Alpha Centauri 2

Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri & Alien Crossfire => Modding => Bug/Patch Discussion => Topic started by: Kirov on July 24, 2013, 11:05:57 PM

Title: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Kirov on July 24, 2013, 11:05:57 PM

I'm playing in two MP games right no - Last Man Standing:

http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2523.150 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2523.150)

And in both cases, me and another player (Green1) by popping pods triggered massive floods which are not on the list of possible pod results. Instead, they use the dialog for 'bases submerged'.


#BASESUBMERGED1
#xs 440
#caption Chief Planetologist
Tidal waves near $BASENAME0! $BASENAME0 has been submerged and lost!

And then I always lose HQ, nearby units and the entire huge patch of jungle around.

I've never before met such an event, although t_ras mentioned he have. Maybe it's a fault of his copy? He created both scenarios after all, although so far only me and Green1 experienced this.

To Green1 once, to me it has happened four times already. Then I noticed something unusual - the flood affects all starting points (the maps are symmetrical) in the same way, flooding huge chunks of the land and probably also affecting the jungle.

The last time I managed to take several screenshots. It was also quite an odd pop - for the first time, a regular pop (earthquake) happened after the initial flood. So one bugged event was followed by one normal.

This all happened over the course of four turns, from 2104 to 2107.

I think these are all the details I can recall.


The game is still on - should I upload the screenshots and saves? Is it fine just to hide the pics in a spoiler section?

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 24, 2013, 11:15:20 PM

For what it's worth, I'm around all the time, and will try to keep an eye out for anyone from that game having a look.  I know I'd like to see the screenies.

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Kirov on July 24, 2013, 11:24:39 PM

I trust other SMACers 100% and I bet my money there'll be no foul play, I just don't want them to wander here by mistake before their morning coffee. ;)

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Kirov on July 24, 2013, 11:26:29 PM

Sorry, never done this - how do you actually upload screenshots here?

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 24, 2013, 11:31:02 PM

Click on the "Attachments and other options" line below the full Reply box.

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Kirov on July 24, 2013, 11:38:32 PM

So here they are. The first one presents the dialog window, the second one - another pop event from the same pod (earthquake), and on the third one you can see the aftermaths - compared to the first pic, the entire map is affected.

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Kirov on July 24, 2013, 11:43:18 PM

And the password to both games is:

(click to show/hide)

alien

Please share you thoughts! I know I've never met this issue for many years of SMAC/X playing, on various copies, legal or not, on various computers with different OS. And now four times almost in a row....

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Yitzi on July 25, 2013, 04:12:43 AM

I tried loading the games and grabbing pods, and encountered no floods.

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Kirov on July 25, 2013, 09:29:43 AM

Well, it's still a random event and reloading the turn usually helps - I haven't experienced it twice in a row so far. Considering that in both games there are a lot of pods lying around, I guess I popped 1-3 of them every turn and got 4 floods over the course of 7 turns - not that a high chance. I just uploaded the games and shots to provide full materials possible.

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Yitzi on July 25, 2013, 01:11:04 PM

Sounds like one of the random events is malfunctioning and producing the flood instead.  Does it matter which pod you use?

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: sisko on July 25, 2013, 01:23:21 PM

hmm.. the flood may be related to the scenario if the map was not built starting from a random generated one. (scenario editor bug)

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Kirov on July 25, 2013, 08:23:33 PM

Quote from: sisko on July 25, 2013, 01:23:21 PM

hmm.. the flood may be related to the scenario if the map was not built starting from a random generated one. (scenario editor bug)

It may be, both maps look like created from a scratch. Is it a well documented bug, something you experienced, or just an educated guess?

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Kirov on July 25, 2013, 08:26:03 PM

Quote from: Yitzi on July 25, 2013, 01:11:04 PM

Sounds like one of the random events is malfunctioning and producing the flood instead.  Does it matter which pod you use?

Nope, it happened at several different pods, all of them fine after the first reload. Interesting why the other two players haven't had it already.

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: sisko on July 25, 2013, 11:25:55 PM

Quote from: Kirov on July 25, 2013, 08:23:33 PM

Quote from: sisko on July 25, 2013, 01:23:21 PM

hmm.. the flood may be related to the scenario if the map was not built starting from a random generated one. (scenario editor bug)

It may be, both maps look like created from a scratch. Is it a well documented bug, something you experienced, or just an educated guess?

it's a well known scenario editor bug. senior CMNs can confirm it. i don't know if this is what you are experiencing though..

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Green1 on July 26, 2013, 01:05:35 AM

I can confirm this. Also, through years of Single Player have yet to see that event except in that game.

Although, Kirov, I did not notice it took out everyone else's stuff too. That would have been hilarious if I would have just stuck with it and turned over a save like that ;lol

Title: Re: Early pods trigger massive deluges of the entire planet
Post by: Kirov on July 27, 2013, 03:33:53 PM

Hello Green1, welcome to the thread I was very specific for you LMS guys not to visit, as there are screenshots and my turn attached. :P

I mean I know you didn't download my turn, but probably just by scrolling down to hit 'reply', you had a good chance to take a glance, even unwillingly, at my starting location. So again, hello.  :whistle:

That's what I meant about the morning coffee...  ;)