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Title: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on September 04, 2013, 06:57:19 PM
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Dolls that look haunted give me the creeps.

;uno
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 04, 2013, 11:56:50 PM
Well, since this for haunting research, I'll search images, and give you some examples.

Since you probably know that you'll actually survive Disney's Tower of Terror, I can tell you that at the end of the haunted elevator ride there are some interesting replica props to the side including a ventriloquist's dummy.


anyway just google imaging and picking out the faces seems to suggest I'm not alone in this opinion. The links and attachments are different pictures.-

http://www.amusingplanet.com/2011/04/island-of-dolls-mexicos-creepiest.html (http://www.amusingplanet.com/2011/04/island-of-dolls-mexicos-creepiest.html)

http://www.webpronews.com/makielabs-3d-printed-dolls-are-kind-of-terrifying-2013-02 (http://www.webpronews.com/makielabs-3d-printed-dolls-are-kind-of-terrifying-2013-02)

I think it's a nice idea that some lady designed dolls for kids with down's syndrome, but they freak me out-
(see attachment )

http://www.thegoldengleam.com/2013/02/creepy-baby-dolls.html (http://www.thegoldengleam.com/2013/02/creepy-baby-dolls.html)

http://feltalive.com/gallery.htm (http://feltalive.com/gallery.htm)

There's just something in general about a doll that looks as if it could come to life ( twighlight zone manequin episode ), OR one that might have been human once in a "House of Wax" kind of way, OR in a person trapped in a doll's body ( twilight zone ventriloquism episode ). Then there's the evil Talking Tina episode, but the killer dolls aren't as scary to me as the dolls or something else turning people into dolls in a zombie-kind-of-way.

I've seen some creepy ones in antique stores that I wouldn't trust with my kids if I had kids.

http://www.treehugger.com/slideshows/culture/artist-sculpts-beautifully-haunted-dolls-all-natural-materials/page/5/#slide-top (http://www.treehugger.com/slideshows/culture/artist-sculpts-beautifully-haunted-dolls-all-natural-materials/page/5/#slide-top)

A doll doesn't have to be  intentionally creepy to be creepy.   Apparently there's a word for fear of dolls- "Pediophobia"



http://community.ebay.com/t5/Dolls/Seriously-You-don-t-like-antique-dolls/td-p/1291086 (http://community.ebay.com/t5/Dolls/Seriously-You-don-t-like-antique-dolls/td-p/1291086)


I hope this helps.




Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 05, 2013, 12:05:00 AM
I've certainly seen the uncanny valley effect at work.  My mother and sister are doll artists, and Sis got Mom a subscription to a ceramic doll maker's magazine - for a year, every time I had myself a private sit-down in the reading room, I was staring at these exquisitely-crafted, carefully and skillfully painted, very realistic dolls on the cover. 

Creepy poop-time about 10 o'clock every day, I tells ya.
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Unorthodox on September 05, 2013, 02:12:36 PM
Ah, those are absolutely NORMAL.  You want with the creepy dolls, I can point you to whole sections on where to buy and how to make them. 

What's wrong with the monster high dolls?   Or is that one of the bratz knockoffs? 

Here, have some nightmare fuel.

Scary scene from Destination Truth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn7NbgcMKCQ#)
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 05, 2013, 03:56:22 PM
The Monster High dolls has to do with the sickly unnatural  lip & eye coloration. Otherwise, the facial shape/eye size and complexion vaguely suggests the Gray Aliens. Basically I googled images of dolls, picked out the ones that seemed creepy, hit the "more" key for another page a couple of times.

I'd say you're right. Either somebody got candy cane on Christmas clearance/expired/ factory rejects for little or no cost, or they thought the mint would keep away the mites.

What little I've seen of those cable ghost shows makes me think "blair witch project", and whenever I see that lighting it comes across as low budget hoax - more insulting than scarey. Maybe this show is different.
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Unorthodox on September 05, 2013, 04:59:17 PM
Oh, Destination Truth was a special show, that's to be sure.  The clip there doesn't do the show itself justice.  They were much less about 'finding evidence' than they were showing the mythology in context with the cultures that spawn them.  They didn't take it very serious, themselves, but the island of the dolls is a real place that I can't blame them for being a bit creeped out running around in the dark. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XBMpNWkpYNs/SrI8JZNiG_I/AAAAAAAAEyo/ebvEREP53DI/s800/364032566_a4d3e7d2ca.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2-_r1fsAtJY/SrI8Jov9QvI/AAAAAAAAEys/vylKHdLAwsM/s800/10630546.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cHdWlGHgsAc/SrI8JPFlpMI/AAAAAAAAEyk/2qwWSnx28mo/s800/mu%25253F%25253FecasIsl%25253Ablog.jpg)

I mean, the place is just WRONG. 
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 05, 2013, 05:01:03 PM
They were much less about 'finding evidence' than they were showing the mythology in context with the cultures that spawn them.
For the first time, the show interests me...
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Unorthodox on September 05, 2013, 06:10:16 PM
Oh, you'd love the host.  He's not the traditional overserious/treat the natives with kid gloves type. 

The episodes roughly follow a format 30 minute segment per monster:  Discussion about what creature they're looking for > adventures in traveling to remote location, including crazy trnasportation > interviewing RANDOM locals while shopping in the local bazaar/eating the local quisine > interview local expert (which is sometimes, say, a witch doctor/tribal chief) > If custom calls for it, get blessed by local priest > last 5 minutes, go wander in the woods.  They almost never really find anything more than shadows in the dark (when they do it's always inconclusive), and most end with something along the lines of "to the people of wherever, there is no doubt." 

Of course, they edit those times to more investigating if interesting things were happening and all, but most the show is about the travel and seeing the other cultures.  Best 'monster hunting' show I've seen, really sad it's not around. 
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 05, 2013, 06:23:28 PM
This one on the upper left was the one that "jumped out" at me from the Island of the Dolls.

Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 05, 2013, 06:26:39 PM
I'll have to point out the show to Mylochka; the cultural/anthropological aspects sound right up her alley.
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Unorthodox on September 05, 2013, 06:29:11 PM
yeah, if I EVER do dolls, it'll be inspired by that place.  Never understood the doll fear till I saw that. 


Similarly, they did a graveyard that was creepy as all hell as well.  Like a lightbulb going on.  That's what I loved most about the show. 
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 05, 2013, 06:33:12 PM
Also, she's a doll artist, so that episode may be of particular interest...
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Unorthodox on September 05, 2013, 06:47:41 PM
Does she do CREEPY dolls?  (as in aged/dirtied/etc)  I could probably hook you up with places to sell those. 
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Mylochka on September 05, 2013, 07:32:04 PM
No, generally I do the opposite.  I take aging dolls and figure out how to make them look new again.  These picture make me want to get out a tub of warm water and a bottle of Clorox Clean up and go to work!!

But yeah, I agree with you, the "creep" factor for Doll Island is through the roof.  Makes you think not only of death and violence but of innocence lost or betrayed.  Not just scary, but sad scary. Hits you in the little kid part of your heart...

I've been seeing a lot of the Monster High dolls recently.  As a doll customizer,  they're interesting to me because they have very large features for such small dolls -- making them great candidates for repaints. I'm also intrigued that they offer "roll your own" kits for these dolls... Very tempting!
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 05, 2013, 07:45:17 PM
And as you know, Uno, we've done some work together in sinister masks - I imagine something like Day of the Dead dolls would not at all be out of the question.  Lots of artistic possibilities in working with the creepy dolls of various cultures.
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Unorthodox on September 05, 2013, 09:15:53 PM
My daughter is not so much a doll person, but has taken a shine to her lone Monster high doll.  I might need to be concerned that it tends to imprison all the disney princesses....

"Roll your own"?  As in a mold or something? 
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 06, 2013, 04:45:40 AM
Those Princesses are always getting into trouble and in need of  somebody to rescue them, unless she's Mirada The Brave, then she can do it herself.
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Mylochka on September 06, 2013, 07:22:20 PM


"Roll your own"?  As in a mold or something?

Yeah, they sell kits where you can snap together torsos, legs, arms, and heads, and then apply decals for the eyes and mouth.  I guess there's wigs available too.

Here's an example of the sort of repaints I've been seeing...
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 06, 2013, 07:58:53 PM
I love the color palette on that one.

I'd like to nominate this doll tangent as a break-out thread of it's own.
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 06, 2013, 08:04:17 PM
I can totally do that - Dolls?  Creepy Dolls?  What's our title?
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 06, 2013, 09:37:27 PM
I think simply "Dolls" will do nicely.  That's easy to to remember, long enough to search, and general enough for everyone's purposes.
Title: Re: Re: The
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 06, 2013, 09:39:05 PM
Good enough for me.  On it.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 06, 2013, 09:48:01 PM
Ah, those are absolutely NORMAL.  You want with the creepy dolls, I can point you to whole sections on where to buy and how to make them.
I disagree and think you know better - something really mundane looking will catch you off-guard and has far more potential for true immersive horror than anything that puts the victim on guard by LOOKING all gothic or whatever right up front.  You know that, even though you work in a little more obvious stuff; you're not interested in giving anyone a heart attack.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: gwillybj on September 06, 2013, 11:13:03 PM
The one with the green lips isn't so bad, but I'm never going to look at the googly-eyed one ever again.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 06, 2013, 11:59:29 PM
The one with the green lips isn't so bad, but I'm never going to look at the googly-eyed one ever again.

The eye brows or lashes or whatever they are on that googly doll look like a whipstitch. As if it were a Frankendoll.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 07, 2013, 12:08:48 AM
...It was a disturbingly common look for dolls of about 100 years ago...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 07, 2013, 12:15:25 AM
I'm posting this, not because I find it creepy, but because I think the dolls in my links aren't getting the same attention as the dolls in my posts, and it might be of interest.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 07, 2013, 12:18:27 AM
 :danc: :danc: :danc: :danc:

Now I gotta go take a photo to post...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 07, 2013, 12:28:24 AM
Mother is talented.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on September 07, 2013, 01:09:34 AM
My grandmother was a doll collector. She had hundreds more Barbies than I ever did, and she made her own Cabbage Patch dolls and carved doll heads out of dried apples and made bodies and clothes for them.

One day, one of my typing clients came to the house and noticed a bunch of these shrunken, carved apple doll heads hanging from various hooks in the kitchen. She got a bit freaked out, so I put on my most innocent face and said, "Oh, my grandmother is a headhunter. Didn't I mention that?"

 :D
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 07, 2013, 01:18:28 AM
Someone once gave my grandma a big glass-door china cabinet for Christmas.  She filled it with dolls.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on September 07, 2013, 01:24:15 AM
My china cabinet is filled with cat stuff, penguin stuff, fancy ceramic bookends (ie. a sculpture of Porch of the Maidens), and pet rocks.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 07, 2013, 01:34:05 AM
I'm posting this, not because I find it creepy, but because I think the dolls in my links aren't getting the same attention as the dolls in my links, and it might be of interest.

Luuuuuv it!!!! ;lol ;lol
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 07, 2013, 01:36:07 AM
Here's me standing in front of my mother's built-in wall bookshelf.  Alas, it was framed to emphasize the books on a guy-filled forum, so you don't get the full effect of how MANY dolls.  She does like books, too...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 07, 2013, 01:37:04 AM
The Japanese have a long-standing storytelling tradition about haunted dolls.  It's featured in this episode of the classic anime series "Vampire Princess Miyu".  Very creepy...

[Anime OVA] Vampire Princess Miyu [EPISODE 2/4] [PART 1/2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhFo-Ut6g8g#)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on September 07, 2013, 01:43:02 AM
Here's me standing in front of my mother's built-in wall bookshelf.  Alas, it was framed to emphasize the books on a guy-filled forum, so you don't get the full effect of how MANY dolls.  She does like books, too...
My grandmother would have loved those dolls. I'm having a case of Bookshelf Envy right about now...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 07, 2013, 02:48:18 AM
 :) How about some Fireplace mantel envy?

Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 07, 2013, 04:10:25 PM
My brother, BU, sent me this link to a kickstarter page by comic book artist Jill Thompson (too bad he doesn't post at this site so he could post it here himself, ain't it?) to help fund the production of a doll based on her Scary Godmother character.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1327932176/the-scary-godmother-doll (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1327932176/the-scary-godmother-doll)

If you donate at or above the $50 level, you get a doll from the first run. 
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 07, 2013, 06:34:36 PM
This is in my bedroom.  ($#@! autofocus digital cameras make it look like I'm a lousy photographer, when I've done it for part of a living,) but here.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 07, 2013, 06:59:13 PM
My ex-husband used to get freaked out by all my dolls... Said he couldn't stand having all those little people watching him all the time....
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 07, 2013, 07:00:30 PM
I, on the other hand, am used to living with a LOT of dolls, and barely knew that doll cabinet was there...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 07, 2013, 10:02:50 PM
...I have a theory regarding girls and dolls...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on September 07, 2013, 11:26:43 PM
I used to be surrounded by dolls. Now I've got stuffed animals everywhere.

The bunny in the attached photo is Ben from the Fuzzy Knights webcomic. I've got Mossfoot and Violet, gave up on finding Target, and can't find exactly the right Benjamin Bunny. I asked the FK creator for information, and this Ben is approximately 8" tall (not sure if that's from the table to the tips of his ears). I've found all kinds of variations of this rabbit, but never this exact one in the picture. It's driving me nuts!
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 08, 2013, 10:50:24 PM
Here in the computer room with me:

(I made and painted the dog mask, BTW.)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 09, 2013, 05:34:24 AM
I did these pictures of a character in the style of a Ball-Jointed Doll at the request of a friend. People complained they were too creepy...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 09, 2013, 07:20:00 AM
You do some amazing stuff, Mylochka.

I wouldn't call those creepy. I would say they have creepy eye make-up. Halloween at work aboard the Enterprise.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 09, 2013, 04:50:00 PM
Thanks!  I liked them, myself...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 10, 2013, 12:28:30 AM
A couple doll repaints I saw on DA today:
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 10, 2013, 01:00:41 AM
I like the redhead.

The blonde doll on the other hand....  might have to sleep in the safe with the door locked.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 10, 2013, 01:37:25 AM
You'd just end up trapped in there with her.  You know how it is with those evil dolls...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 10, 2013, 10:10:05 PM
The Eat Your Heart Out Doll Tour continues - from the next room.  All doll clothes homemade, and I don't think you can see them in this shot, but there's three chainmail-wearing barbarians I made the real chainmail and real (dull) swords for...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 11, 2013, 07:26:56 PM
Again, I have a theory about girls and dolls.  :)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on September 11, 2013, 07:29:24 PM
What is your theory?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 11, 2013, 07:40:07 PM
Girls like dolls.

-That joke cracks my 73 year-old mother (and you've seen part of her bookshelf, but not the shelves in her sewing room) up.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on September 11, 2013, 09:42:56 PM
Girls do like dolls, but they also like other things. I had a lot of "boys' toys" when I was a kid - trucks, trains, and a wind-up caterpillar tractor that shot sparks when it moved... I got that thing for Christmas when I was about 3, and it scared the hell out of me.




Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 11, 2013, 09:46:04 PM
I wish I remembered what that robot toy that would swivel and fire its chest weapon every few steps was called - it looked awesome in the dark back in the late 60s.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 12, 2013, 04:29:54 AM
Came across an unexpected reference to dolls today.  Other translations of the Popol Vuh (the Creation story of the Maya) call the second unsuccessful race of beings the Wooden Men.  The translation I happened across today called them "doll-people."  Here is the passage:

And as the words are spoken, it is done.
The doll-people are made
with faces carved from wood.
But they have no blood, no sweat.
They have nothing in their minds.
They have no respect for Heart-of-Sky.
They are just walking about,
But they accomplish nothing.

"This is not what I had in mind,"
says Heart-of-Sky.
And so it is decided to destroy
these wooden people.

Hurricane makes a great rain.
It rains all day and rains all night.
There is a terrible flood
and the earth is blackened.
The creatures of the forest
come into the homes of the doll-people.

"You have chased us from our homes
so now we will take yours,"
they growl.
And their dogs and turkeys cry out,
"You have abused us
so now we shall eat you!"
Even their pots and grinding stones speak,
"We will burn you and pound on you
just as you have done to us!"

The wooden people scatter into the forest.
Their faces are crushed,
and they are turned into monkeys.
And this is why monkeys look like humans.
They are what is left of what came before,
an experiment in human design.

Unrelated to this, but still doll and Maya related -- Contemporary Mayans still make and use "worry dolls" that are supposed to listen to your problems as you sleep and help free you from worry.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 12, 2013, 04:45:11 AM
That was a great epic story.


As for the picture-  This is proof that people create  dolls with the intent of them stealing our thoughts! ;aaa
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 12, 2013, 02:52:17 PM
Tee hee... And the doll in the picture doesn't look like she thinks much of your thoughts either...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 13, 2013, 01:56:03 AM
While I was looking for my Photoshop disks yesterday, I came across this in the closet of the computer room...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 13, 2013, 11:51:36 PM
Is it the viewing angle or is that rainbow colored furby look like it is about to jump at you. :)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 14, 2013, 01:10:58 AM
Furbys is creepy.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 14, 2013, 01:46:54 AM
Furbys are creepy and annoying.
Edited: Changes in italics

I think you missed one quality of furbys(ies?)

Annoying original Furby sounds:

YUMMMM!
Me love you!
Feed me!

Warning: Product can go off in the middle of the night and might not stop until you turn it off...or throw it out a window, smash it to pieces or in general destroy it.  ;)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 14, 2013, 01:59:13 AM
There are so many dolls.... :o ???.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 14, 2013, 02:46:36 AM
Furbys creep the dog right the intercourse out.  It's pretty funny.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 14, 2013, 08:01:49 PM
The Raggedy Annie is older than most of the members here...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: JarlWolf on September 14, 2013, 08:18:15 PM
The Raggedy Anne as a doll is probably older then everyone here, present speaker included.

Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 14, 2013, 08:33:09 PM
Yeah, I think the design is Victorian - the doll pictured is only about 40.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 15, 2013, 01:40:37 AM
Furbys are creepy and annoying.
Edited: Changes in italics

I think you missed one quality of furbys(ies?)

Annoying original Furby sounds:

YUMMMM!
Me love you!
Feed me!

Warning: Product can go off in the middle of the night and might not stop until you turn it off...or throw it out a window, smash it to pieces or in general destroy it.  ;)

Those blasted Furbies...!  I only saved them so I could give them to my niece when she got old enough to enjoy particularly annoying toys... Her parents had better watch out!
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 15, 2013, 01:42:29 AM
The Eat Your Heart Out Doll Tour continues - from the next room.  All doll clothes homemade, and I don't think you can see them in this shot, but there's three chainmail-wearing barbarians I made the real chainmail and real (dull) swords for...

I've got to hide that blasted camera -- This is starting to look like a Mattel-sponsored episode of "Hoarders"....
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 15, 2013, 02:23:40 AM
While it is  heavily weighted toward Mattel ( which I don't find creepy ),
I figure whatever fits in shelves and display cases is a legitimate collection.

As long as we don't see evidence of piles of dolls, or boxes of dismembered doll parts, or furniture buried in dolls, the car full of dolls sitting outside the garage full of dolls or dolls on the floor... not what I'd call a horde ....yet.

Likewise, if we don't see the pictures of the doll graves in the back yard, the doll diaramas, or adult family members taking dolls for a stroll.... not an obsession.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 15, 2013, 02:25:16 AM
 :-[ M, I'm embarrassed for you now...   :-[
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 15, 2013, 02:29:36 AM
:-[ M, I'm embarrassed for you now...   :-[

As if.... No, wait! Don't go into that closet! Put that camera down!!  Eeeeek!
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 15, 2013, 09:15:33 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 15, 2013, 09:30:12 PM
My ex-husband used to get freaked out by all my dolls... Said he couldn't stand having all those little people watching him all the time....

Well, if they're on the ubiquitous side...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 16, 2013, 12:40:17 AM
A poorly lit house + lots of dolls= Creepy. You never know what might appear. :)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 16, 2013, 12:57:27 AM
Yeah, like this....
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 16, 2013, 01:05:47 AM
My reaction to something like that would probably be:

1. :o
2. ;aaa
3. :stop:
4.  :ok:
6. ;aaa and  saying ;jesus while running out of that house immediately.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on September 16, 2013, 01:26:18 AM
I just visited the old Doll Palace site. Since we're doing goth stuff...


Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 16, 2013, 02:28:16 AM
My ex-husband used to get freaked out by all my dolls... Said he couldn't stand having all those little people watching him all the time....

Well, if they're on the ubiquitous side...

As you can see, they kinda are in my current dwelling....
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 16, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
In one of the bathrooms - I assume a cleaning has happened...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 17, 2013, 12:06:00 AM
In one of the bathrooms - I assume a cleaning has happened...
Or maybe it was a partial cleansing of mattel barbie products in a sink.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 17, 2013, 01:11:33 AM
Or maybe they all needed to pee.  You know how girls go to the bathroom together, though this many is a bit ridiculous.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 17, 2013, 04:04:28 AM
I just visited the old Doll Palace site. Since we're doing goth stuff...
Cute outfit.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on September 17, 2013, 04:59:09 AM
Thanks. There are some really creepy possibilities there...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 17, 2013, 07:22:03 PM
Livin' large and logical, yo.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on September 17, 2013, 07:38:44 PM
Here's some of the works from the halloween group.

Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 18, 2013, 04:13:43 AM
In one of the bathrooms - I assume a cleaning has happened...


This is a "Before" picture.  I get dolls like this from the local thrift store then re-paint, re-dress, and sometimes re-hair them.  There was a 1/2 price sale going on at the thrift store (I didn't know that ever happened) and well, I got a little over enthusiastic.  I found this video using watercolor pencils and pastels to re-paint dolls' faces instead of the more usual acrylics.  Am anxious to give it a try now that I've got a sink full of fashion victims... uh, I mean, makeover candidates....

Faceup Stories: 03 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkEuLL1Eb9o#ws)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 18, 2013, 04:15:28 AM
Here's some of the works from the halloween group.

Oh, my Lord...! How big is that doll?  Is that a person in a costume?  Eeeeeeeek!!!
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2013, 04:19:13 AM
This is a "Before" picture.  I get dolls like this from the local thrift store then re-paint, re-dress, and sometimes re-hair them.  There was a 1/2 price sale going on at the thrift store (I didn't know that ever happened) and well, I got a little over enthusiastic.
That's the half-off thrift store score?  Pretty good condition for a sack o' thrift store dolls at regular price - I didn't notice a single bad haircut or any crayon/marker marks.  The dresses are even in decent shape.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 18, 2013, 04:21:11 AM
Some of them, yeah.  Yes, a banner day at the Thrift...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 18, 2013, 04:33:04 AM
Livin' large and logical, yo.

So much bling in that photo. What is a horse doll doing on a dresser with hopefully fake jewelery? It looks like a doll horde or perhaps storage facility. Who knows what might jump out next ::). :)

Here's some of the works from the halloween group.



That first one could be quite disturbing...

Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 18, 2013, 04:56:22 AM
Livin' large and logical, yo.

So much bling in that photo. What is a horse doll doing on a dresser with hopefully fake jewelery? I swear it looks like doll horde or perhaps storage facility. Who knows what might jump out next ::). :)


Well, he's there because... Hmm... why did I put that horse there?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2013, 05:05:30 AM
Livin' large and logical, yo.
[Vulcan gang sign]
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: JarlWolf on September 18, 2013, 07:05:45 AM
Vulcan gangs: They rebel against illogical actions and calculate their chances for sexual reproduction if tied with currency garnered from holographic tapes.

Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2013, 09:21:14 PM
The complete mantle display...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 18, 2013, 11:02:09 PM
The complete mantle display...
At least there is, I think, a fake plant on it....
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 19, 2013, 07:19:52 PM
And a wedding doll? What's the story with that?  :o
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on September 19, 2013, 07:56:01 PM
Presumably so Barbie would have something nice to wear when she marries Ken...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 03:16:14 AM
Is that a naked barbie sitting on a pile of books on your mantle display :o? I am increasingly disturbed by some of the things that I have seen in that house.... However, you might admit, it does reflect someone's love for collecting dolls.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 03:22:06 AM
Is that a bird hiding behind the fake plant? I still think that the fake plant is one of the few things on this mantle that you might find on most mantle's. Is that mantle above a fireplace? If so, it might get very warm up there...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 20, 2013, 03:28:39 AM
Well, it would be just like one of those evil dolls to switch places with a human.

Perhaps that's not a naked Barbie at all, but some poor bride transformed on her wedding night... now trapped in a doll's body. One never really knows.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 20, 2013, 04:50:18 AM
Is that a naked barbie sitting on a pile of books on your mantle display :o? I am increasingly disturbed by some of the things that I have seen in that house.... However, you might admit, it does reflect someone's love for collecting dolls.

Well, it's not so much a mantle "display" as it is an odd collection of things I currently have sitting on my mantle until I can find an more appropriate location for them.  And no, since this is Texas and it never actually gets hot enough to require a fire, it doesn't get too hot on the mantle.  (I have candles in my fireplace instead of logs) But yes, you are right, there are two naked dolls.  Neither of them are really Barbies, so I didn't have any clothing for them readily at hand.  However, your concern has prompted me to locate a couple emergency garments that -- although not a perfect fit -- can be pressed into service to spare their plastic blushes.

The "bird" behind the plant (that everyone has correctly identified as a member of the genus "fake") is actually an oni mask that BU and I made a couple years ago.  Here it is in its unobscured glory:
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2013, 04:51:58 AM
NICE.

Note that there's also books and pictures up there...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 20, 2013, 04:53:08 AM
The bride Barbie is actually a bride Barbie.  She and her bridesmaid were part of my half-price thrift store haul from the other day.  I ended up getting them -- clothed, clean, and lovely -- for $3 each.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 20, 2013, 05:00:34 AM
NICE.

Note that there's also books and pictures up there...


Someone now is going to doubtlessly point out that I have neglected to put a face on one of these dolls.  Yes. I am aware of this.  Have purchased art materials for fancy face-making as per this video:

Faceup Stories: 22 {Monster High Draculaura} (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zvXud_AuMw#ws)

Will keep you updated as progress is made.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 20, 2013, 05:05:49 AM
Vulcan gangs: They rebel against illogical actions and calculate their chances for sexual reproduction if tied with currency garnered from holographic tapes.
Tru dat.  They're always turning up on the Spmaury Spovitch show flashing their gang signs and saying "You have no knowledge of my idiosyncratic motivations! Don't make me bust a photon in your posterior!"
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 05:07:06 AM
Half price thrift store shopping....not bad. Dolls for $3 each :). Savings always make me happy. What do you do with the dolls once you are done with them? I can see some of them are displayed or in storage awaiting some purpose unknown to  me but you cannot keep all of them, can you  ???. Some guesses at what the dolls are for:
(a) They are made because you are professional artists and sell them to clients.
(b) You do this as part of a from home business.
(c) You do it as part of a major hobby that you enjoy.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2013, 05:10:57 AM
Livin' large and logical, yo.
[Vulcan gang sign]
(http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4298.0;attach=7365)
Vulcan gangs: They rebel against illogical actions and calculate their chances for sexual reproduction if tied with currency garnered from holographic tapes.

Tru dat.  They're always turning up on the Spmaury Spovitch show flashing their gang signs and saying "You have no knowledge of my idiosyncratic motivations! Don't make me bust a photon in your posterior!"
Correction:

"You have no knowledge of myself or my idiosyncratic motivations!  You have no knowledge of myself or my idiosyncratic motivations!  I do not wish to injure you, so do not make me bust a photon in your posterior!"
[a gesture that is not the peace sign]
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 20, 2013, 06:24:14 AM
Half price thrift store shopping....not bad. Dolls for $3 each :). Savings always make me happy. What do you do with the dolls once you are done with them? I can see some of them are displayed or in storage awaiting some purpose unknown to  me but you cannot keep all of them, can you  ???. Some guesses at what the dolls are for:
(a) They are made because you are professional artists and sell them to clients.
(b) You do this as part of a from home business.
(c) You do it as part of a major hobby that you enjoy.

I used to sell customized dolls on ebay.  Played a significant role in helping me pay off my student loans.  Thinking about getting back into customizing to supplement the old income a little...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 20, 2013, 06:25:27 AM
Livin' large and logical, yo.
[Vulcan gang sign]
(http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4298.0;attach=7365)
Vulcan gangs: They rebel against illogical actions and calculate their chances for sexual reproduction if tied with currency garnered from holographic tapes.

Tru dat.  They're always turning up on the Spmaury Spovitch show flashing their gang signs and saying "You have no knowledge of my idiosyncratic motivations! Don't make me bust a photon in your posterior!"
Correction:

"You have no knowledge of myself or my idiosyncratic motivations!  You have no knowledge of myself or my idiosyncratic motivations!  I do not wish to injure you, so do not make me bust a photon in your posterior!"
[a gesture that is not the peace sign]


I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 20, 2013, 06:31:31 AM
Here's a picture of a fabulous Day of the Dead repaint of Monster High Doll that I found on DA.  Now this is the caliber of work I wish I could do...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2013, 06:42:24 AM
THAT is finely crafted.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: JarlWolf on September 20, 2013, 06:03:34 PM
It's interesting what sort of re-texturing and repainting can do to dolls. My daughters used to have a few and I remember that my daughters had this one doll they always tugged along with them as kids, and it got really worn down and the paint chipped off of it. So me and my wife took it and then we repainted it, and my daughters really liked it, felt like it was brand new again. (My daughters, especially my eldest was a bit of a tomboy. That's what happens when you get someone like me parenting  ;lol)

They are all grown up now, and I have yet to see any grand daughters, just grandsons so far. Wouldn't mind having a grand daughter or two though.

Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 20, 2013, 06:40:09 PM
THAT is finely crafted.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 08:03:16 PM
THAT is finely crafted.

Agreed.

Likewise.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 09:26:52 PM
Well, it would be just like one of those evil dolls to switch places with a human.

Perhaps that's not a naked Barbie at all, but some poor bride transformed on her wedding night... now trapped in a doll's body. One never really knows.

One day, perhaps someone will discover that BUncle has been transformed/replaced by a doll that looks just like him :'(.

(I am joking, but you never know....)
:D
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: JarlWolf on September 20, 2013, 09:48:19 PM
A doll that looks like BUncle?

(http://guywhotypes.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/bearded-doll.png?w=590&h=413)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 10:00:17 PM
A doll that looks like BUncle?

(http://guywhotypes.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/bearded-doll.png?w=590&h=413)


You have found a relatively good doll replacement/imposter of BUncle.....
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2013, 10:04:32 PM
A doll that looks like BUncle?

(http://guywhotypes.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/bearded-doll.png?w=590&h=413)


You have found a relatively good doll replacement/imposter of BUncle.....
I will never have tattoos and haven't had my hair that short since the eighties.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 10:07:57 PM
A doll that looks like BUncle?

(http://guywhotypes.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/bearded-doll.png?w=590&h=413)


You have found a relatively good doll replacement/imposter of BUncle.....
I will never have tattoos and haven't had my hair that short since the eighties.


That is why I said "relatively good". I knew you did not have short hair and probably do not have tattoos. Besides, I did not pick out the picture....
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
Still, I blame YOU. :D
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 10:26:53 PM
Still, I blame YOU. :D
I do not like the tone of that post and grinning smiley.... :(

You see, there is no way that anyone can find a perfect doll replacement for you. I guess we settled on the second best thing we could find. Nobody would be any the wiser if we did some cosmetic work to the doll. The first thing that the doll would need is the removal or covering up of the tattoos. This could be achieved by dressing it correctly. Second, we would need to make the doll's hair the right length and color. We might be able to do this by removing the old hair and replacing it with hair that is the right length and color. Or perhaps you could dye the fabric hair carefully and simply add fabric extensions of the correct color to the doll.  ;lol
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2013, 10:27:50 PM
 :D


Another shelf...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 10:40:37 PM
:D


Another shelf...

I spy a ornament on the shelf with a simplistic drawing of two people and that says Aunt K. I bet that K stands for Mylochka's real name.....

Here are some guesses based off of websites I have looked at that give popular female and uni-sex names that start with K:

Katherine
Katie
Kailey
Kairi
Kansas
Kaycee
Kacy
Kaitlyn


I love guessing games!
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 10:42:46 PM
One of those dolls has a mean look on its face...
I bet she has just had a bad time at some dancing social event.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 20, 2013, 10:47:21 PM
Aunt K has a right arm like Popeye the sailor man, or an oyster shucker! Don't mess with her!
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 10:49:41 PM
Those dolls are everywhere in that house! At least I have not seen  :look: any creepy china dolls or life like and sized mannequins  :relief:.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 10:52:46 PM
Aunt K has a right arm like Popeye the sailor man, or an oyster shucker! Don't mess with her!
To be honest, I do like messing with people occasionally. Besides, what is the worst she could do from over the internet..... ???
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: JarlWolf on September 20, 2013, 10:59:25 PM
Power type a really mean message is what.

Or maybe she is telepathic and can punch you square in the jaw through your computer screen.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 11:07:17 PM
I think the danger has been extremely and grossly over-exaggerated.  ;buttdance
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 20, 2013, 11:10:52 PM
I am just asking for a verbal punishment now from whoever Aunt K is :). However, my intial suspicion is still present about that Aunt K being Mylochka.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2013, 11:11:32 PM
Degenerate.

She's Aunt Kaka, because she's such a crappy aunt.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 20, 2013, 11:33:25 PM
A doll that looks like BUncle?

(http://guywhotypes.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/bearded-doll.png?w=590&h=413)


Very close! Very close!   :D :D
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 20, 2013, 11:38:04 PM
Beware the wrath of ol' Aunt K, for she has powers and can call spirits from the vasty deep..
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: JarlWolf on September 21, 2013, 12:13:22 AM
Aunt Kraken?   ;lol


Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 21, 2013, 12:48:54 AM
Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:  Kroll!  :danc:
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 21, 2013, 02:24:10 AM
I think I've been Krick Krolled...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 22, 2013, 08:05:58 AM
Mylochka had a doctor appointment early this week and came home with this:
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on September 22, 2013, 08:28:15 AM
The most I ever got from a doctor was a jelly bean or lollipop.  :-\
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 22, 2013, 08:30:26 AM
I scored a few Captain Crunch-level toys.  -Into my teens.  I grew up in doctors' offices..
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 22, 2013, 08:35:43 PM
Mylochka had a doctor appointment early this week and came home with this:

Present for my niece.  She's into Disney Princesses right now... or at least she was two minutes ago...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 22, 2013, 08:40:48 PM
Starting on a Doll repaint project.  BU suggested I do a play-by-play for this thread.  The doll is a Madame Alexander "Alexandra" doll.  I bought her with the paint removed for about $9 on Ebay.  She looked like this when she was new.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 22, 2013, 08:41:38 PM
And here she is with the face paint removed.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 22, 2013, 08:43:47 PM
Instead of painting her with acrylics as I've done in the past, I'm experimenting with a technique that uses chalk pastels and colored pencils.  Here's a start at some shading with the pastels in red and rust.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 22, 2013, 08:57:34 PM
More pastels...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 22, 2013, 09:08:08 PM
and some more...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 22, 2013, 09:20:32 PM
Roughing in the eyes...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 22, 2013, 09:57:27 PM
Nice with the blush around the nostrils, but I'd wipe away about 2/3 of it from the bridge of the nose.  Even small real noses don't have that, although I can think of a number of comic book artists who paint/color there own work a lot, and end up making all their Caucasian characters look like caricatures of Irish drunks...

The shading under the eyes is an exquisite touch of realism, but watch letting it trail off to the sides - real under-eye coloration stays under the eyes.

The blue eyes you roughed in do everything to turn it into a face, and not a mockery of a face.  They make a really distinct difference from the earlier shots.  This is heading towards a Taylor Swift sort of attractive, with lots of personality.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 22, 2013, 10:06:25 PM
Thanks for the feedback.  I'm doing for a young, freckle-faced complexion, so that's where I was going with the shading on the nose.

Here's with some watercolor pencils added for definition...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 22, 2013, 10:25:31 PM
I like the freckles.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 22, 2013, 11:30:08 PM
Me too!
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 22, 2013, 11:45:18 PM
That's pretty cool and very beautiful.


Of course, I find a creep factor in wiping off a face and replacing it with something more human.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 22, 2013, 11:59:55 PM
That's pretty cool and very beautiful.


Of course, I find a creep factor in wiping off a face and replacing it with something more human.

Thanks!

There are days when I need to wipe off my own face and replace it with something more human...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on September 23, 2013, 01:31:07 AM
I'm in awe. My grandmother would be too, if she could have seen this. She was an artist and dollmaker, and she would have been amazed.


Have you ever thought of doing Ruth and Jilla dolls?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 23, 2013, 01:45:49 AM
Hmmm.... You know, I bet I could get Monster High Dolls with the right base skin colors... Hmmm......
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Arbee on September 23, 2013, 07:00:41 AM
That... that is pretty awesome.  I wish I had that kind of skill with colors, haha.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 23, 2013, 05:43:13 PM
A new one...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 24, 2013, 08:30:45 PM
For context alone, check out this shot of Buster's Grandma's piano.  (Note the family pics along the top - it means she has a family, not that she's a replicant.  I know everyone pictured who was still alive in the 70's; they're real, and really relatives.  Dekert had a family, is all.)

Mylochka came by a love of dolls honestly...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 25, 2013, 06:43:28 PM
In the entryway of Mom's house.  There are also books on the shelf below the frame...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 25, 2013, 06:59:21 PM
It's definitely not a dull house...  :D
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 25, 2013, 07:03:48 PM
You should see her sewing room.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 25, 2013, 07:24:03 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 26, 2013, 12:08:01 AM
:-X

;...
 :)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 26, 2013, 05:20:44 PM
Here's a new one flanked by Black Butler dolls.  Uno, if you did anime, I'd be curious what you thought of Black Butler.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 26, 2013, 05:24:48 PM
They remind me of the late MJ...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 26, 2013, 05:36:34 PM
Yeah; there's no accounting for tastes.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2013, 06:44:08 PM
I'm out of doll pictures for now - I found one of the chainmail barbarian Barbies and a chainmailed Intruderman, but that would be stuff gotten out and posed, not stuff already laying around on display.  Likewise some Star Trek dolls...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on September 28, 2013, 06:55:50 PM
Who cares if it's posed or just lying around?  :)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2013, 07:00:05 PM
True enough.  I was sorta amusedly demonstrating the World Of Dolls I live in, but that's not the actual theme of the thread.  I'll go find the camera...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2013, 07:22:31 PM
Well, For Great Justice, here's a doll that belongs to me - I actually own quite a few, but this is the only one I know of that's not back in America.  As you can see the chainmail is real chainmail.  There's at least a barbarian Ken and Barbie around here that we haven't been able to find yet, and the swords, which are also real.  Not much of a trick to hammering a sword blade out of a nail, though smoothing and polishing to make it nice is something else entirely.

You should see my human scale chainmail - that took a little more work, but that stuff's all back in America, too.

The caveman is an original 1970's Intruderman, bad guys (from OUTER SPACE!) from the GI Joe line back when Joe was taller than Barbie.  You can see a little of the armor they came with under the chainmail.  I also have the lighter-haired Intruderman in the silver armor somewhere...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 03, 2013, 08:55:47 PM
Here is Star Trek Barbie and Ken, accompanied by Chekov from another ST doll set.  Naturally, Chekov is chained up - they happen to be on a landing party on the same planet as the chainmail barbarians, and stuff like that happens to Chekov.  A couple of Starfleet members from that planet of giants, Ensigns Barbie ("I tink I vill like this mission wery wery much," Chekov said upon being introduced) and Ken, went along as native guides.  Notice that Ensign Ken has gotten his uniform ripped during the rescue.  I believe Mom made his shirt.

Ensign Barbie is no longer paying attention to Ken, having made tentative plans to keep Chekov as her 'pocket boyfriend'.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on October 03, 2013, 10:35:52 PM
What happened to Ken's other shoe?

I have Star Trek Barbie & Ken... they're still in their box.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 03, 2013, 10:37:21 PM
It was lost in the fight, I think.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 13, 2013, 05:14:26 AM
We went to a number of antique shops and malls on our recent trip. Generally these places tend to frown on if not outright forbid picture taking....I assume it's to prevent burglary and counterfeiting.

I did manage to snap a couple of pictures of creepy dolls anyway.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 13, 2013, 05:26:30 AM
Here's the other one.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2013, 06:12:57 PM
I got Mom to take a few pictures...  Note Joan of Arc, bottom right, and her little page...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on October 15, 2013, 08:21:17 PM
Mademoiselle D'Arc had a... page... way too young for her age??!!!  :o
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2013, 08:23:52 PM
Wasn't trying for authenticity, or I'd have made her plate armor.  It's a pity you can't see more of the page - his chainmail is deliberately too long for him; it's really cute.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 17, 2013, 12:43:35 AM
Mo' of the same, but several feet over...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on October 17, 2013, 03:01:54 PM
How large are those? They look over a feet in size.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 17, 2013, 03:13:56 PM
18 inches, most of them.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: ariete on October 17, 2013, 07:46:20 PM
yet we talkin about telescopes .... ;cute
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on October 17, 2013, 07:57:14 PM
yet we talkin about telescopes .... ;cute

No, ur shoesize. :P
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on October 17, 2013, 08:19:35 PM
Uno, if you did anime, I'd be curious what you thought of Black Butler.

Is it on netflix?  Sounds familiar somehow. 

I'm kinda indifferent on anime.  I don't seek it out or deride it out of hand
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on October 17, 2013, 08:24:51 PM
Shoulda snapped a pic first...

shipped a pair of these off to California this week.  Local thrift store had them for $3, and I know too many collectors to walk away. 

http://www.livingdeaddolls.com/archive/preview.asp?main_id=ldd&sub_id=ldd-exc&name=Died+and+Doom&series=Living+Dead+Dolls+Exclusives&deathdate=8%2F9%2F1969&chipboard=As+punishment+for+the+sins+of+their+crime%2C%3Cbr+%2F%3Ethey+shall+remain+together+till+the+end+of+time.%3Cbr+%2F%3EIt+is+hereby+pronounced+that+this+bride+and+groom%2C%3Cbr+%2F%3EBe+wed+into+blasphemy+as%3Cbr+%2F%3EDied+%26+Doom.&dyk=Died+and+Doom+Tower+Records'+first+Living+Dead+Dolls+exclusive+2-pack.&msrp=%2450.00&ages=For+ages+15+and+up&description=I+hereby+certify+that+on+the+Ninth+day%3Cbr+%2F%3Eof+August%2C+1969%2C+at+12%3A01+A.M.%2C%3Cbr+%2F%3EDied+%26+Doom+have+been+pronounced+legally+deceased.%3Cbr+%2F%3E&product_id=ldd-exc-005&status=Sold+Out&units=&title=Died+and+Doom&ai=0 (http://www.livingdeaddolls.com/archive/preview.asp?main_id=ldd&sub_id=ldd-exc&name=Died+and+Doom&series=Living+Dead+Dolls+Exclusives&deathdate=8%2F9%2F1969&chipboard=As+punishment+for+the+sins+of+their+crime%2C%3Cbr+%2F%3Ethey+shall+remain+together+till+the+end+of+time.%3Cbr+%2F%3EIt+is+hereby+pronounced+that+this+bride+and+groom%2C%3Cbr+%2F%3EBe+wed+into+blasphemy+as%3Cbr+%2F%3EDied+%26+Doom.&dyk=Died+and+Doom+Tower+Records'+first+Living+Dead+Dolls+exclusive+2-pack.&msrp=%2450.00&ages=For+ages+15+and+up&description=I+hereby+certify+that+on+the+Ninth+day%3Cbr+%2F%3Eof+August%2C+1969%2C+at+12%3A01+A.M.%2C%3Cbr+%2F%3EDied+%26+Doom+have+been+pronounced+legally+deceased.%3Cbr+%2F%3E&product_id=ldd-exc-005&status=Sold+Out&units=&title=Died+and+Doom&ai=0)

Especially since, they are a little on the collector end:
http://www.amazon.com/Living-Dolls-Original-Records-Exclusive/dp/B008G8Y2CU (http://www.amazon.com/Living-Dolls-Original-Records-Exclusive/dp/B008G8Y2CU)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 17, 2013, 08:32:35 PM
(http://www.livingdeaddolls.com/archive/photos/Living+Dead+Dolls+Exclusives/ldd-exc-005.jpg)     
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 18, 2013, 09:19:34 PM
More from Mom...

She's not a great photographer, but did make the majority of the dresses on her dolls...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 20, 2013, 12:42:07 AM
A new shelf since I left...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on October 20, 2013, 01:26:53 AM
More from Mom...

She's not a great photographer, but did make the majority of the dresses on her dolls...
The red sari on the top shelf is really pretty.

I remember how jealous I was of my grandmother's dolls... I'm the one who joined a medieval re-creation group (SCA), but the dolls are the ones she made medieval costumes for.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 20, 2013, 11:07:02 PM
I don't know how a digital camera did that double exposure thing...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: JarlWolf on October 21, 2013, 02:49:55 AM
That's trippy...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on October 21, 2013, 03:04:37 AM
I don't know how a digital camera did that double exposure thing...

Perhaps a malfunction in the electronic relay that signals the shutter to open and close caused it to open and close twice? Also, the malfunction could have been caused by a bad connection.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 21, 2013, 03:45:20 AM
Obviously, the dolls didn't know they were being photographed, so they were dashing to return to position, "Toy Story" style.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on October 21, 2013, 04:05:17 AM
It's a low light thing.  I've got a cool one where the kids are ghosts somewhere. 
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on October 21, 2013, 02:47:42 PM
Enter at your own risk, I think I found the most creepy doll related pics ever. 

http://www.ufunk.net/en/photos/street-apes-jakarta/ (http://www.ufunk.net/en/photos/street-apes-jakarta/)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 21, 2013, 09:57:37 PM
...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 23, 2013, 04:47:48 AM
Back to the sewing room...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on October 23, 2013, 02:13:09 PM
It is a literal army of dolls...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2013, 02:04:44 AM
Naw - only Joan and her page are in the army; the rest are civilians.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on October 25, 2013, 02:06:43 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on December 09, 2013, 10:51:14 PM
Out shopping for Talia's Christmas. 

I know Mylochka's talked about repainting Monster High Dolls, but the new Fairy Tale High dolls are probably a better target for that kind of thing.

They are essentially Monster High, only "not creepy". 

Not that creepy is a problem for Talia. 

I also saw the creepiest dolls in a retail store. 

http://www.mystixx.com/ (http://www.mystixx.com/)

2 faced dolls...I'm not sure how you flip the faces, turn the wig around or what, but 1 normal face, one monster face. 

They had vampires and shape changers, but it was the zombies that were just WRONG. 

(Caveat, I have not actually watched this)
Mystixx Zombies Kalani, Talin & Sive Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD-eh469fA4#ws)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on December 10, 2013, 04:30:47 AM
I saw the Fairy Tale High dolls the last time I was at Wally-World and facepalmed appropriately.  If only I had waited!  I bought used Monster High dolls a while back.  Just haven't felt well enough to work on them yet....
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on December 14, 2013, 06:31:13 PM


I also saw the creepiest dolls in a retail store. 

http://www.mystixx.com/ (http://www.mystixx.com/)

2 faced dolls...I'm not sure how you flip the faces, turn the wig around or what, but 1 normal face, one monster face. 

They had vampires and shape changers, but it was the zombies that were just WRONG. 



Oh. I looked at the site. They're two-faced in a god Janus kind of way. Just turn the head around backwards while holding on to the wig. The wigs pop on and off, so you can change them.

Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 13, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
I was on my semi-annual antiquing trip and discretely took a few pictures.

Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 13, 2014, 09:38:52 PM
Where's this?  I'll give Mylochka a heads-up.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 13, 2014, 09:46:22 PM
They were seen in various antique malls in Pennsylvania.

#1 is supposed to be an Amish child.

Clowns have a certain creepiness because they are disguised, so they are probably up to no god, or they are hiding from the law.  Clown dolls have a certain compounding effect.

I have a new theory about Cupies. They are actually imps. This one is striking an "Elf on the Shelf" pose.


You know how some primitive culture believed that a picture or photo could steal your soul?
I think that's part of the creep factor. Sometimes dolls look like trapped pieces of a person's soul. Maybe they switched bodies...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 13, 2014, 09:48:04 PM
Okay. The Enterprise looks weird cruising below the doll shelves.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 13, 2014, 09:55:22 PM
Good to know.  -And agreed that clowns are "probably up to no god".

Some manner of homunculi are present in the mythology of virtually all cultures - interesting intersection with dolls and the Uncanny Valley effect, I think.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 13, 2014, 10:51:35 PM
Grrrr. Feel free to point out my errors.

There were more dolls, I just tried to get the standouts.

I missed one. This was supposed to be an effigy of a university Chancellor, as I recall. They probably did want to steal his soul.

Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 13, 2014, 11:36:00 PM
It's an excellent error, if you think about it.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 28, 2014, 05:36:48 AM
I present Miss Angie Ball.

Now that I'm back in America, we can score some good pictures of the hordes in Mamma's sewing room.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on July 30, 2014, 05:47:19 PM
http://www.today.com/news/mystery-dolls-left-doorsteps-california-homes-solved-1D79975874 (http://www.today.com/news/mystery-dolls-left-doorsteps-california-homes-solved-1D79975874)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 31, 2014, 02:31:40 AM
&^%$#@! digital cameras; never in focus w/o the flash on.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 01, 2014, 04:01:17 AM
Better, but not much...

All recent acquisitions.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on September 01, 2014, 04:59:28 AM
Your hands seem unsteady.  Better quit smoking so much crack...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 01, 2014, 05:25:32 PM
Why does the one in back have a shield and a cape?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 01, 2014, 05:43:20 PM
You have to be ready for anything, selling crack to hippies...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 01, 2014, 11:13:43 PM
26 pictures, I took Thursday, and this is the only one that came out in focus...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 02, 2014, 03:33:13 AM
I got a set taken, that's actually pretty much in focus, of everything Mom's got out.

Can't wait until Mylochka finally gets moved in, and gets all her dollys displayed...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 02, 2014, 07:01:42 PM
I got some close-ups of Joan and her squire, Pugsly...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 02, 2014, 08:50:29 PM
Again, I did not make Joan, Pugsly or his helmet, but I did make the chainmail, sword, knife and shield...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: JarlWolf on September 03, 2014, 12:52:28 PM
 ;lol

All they need now is two ponies or horses... I am surprised she doesn't have two knights accompanying her, Sir Metz and Sir Bertrand. Maybe just have them as little puppets or something  :danc:
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 03, 2014, 02:12:37 PM
The current piano lineup.  Note the pictures of Buster on the wall.  Also, one of my chess trophies to the left.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 03, 2014, 07:27:05 PM
Looks like its a hazard to play the piano at house BUncle. :o
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 03, 2014, 07:30:24 PM
That piano is about 100 years old, a family heirloom, and it's fairly in tune.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 03, 2014, 07:47:20 PM
So the shout "doll's away" is sometimes heard in the BUncle Residence?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 03, 2014, 08:01:45 PM
No, it's Mom's house, she likes dolls -I know you're shocked to hear that- and they never go away.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 03, 2014, 08:17:18 PM
No, it's Mom's house, she likes dolls -I know you're shocked to hear that- and they never go away.

Perhaps one day I'll tell you what kind of child toys I still like at my semi-advanced age. :-\


EDITED: for BUncle's consciousness.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 03, 2014, 08:18:48 PM
Don't be discusting.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 03, 2014, 08:45:45 PM
What?! :o
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 03, 2014, 08:57:00 PM
There are ladies among the membership.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 03, 2014, 09:00:43 PM
Oh boy, what a naughty mind. :shame:

Better now with the edit?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 03, 2014, 09:10:36 PM
 :P

 ;lol
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 04, 2014, 02:33:47 AM
Nice knife and sword. That chain mail must have been a pain to make.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 04, 2014, 02:39:16 AM
Literally.  You wouldn't believe the callus that builds up on your fingers after a month or two of chainmail-making.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 04, 2014, 02:58:38 AM
I mean, in the mid-90s, when I was working on human-scale mail with 10-gage wire, I swear I had a callus about a quarter-inch thick on one finger on my right hand.  Just this dinky 16-gage like Joan is wearing will give you a blister in a day if you're not callused-up and/or careful.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 04, 2014, 03:00:48 AM
...Blacksmithing, like hammering out nails into swords or when I made my helmet, on the other hand, mostly wracks up your elbow and/or shoulder...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 04, 2014, 08:05:07 AM
...Blacksmithing, like hammering out nails into swords or when I made my helmet, on the other hand, mostly wracks up your elbow and/or shoulder...

So that's how you made the knife and sword? Cool!

I did some when I was young and healed fast, but more of a wrought -iron kind of thing. I think it was mostly wrist stress, but my wrists notable for being small and limber.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 04, 2014, 02:31:32 PM
Yeah - nails, and a lot of hammering.  Those are real, except I didn't put edges on them.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 04, 2014, 06:17:00 PM
A wide shot of most of the dolls in the living room...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 04, 2014, 06:20:40 PM
How many books were displaced when the dolls moved in? :D
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 04, 2014, 06:31:14 PM
Buster's Daddy built the wall shelf about 10 years ago; many of the dolls have been there all along, and no books were displaced.

We could use a lot more bookshelves, actually, just for the books...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 05, 2014, 06:12:28 PM
The shelf at the end of the hall, in focus this time.  I made the white Olmec head on the bottom shelf -- years before I ever met Petek.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 06, 2014, 05:58:09 PM
Momma's room.

These things are everywhere.

All those Native American girls on top are blocking an excellent portrait of me and Buster's Daddy on the left of Buster, right.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 06, 2014, 11:54:11 PM
All my wimminz wus gone when I got up this morning.  Turns out there was a doll show in Salisbury.  This happens a lot when Aunt Pokey is by for the weekend.

The new doll haul below is towards the front of the table; that's just today's addition to the last pic of the table...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 07, 2014, 03:20:06 AM
Is that Queen Lizzie?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 07, 2014, 03:23:08 AM
Yes, and sadly, she does not have 15 petticoats under that skirt.

She does not have any.  -My bet is that this oversight will be rectified soon.


If any dolls happen to tickle anyone's curiosity, I can take close-up shots and post...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 07, 2014, 03:38:16 AM
I presume that Egyptian one was Cleopatra.... we were already introduced to Joan.

Are any other Civ leaders in the collection?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 07, 2014, 03:41:40 AM
Probably.  The girl with a shield you asked about before is supposed to be Mark Antony.  There's a Cleopatra that goes with her - I don't know if you spotted her or the (Caucasian) Nefertiti on top of the piano.

Are any of those request for details shots?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 07, 2014, 04:27:12 AM
Not tonight. My wife watched the episode of "criminal minds" today in which that  insane person turned humans into marionettes by dislocating their joints and putting eye screws into their bones. I've had about as much doll creepiness as I can stand for now.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 08, 2014, 01:51:30 AM
The guest room.

-This one got rearranged since I took the picture, just this afternoon.  My work is never done.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 08, 2014, 05:29:10 PM
The top one is very pretty. She reminds me of the beautiful French Governor's daughter in Sid's Pirates!

Is that Ghengis? This collection is full of surprises.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 08, 2014, 05:42:35 PM
I do not know who he's supposed to be.

As it happens, I was looking at him yesterday.  He's all cloth - even his scimitar.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 08, 2014, 05:49:10 PM
I asked, and he's from India - Shivajee, which goggling tells me was an Indian warrior king, 1627/1630.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shivaji (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shivaji)  -It IS spelled with two 'e's on the end on the tag attached to the doll.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 08, 2014, 11:43:33 PM
On to Momma's sewing room...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 09, 2014, 09:01:57 PM
In the window immediately right of the previous.

Which of these dolls does not belong? 
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 10, 2014, 04:47:14 PM
The one with the widest skirts?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 10, 2014, 06:04:49 PM
The style's two or three decades earlier, isn't it?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 11, 2014, 02:54:35 AM
Two walls wide shot.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 11, 2014, 07:40:26 PM
Note Lord Megabyte and Hexadecimal sitting on the top shelf, Flanked by Hack and Slash.  They're mine.

On the far left end of the shelf is Supercow, sitting in profile.

Below him are three Mars Hill College girls and a Valdese High cheerleader.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 12, 2014, 06:23:39 PM
Most of these girls have their own dolls - that get pressed into service as Christmas tree ornaments every year, so they're mostly in a box somewhere.  Pity; some charm is added, seeing the dolls holding their own little dolls.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 13, 2014, 03:58:03 PM
Back to the dining room, top corner of the shelf next to the piano.  Also present are pictures of both my grampas, several casting of sculptures I did of Buster, and another copy of the Olmec head, this one in clear resin, and a Barbie bust I did, likewise in blue.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 13, 2014, 08:50:02 PM
And who's the black&white doll couple at the center stage of the top shelf in this latest picture?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 13, 2014, 09:20:51 PM
Mylochka might know...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 13, 2014, 10:45:00 PM
Maw sez that is supposed to be Doris Day and Rock Hudson - maybe from a scene in Pillow Talk.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 14, 2014, 10:11:16 AM
Doris Day I heard of. Rock Huston.... :dunno:
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 14, 2014, 12:01:18 PM
She's  ;leia's mom, for one thing.

He was the first major American celebrity to die of AIDS.  -Back when he was making movies with Doris Day, circa 1960, he was famous as the most beautiful man alive.  He and Day made a number of comedies together.

Reportedly, many of his ex wives and girlfriends found out he was gay when he was dead, and were astonished.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 14, 2014, 06:52:40 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NWpQsCNVe7c/T9YdPrhtxiI/AAAAAAAAajE/illjwgtiCHg/s1600/martian-chronicles_crew4.jpg)

That's him on the right in The Martian Chronicles miniseries, 1980.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 14, 2014, 09:32:05 PM
Moving on to the next section to the left.

On the top row is a line of dolls for 'tweens, Only Hearts Club.  Simple cloth bodies on wire frames, they come dressed like normal girls, 10-13, and neither slutty nor bratty-looking.  You just don't see decent stuff like that marketed to girls that age much anymore.  And they're adorable.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 15, 2014, 03:34:43 PM
This one's mostly notable for the prominent photo of Buster's Grampa -he had a lazy eye for 40 years, and never got in the habit of cooperating with having his picture taken, so good ones of him are rare- and part of Momma's miniature tea set collection at bottom.

You can't see it very well in this, but on the next-to-bottom shelf, in front to the left, is a casting of a piece I did for Mylochka of her dog Diego  ;realdog laying head-to-tail against Momma's dog Polly.  Alas, neither is with us anymore.

Obviously, Mother is rather fond of nick-nacks...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 16, 2014, 12:31:32 AM
How about a close up of your dog sculpture?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 16, 2014, 12:39:47 AM
Okaydoke.  Hang on a few minutes...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 16, 2014, 01:13:04 AM
Polly really did lay that way.  The piece benefitted from a good paint job by Mom.  The long end of the base is slightly longer than the palm of my hand, but only barely.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 16, 2014, 02:09:34 AM
Looks good. My dog likes to lay like that sometimes, too.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 16, 2014, 02:22:01 AM
Detail work is tough at that scale, lemme tell you.  The ears were murder, and I never did get the legs quite to my satisfaction.  It didn't help that I wasn't looking at photo references as I went.  Pretty good likenesses, considering.

I've been up against the same thing recently - one of the little dolls Mom came home with a few weeks ago was short an arm -cost 25 cents- and the sculpy was too soft to do nice proportioning/detail on an arm half the length of my pinky.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 16, 2014, 04:46:35 PM
Olivia is an interesting case - several times, I've bought kits at somewhere like Hobby Lobby, that are a head and hands, and you're supposed to make a cloth body and do the rest yourself.  She's one of those.

I've actually got a mold for the head of a Buster doll made for quite a few years now, but never done anything with it.  I have a vague idea of a sawdust-glue mix for the casting, that we can paint and glaze like an old-fashioned doll.  It's really the materials issue that's held me up.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 17, 2014, 09:08:34 PM
I can think of a few individual dolls not yet pictured, but this mostly covers it for now for this house...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on September 18, 2014, 05:19:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWWSp2eEf1k#t=57 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWWSp2eEf1k#t=57)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 18, 2014, 05:15:05 PM
That was the most awesome Barbie ever!

I think I want to see a companion piece- Ken Scissorhands!
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 21, 2014, 03:10:16 AM
Mom has been working on Elizabeth...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 22, 2014, 01:37:34 AM
First, the Elizabeth I Barbie, as Rusty spotted...

The hairdo looks vaguely like something Liz might have worn - but not one any of us can recall, and she's a favored historical figure of all three of us.  Glenda Jackson left quite an impression.

So Momma redid her hair, for a start.  Other improvements as they happen.

-This sort of thing is frequent around here.-
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 23, 2014, 09:38:25 PM
Is it long work making a new doll from scratch?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 23, 2014, 09:40:18 PM
Depends on the doll - sometimes, Mom didn't set out to make something difficult/complicated in the first place.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 23, 2014, 09:41:18 PM
Depends on the doll - sometimes, Mom didn't set out to make something difficult/complicated in the first place.

Btw, any plans to make porch cupboards displaying some of the dolls? ;)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 23, 2014, 09:49:05 PM
Porch cupboards?

Someone gave Gramma a china cabinet for Christmas one year, mind - and she kept it full of dolls the rest of her life.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 23, 2014, 10:38:30 PM
Perhaps I phrased it wrong? I meant a sort of display on the veranda. Does that makes sense?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 23, 2014, 10:39:20 PM
Why would we keep dolls outside?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on September 23, 2014, 10:46:23 PM
Because the house is overcrowded? Or to let the People of the United States enjoy the BUncle family handicraft? ;)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 23, 2014, 10:49:46 PM
It IS overcrowded...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 24, 2014, 12:13:21 AM
Remco - Baby Laugh'a'Lot Original Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kvenmWEhFE#)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on October 02, 2014, 07:15:22 PM
^ KILL IT NOW!
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on October 02, 2014, 07:15:39 PM
Yawn...

Annabelle - Official Main Trailer [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paFgQNPGlsg#ws)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 02, 2014, 07:40:20 PM
...There was an episode of Buffy with an animate ventriloquist's dummy that I thought missed out on a bit of world-building.  He was just a supernatural being who happened to be small, undercover.

I would have established homonculi spirits - so frankensteins, zombies, Talking Tina and evil dummies were really all the same thing taking different forms...  Probably the same thing as poltergeists, too.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on February 17, 2015, 12:35:57 PM
Flat Talia having a doll party...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pEXNfXRl08Q/VOM02S3ci2I/AAAAAAAAc-M/q9Bh9lst8HM/s800/005_zps6mxfiiv5.jpg)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on February 17, 2015, 03:03:38 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31502898 (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31502898)

internet connected dolls to talk to kids in real time.  Too creepy for me. 
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on February 17, 2015, 05:42:26 PM
Not creepier then a computer program talking back to you.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 17, 2015, 06:17:02 PM
"Flat Talia"?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 17, 2015, 06:42:38 PM
-And speaking as a proven authority on the subject of great, huge piles of dolls, that is one of them.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on February 17, 2015, 07:08:46 PM
Yeah, almost five dozen... :o
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on February 17, 2015, 10:00:09 PM
"Flat Talia"?


http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=15659.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=15659.0)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7DDyCsLTdmE/VMzfZDw-QSI/AAAAAAAAc7I/-23wB1hvAR4/s800/IMG_0156.JPG)

https://www.facebook.com/AnUnorthodoxHalloween?ref=br_rs (https://www.facebook.com/AnUnorthodoxHalloween?ref=br_rs)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on February 17, 2015, 10:06:40 PM
Not creepier then a computer program talking back to you.


Computer programs don't have bodies nor are they teaching kids to go to the damn toy for conversation. 
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 17, 2015, 10:26:46 PM
 :-[  I'm available for the project, BTW - or not, depending on whatever's more convenient for y'all.  I'd definitely try to get it to Zkribbler and others abroad first, if practical, for the foreign exotic location(s) - and I really doubt two months is anything like time to do it right.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on February 18, 2015, 02:15:05 AM
Yeah, Talia chose to do more US stops than a couple overseas ones. 

It's been to Colorado>Louisiana (the colorado folks took it to louisiana with them to the Halloween convention)>Oklahoma and is now on it's way to Texas.  We're kinda in a wait and see how far we can get mode. 

I believe it goes Texas (halloween group event this weekend...)>Florida (disney/beach)>Virginia>New York>most the great lakes states(forget the order I worked out trying to keep mail times short, don't have the list here)>Canada>Washington>Oregon>California>Home

I keep getting more volunteers.  Can't remember off top of my head, where'd you move to? 

It WILL make it to Canada, there's a couple 8 year olds up there waiting for it.  If I have to cut some other stuff out, so be it. 
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 18, 2015, 02:26:03 AM
I'm back in America/North Carolina.  You have the address if you need it.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on February 18, 2015, 03:10:48 AM
Do I?  not sure at the moment. 

Mind is pretty stretched right now between overtime, organizing this, and suddenly having to care for a mother in law that can no longer so much as feed herself or make it to the bathroom all springing up in the last couple weeks.

Overtime should be done though. 
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 18, 2015, 03:17:42 AM
If you end up needing it, I'll PM.  I don't really remember if you sent the face here or to Texas, either.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on February 18, 2015, 04:12:15 AM
oh...think that was pmd to me at the other place....
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on February 18, 2015, 06:16:29 PM
Not creepier then a computer program talking back to you.


Computer programs don't have bodies nor are they teaching kids to go to the damn toy for conversation.

The uncanny valley effect at work if I ever saw it in action. :D
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 02, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
Now that I won't spoil the surprise for the intended recipient, I thought I'd post pictures of the doll makeover project I recently completed.  I wanted to create a doll of a Star Trek OC (original character) created by a friend of mine.  I started with a Monster High doll because they have nice big heads for repainting and I needed golden skin for this character.  Here's the face I started with
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 02, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
First step was to remove the hair...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 02, 2015, 07:26:56 PM
...and the makeup.  Since I'm out of practice, I cheated a little and left the original brows and eyeliner.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 02, 2015, 07:29:58 PM
Next, I soaked the head in hot water for 30 seconds in order to soften the vinyl sufficiently to removed the head from the body without cracking the long fragile neck.  I then removed the remaining hair plugs by reaching inside the head with needle-nosed pliers.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on April 03, 2015, 02:31:19 AM
 ;popcorn

Nice to see you again, Mylochka. :)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 03, 2015, 05:13:59 PM
Thanks!   :D Have been sick a lot since Christmas, but am trying to get back into the swing of things again..

Okay -- on to the face painting.  First I work on the whites of the eyes.  I tried to shape the white by using a little gray at the corners, but my acrylics are getting a little old and don't blend as well as I'd like.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 03, 2015, 05:15:28 PM
Next I start working on the shape of the iris of the eyes and the general outlines of the lips...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 03, 2015, 05:18:28 PM
More detail to the eyes. I have to carefully scrape away excess paint with the point of a straight pin.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on April 03, 2015, 06:41:47 PM
Still a bit in the uncanny zone though...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 04, 2015, 03:04:40 PM
Yeah, the effect is kind of intensified by how big the head looks in these photos.  In actuality, it's less than 2 inches wide.

Here's a shot of continued work on the makeup...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 04, 2015, 03:10:15 PM
Although I continued to work on the face painting for a little longer, I'm going to move on to re-rooting the hair.  The character I'm trying to recreate is a blonde.  I'm using three different shades of saran hair to give the doll's tresses a more dimensional, realistic  look.

I bought these packets of saran hair at a doll show in Houston around 10 years ago.  The seller did not say where he got the material, but it was rumored that the hair came from a Mattel factory in Northern Mexico.  At any rate, it's high quality doll hair.  Easy to work with.  I wish I'd bought even more of it than I did...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on April 04, 2015, 03:12:22 PM
$3/tress. :D

The head is only 2 inches wide? Why, that was indeed a fragile neck you talked about earlier.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 04, 2015, 03:17:18 PM
To re-root the hair, I use a long "doll sculpture" needle.  I thread about 6 inches of saran hair on the the needle, enter one of the existing holes in the doll's head, tie a knot in the bottom of the thread of hair, then pull it up securely against the inside of the dolly's skull.

Since re-rooting is very repetitive work, I usually watch TV or listen to music while I'm re-rooting.  It's kind of relaxing.  Nice way to keep feeling productive while you're stuck in a waiting room or on a long plane ride... Although I do usually get lots of puzzled stares from people near me...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 04, 2015, 03:18:36 PM
$3/tress. :D

The head is only 2 inches wide? Why, that was indeed a fragile neck you talked about earlier.

Yes!  The little neck on this doll was smaller than my little finger and made of a hard plastic that's easy to crack if you put too much stress on it.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 07, 2015, 03:00:03 PM
More re-rooting... I tried to get a more realistic look by putting in more strands of the lighter hair color in the front of the head and more of the darkest color in the back.

Blonde hair is such an ubiquitous choice for dolls, though, really painstaking blonde hair seems just as bland as plain blonde hair...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 07, 2015, 03:08:49 PM
If you want hair with a part, you have to root two rows of hair where you want the part, then weave them together.  It's kind of aggravating work.  I decided not to put a part in this time..

Re-rooting the head of a Barbie-sized doll usually takes 3-5 hours... But I rarely re-root a head at one marathon sitting.  I usually work on them while I'm winding down in the evening or if I find myself stuck in a waiting room.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 07, 2015, 03:12:33 PM
The last step of re-rooting is putting in the eyelashes....
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on April 07, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
A guide illustrating how dolls receive hair transplants/replacements :).
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 10, 2015, 02:51:18 AM
And here is the finished doll and a picture of the character on which she is based.

(Star Fleet costume courtesy of my very talented mother)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 10, 2015, 03:17:23 AM
I like the doll better.

Thanks for these posts.  ;b;
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on April 10, 2015, 04:10:32 PM
Oh my gosh! ;lol ;b;
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 10, 2015, 04:16:39 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on April 10, 2015, 06:14:33 PM
 8)

Do you have an estimate on the total time to do the head make-over?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on April 16, 2015, 04:26:07 PM
http://www.boredpanda.com/the-souls-of-dolls/ (http://www.boredpanda.com/the-souls-of-dolls/)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on April 17, 2015, 04:35:05 PM
8)

Do you have an estimate on the total time to do the head make-over?

Hmmm.... Hard to say since I did it over the course of several weeks.  Maybe around 6-8 hours?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 04, 2015, 11:05:08 PM
These are disturbing...continue to scroll.

http://www.boredpanda.com/the-souls-of-dolls/ (http://www.boredpanda.com/the-souls-of-dolls/)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on June 26, 2015, 03:17:31 PM
Working on another doll make-over as a birthday present for a friend.  Once again, I'm using a Monster High doll to recreated a original character from Star Trek fan fiction.  This character belongs a fan-created race that has silver-toned skin and burgundy hair.  Here are pictures of the doll I'm starting with and the character I'm going to re-create:
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on June 26, 2015, 03:20:19 PM
Here's the doll with hair, fins, and extra makeup removed.  (I've decided I'm going to be a little lazy on this one and only partially re-paint the doll's face.)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 26, 2015, 03:30:09 PM
Fins?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on June 26, 2015, 04:24:35 PM
Yes, "Laguna Blue" has fins for some reason.... Daughter of the Monster of the Blue Lagoon maybe?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 26, 2015, 04:49:42 PM
I'm not making out where the fins were...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on June 27, 2015, 02:08:33 PM
On her arms and legs.  She's got odd fin-like ears too

Here she is after her partial re-paint
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on June 29, 2015, 05:58:46 PM
Starting work on the hair now.  This one is a little tricky.  This alien race has a hair color described as "burgundy."  To get a wine-like color, I picked two dark shades of red then added a dark purple to give it a more alien sort of hue.  Once you brush the hair, the strands blend to get a nice wine-colored shade, but I've decided to stop adding in the purple at this point to avoid pure purple streaks near the face.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on June 29, 2015, 06:03:36 PM
At this stage, the head hair looks like a Citybuilder from Larry Niven's Ringworld.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on June 29, 2015, 06:11:58 PM
The level of patience and attention to detail on doing hair has always fascinated me.  Never could acquire the taste for it back when I was doing shrunken heads, though. 
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 29, 2015, 08:38:05 PM
I've tried it -I can sew- and the constant needle-threading made it a non-starter.  My eyes are not what they used to be.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 01, 2015, 03:02:27 AM
Here's what Mylochka was up to right before supper.  Old dolls sometimes need to have the limbs restrung because old rubber and chemistry happens...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 08, 2015, 05:21:37 AM
I never posted LizI w/ skirt beading finished.  Here goes...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on July 13, 2015, 03:19:07 AM
Progress update...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on July 13, 2015, 10:56:13 PM
More progress...

The "hank" of hair I bought is hard to work with compared to the saran hair i bought years ago.  It's hard to separate out a "thread" to work with without tangling up the whole hank. I much prefer the hair that's been wound into a spool. Wish I could find a place to buy more...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on July 13, 2015, 11:05:31 PM
These are amazing - Ruth and Jilla dolls! Do you have any plans to do other characters?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 13, 2015, 11:13:00 PM
Yes; she's already started on a Sulu who looks like Sulu but has dark superpowers in another personality.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on July 13, 2015, 11:46:57 PM
So she's doing Kam?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 13, 2015, 11:48:31 PM
No; I was just crap-talking.

She should, though, shouldn't she?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on July 14, 2015, 01:39:35 AM
Are there male dolls that can be used as a base?

Daffy and Uhura dolls would be lovely, too.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 14, 2015, 01:56:23 AM
I would think so, to both.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on July 15, 2015, 10:53:39 PM
Hmmm... Hadn't thought about it, but there are male dolls in this set.... Hmmm... Christmas is coming...

Here's pictures of my least favorite part of re-rooting a doll -  making a part in the hair.  The problem is that the stitches have to be very close.  Frequently one "thread" of hair will pull a previous thread out as it goes in... arrgh!
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on July 17, 2015, 01:23:06 AM
Eyelashes done. Dressed.  ...And here's the finished product!
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 17, 2015, 01:27:10 AM
  :unworthy: ;relish ;liftoff ;realdog  ;worship
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on July 17, 2015, 01:38:12 AM
BEAUTIFUL!  :D
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on July 19, 2015, 08:02:13 PM
Cher got the doll and loved it -- Hooray!!!

And apparently her Ruth Doll wanted to play pirate last night....
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 21, 2015, 02:41:47 AM
And apparently her Ruth Doll wanted to play pirate last night....
Ruth's that way in the stories, isn't she?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Mylochka on July 21, 2015, 07:57:20 PM
Oh, yes...  There's a goofy,  psycho-cinema pirate story we've been trying to finish for ages.  This is a reference to that, but yes, dressing up like a pirate on a flimsy excuse is in quite in character...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 21, 2015, 11:12:03 PM
Spiffy boots!
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Valka on July 22, 2015, 12:38:05 AM
The parrot's cute - it's actually an earring, isn't it?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 14, 2015, 02:40:28 AM
Because of my current chainmail project involving a Barbie-scale prototype, Mylochka dug around and finally found the four other Barbarians she didn't sell off. (Also, bought me two Barbies to work with at the doll show yesterday.)

She doesn't know how the brother front-and-center in the pics below got the sunglasses, but he just looks so much like he's having an indecently good time cosplaying barbarians with his friends that a whole little scene wrote itself in my head:


Fade in on barbarians walking around the con]
(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=993)
Michael had had reservations about setting foot in public in the costume, not least that 'the metal diaper would look fruity', but his friends said he could be the barbarian chief, the girls assured him that his body looked 'yummy' in the gear, and a few admiring stares from bystanders later, he was getting REALLY into it.  Humming the theme from Shaft, he got into his best deep, deep, Isaac Hayes voice.

"Jason; get ready to hand me my sword.   That dragon up ahead look like he think he can keep me down, and I ain't asking either of you twice.  Ladies; you just keep singin' backup."

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=995)
;notes; Who is the man/Who will risk his neck for a barbarian? ;notes;

;notes; SHAFT! Barbarian Shaft. ;notes;

;notes; That's right ;notes;

"Hey white boy with the camera!  Sit on the floor and get a low angle.  I wanna looomm.










(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=994)
"Awwwww yeah."
Title: Re: Making Chainmail
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 18, 2015, 04:21:00 AM
(She's in the middle of working up bunches of dolls to sell at a local doll show.)

 ;eek I would have used a fainting smiley. An actual doll reduction?!
Title: Re: Re: Making Chainmail
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2015, 04:29:50 AM
She swears selling Barbies she'd dressed and done various customizing things to on EBay in the 90s contributed substantially to paying off her student loans in about 10 years.  There used to be quite a market for custom Barbies on EBay in the 90s economy, since dried up.  Sometimes, people were paying $40 for a $5 doll in a homemade dress, nothing else.

Selling some makes some money back and makes room for more...  She had the pleasure of having them, the pleasure of doing whatever she did to them, and gets the pleasure of $$ and room back that way.
Title: Re: Re: Making Chainmail
Post by: Green1 on September 18, 2015, 04:46:04 AM
She swears selling Barbies she'd dressed and done various customizing things to on EBay in the 90s contributed substantially to paying off her student loans in about 10 years.  There used to be quite a market for custom Barbies on EBay in the 90s economy, since dried up.  Sometimes, people were paying $40 for a $5 doll in a homemade dress, nothing else.

Selling some makes some money back and makes room for more...  She had the pleasure of having them, the pleasure of doing whatever she did to them, and gets the pleasure of $$ and room back that way.

I keep thinking about "walls of plastic crap" when I read that...LOL!

At least it is not "vampire teeth"...lol! It was like a running joke in New Orleans 00 to 03. All the rainbow and washed up ren faire refugees blamed the market falling out for custom vampire fangs ( I heard like 5 stories all from different folks). But, I think it was more because no one liked them. I mean, I know the Camarilla and such. But really... how many wealthy neckbeards or neckbeardettes really wanted custom vampire teeth other than maybe ONE con costume? MAYBE a larper. And, something tells me the SCA folks and rennies would not want one either nor Burning Man folks.

At least dolls have a niche market for those that love walls and walls of plastic crap. But, I think the whole "walls of plastic crap" decor fell out of vogue a long time ago. A trend that is bad for her, but probably a good thing. Plus, 5 USD doll for 40? It's like gaming computers. Anyone really into that would build their own in the woman cave. Just like building computers for other people fell to the wayside.
Title: Re: Re: Making Chainmail
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2015, 04:57:09 AM
Some of the dresses were really super.  Some were just cocktail dresses but nice.  Mattel was selling special editions for $90 at the time in stores, where it was just a fancy box and a very nice dress.

She also does a lot of face/makeup repainting, and re-rooting all-new hair.  Mix and match on any given EBay offering.  I, myself, put her onto black sisters like Barbie, too, but want something looking a little closer to them, which proved a good market while the market was good - lots less artists working in minority/ethnic Barbies.

-Anyone mind if I move a few purely dolls posts into the thread for that?  (If you've not seen Dolls, Green, it's still on the 1st page, and talk about walls of plastic.  (Time to post another pic in the Valeria Lukyanova thread, come to think of it. ;))
Title: Re: Re: Making Chainmail
Post by: Dio on September 19, 2015, 04:01:37 AM
The precious dolls are facing imminent extinction in the face of various circumstances that present themselves in the BUncle household *Faints*.
Title: Re: Re: Making Chainmail
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 19, 2015, 04:08:20 AM
Nah.  She ain't selling MOMMA's dolls, and not THAT many of her own.



-I see no objection, so about to do a little thread surgery...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 19, 2015, 04:41:52 AM
Genghis Ken

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=1000)

-That, or prehistoric Kilnzhai's prettiest warrior...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 22, 2015, 07:16:05 PM
I failed you all terribly the day of the doll show a few weekends back, when I went to take pictures of Barbarian Shaft & co. and didn't think to turn around and photo the living room table full of the ladies' doll show haul behind me.

Attached is the three still on the table yesterday - the rest are already on shelves.  The girl in the middle appears to be a set with the Bar Mitzvah boy on the left.

-I'll try to do better in the future - and I was just on Mylochka the other day to take pictures of everyone she's working on for the show before she sells them (an artist should keep that kind of record of their work when they intend to part with it) so hopefully, I can get her to post those.

Anyway, laugh it up, Green, but you're just in on the joke; I live in the Doll House. ;)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 23, 2015, 12:39:08 AM
What happened to the doll on the right? The Doll's head does not match the size of its arms and legs  ???.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 23, 2015, 12:40:52 AM
I think that's just how she was made, or a trick of the angle or something.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 24, 2015, 01:52:30 AM
I THINK these are accessories to some doll show haul dolls - but all I know is, Mylochka said to go take pictures; she may have remembered me saying (Rusty?) had asked for doll masks...  Well, there is such a thing...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 24, 2015, 03:36:52 PM
I THINK these are accessories to some doll show haul dolls - but all I know is, Mylochka said to go take pictures; she may have remembered me saying (Rusty?) had asked for doll masks...  Well, there is such a thing...
They appear similar to masquerades . . .
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 24, 2015, 03:47:48 PM
That's the idea, yes - and Mom thinks Mylochka made them herself.  -I had wondered, given the beads and feathers and painting style, which are all very her.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Dio on September 24, 2015, 03:50:09 PM
That's the idea, yes - and Mom thinks Mylochka made them herself.  -I had wondered, given the beads and feathers and painting style, which are all very her.
That must have required some exqusite workmanship on Mylochka's part.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 24, 2015, 03:59:02 PM
I think so.  It's REALLY hard to make things that look like much at that size - she no longer has the eyesight of a young person and has to do it with human-sized fingers.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 27, 2015, 09:23:37 PM
There was a doll show yesterday, and I remembered my duty to document my walls-of-plastic existence this time.

Note the pliers and WD40 on the table - there's always a lot of fixing after a bunch of dolls come in.  My wimminz don't just put them on the shelves or dress them and then put them on the shelves.  They aren't opposed at all to grabbing up fixer-uppers cheap and doing the fixing.  That's part of the fun.

So is the dressing and looking at them on the shelves...

Not pictured: Mylochka won a very green doll in the big-headed, neotenic style of most of the ones in back, here - of course, I'm after her to make it a dancing girl outfit for some babydoll Orion girl pics...

Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 03, 2015, 05:12:29 PM
Doll show today.  I don't know if Mylochka got around to taking pictures of what-all she's been working on to sell, but I saw to it that Momma has her camera, so there will probably be pictures soon...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 03, 2015, 10:55:48 PM
Mom came through.  All I did was lay her camera next to her wallet last night after she'd gone to bed, but she got the message.

I understand the turnout was poor today because of the weather - Mylochka sold enough to pay her overhead and they all had a good time, so not a waste.  She sold more doll clothes than dolls.

Important to note - her work got a really good response from the crowd, and what she didn't sell because of a hurricane coming, she still has to sell another day, and indications are that at a more fortunately-timed show, there'll be no problem.  She's encouraged.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 03, 2015, 11:53:21 PM
I THINK these are accessories to some doll show haul dolls - but all I know is, Mylochka said to go take pictures; she may have remembered me saying (Rusty?) had asked for doll masks...  Well, there is such a thing...

Yes, I believe so. I don't remember the context any more. More like chain mail for dolls, it's a natural progression.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2015, 12:00:30 AM
I think it was in the Masks thread, too - these dolls confuse everything.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 21, 2016, 12:59:43 AM
http://www.boredpanda.com/realistic-doll-faces-polymer-clay-michael-zajkov/ (http://www.boredpanda.com/realistic-doll-faces-polymer-clay-michael-zajkov/)

Creepy.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 21, 2016, 01:06:27 AM
Impressive.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 21, 2016, 01:26:02 AM
That too.

Well, assuming he's actually building dolls from scratch and not using sorcery of some sort to transform people into dolls.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 23, 2016, 09:39:50 PM
Doll show coming in five weeks - Mom's already been making tiny dresses for two.

I'll try to see to there being pictures to post...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 05, 2016, 01:23:19 AM
It wasn't five weeks.  They went and did some setup today...

Note that somebody turned up a bunch of the missing swords, and at least Genghis Ken and one of the girls is getting a shot.

Mom promises more at the actual show tomorrow.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2016, 02:06:36 AM
I screwed up and forgot to get the camera back to Mom for the show; sorry 'bout that.

I understand more clothes than anything else moved again this time.  And the barbarians attracted a LOT of attention.  A black man is supposed to have lingered over Barbarian Shaft for a very long time, though he didn't buy, but Shaft and Jason did get sold, though for less than I think the time put into smithing the swords was worth.  A doll show crowd isn't really the ideal audience, but teen girls would pick up the barbarian girls and shout "LOOK AT THIS!" at someone they knew, and it sounds like the barbarians had a real value for novelties drawing attention to the table.

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=993)
Ooooh YEAH.

I'm told Shaft wasn't wearing the shades, which I think was a major part of his charm...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on March 08, 2016, 03:20:45 PM
Quote
it sounds like the barbarians had a real value for novelties drawing attention to the table.

Freaks and clowns. 

Nothing too shabby about being novelties to attract attention. 
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on March 08, 2016, 03:23:24 PM
It wasn't five weeks.  They went and did some setup today...

Note that somebody turned up a bunch of the missing swords, and at least Genghis Ken and one of the girls is getting a shot.

Mom promises more at the actual show tomorrow.

Is that a mad hatter costume I spy? 

And that white haired/black dress in the second row from the back on the left looks like it would make an admirable vampire countess...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2016, 03:37:09 PM
The best Mylochka ever did on Halloween stuff was back in the EBay days, she was trying to think of a holiday theme pair -she'd done well with a Santa Ken and elf Barbie in a white fur-trimmed short red tube cocktail dress (which was both easy and cute) and I suggested Ken in a wizard robe and Barbie in the same dress only orange and black.  The fluffy bunny Halloween crowd ate it up.

Quote
it sounds like the barbarians had a real value for novelties drawing attention to the table.

Freaks and clowns. 

Nothing too shabby about being novelties to attract attention.
I've made that exact point emphatically - and these are for-the-heck-of-it projects made years ago, so worth is relative when cash is needed and many projects on hand taking up space.  (Could have made five times as much on EBay back when the custom Barbie market was crazy big.)

I talked about the Supergirl idea to Momma for half an hour last night - and some related talk about stuff that ought to be better payoff for the effort and move.  But it's always a matter of the money sucks for the time and skill put in, so limited worth in projects done just for the money.  Those are only worth it briefly while the crafting is still engaging.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on March 08, 2016, 04:13:07 PM
"Halloween stuff" has CHANGED, though. 

Look at Monster High.  It's positively mainstream now. 

A vampire count/countess in traditional elegant wardrobe would appeal to a wider range than just "Halloween" today.  Don't even have to CALL them vampires, really. 

Heck, a well done Frankenstein/bride combo as well.  Most over-exaggerate the hair. 

Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2016, 04:19:01 PM
I know she's taken some interest in the Monster High dolls as demonstrated early in this thread - but the whole field of creepy stuff is really outside her interests.

Her tastes would run to an elaborate set of Frankenstein characters done very Victorian -possibly heavily influenced by the Branaugh/DeNiro movie, 'cause she loves those guys, if not the movie- as in the Shelley novel.  Awesome, but hardly in the good-return-on-effort category, for all that it would probably get snapped up fast...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 11, 2016, 10:21:08 PM
An apple doll I carved the head for as a kid - it really didn't turn out well, any more than it wanted to photograph worth anything...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on April 18, 2016, 05:22:39 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i8mRpyZ-EpU/VxUIdtfGPJI/AAAAAAAAgTA/Ef22cKZg4ZICS_SOCqJEHgcbN6S8mCYKQCCo/s800-Ic42/IMG_1128.JPG)

Ok...


Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2016, 09:06:41 PM
So the story is, when Mylochka was about to turn 16, Momma asked her what she wanted.  -She said "a man".  So Momma made her first lifesize doll, Harlan Mann.

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=1370)

He's lived in the playhouse since, but has been in the woodshed for a couple months since the cleaning.

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=1369)

If the story's right, he'll be turning 38 about the time Civ 6 drops.  White knit material, stuffed, acrylic paints face - real clothes (Dig the far-out mid-70s polyester material).

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=1368)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 13, 2016, 11:18:18 PM
Cool shoes, too.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 14, 2016, 01:53:03 AM
It gets better - as something of an expert on her stitchwork, I can say that Mom made the shirt - just for a person, who stopped wearing it (or was suddenly missing a shirt).



There was a doll show today.

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=1371)

This is the doll haul.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 15, 2016, 03:16:09 PM
So the story is, when Mylochka was about to turn 16, Momma asked her what she wanted.  -She said "a man".  So Momma made her first lifesize doll, Harlan Mann.

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=1370)

He's lived in the playhouse since, but has been in the woodshed for a couple months since the cleaning.

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=1369)

If the story's right, he'll be turning 38 about the time Civ 6 drops.  White knit material, stuffed, acrylic paints face - real clothes (Dig the far-out mid-70s polyester material).

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=1368)
Bumped for Uno...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 16, 2016, 09:33:36 PM
Bumped again...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on September 06, 2016, 09:42:50 PM
Talia's recently gotten into the "Ever After High" dolls.

http://shop.mattel.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=45123846&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=bing&utm_campaign=EAH_Low+ROAS_EAH+Main_Exact_Q1-Q4&utm_term=ever+after+dolls&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=bing&utm_campaign=EAH_Low+ROAS_EAH+Main_Exact_Q1-Q4&gclid=CJC_rIbN-84CFYRyMgod8EEKDw&gclsrc=ds&dclid=CLKjyIbN-84CFcUGgQodS28Auw (http://shop.mattel.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=45123846&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=bing&utm_campaign=EAH_Low+ROAS_EAH+Main_Exact_Q1-Q4&utm_term=ever+after+dolls&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=bing&utm_campaign=EAH_Low+ROAS_EAH+Main_Exact_Q1-Q4&gclid=CJC_rIbN-84CFYRyMgod8EEKDw&gclsrc=ds&dclid=CLKjyIbN-84CFcUGgQodS28Auw)

They seem to use the monster high base, but painted/dressed for far more cute. 
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 09, 2016, 03:06:45 AM
There was another doll show today.  Mylochka roughly broke even on her table fee again -I told her yesterday to stop trying to sell during hurricanes- but they had a good time and came back with dolls they got really good deals on.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Unorthodox on February 17, 2017, 09:24:47 PM
Face off this year had a challenge to turn their model into a monster high doll. 

http://www.syfy.com/faceoff/episodes (http://www.syfy.com/faceoff/episodes)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 14, 2017, 04:23:42 PM
...Moving the doll crafting here from the Masks and other art thread...

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2221) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2222)

Mom has made three pairs of doll shoes this way, now.  I'll get pics of the others...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 15, 2017, 09:19:07 PM
Here's the three pairs Mom has made with press mold shoe soles...

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2239)

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2240)




-I've started something else in a similar line.  Pics soon.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 15, 2017, 09:37:28 PM
That shoemaking is cool.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 15, 2017, 10:28:38 PM
Gimme a few minutes, then...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 15, 2017, 11:02:44 PM
See, Barbie has weird feet, like a 100 year-old Chinese noblewoman.

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2241)

So it doesn't look it without a barefoot comparison shot, but these raw sculpey pumps cover a lot less foot than it appears - it hit me that it might be workable to do a press mold that covers a teeny bit of toe, and less heel, and still hold onto the foot.  Part of the idea is pressing Barbie feet to the inside in the mold to get that part right.  It ought to -maybe- work with a flexible silicone mold, and if Premo baking clay is as flexible as my nets research claims.  The trick will be pulling the Barbie feet back out before baking and leaving the shoe undistorted/intact.  -Maybe a little talcum power.

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2242) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2243)
I've got her in the freezer to help firm up the water-free sculpey -I'm worried about those thin heels holding up to silicone insertion, and I can't bake the shoes on the doll- which is why all these shots show frost or dew.
(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2244) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2245)
Barbie feet are usually made partly of the same flexible vinyl that her head is, which is why I hope there's enough flex in her toes to get in and out of the finished shoes.  I'm not satisfied with the match between the two.  Detail work is very difficult at that tiny size.  -So I, dunno, might carve a little on the baked end result and try a second mold - less sculpey than half my pinky tip and two squirts of calk hardly makes for an expensive learning curve...
(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2246)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 16, 2017, 12:07:27 AM
Best guess immediately after molding attempt:  this try's gonna be no good.

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2247) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2248) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2249)

I had the Barbie in a doll stand to hold her feet elevated while I worked on them.  I only kneaded the calk in the soapy water for 15 seconds or so, because I wanted it soft and not setting up before I was ready.  I was pinching off small bits of calk and applying to her feet individually, to softly fill the instep first, then the rest of the bottom, then around the top.  It was going great until she came off the stand, both feet contacted the table, and I had to start over - only now the shoes had thawed from the freezer and were covered with dew and the calk didn't want to stick at all and spread right the second time.

I enclosed each foot as well as I could, which may or may not be well enough, and put her back on the stand and pressed her enclosed feet into the base slab - I figure the feet used in any given shoe pressing will be attached to a doll, so the spacing/orientation matters.

Need to let the mold cure overnight before baking the shoes is practical, so I best leave it until then.  The heels probably deformed wildly pressing into the slab, too, so joy joy joy.  We'll see, and updates as developments develop...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 16, 2017, 02:15:30 AM
I've mentioned before that I do a non-trivial portion of my important thinking about my arting while I'm sitting on the porch of Dog City with the cats; for sunset session, I realized that next time, I should skip the spike heels and make what Momma tells me is called a "wedge" - fill in the bottom of the shoe with a much more substantial heel w/ a very modest normal instep.  Mylochka can use them as some sort of 70s shoe that Barbie may be actually able to stand in, or more importantly, glue cloth/vinyl uppers that go down to barely above the instep as if it were a normal-height shoe on a fairly normal foot.  -They'll have a tendency to look like Victorian women's boots unless I build the toe forward enough, but that might look odd in the uncovered version.  Still thinking it over...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 16, 2017, 04:07:59 AM
Thanks. Yes, I remember Barbie feet. Wedges would make some sense, or maybe some mod platform shoes. I guess that's up to your doll fashion experts, though.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 16, 2017, 04:18:01 AM
Stay tuned.  Pics processing now...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 16, 2017, 04:47:44 AM
(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2250) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2251) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2252) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2253)

I think the gunk on her left foot is residue from using some tacky weak glue to help hold a shoe on.  They're tough feet to get a shoe to stay on, what with the unnatural tapering of the foot towards the toe end, opposite of human feet.

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2254) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2255) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2256)
Note the fairly natural human shape to the footprint that last would make.
(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2257) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2258) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2259) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2260)

-Much as I'd like to stay at it through the other wedge and leaving a mold attempt to cure overnight, I'm well past my bedtime, and lately, I'm gonna wake around seven whether I was asleep 45 minutes ago or not...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 16, 2017, 07:15:35 AM
Get your rest.

Now that you mention it, her toes really are compressed, aren't they?
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 16, 2017, 01:30:30 PM
It's freaky - and she has no ankles to speak of.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 16, 2017, 04:17:40 PM
Beginning the second shoe, this stage is nothing but the sole of the foot covered on the new one for comparison.

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2261) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2262)

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2263) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2264)

As I said yesterday, getting a shoe to not come out looking like she has Alley Oop feet takes a fair bit of extending at toe and heel.

I've finished since, and gotten both smoothed and matching -she's in the fridge, chillin', as I type; no freezer- to my more-or-less satisfaction.  An artist/craftsman has to either work in a deliberately rough style, or obsessively go over detail after detail -someone will notice at least some of the flaws, otherwise- and it's hard to know when to stop in the quest for perfection, which just isn't possible working on something so small.  I see nothing but flaws when I take and post close-up photos...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 16, 2017, 06:37:51 PM
So a new approach hit me while I was sitting in Dog City after lunch - the mold doesn't need a bottom for the flat bits, and that would simplify making it and allow better forming during fabrication.  So I set her on the stand and put the proto-shoes in firm contact with the base-

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2265)

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2266) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2267) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2268)
The feet on this one are naturally close together posed in a standing position.


Then one squirt of putty, soapy water kneading, carefully pushing a tiny bit under each instep, then surrounding the rest -careful to completely cover the top and go up the ankles, as that's part of the idea for the mold design- and voila!

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2269)

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2270) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2271)

-In fabrication -if this mold turns out good, and it should- I figure to invert the Barbie and go in from the open bottom of the mold, placing the bits of Premo that go over the toes and hug behind the heels, pull the feet into place and press the rest in.  -Then stand the lot in the fridge for an hour to firm up the clay before extracting the doll and baking.

I need to let the mold sit for at least until this evening before I proceed.


I then had an encouraging experience extracting the Barbie from yesterday's pumps.  Some minor pushing everything back into place in the mold, and the prototypes have baked and are cooling in the toaster oven now.  I'm curious to see if they come out unwarped, though I never expected the originals intact and working.  It's whether the mold is any good that matters...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 16, 2017, 09:10:12 PM
Hmmm.

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2272) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2273) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2274)

These came out in better shape than I'd dared expect, notwithstanding problems.  The shoe on the left had a slight inward deformation in the heel, which broke off in demolding and had to be glued back on.  The other has a better heel that stayed on, but the whole thing broke in the middle of the instep.  The one with the intact body demonstrated that the shoes need to cover more of the heel to hold on there, though the toe part worked fine.  These look terrible, but had to go through the mold-making trauma, and now that I have solid baked cores to polish and bulk up for strength and make match each other better, I think I can do something with them for a second try at a mold...  They need thicker soles and/or more side coverage for overall structural strength, and I need to think about the mold structure for better demolding.

-Meanwhile, to be thourough in my experimentation, I opened the white Premo, which is supposed to be better stuff for things like this, and tried the mold on hand:

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2275)

The Premo seems to have passed its use-by date - at least, it seemed awful dry and hard, taking a LOT of kneading and a bit of Vaseline to get smooth and soft.  I packed extra in the top of the mold, 'cause I'd rather have too much than too little, also for strength.  It's in the fridge for firming before I pull the doll feet out and bake.
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 20, 2017, 04:17:38 AM
Well, I've given up on the pumps entirely, and concluded that the whole-shoe thing with a modest closed toe is just unworkable.


The wedges might be usable as soles w/ uppers glued on - I think the mold will let me skip the closed toe, and just mold the under-foot part.
(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2306)

I had to cut the instep part of the underside of the mold to work as flaps; I couldn't rotate the originals out through the forward toe holes w/o breaking them - the modification worked pretty well.



-Meanwhile, I'm trying one last thing:  boots.

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2304) (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2303)

Maybe if I can make this thick enough, they'll actually stay on feet on their own.  These are in progress; I'm going to add low heels and more sole forward of that, so they won't look so much like ski boots.




(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2305)
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 24, 2017, 08:05:52 PM
Without any great enthusiasm, given all the setbacks, I concluded I'd done all there was any use doing to the boots.
(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2373)   (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2374)   (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2375)

So now the mold is sitting to cure -
(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2376)   (http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=2377)
-this is from the same new tube of calk that was so slow setting up with the patches to the Ken bust mold, so I'm curious to see if this is slow.  The patches seemed to take about a day to set, and each candle came out needing less fingernail whittling of extraneous snags than the one before...
Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Geo on February 16, 2018, 02:08:56 PM
There was a doll section in the Ushuaian Prison/Maritime museum...

Title: Re: Dolls
Post by: Rusty Edge on October 13, 2018, 08:41:05 AM
Here's an article about why dolls make us anxious/afraid. It's conditioning by movies, tv, etc.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/your-fear-of-dolls-is-totally-normal-according-to-a-psychologist/ar-BBOiwOI?ocid=spartandhp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/your-fear-of-dolls-is-totally-normal-according-to-a-psychologist/ar-BBOiwOI?ocid=spartandhp)

[Your Fear of Dolls is Totally Normal, According to a Psychologist

Leah Groth 14 hrs ago



© New Line Cinema/Evergreen Media Group/Kobal/REX/Shutterstock Why exactly do people fear dolls? We spoke to a psychologist to find out the science behind it, when fear crosses into phobia, and how to deal with it.

If the sight of your grandmother’s old china dolls gives you goose bumps, you aren’t alone. While very little research has been conducted about the fear of dolls, all you have to do is look at the abundance of popular movies and television shows featuring the (often murderous) children’s toys to realize that a lot of people shudder at the sight of them.
Halloween is just around the corner, and you are pretty much guaranteed to see at least one creepy doll costume. But why exactly are dolls so scary to some people? We spoke to a psychologist to find out.
Why do so many people have a fear of dolls?
It’s important to note that most youngsters aren’t actually afraid of dolls, explains clinical psychologist Kate Wolitzky-Taylor, PhD, a faculty member in the department of psychiatry and biobehavioral sciences at UCLA. “People aren’t born being afraid of dolls,” she explains. “In fact, many kids like them.”

Instead, the fear you feel is conditioned over the years, likely by all of the evil dolls you see in pop culture. Anyone who has seen one of the many Puppet Master, Annabelle (pictured above), or Chucky movies, viewed one of their posters, or even just heard the chilling music accompanying their trailers might be able to understand how this could happen.
But why do you fear dolls that aren’t in movies?

You begin to associate the fear you absorb from specific fear-inducing situations with other dolls, even those that are seemingly innocent. “This consistent pairing of dolls with other creepy, scary stimuli may lead to experiencing fear or nervousness when confronted with a doll or an image of a doll,” says Wolizky-Taylor. “Learning is a big factor, whether it’s direct learning experiences, or vicarious learning through others.”
While few people have studied the specific fear of dolls, there has been research conducted on what gives us the heebie jeebies in general. In 1970, Japanese roboticist Masahiro Mori coined the term “uncanny valley” to describe the discomfort that arises in people when they see robots that are very similar to, but not quite human.
At first, people respond well to robots even as they become more realistic, but at a certain point that changes. It usually happens when the robots are very close to being life-like, but then do something that is out of human character. That’s when you start to find them unnerving and possibly creepy. Basically, while we are attracted to just how similar they are to humans, we are also a bit afraid because they are different.

In one international study, researchers surveyed more than 1,000 people about general “creepiness” and concluded that ambiguity-when something is open to more than one interpretation-is a big factor in what triggers those feelings of fear. For instance, you see a doll (or even a clown, also feared by many) in a scary movie, and it understandably provokes fear. But when something or someone may not be dangerous at all-say, a doll on a shelf-it may still seem unpredictable to you, and therefore, totally creepy. ]

The article continues into phobia territory, which is rare, then concludes with advice that if doll horror creeps you out, don't watch.
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