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Title: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 05, 2013, 02:35:42 AM

(http://brunching.com/images/geekchartbig.gif)

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Unorthodox on February 05, 2013, 03:08:22 AM

Where's the crazy halloween fans? 

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Green1 on February 05, 2013, 03:16:48 AM

Quote from: Unorthodox on February 05, 2013, 03:08:22 AM

Where's the crazy halloween fans? 

The Halloween folks never did the "con" thing and pretty much keep to themselves (at least most of them). As such, are outside the "geekier than thou" hierachy.

That is, unless your halloween makes you a fan figure. Then you are up there with artists and authors.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 05, 2013, 04:36:03 AM

Quote from: Unorthodox on February 05, 2013, 03:08:22 AM

Where's the crazy halloween fans? 

Look under the furries, and be afraid.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Unorthodox on February 05, 2013, 01:53:49 PM

Quote from: Green1 on February 05, 2013, 03:16:48 AM

Quote from: Unorthodox on February 05, 2013, 03:08:22 AM

Where's the crazy halloween fans? 

The Halloween folks never did the "con" thing and pretty much keep to themselves (at least most of them).

You're joking, right?
Hauntcon: http://hauntcon.com/ (http://hauntcon.com/)
Transworld: http://www.haashow.com/ (http://www.haashow.com/)

Plus several smaller regoinal things. 
RMH (I'm technically a member, but never go to the gatherings, good for selling my stuff.): http://www.rockymountainhaunters.com/ (http://www.rockymountainhaunters.com/)

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As such, are outside the "geekier than thou" hierachy.

That is, unless your halloween makes you a fan figure. Then you are up there with artists and authors.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Unorthodox on February 05, 2013, 01:59:14 PM

Quote from: BUncle on February 05, 2013, 04:36:03 AM

Quote from: Unorthodox on February 05, 2013, 03:08:22 AM

Where's the crazy halloween fans? 

Look under the furries, and be afraid.

Yeah, we're probably well below on the second page of this thing.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Zoid on February 19, 2013, 03:00:18 PM

I'm firmly based in the top tiers, except for a brief stint in the SCA and the swedish splinter group (long story...) :)

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Rymdolov on July 10, 2013, 10:06:45 PM

Quote from: Zoid on February 19, 2013, 03:00:18 PM

I'm firmly based in the top tiers, except for a brief stint in the SCA and the swedish splinter group (long story...) :)

Is that the Society for Creative Anachronism? Dressing up has always had lower status among sf fans in Sweden compared to many other countries. Nowadays you get some cosplayers at sf conventions because of the steampunk crowd, but from what I hear it was practically unheard of for a long time. Someone even warned about it in an official progress report, if I remember correctly. "It's ok to come to the con wearing a costume, but you will probably be the only one doing so." Something like that.

I guess I'm also very high in the geek hierarchy. Kinda nice to be at the top for a change. For I am the King of Sheep.  :D

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: JarlWolf on July 12, 2013, 01:54:53 AM

I am a little confused at his this chart works. As for where I stand...

I am counting reading literature based on sci fi tv shows/movies with novels based on games. I can confirm I've done that. I am a fan of sci fi and fantasy literature... and what else... video gamer... I've done roleplaying games before... probably some other things but the rest are relatively foreign to me. I've never been to any sort of convention like the ones listed and I don't know or even touch the subject of furries or anime. I don't find animals attractive, as I am not that far out in the rural regions and not that desperate. And I don't like the anime art style: I find it's too homogenized and it is lacking in individual approaches: That and the proportion systems, faces and what have you are not too realistic.

An overview is I've played the original DnD a LONG time ago and tried it, I've done roleplaying with certain groups online and in games, I've read literature both on certain sci fi things, fantasy and I don't own many graphic novels/comics, but the ones I do are things like Frank Miller's Sin City, V for Vendetta and I recently got The Walking Dead graphic novel, which has several issues in one book as I liked the television show on the imports channel enough to get it. I've never done sexual roleplay online with anyone as I find it just awkward. Sexual roleplay offline is none of your business. And I have definitely read Tolkien, Stephen King's Dark Tower series (among others), Asimov's works, and I've watched Star Trek with both Kirk and Picard, Star Wars (mainly the originals) and other things; I think you gather the gist.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 12, 2013, 02:43:04 AM

Well, there's not really much to understand; it's mostly just a joke about how nerds look down their noses at each other over matters of opinion.

Mind you, the author got the order of the hierarchy all wrong, and I look down my nose at him for that...

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: JarlWolf on July 12, 2013, 03:25:57 AM

What if he is really tall?

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 12, 2013, 03:33:53 AM

I'm above average myself.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: JarlWolf on July 12, 2013, 03:40:34 AM

Fair enough. I am about 180-184 CM tall Personally. In American measurement, that is maybe about... 6 foot I think?

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 12, 2013, 03:49:40 AM

I think that's right - I'm 6' exactly.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Rymdolov on July 12, 2013, 01:25:59 PM

We're exactly the same height, then! At least I was exactly 6' last time I checked. That was more than a decade ago, come to think of it, so I'v probably shrunk a cm or so due to age.

Whatever that has to do with anything.  :D

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: JarlWolf on July 12, 2013, 02:02:45 PM

I've kept pretty well for my age, as digging through my old enlistment papers my height back then, and this was YEARS ago, decades, I was about 184 CM. I measured myself recently to compare... I am about 182.5 CM roughly.

So yes, were all about the same height.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Doc Nebula on August 02, 2013, 06:38:40 PM

If you don't read for pleasure, you're not a geek.  If you've seen a science fiction or fantasy movie/TV show that was adapted from a book or other source material before you actually read the source material, your geek cred is seriously questionable.

No, WALKING DEAD doesn't count, because Kirkmansucksthatzwhy. 

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 02, 2013, 06:45:33 PM

I've never told you my Starlog story, have I?

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Doc Nebula on August 02, 2013, 07:00:08 PM

Is it that one about you and the Russian hookers and all those moldy potatoes in the Czech granary?   Because that one was pretty gross.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 02, 2013, 07:12:41 PM

No, that one was pretty hot.  I showed them ladies a mighty good time, and you're just jealous, you prude.

...

Back in the 80s, my sister gave me a year's subscription to Starlog.  It was okay, I guess, but I really began noticing how it embodied the post-Star Wars trend of mass media geekdom - I'd gone into it sorta expecting a science fiction magazine, not a movie magazine.

So, the last issue in my subscription, they covered a con, and being Starlog, said coverage mostly consisted of pictures from the costume contest.  That was when I threw the mag across the room in a rage.

There was a picture of a toddler dressed as one of H. Beam Piper's fuzzies, complete with choppo-diggo; someone knew their [poop], and had gone to a lot of trouble.  It was a VERY well-done costume, and adorable.  -The caption beneath the shot?

"The littlest ewok."

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Doc Nebula on August 02, 2013, 07:14:03 PM

Are we not allowed to swear and [poop] on this forum?  Because that will, like, [intercourse gerund] blow.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 02, 2013, 07:15:42 PM

Yeah, sorry; if we allow that on the forum, the google spiders will classify us as 'adult', and that really cuts into hits.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Doc Nebula on August 02, 2013, 07:17:24 PM

Aggravating.

Okay, well, whatever.

That STARLOG story is, unfortunately, pretty typical.  In the Internet age, if you saw that on a site and posted a correction to the comment thread, you'd immediately be called a Cat Piss Man and a grognard by seventeen different drool-weebles. 

It's a sad ass world that won't let me run it.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 02, 2013, 07:25:41 PM

Sure.  Thing is, as I get older, I find myself less driven to set people straight, so I doubt I'd bother to post.

Everyone always being wrong about everything bothers me less than it used to.  -Which is a real relief to my nerves.


I hope the translations the swear filter provides at least compensate by being amusing...

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Doc Nebula on August 02, 2013, 07:29:19 PM

I'll just make up my own vituperation.  It's more fun that way anyway.  Cogg gorkin swear filters my goozely ARSE.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 02, 2013, 07:51:12 PM

Oh frell.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Doc Nebula on August 02, 2013, 09:06:18 PM

Fargzactly.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 02, 2013, 09:13:40 PM

I miss Farscape.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Doc Nebula on August 02, 2013, 09:26:16 PM

Put a scope on your phaser rifle.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 02, 2013, 09:28:20 PM

Why?

Those things have a ferocious area effect.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Geo on August 02, 2013, 09:39:56 PM

Quote from: darren.madigan.7 on August 02, 2013, 06:38:40 PM

If you've seen a science fiction or fantasy movie/TV show that was adapted from a book or other source material before you actually read the source material, your geek cred is seriously questionable.

Depends on your birth year, wouldn't you think?
These days, it's pretty hard to read a (scifi) book before you've seen a TV adaptation of it.
I'm actually not sure what I've seen first: Do androids dream of electric sheep or Blade Runner... and the latter is already an old movie!

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Doc Nebula on August 02, 2013, 09:40:40 PM

True that.  Better for getting the entire cast, I suppose.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 02, 2013, 09:45:37 PM

I think that there's geeks and then there's geeks - and the sort who watch Star Wars and don't read books (unless they're about SW) are, IMAO, inferior to geeks who read, no question.  But I'm not comfortable excluding the movie morons from the tribe - placing them down there on the Geek Hierarchy chart with the furries (sorry, Flygon) is good enough for me.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Geo on August 02, 2013, 09:47:14 PM

But I did watch the initial part of "V" before I read the novelization.  :D
(mostly because my father forbid me to watch it)

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 02, 2013, 09:54:52 PM

Reading books is good for you - and I'm not judging if you discovered something in the wrong order, as long as you're in the habit of reading.

-Also, are we talking the original miniseries, or the TV show?  Because one was a pretty awesome allegory about fascism, and the other a dumb soap opera with space lizards.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Doc Nebula on August 02, 2013, 09:58:03 PM

Yeah, I'm a little more hard core with that 'seen the movie before you've read the adaption' than I should be.  I've seen BLADE RUNNER a lot, never read the original short story.  But I don't like Dick.  (Take that any way you like.)

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 02, 2013, 09:59:41 PM

Too easy.

The Man in the High Castle was okay...

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Geo on August 02, 2013, 10:01:12 PM

Quote from: BUncle on August 02, 2013, 09:54:52 PM

-Also, are we talking the original miniseries, or the TV show?  Because one was a pretty awesome allegory about fascism, and the other a dumb soap opera with space lizards.

Original Miniseries of course.
By the time the TV show was broadcasted in my country, the whole family gathered around the screen to see it.
Only last week I watched the intro of the TV show again, and was horrified at the copying of the scout ship pursuit scene from the Miniseries.

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Geo on August 02, 2013, 10:02:30 PM

Quote from: BUncle on August 02, 2013, 09:59:41 PM

The Man in the High Castle was okay...

Too Fascismtic to you.  :P

Title: Re: The Geek Hierarchy
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 02, 2013, 10:08:21 PM

Why?  I expect a little in a Nazis won story...