouch.
How did you figure it out it was them?
Plan to warn the next tenant?
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on June 19, 2014, 01:40:21 AM
I found that the crack heads next door have been splicing my cable and stealing power. This along with a non caring landlord has forced my hand.

Ouch.
How did you figure it out it was them?
Plan to warn the next tenant?

No, I am just getting out of here and will not meet the next tenant. This apartment I live in was a cheap apartment because when I moved cities to find work, I did not have a lot of cash. It is utilities paid for power and water. I had noticed internet dropping and an enraged landlord coming up wondering why the power bill was 600 dollars if it was just me and was threatening to make me pay it!

When the cable people came out and the landlord's lackies arrived, they found my cable spliced and an extension cord running from an outside outlet on the apartment to the next house!

Weird thing is, after that was fixed, I started having cable issues again! This time it was spliced going to yet another house!

Add to that, my air conditioning is going out and it is 95 degrees outside and my landlord told me I would have to buy a window unit myself!!!!

While I realize I had to cheap out on an apartment for a bit, I am now making quite a bit more money now and can afford better. Yeah, I could fight, but it just is not worth it when I do not really need to stay in this area anymore.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Geo on June 19, 2014, 10:38:15 AM
No, I am just getting out of here and will not meet the next tenant. This apartment I live in was a cheap apartment because when I moved cities to find work, I did not have a lot of cash. It is utilities paid for power and water. I had noticed internet dropping and an enraged landlord coming up wondering why the power bill was 600 dollars if it was just me and was threatening to make me pay it!

When the cable people came out and the landlord's lackies arrived, they found my cable spliced and an extension cord running from an outside outlet on the apartment to the next house!

Weird thing is, after that was fixed, I started having cable issues again! This time it was spliced going to yet another house!

Add to that, my air conditioning is going out and it is 95 degrees outside and my landlord told me I would have to buy a window unit myself!!!!

While I realize I had to cheap out on an apartment for a bit, I am now making quite a bit more money now and can afford better. Yeah, I could fight, but it just is not worth it when I do not really need to stay in this area anymore.

Oh, looks like it really is the landlords' problem then. He should secure his outlets better then. Seems like the neighbourhood is toying with him. ;lol
Too bad you're in the middle of that.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Dio on June 19, 2014, 02:57:47 PM
No, I am just getting out of here and will not meet the next tenant. This apartment I live in was a cheap apartment because when I moved cities to find work, I did not have a lot of cash. It is utilities paid for power and water. I had noticed internet dropping and an enraged landlord coming up wondering why the power bill was 600 dollars if it was just me and was threatening to make me pay it!

When the cable people came out and the landlord's lackies arrived, they found my cable spliced and an extension cord running from an outside outlet on the apartment to the next house!

Weird thing is, after that was fixed, I started having cable issues again! This time it was spliced going to yet another house!

Add to that, my air conditioning is going out and it is 95 degrees outside and my landlord told me I would have to buy a window unit myself!!!!

While I realize I had to cheap out on an apartment for a bit, I am now making quite a bit more money now and can afford better. Yeah, I could fight, but it just is not worth it when I do not really need to stay in this area anymore.

Oh, looks like it really is the landlords' problem then. He should secure his outlets better then. Seems like the neighbourhood is toying with him. ;lol
Too bad you're in the middle of that.
I do not believe that is a laughing matter; especially if someone else is being blamed for another person's actions.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on June 20, 2014, 04:49:54 AM
Yeah.. This landlord is crazy. The actual owner is this 90 yr old who owns around 70 houses in the ghetto between LSU and Downtown. The property manager is who I mostly deal with. In front of my apartment are two houses divided into furnished rooms for rent. The owner makes her and her husband stay in one of the rooms up front to "watch" the property. The husband stays drunk. When I mean drunk, I mean 40 oz in the morning and multiple 40 ozes until he passes out. I drink beer, too, but I can not drink more than 6 12 ozers and I am very toasted with that. No way I would drink more than that. I would feel like [poop] and I would have nothing to cook my gumbo with. This dude drinks enough that I would be up in Baton Rouge General getting my stomach pumped if I drank that much!

What is worse, is he hangs out outside and the drunker he gets, the meaner he gets. I tried talking with him, but it all is a broken record of how he made thousands up in Alaska on the pipeline and blew it all on Meth and Crack then got busted and extradited to Louisiana for some charge (probably felony - I think assault and armed robbery). In a way I feel soory for the property manager. He yells at her, kicks their cute little dog, and gets into fights all the time. Of course, he hardly ever works. But, my compassion with this is at and end when they try to take it out on me - even if they did reverse the decision.. After all, his ass would be laying on a cardboard box on Florida Blvd homeless if she was not property manager.

I move next month. Much more expensive place, but f'n NICE. And this new landlord has heard of this one and understands.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on June 20, 2014, 04:50:35 AM
Man.. I just went off with TMI (too much information). But, man that felt good.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 20, 2014, 05:20:26 AM
We won't tell.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Geo on June 20, 2014, 11:35:15 AM
[quote author Dio]
I do not believe that is a laughing matter; especially if someone else is being blamed for another person's actions.
[/quote]

You are of course entitled to your beliefs. Just keep in mind other people don't necessarily share them.

In this case, no harm came to Green1, and it looks like he didn't even have to move elsewhere. So making fun of a cranky coingrabber like Green1's soon-to-be former landlord seems allright to me.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Green1 on June 20, 2014, 06:54:47 PM
Geo is correct.

I did not have to move. I can, if I want stay here. After all, I do not give them any stress about rent nor do I destroy the place any more than was already destroyed by previous tenants. This place is an  old slave quarters I live in. Pretty common in older areas in cities in the South.

The landlord is a miserly penny pincher. Even though the owner himself is worth millions, I hear he lives in some broken down 2 bedroom shotgun south of here. His furniture is all from garage sales. Not sure why accumulating money matters when you do not use it, but that is his deal.

Nor was trying to come after me for things I did not do merely because I have a job and could be inconvenienced by having to move right then since I have no lease. When they came to me with that stuff, I told them I was not entitled to pay that big electric bill  since our agreement was the landlord paid utilities. If they forced me to, I reminded them I had the cash to throw myself in a hotel room while they were looking at an unoccupied apartment perhaps for months. Summer is a bad time to find tenants in college towns. The money missed from my rent would be much less than the high utility bill.

Always appeal to a villain's since of money, not compassion, is the best way of dealing with that.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 21, 2014, 04:33:10 AM
The landlord is a miserly penny pincher. Even though the owner himself is worth millions, I hear he lives in some broken down 2 bedroom shotgun south of here. His furniture is all from garage sales. Not sure why accumulating money matters when you do not use it, but that is his deal.

There are many people who survived The Great Depression that live in permanent fear of it coming again.  They don't trust their money to banks or stock markets. They live as economically as possible and save the rest. It might be buried. It might be stashed in the pages of old magazines and newspapers. 

There are others who lost everything in WW II that think the same way. Permanent austerity mode. They can never have enough to feel secure.

Obviously most people recover and lead normal lives, but since this affected so many people, even a small % of them equals a lot of people.
Title: Re: YouTube : Trying out games and sharing them. Questions.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 21, 2014, 05:02:43 AM
That was my dad all over.
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